Lisa Lawyer - not only did she become a man...

[rydermorrison]

OK, I got tired of lurking. How come everytime someone finds God (capital "G") other people get mad? Truly there must be something to it if the mere mention of it makes so many people stir!! If the person formerly known as Lisa Lawler has been saved that's great, if she hasn't that's great too. How does it affect anyone else here? And if she wasn't a fuckin and suckin porn star she wouldn't need to be saved--- you can't save a saint!! So that doesn't make her a hypocrite!! Everyone is a sinner and no sin is worse than any other. The bible is full of prostitutes and murderers that God used to do his will--- the disciples were theives and killers etc... so what?! Heck, I could be a god if all you want me to do is make good people do good things; that doesn't demonstrate any power!! Ah, but to take something foul that no one can so anything good in and make it good, that takes a bit more skill.
I know there are alot of agnostics and atheists here--- what are you afraid of? If someone tries to sell you cookies and you don't like cookies... don't buy them. Why get mad and call them a damn cookie thumper; you don't do you? Only if it's related to God, that four letter word,hmmmm.
And by the way, the phrase true transsexual begs one to define false transsexual. It really doesn't matter your reasons, your longevity or anything else, if you are a man and you take hormones, get breast implants and other procedures, you are a transsexual... trans meaning "cross" and I think we all understand "sexual". Men do not have breasts and soft skin..women do not have dicks... so because you are neither one and both you are now something new-- a transsexual, no matter what you want to call yourself or what anyone "feels", that's a definition.And unless you're an apparition floating around, you're a true one. Until you " de-transition" as you say, you will always be a transsexual, even if you have an SRS--- you won't be a woman but a post-op TRUE TRANSSEXUAL!

i abslutely disagree with this but as im hopped up on pain killers at the moment dont possess the cognitive reasoning to explain myself

[Ineeda SM]

Sounds reasonable....but I think you're grossly over exaggerating the amount of tolerance you possess....this ain't our first rodeo ! You remind me of that Dan Savage dude.....real mild manored until you dare say something he disagrees with, but I could be wrong. So you're cool with folks as long as they don't push their lifestyle on you? Then I hope you're not one of those flamboyant dudes because ....well then that would be hypocritical now ....wouldn't it?

You mistake my passion of a stated position for intolerance. Passion is standing up for, and defending your beliefs of the truth. Intolerance is a person who goes out of their way to change laws and peoples minds so you will conform to what they say is right. And if you disagree with them, you are bad evil people. That may be my one intolerance. Phony hypocrites who preach one thing, and do another.

I am a very tolerant person. That's why I make a good liberal. I think everyone should be able to live the way they wish and not be beaten down for it. Providing however, that they don't force it on me, and allow me the same freedom. Dan Savage is supposed to be that way. It's his "Thing" that grabs his listeners attention. Like Rush being a blowhard liar. Everyone knows it but they listen and laugh at him anyway.

No I am not one of the limp wrist flamboyant types that speaks with a lisp, and walks like a cheap hooker. I am a guy, and I act like one. I am a bisexual man, not a femboy. I will defend who I am, and my lifestyle, but I don't try to convert others against their will. Live and let live. Four simple words that are a philosophy, and a brilliant suggestion.

[Ineeda SM]

OK, I got tired of lurking. How come everytime someone finds God (capital "G") other people get mad? Truly there must be something to it if the mere mention of it makes so many people stir!! If the person formerly known as Lisa Lawler has been saved that's great, if she hasn't that's great too. How does it affect anyone else here? And if she wasn't a fuckin and suckin porn star she wouldn't need to be saved--- you can't save a saint!! So that doesn't make her a hypocrite!! Everyone is a sinner and no sin is worse than any other. The bible is full of prostitutes and murderers that God used to do his will--- the disciples were theives and killers etc... so what?! Heck, I could be a god if all you want me to do is make good people do good things; that doesn't demonstrate any power!! Ah, but to take something foul that no one can so anything good in and make it good, that takes a bit more skill.
I know there are alot of agnostics and atheists here--- what are you afraid of? If someone tries to sell you cookies and you don't like cookies... don't buy them. Why get mad and call them a damn cookie thumper; you don't do you? Only if it's related to God, that four letter word,hmmmm.
And by the way, the phrase true transsexual begs one to define false transsexual. It really doesn't matter your reasons, your longevity or anything else, if you are a man and you take hormones, get breast implants and other procedures, you are a transsexual... trans meaning "cross" and I think we all understand "sexual". Men do not have breasts and soft skin..women do not have dicks... so because you are neither one and both you are now something new-- a transsexual, no matter what you want to call yourself or what anyone "feels", that's a definition.And unless you're an apparition floating around, you're a true one. Until you " de-transition" as you say, you will always be a transsexual, even if you have an SRS--- you won't be a woman but a post-op TRUE TRANSSEXUAL!

The reason is very simple, although most religious freaks don't understand the reason.

Religion is a personal belief of each individual. It is not the rule of law or the rule of man. It is what you may believe in, but many do not. I don't care what anyone wants to believe in. God, Allah, Buddha, the Sun, or a rock. Believe what you wish and be happy.

But when you try to tell me that my beliefs are wrong, my lifestyle is wrong, all because the bible says so, then you have violated my privacy and personal beliefs. My RIGHT to chose and believe as I wish. Just because you think god is real, doesn't mean there is indeed a god at all. It only means that YOU believe it. And just because the bible says it is so, does not really mean it is so. It just means that those who wrote the bible and those who follow it, believe it is real.

Religion always tries to convert people to their beliefs, and preaches it's own agenda, which is, god's words are the only way of life. That belief may be good for them, but not the rest of the world. We may have another idea of how our life should be. It has nothing to do with fear. We have a right to live the way we chose, and we have the right to not have one fanatical group try to change us through preaching or trying to change laws that effect everyone.

The first amendment of the constitution gives us one law that has a double edged blade. We are granted by law, freedom OF religion, and freedom FROM religion. That should never be forgotten. It means that the law recognizes your right to practice any form of religion you chose freely and openly, or not to practice religion at all, freely and openly. It's called a liberty. A liberty that religion wants to change so we all have to follow their laws based on their beliefs.

[onmyknees]

You mistake my passion of a stated position for intolerance. Passion is standing up for, and defending your beliefs of the truth. Intolerance is a person who goes out of their way to change laws and peoples minds so you will conform to what they say is right. And if you disagree with them, you are bad evil people. That may be my one intolerance. Phony hypocrites who preach one thing, and do another.

I am a very tolerant person. That's why I make a good liberal. I think everyone should be able to live the way they wish and not be beaten down for it. Providing however, that they don't force it on me, and allow me the same freedom. Dan Savage is supposed to be that way. It's his "Thing" that grabs his listeners attention. Like Rush being a blowhard liar. Everyone knows it but they listen and laugh at him anyway.

No I am not one of the limp wrist flamboyant types that speaks with a lisp, and walks like a cheap hooker. I am a guy, and I act like one. I am a bisexual man, not a femboy. I will defend who I am, and my lifestyle, but I don't try to convert others against their will. Live and let live. Four simple words that are a philosophy, and a brilliant suggestion.

Great speech....nice try... but I'm not convinced...not by a long shot. If I hadn't read a years worth if your intolerant rants over on the political boards, you might have convinced me, but maybe you've changed. Life is about growth after all. I think you're tolerance is superficial...that is to say....you're tolerant of folks who either agree with you, or are ambivalent about your beliefs. Your initial comments about the former Ms. Lawyer explain all that. It's rather simple to be tolerant of things that are not fundamental, but ture tolerance is a virtue, as is patience, and many times you have exhibited neither. You would have been perfect living in a commune in Frisco in the late 60's where you could surround yourself with like minded people and shut out any contrary opinions. It sounds nice...."just don't force your views on me" but life, nor government works that way.

[Apostle]

Arguing about religion on an adult forum. SMH, pure comedy gold.

[Ineeda SM]

Great speech....nice try... but I'm not convinced...not by a long shot. If I hadn't read a years worth if your intolerant rants over on the political boards, you might have convinced me, but maybe you've changed. Life is about growth after all. I think you're tolerance is superficial...that is to say....you're tolerant of folks who either agree with you, or are ambivalent about your beliefs. Your initial comments about the former Ms. Lawyer explain all that. It's rather simple to be tolerant of things that are not fundamental, but ture tolerance is a virtue, as is patience, and many times you have exhibited neither. You would have been perfect living in a commune in Frisco in the late 60's where you could surround yourself with like minded people and shut out any contrary opinions. It sounds nice...."just don't force your views on me" but life, nor government works that way.

Of course you are not convinced. People tell you the truth with absolute proof all the time, and you still argue to the opposite. Simply because it is not what you think is right.

Those arguments on the political boards are different, they are debates of different opinions on the same subject. It is current and always changing. Nothing more, nothing less. You talk about me, but you are the one known for breaking into fun and calm threads, and arguing with people for your own enjoyment. It is obvious that you do not know the meaning of the word, tolerance. You think if someone disagrees with you and debates your statements, they are automatically intolerant in your mind.

Ms. Lawyer became a woman, then reverted back to a man. Good for her--him--whatever. I could care less. I didn't even care that he saw god and follows it. Whatever makes him happy. It was HIS intolerance of no longer accepting other peoples lifestyles as normal and trying to change us all in the name of HIS god to fit HIS image of what is right. That's just bull shit, plain and simple.

I noticed you still have not answered the question about how you can constantly hi-jack threads to jump Freddie for being racist and hating TS, but you wholeheartedly support the GOP which is far worse in hate and racism, and they think all of us GLBT are sick fuckers who need psychiatric help. How come you don't argue on republican boards about how they are wrong for doing the same thing that you jump Freddie for?

OMK, you are way beyond intolerant. You are a true-blue hypocrite, and a phony. At least I stand up and support GLBT people because I am one of them, and proud of it. You just pretend to like people here, then go and cheer on those who hate us all. Like I said earlier, people like you are my one intolerance. Phony hypocrites who preach one thing, and do another.

[onmyknees]

Of course you are not convinced. People tell you the truth with absolute proof all the time, and you still argue to the opposite. Simply because it is not what you think is right.

Those arguments on the political boards are different, they are debates of different opinions on the same subject. It is current and always changing. Nothing more, nothing less. You talk about me, but you are the one known for breaking into fun and calm threads, and arguing with people for your own enjoyment. It is obvious that you do not know the meaning of the word, tolerance. You think if someone disagrees with you and debates your statements, they are automatically intolerant in your mind.

Ms. Lawyer became a woman, then reverted back to a man. Good for her--him--whatever. I could care less. I didn't even care that he saw god and follows it. Whatever makes him happy. It was HIS intolerance of no longer accepting other peoples lifestyles as normal and trying to change us all in the name of HIS god to fit HIS image of what is right. That's just bull shit, plain and simple.

I noticed you still have not answered the question about how you can constantly hi-jack threads to jump Freddie for being racist and hating TS, but How come you don't argue on republican boards about how they are wrong for doing the same thing that you jump Freddie for?

OMK, you are way beyond intolerant. You are a true-blue hypocrite, and a phony. At least I stand up and support GLBT people because I am one of them, and proud of it. You just pretend to like people here, then go and cheer on those who hate us all. Like I said earlier, people like you are my one intolerance. Phony hypocrites who preach one thing, and do another.

See....no one entered the world of politics except you. You can't help yourself. You're so blinded, I find it humorous. In your limited world view sitting in Podunk PA you make ignorant statements like this....
"you wholeheartedly support the GOP which is far worse in hate and racism, and they think all of us GLBT are sick fuckers who need psychiatric help."

Now go back and read the post where you told us all about your liberal tolerance. LMFAO. I rest my case. You're either a schizophrenic, or you simply don't understand what tolerance is.

I had a lot more to say, but it would cloud the point you so unwittingly and perfectly made. I think we're done here. I get what you're all about. It's either your way...or it's racist and hateful. Got it.

[Ineeda SM]

See....no one entered the world of politics except you. You can't help yourself. You're so blinded, I find it humorous. In your limited world view sitting in Podunk PA you make ignorant statements like this....
"you wholeheartedly support the GOP which is far worse in hate and racism, and they think all of us GLBT are sick fuckers who need psychiatric help."

Now go back and read the post where you told us all about your liberal tolerance. LMFAO. I rest my case. You're either a schizophrenic, or you simply don't understand what tolerance is.

I had a lot more to say, but it would cloud the point you so unwittingly and perfectly made. I think we're done here. I get what you're all about. It's either your way...or it's racist and hateful. Got it.

You first mentioned the rants in the political threads, and it required a defence. but of course like a good little GOP boy, you must deny it and put the blame on someone else. Your own party has committed themselves to being hatefull and racist. Not me. And there you go again doing exactly what every GOP boy does. Take the bad that your party does, and try to blame the other side of doing it. If that is not your admission of guilt, I don't know what else to call it.

What does my telling the truth about you supporting the GOP have to do with tolerence? I don't remember saying that I didn't like it or telling you you can't do it anymore. You really have no clue in hell as to what the word "tolerance" means do you? Obviously not.

And you still can't give an honest answer as to why you jump Freedie for doing what your GOP boys do, yet you support them. You will continue to avoid that question because you know I gotcha on that one, and you can't worm out of it. So once again like a good little GOP boy, you just pretend the question was never asked.

You are just a republican troll. You make it so obvious, then you are too stupid to realize that everyone here sees it. What a maroon.

[postopadmirer]

Was the sex talk surgically removed from this topic?I would swear it was there at one point?
If it is gone I must still be interested in it because it was there to start with.

[fred41]

Was the sex talk surgically removed from this topic?I would swear it was there at one point?
If it is gone I must still be interested in it because it was there to start with.

lol...see what happens when you open up a 5+ year old thread. There was probably an ancient Egyptian curse on it. Now we're all doomed.
...thank you.