where is Raphaella Ferrari ?

[filghy2]

no dummy - i have worked for Jay Sin since 2002 - we are friends. i could care less about Raphaella Ferrari, as I don't live in Brazil or Italy, nor do I film there. I simply stated that was their technique, anything else by you is simply your fucking nonsense reading into it with bias.

Your previous post used the word "overpay", which in normal usage would imply that paying these rates did not make commercial sense. You also clearly implied that these girls are being irrationally stubborn in continuing to demand these rates.

I used Raphaella's name because this thread is about her, and you were clearly suggesting that your explanation was why she wasn't shooting more videos. Whether you have any interest in her is irrelevant. Whether you are friends with Jay Sin is also irrelevant.

I have noticed previously that you are often gratuitously rude to people on this forum. Given they represent your current and potential customer base that does not sound like a good business strategy. Which one of us is the real dummy, I wonder.

[Telvin]

[christianxxx]

Your previous post used the word "overpay", which in normal usage would imply that paying these rates did not make commercial sense. You also clearly implied that these girls are being irrationally stubborn in continuing to demand these rates.

I used Raphaella's name because this thread is about her, and you were clearly suggesting that your explanation was why she wasn't shooting more videos. Whether you have any interest in her is irrelevant. Whether you are friends with Jay Sin is also irrelevant.

I have noticed previously that you are often gratuitously rude to people on this forum. Given they represent your current and potential customer base that does not sound like a good business strategy. Which one of us is the real dummy, I wonder.

1. I used the word overpay because as I clearly stated in my initial post, there is a recognized industry standard rate. that's just a fact, any judgment about commercial sense is again YOUR BIAS
2. I didn't imply anything about any model being stubborn. I CLEARLY STATED that once a model makes 3x-4x the recognized industry standard rate, its just common sense that the model is going to ask for the same rate moving forward. Again, that's just a fact, any judgment about "irrational" as YOUR BIAS
3. Yes genius, clearly my post was in regards to a possible reason why Raphaella hasn't filmed any more scenes. I mean, that's just obvious chief.
4. I can be rude to you, because you aren't a member of my site and you are never going to join my site no matter what. I love all of my member's and I listen to what they say and answer feedback. Much more than the average site owner. So take your fucking nonsense and stuff it in a sack.

[bluebottle]

no dummy - i have worked for Jay Sin since 2002 - we are friends. i could care less about Raphaella Ferrari, as I don't live in Brazil or Italy, nor do I film there. I simply stated that was their technique, anything else by you is simply your fucking nonsense reading into it with bias.

That's strange, somewhere on a blog somewhere you said you were in Brazil shooting with a couple of girls whilst you were there..
That sort of contradicts your statement...

[christianxxx]

That's strange, somewhere on a blog somewhere you said you were in Brazil shooting with a couple of girls whilst you were there..
That sort of contradicts your statement...

yeah I was there working for Jay Sin. lol

[filghy2]

1. 'Overpaid' means paid too much by definition, so maybe you should be more careful about your choice of words. You could have clarified what you meant in a civil manner, but you chose instead to be rude and dismissive.
2. Your own words were "after TS Playground films them, the model asks for that same price from everyone else, who of course refuse to pay it. Thus the model never films again." What can that mean, other than a view that they've priced themselves out of the market?
3. Your own words were "i could care less about Raphaella Ferrari, as I don't live in Brazil or Italy, nor do I film there." I simply noted that this is irrelevant, as is your further response.
4. I've seen you use this argument before, but how can you be so confident? How could it be that you can match every one of your subscribers with a username on this forum? In any case, you seem to be forgetting that you also sell videos on Gamelink.
Fyi, I've never been a member of your site, but I have purchased quite a few of your videos. In order to help you calculate the potential cost of arrogance, I've counted up a total of 19 videos purchased, which at $10.95 each, comes to about $208.
I notice that TS Playground video downloads sell for $14.95 on Gamelink, but they have 6 scenes compared to your 4, so their price per scene is slightly lower. It's interesting that they can do this despite paying models 3-5 times more according to you.

You'll note that everything I've written is based on facts and your own words, with no cheap shot insults. Can you do the same, I wonder?

[christianxxx]

1. 'Overpaid' means paid too much by definition, so maybe you should be more careful about your choice of words. You could have clarified what you meant in a civil manner, but you chose instead to be rude and dismissive.
2. Your own words were "after TS Playground films them, the model asks for that same price from everyone else, who of course refuse to pay it. Thus the model never films again." What can that mean, other than a view that they've priced themselves out of the market?
3. Your own words were "i could care less about Raphaella Ferrari, as I don't live in Brazil or Italy, nor do I film there." I simply noted that this is irrelevant, as is your further response.
4. I've seen you use this argument before, but how can you be so confident? How could it be that you can match every one of your subscribers with a username on this forum? In any case, you seem to be forgetting that you also sell videos on Gamelink.
Fyi, I've never been a member of your site, but I have purchased quite a few of your videos. In order to help you calculate the potential cost of arrogance, I've counted up a total of 19 videos purchased, which at $10.95 each, comes to about $208.
I notice that TS Playground video downloads sell for $14.95 on Gamelink, but they have 6 scenes compared to your 4, so their price per scene is slightly lower. It's interesting that they can do this despite paying models 3-5 times more according to you.

You'll note that everything I've written is based on facts and your own words, with no cheap shot insults. Can you do the same, I wonder?

1. i mean exactly that - they are overpaid. paying someone 3x-4x the standard rate means they are overpaid. how can you not get this?
2. yes, that is EXACTLY what I mean. They have priced themselves out of the market. how can you not get this?
3. ok
4. TS Playground obviously makes a lot more than I do, as we have already noted on this thread. hence why I work for him.

anything else?

[filghy2]

No, I think I'll just declare victory and go home

[christianxxx]

No, I think I'll just declare victory and go home

ok good talk chief.

[ilove2swallow]

go ts playground!