When I First Discovered T-Girls

[junior]

I was working in a 7-11 in my senior year of high school over 30 years ago. We sold relatively main stream porn mags. Stuff like Playboy, Penthouse, Club and the like. I can still remember that one of the mags had a photo spread that featured a T-Girl. The funny thing is I think the photo spread was titled "Hide The Salami". There were a few women and one cock that was in there somewhere. But until you got a few pages in you couldn't see which girl it belonged to. As i remember she had short hair and had on a necklace that just looked like a bunch of really big hoop earrings (obviously big enough to fit her neck). I wish I could remember which magazine it was in for sure to help me search for the photos today. That was the start of something. Then the internet came along and I found girls on there. Then I found girls in person and at the parties that ended up organizing and being promoted on this board. Where did you first discover our lovely girls? Does the photo spread I described sound familiar? Anybody have any suggestions how I might search for it after all these years?

[Murmdrum]

I mean as a younger guy( I'm 50 now) I remember seeing some t girl stuff in magazines or adds. I think alot of those were even fake lol...but my interest wasn't peaked until I saw some special on Vanity...maybe it was on HBO or something . I had a few experiences with a kid my age growing up but that was experimenting stuff. But even after the vanity thing it was still many years after that I had my first TS experience

[Cereal Escapist]

....Anybody have any suggestions how I might search for it after all these years?

I've recounted my story of how I got interested in tgirls on other threads so I won't do that here but it has been 25 years since I saw my first bit of REAL tranny porn and I think some time around the late 90s, perhaps even 2000, I lost all of the original stuff and have never been able to find it again. It is not that I need to see that stuffagain...but it seems lost in the ethos or perhaps because there is so much more tranny porn out there, it is just too difficult to sift through it all.

[Username13]

My discovery of liking trans women is a lot more convoluted and messy.

The earliest I can remember hearing of the notion of trans women was in Ace Ventura, which is obviously a really negative portrayal. Still, the character was really sexualized and portrayed as sexually attractive. I honestly can't remember at all what my thoughts were at the time looking back like how much I'm projecting onto a younger version of myself based on what I think now, but it definitely wasn't something I found repulsive (like how the male characters in the movie acted when discovering she was trans).

I think for the most part after that it was just this out of sight out of mind thing. I remember my parents going to this drag bar with another couple as this kind of fun different night out type of thing, just out of curiosity. And hearing them laugh about a story of how one of the dancers came up to my parent's friend is just something that stuck in my memory. But yeah, still for the longest time I never explored that world at all. I was never homophobic or transphobic and neither was my immediate environment (family) but it is always something I associated as something I just didn't want to take part in. Just probably a build-up of hearing how they were portrayed in the media and society in general I guess.

What I did have no issues exploring though was my attraction to muscular women. I could give a detailed history on what exactly led to my attraction for that aesthetic, the attraction to strength in a woman, and just that dynamic where a female could be more dominant than a male and it make complete sense to me, and how I responded sexually to it. Anyways, for the longest time that was my main go-to, and as I got older those kind of "what if it's gay???" walls started to fall and I'd start looking up strap-on videos. At first it was more muscular women, but then I started to notice that this was still sexually appealing to me with cisgender women that were more conventionally attractive too. I think there was a justification in my mind that I could still remove that aspect of thinking something may be gay or straight or whatever, and just look at it like a fetish. I can't remember at what point this was, but I vividly remember having a wet dream about a muscular woman I liked, and in the dream she revealed that she had a penis. I kind of jolted up from my sleep and felt weird about it afterwards.

Anyways, like I said those barriers started to fade and maybe about 5 or so years ago, I just kind of said "fuck it" and looked up trans porn. I think it was on VK and I just went to a page that featured trans content. The video I watched was of Veronika Havenna topping a guy. Seems like a hell of a jump to just go right into that in terms of trans content but that's what it was. And it was a really quick "realization" that this DEFINITELY worked for me. It kind of felt liking jumping through hoops to get to the stage where I was ready to embrace this part of my sexuality. And it's not like it "replaced" those other things, like I still find muscular women seually appealing, I still am turned on my cisgender women taking on a dominant role, using a strap-on, things like that. It's just that this clicked and made sense, and the fact that I was willing to embrace it just opened up a new world.

For whatever reason I went back to that same Veronika Havenna video multiple times before exploring anything else, but it really opened up from there. Mia Isabella was the next specific girl I remember being drawn too. I liked the way she talked in her videos, referring to her cum as her "honey", things like that.

Then from there I started to become more embracing of different things. I was drawn to trans women whether they were dominant or submissive, had bottom surgery or didn't. And from there started to care about things more in depth, not looking at it like a fetish, not just sexualizing. It's kind of an unconventional route to that but it is what it is I guess.

[mikey_stl]

I saw a photo spread in a magazine -- I think it was Hustler. It was actually a photo of an Intersexed woman, who had both a pussy and a small dick. I was fascinated, and I thought there was nothing sexier than a dick on a beautiful woman. I'm not sure about my first encounter with a T-girl. The first time I saw a live t-girl was at a peep show in San Francisco. This place had mostly women in the booths, but one of the booths had a T-girl. I think my first actual experience was with a post-op that I met in a bar in San Francisco. She was a beautiful busty blonde, but I could tell there was something different about her. The first time I bottomed was with a hooker I picked up, and we did it in the car. I just wanted to see what it was like to bottom. After that, I generally would only let them suck me, and then I graduated to sucking, and finally to bottoming again. I remember going to a peep show in Times Square in NYC that had all t-girl performers. There was a bunch of booths surrounding the stage, and you would put money in a slot and they would come and open your window. There was no glass. They would stick their dicks through the window and let you suck or play with it. They would also play with your dick. There were other places in Times Square that had t-girls that gave lap dances. All those places closed up long ago. This was probably in the 1980s.

[Lorca81]

I was vaguely aware of trans women at a early age because the concept was explained to me when I was kid. As an adolescent, I saw those 900-number adds that used to be in the back of mainstream porn magazines like Hustler and Penthouse. I remember thinking at the time, "that's interesting and strangely appealing" and I guess I kinda banked the concept in the back of my mind. Then, when I was fresh out of high school, I met a trans girl through mutual friends. We got on like a house on fire, initially as friends, but started dating after a while. It also was around that time that I became a consumer of trans erotica. From that point on, trans women have always been part of my personal, romantic, and fantasy life, though I dated both cis and trans women for a few years afterwards. However, I eventually came to realize that I have little to no sexual attraction to cis women. So I made a conscious decision to only date trans women. At this point, I've haven't been with a cis woman -- or even looked at cishet porn -- in well over a decade.

[Stavros]

Like Cereal Escapist I have dealt with this before -Danny La Rue on tv circa 1966, going to the Black Cap in Camden Town in London two or three nights a week in 1970 to see Shane, Lorri Lee and the guest artists- seeing my first transexuals (as opposed to drag quees) in Paris in 1973.

But what I wonder is if drag as a mainstream act by heterosexual men has been as common in the US as it was in the UK. Numerous comedians who made their careers between the 1950s and the 1970s and were on TV all the time did drag, men such as Dick Emery, Stanley Baxter, Les Dawson, double acts like Ronnie Corbett and Ronnie Barker- and it all came out of their time in the Army, where forces entertainment seems to have relied on drag a lot. A lot of the drag acts I saw in the 1970s had served in the Merchant Navy in the 1950s and were gay men, a different kind of drag, and rarely seen on tv (but this may also be due to the x-rated jokes their acts used).
On the one hand there was nothing 'gay' about drag on tv, as the drag persona most commonly used, indeed perfected by Les Dawson- was of the past-middle age Northern Housewife- or it was satirical, as with Dick Emery and Stanley Baxter. In this context, Danny La Rue was more provocative because he was much more feminine and to that extent desirable, which the other male entertainers were not.

British Tv in the 1950s and 1960s was, I think, more creative and willing to push boundaries than the US, even though both were very conservative. I wonder if there is a stronger drag tradition in the military in the British Armed Forces, and that it was natural for TV to show something mature people were familar with, even though I am aware there were drag artists in the US. In an age of the internet and smart phones the military no longer need to make their own entertainment, and as more women serve on the frontlne, I suggest drag has disappeared as something men did naturally to entertain themselves.

Either way, it is when a line is crossed, when drag is neither satire nor comedy, but sexual and desirable, that watching it can lead you to investigate your own desire, and maybe do something about it. Although I think the shows are garish and predictable and frankly loathe RuPaul, I wonder if men watching Drag Show are aroused enough to explore something they had not thought about before?

Typical drag humour from Dick Emery