8 big names speak out of abuse from christian

[Ts RedVeX]

OK, Trish, you got me on this one. The lottery is not the best example. It still does not explain what those tables actually show.

[trish]

Trish, I would like you to give me the title of the book that teaches thah probability works the way you suggest... It does not matter how many times you play the lottery, or how many tickets you buy, the probability of winning remains the same.

Consider something really simple: coin flipping. Given a fair coin the probability of tossing a Heads is 1/2. Suppose you toss it and you in fact get Heads the first time. The probability that you get Heads on the second toss is also 1/2 (successive coin tossings are generally regarded as independent events). Each time you toss the coin the probability of getting a Heads is 1/2.

Now suppose you start with a fair coin. You agree to toss it twice and record the result (Heads or Tails) each time. We’ll write HH, if you get Heads both times. HT if you get a heads on the first toss and tails on the second. We’ll write TH if vice-versa, and we’ll write TT if both tosses give you Tails. Before you even begin tossing you can ask (and answer) the question, “What is the probability that I’ll get Heads on each toss?” There are four possible outcomes HH, HT, TH and TT. The probability is one chance in four; i.e. 1/4.

Instead suppose you decided to toss the coin three times in a row. Now the possibilities are HHH, HHT, HTH, HTT, THH, THT, TTH, TTT. So the probability of tossing three Heads in a row starting with the first toss is one chance in eight, or 1/8. This is also the probability of tossing three Tails in a row. Also notice the probability of tossing at least one Head is 7/8.

In general, imagine a simple random experiment, like tossing a coin or playing some other game of chance where the outcome is binary - say Infected or NotInfected - and imagine you perform the experiment exactly N times. If the outcomes are independent each time you do the experiment the probability of outcome NotInfected is the same each time you perform the experiment - say q. So the probability the result is NotInfected each and every time; i.e. N times in a row is, q to the Nth power which I’ll denote by (q^N). So the probability of getting Infected at least once is (1-(q^N)).

Actual life can be a good deal more complex than a game. No two sexual encounters, even between the same two people are the same and so the quantity q may change from encounter to encounter. One can sometimes substitute in the above technique an average q or a minimal value for q to obtain conservative predictions.

CORRECTION: Also in the example of the lottery ticket I was wrong because those experimental outcomes are not independent. For example, if there is only one winning ticket and if 0.01 is the probability that any given ticket is the winning ticket, then there must have been only one hundred tickets to begin with. If I buy all one hundred tickets, I’ll for sure get the winning ticket.

[blackchubby38]

Ok I'm not going to get into each comment here - other than to say, among the girls that spoke out, there were only two which had genuine complaints.
The others were general bickering and trying to create mischief (something both Jamie and Chelsea Pug excel in doing).

The industry is problematic and addressing it is important, even in the way it's being done here. I think there may be problems the way some producers work and that may also need addressing, but also look at the actual accusations and separate genuine complaints from just people who dislike him.

Given what has been happening in Hollywood, the media, and politics recently, I had a feeling that we would begin to hear stories about abuse from performers in the porn industry. I think it is important to address those issues as well. But the only thing I will add is part of the post that I made in another thread:

"I think what's happening is the line is being blurred between what's immoral and what's illegal. What should be settled in a criminal case and what could probably be settled in either civil court or with an apology. What charge ends a career and which one doesn't. Both the mainstream and social media are responsible for this because how fast these stories are coming in. We are at the point where there's a least one a day and depending on how famous the person is or how severe the charges are, the story can last for quite some time.

I think its important for the mainstream media to do its due diligence and try to distinguish and differentiate between each case to make sure the wrong people aren't caught up in the frenzy. Mob justice whether its in real life or on the internet is very a dangerous thing to be on the receiving end of".

While that post applied to the role of the media in the allegations of sexual misconduct, I think a portion of it can be applied to how these things should be handled in the porn industry. If a person's career is going to come to an end, I want make sure its for a genuine complaint and not for a misunderstanding or because that person is disliked.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Given what has been happening in Hollywood, the media, and politics recently, I had a feeling that we would begin to hear stories about abuse from performers in the porn industry. I think it is important to address those issues as well. But the only thing I will add is part of the post that I made in another thread:

"I think what's happening is the line is being blurred between what's immoral and what's illegal. What should be settled in a criminal case and what could probably be settled in either civil court or with an apology. What charge ends a career and which one doesn't. Both the mainstream and social media are responsible for this because how fast these stories are coming in. We are at the point where there's a least one a day and depending on how famous the person is or how severe the charges are, the story can last for quite some time.

I think its important for the mainstream media to do its due diligence and try to distinguish and differentiate between each case to make sure the wrong people aren't caught up in the frenzy. Mob justice whether its in real life or on the internet is very a dangerous thing to be on the receiving end of".

While that post applied to the role of the media in the allegations of sexual misconduct, I think a portion of it can be applied to how these things should be handled in the porn industry. If a person's career is going to come to an end, I want make sure its for a genuine complaint and not for a misunderstanding or because that person is disliked.

James Deen got accused by a number of big name performers a couple years ago. Not sure how his career is fairing right now but a lot of people cut ties with him when the allegations first surfaced. Legally, I'm guessing nothing has taken place either. I forgot the name of the director, but Tori Black had also accused that director of abuse on set. Nikki Benz also came out a while back stalking about on set abuse. Not really physical abuse in the violent sense but definitely abuse of someone's trust, Mr. Marcus had a reputation among lots of performers for "accidentally" cumming in women without their consent.

[MrsKellyPierce]

What porn sites did you shoot for?

I never had sex with my producers to get a job lol

There is no casting couch..try out period as far as I know..

You either have a bad scene or you don't...lol

The fans will determine your fate..

And there is professionalism on set as well..I never did stuff with my scene partner when the camera turned off..Giovanni you have a delusional view of how porn is shot lol

Nor have any trans producers/male talent I worked for touched me outside the shoot or when the camera was off..

[Ts RedVeX]

You were right in reference to the lottery. I did not specify how many tickets were available. I only specified the probability of winning, so you could have possibly been right. The reason why it was not a good example was exactly that it would not reflect the fact that Christian does not shoot only with HIV positive people and that he shoots with different models most of the time, so they have to be considered (mostly) independent events.

Anyways, I would not believe anything one reads on-line without at least a bit of processing the info beforehand, which was meant to be my point originally.

[MrsKellyPierce]

As far as Christian goes I can only speak from my own experience with him. We have fought online etc, but when I met him in person he was polite and didn't take photos of me like he does to put girls on his blog cause I asked him not to. He respected my choice.

As far as the other girls..I can't speak for them or defend them cause I don't know the situations..and can only speak from my own views.

Christian can be aggressive to get a scene shot with said girl, but still that's not sexual harassment.

[blackchubby38]

James Deen got accused by a number of big name performers a couple years ago. Not sure how his career is fairing right now but a lot of people cut ties with him when the allegations first surfaced. Legally, I'm guessing nothing has taken place either. I forgot the name of the director, but Tori Black had also accused that director of abuse on set. Nikki Benz also came out a while back stalking about on set abuse. Not really physical abuse in the violent sense but definitely abuse of someone's trust, Mr. Marcus had a reputation among lots of performers for "accidentally" cumming in women without their consent.

I had heard about the accusations against James Dean before and debated bringing it up in my initial post.

[Ben in LA]

Yup the James Deen situation and Nikki Benz vs Tony D popped into my head as well. I don’t think it affected either of the dude’s careers. In fact, Deen was at the AVN Awards later that year.

[Torris]

James Deen got accused by a number of big name performers a couple years ago. Not sure how his career is fairing right now but a lot of people cut ties with him when the allegations first surfaced. Legally, I'm guessing nothing has taken place either. I forgot the name of the director, but Tori Black had also accused that director of abuse on set. Nikki Benz also came out a while back stalking about on set abuse. Not really physical abuse in the violent sense but definitely abuse of someone's trust, Mr. Marcus had a reputation among lots of performers for "accidentally" cumming in women without their consent.

Mr. Clean is no James Deen lol.

But let us not forget the old Hedgehog. Ron Jeremy thinks it is his god given right to pull a starlet’s tit out of her top and begin suckling like a newborn at any and all porn gatherings