All top no Bottom WHY?

[Kriss]

And I suppose men who enjoy being topped by GGs with strap-ons are automatically two seconds away from heading to their nearest local gay bar, right?

I was suprised at how many Strap-ons were on sale in my local sex shop. They have maybe 30-40 dildoes and vibrators and 5 or so strap-ons. That's still a lot right? I mean Do that many Girls buy strap ons?
Incidentally to set to record 'straight' once and for all......

1.Watching pornography with one or more other males present is GAY.
2.Watching pornography, EVEN gay porn, with any number of males, AS LONG AS at least one FEMALE is present, that's STRAIGHT.
3.Watching pornography alone is neutral, kinda like eating a sandwich.
4.Now here it get's interesting, say for instance you lost a bet and maybe had to be sex slave to a gorgeous woman for a day and she's got you tied up on the bed and she's fucking your ass with this huge strap-on and she's saying "you love it don't you? you love it you little bitch!"and she's slamming your ass and you're getting off on this more than you have gotten off on ANYTHING IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE! That's still STRAIGHT!
5.Sports are GAY.

Legal disclaimer:some or all of this post may or may not in the event thereof be plagerised from the song 'GayNotGay' by King Missile.

[houstonshemalefan]

I only top because I am a "dominant" type. however, I will gladly suck a shemale's cock and even let them sperm in my mouth showing my submissive side. I will not, however, let a shemale or any one fuck my asshole. Well, it might take a very special shemale to open me up but I haven't met that girl yet!!!

[MonsieurValentine]

I guess my point is if you don’t like shecock what’s the attraction.

First of all, because some guy puts on a wig and a $10 pumps from Payless shoe source or Parade of shoes doesn't make him a woman. It's an insult to the females who struggled to get where they are at transition wise. So, seeing all these guys claim to be bottom only is what disgust the rest of us. It gives the tops a bad rep or name.

true that!

[Byrdman]

Interesting. I'm just the opposite,I can't figure out why a guy would want to be screwed by a TS?

If she looks like a woman and act likes a woman,she's a woman to me and I treat her as one. That extra bit in her pants adds some titillation,but it's something to be worked around, not on. I could give a shit less if TS/TG is functional? Frankly I prefer that they're not,but it's not a big deal. The one thing I'm not looking for is a guy in a dress? Been there,done that,don't like it.

I think being topped by a TS,or TV for that matter,is a safe outlet for a lot of confused guys to sort out their sexuality? There's always the old psychological safety valve,"I thought it was woman" to fall back on if you don't like it?

If you find you like being topped by a TS you're going to try a man eventually. Why not face your sexuality and go there first? It would save a lot of time and emotional turmoil for everyone in the long run.

I don't buy this argument at all.

1. Why would a guy want to be screwed by a TS? Well, because some of us enjoy bottoming. It feels really good.

2. So does that make us gay? Are we all - as you suggest - going to try men eventually? Well, when I was younger, I went about two years living almost exclusively as a gay man. I had sex almost exclusively with men. And, while I enjoyed at the time, eventually I got tired of it. I realized that, while I liked the sex part (topping and bottoming) I didn't really like guys physically. I was not attracted to them.

3. But then, I had always been attracted to women. Even ugly women. And sex with women satisfies me. But sometimes I like to be topped and soemtimes I like to top and the simple truth of the matter is that women can't top you and many women don't like anal sex. And that's part of the reason why I love Tgirls.

4. From a purely sexual standpoint, they satisfy my attraction in that they look like women. And no, they don't have to be ultrafeminine either. I've fucked the guy in a wig and the $10 Payless Pumps too... and I enjoyed it. What matters to me is their attitude...

5. Not to appear shallow, but all of the above applies from a purely sexual standpoint. From a romantic standpoint, I don't know. Apart from one LTR with a TS, I've only dated GGs. That's entirely different. When you're in love, you're whole outlook on sex changes.

6. So anyway to address your point about guys who like being topped being "confused", no, I'm not confused at all. I don't really care about labels. Being penetrated by a TS is something I enjoy. Being penetrated by a guy is NOT something I enjoy (though I have enjoyed it in the past and - who knows? - if I feel in love with a guy I might enjoy it again). You can call me gay or bisexual or whatever you like. But one thing I'm most definitely NOT is confused. And - I suspect - neither are many of the people on this board.

[Kriss]

2. So does that make us gay? Are we all - as you suggest - going to try men eventually? Well, when I was younger, I went about two years living almost exclusively as a gay man. I had sex almost exclusively with men. And, while I enjoyed at the time, eventually I got tired of it. I realized that, while I liked the sex part (topping and bottoming) I didn't really like guys physically. I was not attracted to them.

Now this confuses me, of course it's all good and everyone is different yet for me I couldn't imagine being with a guy. Women are a work of art. Men are ugly, not throw up ugly but more like an animal or a chair. Indifferent ugly. Men are like cars, all sharp angles and exhaust fumes and even the pricey models suffer frequent break downs. I suppose they serve a purpose, go from a to b, can carry groceries. Now what I don't get is how a TS woman is into 'straight' guys yet her 'boyfriend' works as a gay escort! She thinks he's 'straight' :lies and sees her as a woman. duh?
I couldn't do it for any amount of money, so he must be into guys right?

[TJT]

I knew that post would get some responses.

What caused me to revive it was going through the personals and seeing guys calling themselves straight wanting to be topped by a T-girl? Looking at the review section and seeing guys complaining that girls couldn't get it up,or wouldn't top them,just made me shake my head? The girls here are transitioning to a women and consider themselves such. Many of the supposedly "straight" guys here seem to be looking for a guy with tits? It's absurd.

An example.Years ago I'm sitting in a bar and two "straight" guys I know come in talking about picking up a transvestite and making him give them both blowjobs. I go,"I didn't know you two were gay?" They got pissed off and started yelling they weren't. I said,"You had sex with a man,what do you call that?" They went fucking ballistic and saying they weren't,they'd forced the guy to give them head. I said,"So you raped him?"

They were ready to tear my head off when they realized a whole bar of good ol' boys had overheard what they'd been up to? They made a quick retreat and I never saw them again.

In their minds it didn't count as gay sex a)as long as it was forced,(which I doubt,) and b) it was performed on them.

I think a lot of guys who have sex w/ T-Girls use it as a way to have the experience of having sex w/ a man while staying within a psychologically safe zone? If you're being topped,you're looking for a safe way to get fucked by a guy w/o actually doing a guy?

There's nothing wrong with liking guys and/or dick,but you can't have your cake and eat it too? It is what it is. Just don't call yourself "straight" if you're taking your girls dick up your ass or down your throat.

[Kriss]

In actuality, many of you here are hooked on T-girls because of what we consider to be a birth defect.

Spot on Arianna, but I interpret this quote from a slightly different perspective, It is also Our 'birth defect' in our brains that attract or 'hook' us 'faceless cock bandits' to Pre-op TS women. I for one see no need to 'correct' my sexual preferences so my 'defect' remains.

Warning! Some trace elements of sarcasm may be present in this post, may contain 'nutty' rogue elements. It's all just debate, don't anyone get offended or take it too serious.

[Kriss]

TJT makes good points and I don't doubt that many guys are like those described is his bar anecdote, yet......

Just don't call yourself "straight" if you're taking your girls dick up your ass or down your throat.

O.K. But don't call her a girl if you don't think she is a girl. Basically you are calling her a man without even realising it. Shame on you . It's political INcorrectness gone mad!!!....

[qeuqheeg222]

view sexuality like a number line with negative numbers to the left of zero and positve integers on the right of zero.one side represents all the way gay and the other all the way straight some might be a zero purely "bi"others a -3..straight in name,maybe some how had a kid with a wife he thought he had to marry but was always secretly a raving,feet on the ceiling bottom.....

[Byrdman]

2. So does that make us gay? Are we all - as you suggest - going to try men eventually? Well, when I was younger, I went about two years living almost exclusively as a gay man. I had sex almost exclusively with men. And, while I enjoyed at the time, eventually I got tired of it. I realized that, while I liked the sex part (topping and bottoming) I didn't really like guys physically. I was not attracted to them.

Now this confuses me, of course it's all good and everyone is different yet for me I couldn't imagine being with a guy. Women are a work of art. Men are ugly, not throw up ugly but more like an animal or a chair. Indifferent ugly. Men are like cars, all sharp angles and exhaust fumes and even the pricey models suffer frequent break downs. I suppose they serve a purpose, go from a to b, can carry groceries. Now what I don't get is how a TS woman is into 'straight' guys yet her 'boyfriend' works as a gay escort! She thinks he's 'straight' :lies and sees her as a woman. duh?
I couldn't do it for any amount of money, so he must be into guys right?

That's precisely my point. I don't think all of us are necessarily born a certain way and stay that way all our lives (though many of us no dobut do). I don't necessarily like the same music or clothes I liked ten years ago.

There was a time when I was attracted purely to men (my "gay phase" if you will). Then I gradually realized that what I liked was women. Yet, at the same time, I really enjoyed being topped and topping and sucking cock and all that stuff. I've always liked that. But I was attracted to women and Tgirls (maybe because society bombards us with images of women in sexual situations).

So, for me, seeing Tgirls now is a way to to satisfy some of my sexual enjoyment (the cock part, if you will), while satisfying some of my attraction (i.e. Tgirls look, and often act, like women).

As I said, I'm talking purely about physical attraction and enjoyment here. Romantic attachment is a different issue. I have fallen in love with women and with Tgirls before -- but that has to do with much more than their "plumbing" or physical appearance.