Brexit: A New Era for the UK?

[obslam]

You could have....But that would have been more obfuscation, too.

You can polish that turd until the world runs out of J-Cloth, but Brexit Britain is
Shit Today,
Shit yesterday.
And by golly, it's going to be shit tomorrow!

Feel sorry for you then.

Britain, pre- or post-Brexit, is a country where anyone can achieve anything if they put the effort in. A lot of countries aren't like that.

It's certainly not shit. Of course, if you aren't willing to put the effort in maybe your life is shit. But that isn't the country's fault.

[Laphroaig]

Britain, pre- or post-Brexit, is a country where anyone can achieve anything, if they donate enough to the Tory party.

Fixed that for you.

[Jericho]

Feel sorry for you then.

Britain, pre- or post-Brexit, is a country where anyone can achieve anything if they put the effort in. A lot of countries aren't like that.

It's certainly not shit. Of course, if you aren't willing to put the effort in maybe your life is shit. But that isn't the country's fault.

Restriction of Movement in our own country
Loss of freedom of Movement in Europe
Increases in foodbank usage
Increase in homelessness
Fuel shortages (In certain areas).
Lack of variety and rising prices in stores
Energy prices about to go up (Just in time for Winter (You can heat or eat)).
The army being drafted in to drive ambulances
Do stop me if you're being overwhelmed by the greatness of it all!

Unless of course, you're sitting on a cushion.
Then it's "I'm alright, Jack", and a holiday in Marbella in a mates villa!

[filghy2]

Britain, pre- or post-Brexit, is a country where anyone can achieve anything if they put the effort in. A lot of countries aren't like that.

Dr Pangloss, I presume. These whingers just don't appreciate that they never had it so good.

[obslam]

Why the fuck would I borrow a mates villa? What's wrong with mine?

[obslam]

Restriction of Movement in our own country
Loss of freedom of Movement in Europe
Increases in foodbank usage
Increase in homelessness
Fuel shortages (In certain areas).
Lack of variety and rising prices in stores
Energy prices about to go up (Just in time for Winter (You can heat or eat)).
The army being drafted in to drive ambulances

Apart from the incorrect, top two in the list, claims, I'm not sure there is any link between any of the others and Brexit.

[Jericho]

Apart from the incorrect, top two in the list, claims, I'm not sure there is any link between any of the others and Brexit.

We've already established you're wrong about FoM.
You're wrong about the rest, too.
YOU might not be sure, the rest of the world *is*!

[obslam]

We've already established you're wrong about FoM.
You're wrong about the rest, too.
YOU might not be sure, the rest of the world *is*!

LOL, we've established I'm right on FoM. It really isn't restricted.

I'm not wrong about the rest either.

Russian gas shortages due to the UK leaving the EU?

Fuel supply issues due to the UK leaving the EU (even though number of ADR holders unaffected)?

Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. You seem delusional.

Goodbye.

[Jericho]

LOL, we've established I'm right on FoM. It really isn't restricted.

I'm not wrong about the rest either.

Russian gas shortages due to the UK leaving the EU?

Fuel supply issues due to the UK leaving the EU (even though number of ADR holders unaffected)?

Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. You seem delusional.

Goodbye.

Basking in the sunlit uplands of denial.

[Stavros]

Lord Frost, opposed to Brexit before the Referendum is now one of its most aggressive warriors, going into battle against- well, himself, and the Northern Ireland Protocol he negotiated on behalf of Boris Johnson to prove just how useless Theresa May was.

But we can’t escape something that has been poking politicians in the eye for 800 years- Ireland, and just as in the 19th century it split apart the Liberal and Conservative parties, and in the 20th was the scene of devastating violence, so here we are, in the second decade of the 21sr century, and Ireland- or rather the British position in Ireland remains an unrelenting mistress of despair. That there is no end in sight Rafael Behr attributes to Theresa May and Boris Johnson, but I fear it has deeper roots, it is a tree that can’t be felled, not yet anyway. Thus-

“The demand to end European court jurisdiction signals that Johnson is not serious about the protocol. He knows that the single market and the court are one package. Frost is asking to erase a fundamental basis of all Brexit negotiation, resetting the clock to June 2017, expiating May’s original sin in accepting the primacy of the Irish border issue; retracting Britain’s concession that it is any kind of issue at all.”
I have spoken to ministers, diplomats and officials who have worked with Johnson and they say, with one voice, that he has no interest in the detail of his deals and does not consider his signature on them to be binding. As one former cabinet colleague puts it: “Boris doesn’t give a stuff about Northern Ireland.”
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...eland-protocol

note also a comment from a reader made up of quotes from various sources-

“Marina Hyde in the Guardian:
"Lord Frost now spends most of his time castigating the EU for sticking to the terms of the deal struck by Lord Frost, and for doing so in a way that was predicted by seemingly everyone other than Lord Frost."
Nytimes Published Sept. 28, 2021
"Gas stations in Northern Ireland, which has an open border with the Irish Republic (a European Union member), are not reporting panic buying. Similarly, Northern Ireland was unaffected by the recent shortage in supplies of carbon dioxide because its soda bottling plants had access to shipments from continental Europe."
https://nyti.ms/3F18lfx
... the UK intends to opt back into EU programmes on research (Horizon), earth observation satellites (Copernicus), energy (Euratom research & training and Fusion for Energy). The UK will make a “proportionate contribution” to these programmes ...

A large non-EU state is threatening a small EU state, with whom it has a land boundary, with unspecified actions, because of the out working of an international Treaty, to which the larger state freely agreed, less than two years ago.
John Bruton
Irish Times July 7th”.