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    Alexis is Canadian, Stavros, and she's not defending Trump.


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    Thanks for pointing that out. For whatever reason, I did not notice that. My points about the stats remain.



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    I wrote the above in the early hours when tired, and forgot to apologize to Alexis if she is offended, which was not my intention.
    As for the Quarantine New York, Don't Quaratine New York fiasco, if anyone does not now realize there is a dangerous Idiot in the White House, when will they, if ever?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    Larry Brilliant, a leading member of the Smallpox eradication teams, has illustrated a problem with regard to Covid19 in the USA- South Korea has been testing 3,500 people out of 1 miilion, the US five.
    The USA, a country of doctors led by deacons, where reason is replaced by faith, and practice by prayer.
    Welcome back to Salem, the trials will begin soon (no, not the vaccine! Duh!).
    An update on the testing stats-

    Fact check: testing

    During the taskforce briefing, Trump said – once again – that the United States “continues to perform more tests than anywhere else in the world, and that’s why we have more cases”.

    While the US has overtaken South Korea in total numbers of coronavirus tests administered, it has conducted fewer tests per capita given the US population is over six times larger than South Korea’s.

    As of 7 April, the United States, with a population of 329 million, had administered at least 1,951,044 tests, according to the Covid Tracking Project, a group led by Alexis Madrigal, a staff writer for The Atlantic magazine, with more than 100 volunteers that compile coronavirus testing data from states.

    This equates to 582 tests per 100,000 people in the US (with huge variations depending on the county, city and state), compared with 709 tests per 100,000 in South Korea and 600 per 100,000 in Italy.

    The US rate of testing improved markedly in early April. On March 31 the rate was just 318 per 100,000.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    As of 7 April, the United States, with a population of 329 million, had administered at least 1,951,044 tests, according to the Covid Tracking Project, a group led by Alexis Madrigal, a staff writer for The Atlantic magazine, with more than 100 volunteers that compile coronavirus testing data from states.

    [I]This equates to 582 tests per 100,000 people in the US (with huge variations depending on the county, city and state), compared with 709 tests per 100,000 in South Korea and 600 per 100,000 in Italy.
    That link isn't working, but this site shows that the USA is way down the list. https://virusncov.com/

    The country with the highest testing rate appears to be Iceland, which has tested more than 8% of its population.


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    Science meets stupidity head-on. Who will win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    Science meets stupidity head-on. Who will win?

    [IMG]IMG https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWA0MnnX...jpg&name=large IMG[/IMG]
    Science will win,Stupidity will lose.



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    No further comment needed:

    "In his first set of presidential appointments, Obama brought into his administration five science Nobel prizewinners and 25 members of the National Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine. They became known as the “dream team”.

    By contrast, Holdren said, “Trump is the exact opposite. Science has played no role in virtually all the top appointments he has made.”
    The roll call of officials Trump has entrusted with protecting Americans from Covid-19 tells its own story. With no Nobel laureates in sight, Trump relied initially on Alex Azar, secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), who is a lawyer and former drug company boss; followed by Mike Pence, a career politician and evangelical Christian; and most recently Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, whose expertise lies in real estate.
    Trump’s top team have in turn promoted individuals in their own mold. As Reuters has reported, Azar gave the job of coordinating the fight against coronavirus within HHS, to an individual whose job immediately before joining the Trump administration was as a dog breeder running a small business called Dallas Labradoodles."
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...mp-coronavirus


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    No further comment needed:

    "In his first set of presidential appointments, Obama brought into his administration five science Nobel prizewinners and 25 members of the National Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine. They became known as the “dream team”.

    By contrast, Holdren said, “Trump is the exact opposite. Science has played no role in virtually all the top appointments he has made.”
    The roll call of officials Trump has entrusted with protecting Americans from Covid-19 tells its own story. With no Nobel laureates in sight, Trump relied initially on Alex Azar, secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), who is a lawyer and former drug company boss; followed by Mike Pence, a career politician and evangelical Christian; and most recently Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, whose expertise lies in real estate.
    Trump’s top team have in turn promoted individuals in their own mold. As Reuters has reported, Azar gave the job of coordinating the fight against coronavirus within HHS, to an individual whose job immediately before joining the Trump administration was as a dog breeder running a small business called Dallas Labradoodles."
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...mp-coronavirus
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    is a huge contrast between the Obama Administration and the Trump Administration,Obama brought in health experts who had experience and let them talk and didn't hog the spotlight,Trump on the other hand brought in people who were just as unqualified as he is ,shows that the Trump Administration dropped the ball from the beginning in their handling of the CO-VID 19 Pandemic.


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    Should we be surprised, anxious, delighted, or indifferent to the support the 'First Family' has given to Stella Immanuel? However daft and dangerous the ideas of Stella Immanuel (born in Cameroon, educated in Nigeria) might be, she is hardly unique, as many of her ideas about 'demons' are shared by the President's 'Pastor' Paula White.

    Thus, Immanuel-

    "A Houston physician retweeted by President Donald Trump after appearing in a video where she praised hydroxychloroquine as a miracle coronavirus cure blames gynecological problems on sex with evil spirits and believes the US government is run by "reptilians."
    ...
    "Nobody needs to get sick. This virus has a cure -- it is called hydroxychloroquine," Immanuel exclaimed Monday as she stood on the steps of the Supreme Court in Washington at a so-called "White Coat Summit" of likeminded physicians.
    ...
    Further research on Immanuel's web page, now accessible only via an archived website viewer, as well as her YouTube account, reveal a long list of bizarre and unscientific beliefs.
    These include that "tormenting spirits" routinely have "astral sex" with women, which in turn causes "gynecological problems, marital distress, miscarriages" and more.
    In a 2015 video, Immanuel, who leads a religious group called Fire Power Ministries, said: "There are people ruling this nation that are not even human," describing them as "reptilian spirits" who are "half human, half ET."
    https://www.france24.com/en/20200728...-s-odd-beliefs

    This article looks at some of Pastor White's beliefs, and her promotion of cures-

    "One of White’s favorite targets is Leviathan. In her theology, Leviathan is not a mundane crocodile nor a type of dragon from Middle Eastern mythology. Rather, it’s a demon prince in the form of a many-headed dragon that is responsible for people experiencing everyday fatigue. Fortunately, she offers countermeasures—available to anyone who makes a $74 donation. Other packages are available for donations of $40 and $65, presumably offering protection against slightly fewer classes of demons."
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/10...-white-demons/

    And here is an interesting take on the role demons and spirts play in interpretations of illness and religion -the sort of thing that should be kept out of General Hospitals, and White Houses...
    https://theconversation.com/stella-i...history-143587

    And here she is, if you are robust enough to last almost an hour of this hysterical rubbish-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ture=emb_title


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