Could the end of Net Neutrality end your access to Hung Angels?

[GroobySteven]

To put it as simple as I can, in reference to blocking child pornography etc. - of course it should not be blocked. everyone should have access to it. This is the only way somebody may spot it and report the crime. By blocking such sites you are protecting criminals.

[GroobySteven]

To try and bring a discussion back to topic.

Can someone explain throttling to me?

Comcast do this a lot. They slow down or limit the amount of bandwidth on different types of users or from different places. So when our servers were all in Amsterdam, some users on Comcast (and other providers) would get worse speeds to our content than other users, despite being on the same backbones coming across the Atlantic. They won't admit they do this - but they do.
We've since created hubs in Dallas and Miami to counteract this, so that pretty much everyone in N.America gets similar/good speeds.

[skirtrustler]

They slow down or limit the amount of bandwidth on different types of users or from different places.

Throttling. There are three variants of throttling. (1) the ISP don’t buy enough transit bandwidth, e.g across the pond, so the traffic has to compete, (2) the ISP or transit provider stop the traffic negotiating its ‘window size’ (how much in flight unacknowledged traffic is allowed), which favours local services; and (3) the ISP or transit provider explicitly act in a non-neutral way by prioritising some traffic over others.

On the servers I run we have seen both 1 and 2, and as GroobySteven says you have to move your servers nearer the user (deals with (2)) or onto a high capacity route via well connected IXP .. AZURE / AWS / Softlayer etc, or use a CDN such as Akamai. Deals with (1).

Example: I can see someone with AT&T in Texas getting a crap speed because of the route and transit engineering used to get to very well connected servers in London docklands, while someone in Seattle is running at 10Mbit/s at the same time. Nothing explicitly sinister, just US ISP crap engineering.

The net neutrality debate is all about (3) : the deliberate prioritisation or choking of some traffic.

[giovanni_hotel]

The fact that it is in their interest to provide you with the best "internet experience" which includes access to any site you want to see. Unless, of course you have silly laws made by communist politicians who do not want you to see certain stuff and know generally everything better than you or any ISP director.

There is no need to regulate the market. It works best without regulation, on the basis of contracts between consumers and providers.

Did you just say monopolies promote competition in a free market??lol
Monopolies control pricing and access. They literally suck the oxygen from any potential competitors.

Get your head out of your ass and stop talking about what you pretend to be true.

Monopolies by nature CRUSH competition, they don't incentivize it.

What new business models have Walmart and Amazon created in their shadow???lol

[Tapatio]

To try and bring a discussion back to topic.

Can someone explain throttling to me?

I know a chick who’s into that.

[Ts RedVeX]

monopolies promote competition in a free market

lol you are so dumb :d

[filghy2]

I'm beginning to think that you aren't getting involved in a debate but are simply taking a delight in being contrary; you've contradicted your own arguments or evaded questions from Stavros specifically on so many points that either you have no grasp of what the reality is or you are just arguing for arguing's sake and don't really care what you say.

No, RedVex is a true zealot with a fixation on one idea. As with all zealots, argument is futile. If you want to see where this thread is headed, just check out these ones. http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/sho...pecies/page147
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/sho...un-Ban/page178

[GroobySteven]

Did you just say monopolies promote competition in a free market??lol
Monopolies control pricing and access. They literally suck the oxygen from any potential competitors.

Get your head out of your ass and stop talking about what you pretend to be true.

Monopolies by nature CRUSH competition, they don't incentivize it.

What new business models have Walmart and Amazon created in their shadow???lol

Actually Amazon have created many - from Comixology, to the Kindle books, to reselling second hand stuff on Amazon.

[MrFanti]

Monopolies started off as small businesses & grew through savvy business minded people.
Look at what Grooby started out as and look at it now....

[davejones65]

Thanks, trump voters. Fuck you all.

yea trump sucks capt obvious but fuck obama voters and bush, clinton and bush voters for all the shitty years they had too.