Friends in Las Vegas, please check in.

[Stavros]

B1 your thread has been totally hijacked.

Indeed, and I apologise to all for sending this thread in the wrong direction, it was a play on the word Solidarity/solidarity and has not led to any insights on contemporary Poland or the cause and effect of the massacre in Las Vegas.

[Aticus100]

Of course there isn't, if you don't have a gun and know how to use it yourself.

The sheer stupidity of this statement is only made worse by it seeming to come from someone we might otherwise assum to intelligent.

What do yo suggest the crowd should have done? Opened return fir in the Mandalay Bay Hotel?

I’m not trying to seem confrontational or abusive, but the stupidity of your comments are remarkable.

[broncofan]

I think that this thread came from a place of decency after a really inhumane attack. No matter what economic system we have people will be able to voluntarily show concern for one another. That is not the same thing as forced economic egalitarianism. It is not on the pathway to it either as it lacks compulsion, and has nothing to do with ownership of assets.

And it is amazing that given the number of these attacks and the number of other Americans who own guns, a person shooting the assailant is almost unprecedented. In this case, it's not even worth discussing. In other cases, where it's possible, there are reasons it so rarely happens and someone carrying a gun is more likely to accidentally shoot someone else or if he has a short fuse, do it intentionally.

Anyhow, I think the thread is a great idea...even if I don't know someone personally, if I've heard of them or spoken to them online, I am interested to hear they're alright.

[broncofan]

If any of you thinks that building your points of view solely around free (communist) Wikipedia's resources or posts from people who are for taking one's liberty to carry a gun around is a good idea, then you should probably think again.

So your definition of Communism is so broad it includes any collective endeavor or crowdsourced service.

I had a bunch of friends help me move one time instead of hiring movers. When they were placing the furniture down at my new apartment one of them said, "where do you want the couch?", and I responded, "in the corner comrade, and you mean where do WE want the couch." I know you lived under a Communist system but if you define it so broadly it precludes any cooperation or sense of broader community.

[Ts RedVeX]

My definition of a communist, to put it simple, would be something like "a greedy successful capitalist who started lying to gain even more profit"

Coming back to my defense of your rights.. Look at the terror attacks that had taken place in France, where people do are not allowed to carry guns around, where the terrorists simply walk into a restaurant or a nightclub, and open fire. No need to look for locations beyond range of an average guy with a pistol. If anything, this attack is a call for changing your pistols to rifles, and definitely not having your gun rights taken away or restricted.

Hypothetical situation. Maybe you are a communist standing behind the attack. You are not sure whether the inconvenient person who was supposed to attend that gig was silenced. How do you check whether your henchman did a good job? - Let's use some idiot, preferably the target's friend or acquaintance to ask on social media!

[peejaye]

Not sure where this thread is going?
A quote from Twitter reads;
Number of Americans killed by firearms since 1968 stands at 1,516,863 !
Source Richard Bacon. Works for BBC & lives in LA.

[Aticus100]

Redvex, all your hypothetical “what if the more good days had bigger guns” theories fall complexity apart when you look at the most basic of stats.

The American example simply proves that more guns = more innocent people killed.

As for the rest of you last post, you have complexity entered into the tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theory realm there so clearly sensible discourse with you is pointless.

[peejaye]

If anything, this attack is a call for changing your pistols to rifles, and definitely not having your gun rights taken away or restricted.

That's the problem Vex. It's exactly what is happening there! Gun-sales have risen dramatically since the shooting!
One and half million lives lost in almost 50 years

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Of course there isn't, if you don't have a gun and know how to use it yourself.

Sean Hannity basically said the same stupid thing you said regarding the shooting.

[Ts RedVeX]

Here are two random articles with deceptive titles, that at some point actually state that stricter gun rights do not mean fewer deaths:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.bc79b172e65b
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/50-stat...-fewer-deaths/

I do agree that trying to hit a guy 100 metres away, during an ambush in the middle of the night is probably a bad idea without the right equipment and training. I just totally don't get those of you who want to waive their rights! Why make it easier for terrorists to get you? Do you really believe terrorists or communists of other type will obey your strict gun rights? I'd say get stricter laws, some more censorship or "political correctness" - as people like to call it these days, invent a few more homophobias and racisms to divide society and prevent people from trusting each-other, and you will have to add another "S" in the "USA" and change those stars into tiny hammers and sickles.