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    Quote Originally Posted by timetoplay2468 View Post
    I didn’t want to rant I asked a question and I wanted to see what other people who are like minded and who had the same thoughts as me had to say. Guess I got my answer alright. Also I wrote controversial because I knew some people wouldnt agree. What I wrote is controversial to some people. Guess it was a poor choice on my part to write that title. I’ll remember next time.
    It's no big deal that you wrote something not many agreed with. I was just saying it would be a bit more fun if you came back guns blazing to defend it or clarify.

    I honestly read your first post and thought it was a little arbitrary.

    I don't think in the ten years I've posted here I have seen anyone shamed for topping. That doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Can you find a single example of someone being shamed for being the insertive partner? Given your really strong impressions, you should be able to do that.


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    It was a filibuster. He wanted to rant a bunch of stuff that isn't true, have everyone disagree with him and then say, "well that's your opinion, there's no point talking about it." And btw, where'd he go again?
    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post
    It's no big deal that you wrote something not many agreed with. I was just saying it would be a bit more fun if you came back guns blazing to defend it or clarify.

    I honestly read your first post and thought it was a little arbitrary.

    I don't think in the ten years I've posted here I have seen anyone shamed for topping. That doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Can you find a single example of someone being shamed for being the insertive partner? Given your really strong impressions, you should be able to do that.
    All right not necessarily on here but I’m talking about pornstars like Ramon, or the newly TS porn joined Sean michaels. Why do I see meny men pissed at the fact that these guys aren’t gives ts women blowjobs,handjobs, or they want these guys to turn into bottoms. Why do they get shitted on for treating trans woman how trans women actually want to be treated. Like women am I right? Trans women don’t actually like being a top for a man unless there’s money involved and the fans that actually like that are bottoms or in betweens. It being forced in the porn industry to focus on the penis of ts women because that’s what the fans want but oh but pornstars who are on top or who are straight leaning get criticized the most like WTF.From my view point I believe ts women prefer to be dominated and banged hard. In my opinion those guys don’t like trans women for who they are or what there trying to be perceived as. In my opinion they only like ts women for the fetish. Some of these guys could be actually gay but being with a passable trans women would make that unnoticeable. I’ve seen this on threads taking about Sean Michaels and even Ramon, and even Yago from transurpise in Brazil is mentioned and now yago is doing blowjob scenes with ts women. He’s never done those. He dosent even look natural in that position. I’m not trying to make it a big deal its just mind boggling to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by timetoplay2468 View Post
    All right not necessarily on here but I’m talking about pornstars like Ramon, or the newly TS porn joined Sean michaels. I must say it's odd that you seem to think Ramon and Sean are genuinely into TS, but long-term TS porn actors who bottom are just doing it as a fetish and are probably gay.

    Trans women don’t actually like being a top for a man unless there’s money involved and the fans that actually like that are bottoms or in betweens. It being forced in the porn industry to focus on the penis of ts women because that’s what the fans want but oh but pornstars who are on top or who are straight leaning get criticized the most like WTF.

    I’m not trying to make it a big deal its just mind boggling to me.
    I've seen those threads. Some people are just saying that they find that kind of TS porn boring. As porn consumers they have a right to express a view (as do others). That hardly amounts to hating.

    Like every other industry the TS porn industry produces what it thinks will make money. Nobody's forcing it do do things apart from the customers. As far as I can see there is a range of stuff being produced to satisfy different preferences, including your own (eg Sean Michaels and Ramon). Also, porn is like any other job. You get paid for doing what your employer and their customers want, not want you want.

    I still don't understand your complaint. Your real complaint seems that there are too many TS admirers who don't think like you and that the porn industry should only be catering for your preferences and not for theirs. And why are you so obsessed about whether other guys are attracted to TS in the 'right' way? Why not just focus on what you like?

    Finally, if you really aren't trying to make a big deal of it why have you just posted this 1/2 page diatribe?


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    Quote Originally Posted by timetoplay2468 View Post
    All right not necessarily on here but I’m talking about pornstars like Ramon, or the newly TS porn joined Sean michaels. Why do I see meny men pissed at the fact that these guys aren’t gives ts women blowjobs,handjobs, or they want these guys to turn into bottoms. Why do they get shitted on for treating trans woman how trans women actually want to be treated. Like women am I right? Trans women don’t actually like being a top for a man unless there’s money involved and the fans that actually like that are bottoms or in betweens. It being forced in the porn industry to focus on the penis of ts women because that’s what the fans want but oh but pornstars who are on top or who are straight leaning get criticized the most like WTF.From my view point I believe ts women prefer to be dominated and banged hard. In my opinion those guys don’t like trans women for who they are or what there trying to be perceived as. In my opinion they only like ts women for the fetish. Some of these guys could be actually gay but being with a passable trans women would make that unnoticeable. I’ve seen this on threads taking about Sean Michaels and even Ramon, and even Yago from transurpise in Brazil is mentioned and now yago is doing blowjob scenes with ts women. He’s never done those. He dosent even look natural in that position. I’m not trying to make it a big deal its just mind boggling to me.
    If you read through the threads about Ramon, he gets criticism for all kinds of things. Being top only is just one of a long list of complaints about him. Don't know about the other 2 names you mention, but they are performers and as such open to criticism in the same manner regular actors/singers/performers are. It may or may not be fair or justifiable, but that's part of the deal when you're a performer.

    Quote Originally Posted by timetoplay2468 View Post
    Did it ever occur to you that I don’t argue back with a person. It’s fucking pointless. It’s childish. We obviously don’t agree with each other and we’re not going to change our minds so why would I keep going. You obviously want to start drama. Did it also occur to you that I actually have a life to live instead of arguing with someone online.

    It's not an argument, simply If you're going to make claims be prepared to back them up with evidence. So far you've come up with nothing. Where are all the examples you claimed to see in the stories section?...


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    Just to clarify, this sentence should have been in my response, not in the quote:

    I must say it's odd that you seem to think Ramon and Sean are genuinely into TS, but long-term TS porn actors who bottom are just doing it as a fetish and are probably gay.

    I've actually never seen anyone complaining that Ramon and Sean don't bottom. Most of the complaints are that they avoid going anywhere near the girls' dicks and that they never show any real affection toward them - basically just putting their dick in the hole and banging away.


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    I've seen those threads. Some people are just saying that they find that kind of TS porn boring. As porn consumers they have a right to express a view (as do others). That hardly amounts to hating.

    Like every other industry the TS porn industry produces what it thinks will make money. Nobody's forcing it do do things apart from the customers. As far as I can see there is a range of stuff being produced to satisfy different preferences, including your own (eg Sean Michaels and Ramon). Also, porn is like any other job. You get paid for doing what your employer and their customers want, not want you want.

    I still don't understand your complaint. Your real complaint seems that there are too many TS admirers who don't think like you and that the porn industry should only be catering for your preferences and not for theirs. And why are you so obsessed about whether other guys are attracted to TS in the 'right' way? Why not just focus on what you like?

    Finally, if you really aren't trying to make a big deal of it why have you just posted this 1/2 page diatribe?

    What makes you think I am obsessed with this. Why are you making assumptions. I’m not bothered by the fact that the porn industry does not cater to my preferences infact Brazilian porn and trans 500 makes enough porn for my preference. As for attraction to a ts woman I’m not obsessed by that I could careless what you do with a trans women I was giving my opinion and which also is actually a fact when you think about it men on top or men who fucks trans women actually like these women for their feminine looks and features. But men who are bottoms or inbetween only treat trans women as a fetish, they don’t respect trans women as they claim to that bullshit. You may think you do but you don’t. Don’t you respect the trans women your with or are they just a quick fuck to you. So I am focused on what I like but I actually find it amazing how men on here are supposedly “cool” with the trans women on this site when they only see her as a fuck toy they can use. And since you assumed it’s fair that I do the same. It sounds like you don’t want me to call out the elephant in the room when you said “focus on what you like don’t worry about everyone else.”

    You’ll notice on certain videos on YouTube or articles TS women actually prefer straight masculine men. Theyre tired of bisexual men or closested gay men approaching them and only wanting them for their penises. You would see trans women walking up to men who are straight seeing if the guys would be interested in her because she wants the guys to look at her andbe attracted to her I thought I would get like minded men like me to give an answer but of course since it’s the internet I got the opposite or maybe people with my thoughts don’t exist here I’ve only spoken to one man with the same opinion as me. And the reason my post is so long is to explain my point better so you’ll understand sorry it bothered you. I think I came to the wrong place to express my thoughts. Maybe this site is only for men who only look at trans women as a fetish and ts women who don’t care or who don’t even realize.



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    Quote Originally Posted by timetoplay2468 View Post
    What makes you think I am obsessed with this. Why are you making assumptions.

    As for attraction to a ts woman I’m not obsessed by that I could careless what you do with a trans women I was giving my opinion and which also is actually a fact when you think about it men on top or men who fucks trans women actually like these women for their feminine looks and features. But men who are bottoms or inbetween only treat trans women as a fetish, they don’t respect trans women as they claim to that bullshit. You may think you do but you don’t.

    I think I came to the wrong place to express my thoughts. Maybe this site is only for men who only look at trans women as a fetish and ts women who don’t care or who don’t even realize.
    It's good to know you're not obsessed, you're not making assumptions and you don't care what we do with trans women.

    Do you wonder why nobody with similar preferences is coming to your defence? Could it be that they find your incoherent rants a bit embarrassing?

    This forum has obviously been taken over by "fetishists" why don't you boycott it and refuse to ever post here again? Perhaps you could start a new forum for real TS lovers and ban anyone who shows signs of this fetishism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by filghy2 View Post
    It's good to know you're not obsessed, you're not making assumptions and you don't care what we do with trans women.

    Do you wonder why nobody with similar preferences is coming to your defence? Could it be that they find your incoherent rants a bit embarrassing?

    This forum has obviously been taken over by "fetishists" why don't you boycott it and refuse to ever post here again? Perhaps you could start a new forum for real TS lovers and ban anyone who shows signs of this fetishism.
    Embarrassing? Incoherent? No You and I simply don’t agree with each other. Nice shaming language though. My opinion are based on what I’ve researched and what is actually going on be tween men and transwomen. You can ignore facts if you want to. But what’s sad is you don’t even realize your enforcing a negative stereotype about transwomen and men that are watching these pornos or reading these forums are going to think that’s what all trans woman want and the dysfunctional cycle is going to continue. And you don’t have to worry about me posting.



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    Why is it that when you cut through the garbage of most of the incoherent threads, the op really just wants to say "I'm straighter and more masculine than you?" It's juvenile as hell. I don't have any commentary on it except to say that if you mix with enough people there are probably those who would judge you the same way you judge other people. And that's wrong, but why pretend there's this conspiracy against tops when really you just want to tout your masculinity?


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    There's that, but I also think he may really be a sort of sexual puritan obsessed about "true" TS love being corrupted by depraved "fetishism". It really sounds like a variant of the rigid old-fashioned view of male and female sex roles translated into transsexuality.

    Interestingly, of the 22 posts he has made, all but three are related to this issue. He actually started another thread with an even longer diatribe on a similar theme. http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/sho...70#post1855170 But he's not obsessed of course.


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