No, I Don't Have To Tell You I'm Trans Before Dating You

[holzz]

since there are more open trans-attracted dudes than ever before now, why not just date them openly? I don't thin it's safe, even if a guy won't kill the woman, it's still deceit.

That said, I do understand it could be perceived as transphobic, but nothing wrong with being open from the outset.

[SXFX]

the classic catch 22 of the trans world.

Every trans woman wants to be loved for who she is....and yes she should be loved and desired for who she is as a person.....regardless of her gender. and yes in a perfect world she will bump into prince charming who will not care....

And all the while she, the trans woman, looks at any guy who is actually ok with dating trans women or is actually perusing dating trans women to be a "faggot" or a "chaser" and thus not worth her time.

if you thin the usual GG story of the "nice guy" is fucking fucktarded this little thing is even more fucktarded.

oddly the only women who get this are the plus sized ladies......they know that chubby chasers is where they will get the love and adoration they deserve......thus they don't try to "turn" guys who are not into them into them....but then again a chubby can't hide being skinny? so maybe it's not the right match.

That said
1) Please ladies please be safe out there!
2) Sigh.....god you are going to fucking hate to hear this...if a guy says he's ok with dating trans women don't discount him......he may just be your prince charming and may treat you like the angel that you are.

now back to your regularly scheduled drama

[lifeisfiction]

There should always be some honesty about the person you are going out on date with. Failure to comply will have consequences (more than just physical harm). Doesn't matter you may not care, you have to respect the other person feelings. More lies and deceit built into the foundation of the relationship the more likely it won't go well in long run. I think if you like someone and want a relationship or like someone and it expect it to go forward, I think it would be good to explain to the person you are trans. What they do with information will tell the type of person they are. It's that guy I know who lied about his background and then found out she was the women he wanted all along and she would have dated him for who he is, but alas he couldn't undo the lie.

[IluvemHung]

A person should have a fair warning for many things like, if a person is married, HIV pos, gay trans, lesbian, killer, convicted felon, etc. Etc...

[Ts RedVeX]

I assure you that my arguments have nothing to do with social justice.

According to dictionaries, a "woman" is an adult female human being. According to the same dictionaries, a female is a person whose sex enables them to bear offspring or produce eggs. Having read those two one might think like you: a tranny cannot bear offspring, therefore they are not a woman. Let it sink for a while and tell me what you would call an adult human being who was born female, or a girl, and then lost the ability to bear offspring? Is it still a woman, or female, after reaching adulthood?

I am not going to elaborate any further on this matter but the definition of "woman" in dictionaries is obsolete and needs to be updated, so that it no longer has any connection with female. This way you will still have men and women, males and females, living along happily, and getting to know each other before they decide to spend their time and money on the so-called "dating". Personally, I would not date anyone I hadn't known and be in good relations with for at least a few years.

About deception, unless you specify to your date that you would like to have sex with them during your appointment, I cannot see why it would be relevant for them to reveal what their underpants conceal - be it a dick, pussy, period, warts, or a bag of weed. It is just none of your business, especially when you have concealed the fact that you just want to get laid rather than engage in romantic stuff people usually do on dates.

P.S. How would you like your girlfriend or wife to be addressed to as trans-lady at a restaurant? Surely that would be awesome wouldn't it?? Revealing to all the guests sitting at the near tables that your date has a dick... xd

[Sabrinna]

If we don't click it won't matter,if we do,it doesn't matter....

Thank you

[lifeisfiction]

I assure you that my arguments have nothing to do with social justice.

According to dictionaries, a "woman" is an adult female human being. According to the same dictionaries, a female is a person whose sex enables them to bear offspring or produce eggs. Having read those two one might think like you: a tranny cannot bear offspring, therefore they are not a woman. Let it sink for a while and tell me what you would call an adult human being who was born female, or a girl, and then lost the ability to bear offspring? Is it still a woman, or female, after reaching adulthood?

I am not going to elaborate any further on this matter but the definition of "woman" in dictionaries is obsolete and needs to be updated, so that it no longer has any connection with female. This way you will still have men and women, males and females, living along happily, and getting to know each other before they decide to spend their time and money on the so-called "dating". Personally, I would not date anyone I hadn't known and be in good relations with for at least a few years.

About deception, unless you specify to your date that you would like to have sex with them during your appointment, I cannot see why it would be relevant for them to reveal what their underpants conceal - be it a dick, pussy, period, warts, or a bag of weed. It is just none of your business, especially when you have concealed the fact that you just want to get laid rather than engage in romantic stuff people usually do on dates.

P.S. How would you like your girlfriend or wife to be addressed to as trans-lady at a restaurant? Surely that would be awesome wouldn't it?? Revealing to all the guests sitting at the near tables that your date has a dick... xd

I think everyone is talking about dating a person. In that context some things should be disclosed. I don't think anyone talked about telling every person on the street their own personal things. And we are not talking about just having dinner or causal conversation. I understand your point, but what would like to the world to be and the world that we currently live in are two different things. Nor was anyone talking about an appointment (unless I misread). I think many people want some sort of honesty in a relationship. A friend of mine always wanted to have his own kids. He dated a woman who couldn't have children. She was open and honest about it and they got married. They have adopted several kids and they are doing great. Not so well for the guy who didn't tell his gf he was infertile and she found out right before they were going to be married when they went to get blood work and some other things done. It went south. Honesty helps in a relationship.

[tacocorpv2]

Personally to me it does not matter, but given that not everyone is like me I wager it'd be safer in general to let them know (IF things are about to get serious enough) All depending on the situation I guess.

[gaysian71]

I personally don't care if a woman discloses her status to me or not. But that's because I happen to prefer a trans woman over a genetic woman. But over the years I have gotten to know quite a few trans women. And I don't think any of them would try to fool a man by not disclosing her trans status before the dating gets to having sex. Even the most passable ones.

[gaysian71]

Oh and one more thing
Blair said that there are a lot of men who don't want to be with a trans woman. I call bs on that. If the statistics on how many men watch trans porn are correct . Then I think the majority of men do want to be with a trans woman. But they've been shamed into not admitting it. But that's just mostly from religious beliefs.