UK Election June 08

[peejaye]

I agree, thank goodness it's over, the bias shown by the Media as made me sick & very confused as to why?
The Tories will triumph & it makes me wonder what sort of people I'm surrounded by when I go about my normal business!
We are not safe

[Jericho]

I agree, thank goodness it's over, the bias shown by the Media as made me sick & very confused as to why?

That's simple, init.
Cunts like Murdoch, with his mates, Branson and tory barrow boy, Sugar, don't want to part with a fucking penny more than they have to!

The Tories will triumph

Peejaye, I will not countenance this.
Not until unequivocally proven wrong...And even then, I want a recount!
And until then, I have hope that the people of this country will do the right thing.

It's going to be a long day and a longer night!

[peejaye]

I'll second the recount Jericho!

[Stavros]

In fact Martin Baxter's final prediction has been made today, based on polls up to yesterday the 7th. This gives the Conservatives a majority of 66 with 37.8% of the vote, a significant reduction in their expectations of 100+ when the election was called. Labour retain opposition status with 218 seats and a 31.2% share but he has the Liberal Democrats with 8 seats, which I think could be wrong, and UKIP with one seat and a 12.9% share of the vote whereas most polls had them barely around 5%; he predicts the SNP will lose 7 seats.

We will find out by this time tomorrow although Northern Ireland doesn't usually conclude its results until Saturday.
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

[Jericho]

I shall vote Green, which won't make a difference either way

I like the idea of the Greens, I hope they retain their deposits (at the expense of the Tories, of course).
Even I need a conscience...Occasionally!

Some say that after Brexit and the US elections, we should not be so safe in our predictions, and that people want change. But change is coming with Brexit, and isn't that enough for now?[/QUOTE]

No.

Without a doubt, Brexit has introduced uncertainty into our lives (Thanks a lot, you fucking idiots - When you dickheads die, I hope you spend eternity sucking on Boris Johnsons rancid cock!!!)

But Brexit's not the be all and end all of this election (no matter how much they'd like us to think otherwise).

[Jericho]

I'll second the recount Jericho!

Lets hope it's not needed.

[flabbybody]

After watching 6 hours of FBI Comey testimony Yanks were hoping Brits would give us election sanity with a significant May victory.
I'm watching New York returns and that's not happening.
We're all doomed

[Jericho]

Nick Clegg, ex deputy prime minister, libdem.
Just lost his seat to Labour.


Early, real early, but FUCK!

[Jericho]

Oh, and Amber Rudd, the Home Secretary...Fuck off, and when you get there, fuck off a bit more!

I am sorry for gloating.
This will be the last time.

But...Fuck (I bet stavros would have a word for what I'm feeling right now)!
(fuck you, fullofshit is not one word)!

[Stavros]

Oh, and Amber Rudd, the Home Secretary...Fuck off, and when you get there, fuck off a bit more!
I am sorry for gloating.
This will be the last time.
But...Fuck (I bet stavros would have a word for what I'm feeling right now)!
(fuck you, fullofshit is not one word)!

Perhaps you feel vindicated?

The word for Theresa May is catastrophe. Just as David Cameron did not need to hold a referendum on the EU in 2016 but did so, convinced the vote was won before the vote- and lost, so Theresa May, elevated by hubris and the polls that gave her a 20 point lead which would translate into a Commons majority of at least 100, swallowed the bait, and is now choked. It is now 5.30am, and the gossip is that later this morning she will announce her intention to resign, but not immediately. Boris Johnson, according to social media, has been planning his leadership bid since 1am, but now Amber Rudd has scraped back in with a majority of I think 400 in her constituency, those two and maybe David Davis could be in the frame.

If there is a key explanation here, on the one hand it has been the worst managed Conservative campaign in living memory with what one pundit on ITV (far superior coverage than the BBC which I stopped watching early on -I have been up all night) also called the worst manifesto of a government in British electoral history....a manifesto given to Cabinet members an hour before its launch that they had no input into and did not agree with, whose social care pledge had to be reversed within three days -simply unforgivable in what used to be a well-oiled (and well-funded) party machine. May refused to take part in a debate which Corbyn turned up to, and she came across as stiff, monotonous and utterly lacking in precisely the enthusiasm that Corbyn's campaign had in buckets.

On the other hand the other key is the role of social media and the extent to which it may have eclipsed mainstream media, with the vitriolic abuse of Corbyn in Murdoch's Sun and also in the Daily Mail having no effect. Labour is plugged into social media and the 'youth vote' with apps, twitter, facebook and all that, but for the Tories this is not a world they know or live in, indeed I have been citing polls that appear to have dismissed the 'youth vote' as unreliable because I too know little about this other world, yet it is clear that youth did turn out in large numbers, not least in my constituency which has dumped the Tory for Labour with a less than 2,000 vote majority -but we were a remain constituency, and there is a large cohort of students from a nearby university which I think has tipped the vote. I am also pleased that we recorded one of the highest votes for the Greens at nearly 2,000, and delighted to see UKIP's useless candidates losing their deposit, but probably not thrown in the dustbin of history as Nigel Farage will probably be leader again soon.

Crucially, this does nothing to give clarity to Brexit negotiations which are supposed to begin in two weeks time, not least because the Labour surge suggests a re-think on what the details might be, and the extent to which an accommodation with the EU may be sought to prevent a 'hard Brexit'. Moreover, if there is no overall control or a narrow majority, we may need another election in October.

More on this later, but congratulations to Labour for its enthusiastic, positive campaign, and for restoring to the agenda a raft of policies that were considered redundant. I still feel they are cowards on defence/Trident, have offered nothing on curriculum development in education, and cannot fund their programme after Brexit and are either lying about taxes or are just deluded, but that is for another day.