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    Quote Originally Posted by nysprod View Post
    I extrapolated the findings to include tg's because it's ultimately the same thing.
    That's not how scientific research works.

    I wish Donald Trump hadn't ruined the term fake news, because this is fake news.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamon View Post
    That's not how scientific research works.

    I wish Donald Trump hadn't ruined the term fake news, because this is fake news.
    Science based on surveys isn't science. There are all kinds of ways to twist surveys around to make them say anything you want.

    I look at it this way; whether a guy is hetero, gay, or into trannies, he wants to make his partner come

    I mean, come on who wouldn't want to make her cum all over



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    I like the girls I fuck to get off. It's not a trans thing with me. I just means I know how to fuck. Like being told you're attractive or smart, being considered a good fuck is an ego boost.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nysprod View Post
    Really? Trans girls are women and certainly we see them that way. Why? Because as we know, the fact they have male genitalia doesn't make a difference in their gender. Therefore, the findings of this study are applicable.
    Why alter the text of the study to state trans girls then, why not just leave it as women in general? Their male genitalia may not make a difference to their gender, but it certainly makes a big difference to the "chasers" you also mention in your OP. Just look at all the attention big cocks get on here. Then there's those who actively seek "heavy cummers" or just want to swallow shemale cum. Do they want the girl to cum for her enjoyment or purely to satisfy their own particular kink?

    Quote Originally Posted by nysprod View Post
    Science based on surveys isn't science. There are all kinds of ways to twist surveys around to make them say anything you want.
    So, you dismiss the survey as pseudo science but continue to state that it proves your right? That argument is flawed, you can't have it both ways.


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    these studies one reads in the press are just to push agendas. I bet some doctor or researcher who hates trans people made this. that's not true for me, i dont' get how it's true for any man, we have penises, we're MEN, what else are we supposed to have? we can see our own prics and hard-ons anytime.


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    Quote Originally Posted by holzz View Post
    these studies one reads in the press are just to push agendas. I bet some doctor or researcher who hates trans people made this. that's not true for me, i dont' get how it's true for any man, we have penises, we're MEN, what else are we supposed to have? we can see our own prics and hard-ons anytime.
    The study linked to has nothing to do with transgenders and doesn't even mention them, so how could it be created by someone who "hates" them? Try reading the article before giving a nonsensical irrelevant response.


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    Default Re: Study: Men Want TG's to Get Hard and Orgasm Because It Makes Them Feel Manly

    Quote Originally Posted by Laphroaig View Post
    Why alter the text of the study to state trans girls then, why not just leave it as women in general? Their male genitalia may not make a difference to their gender, but it certainly makes a big difference to the "chasers" you also mention in your OP. Just look at all the attention big cocks get on here. Then there's those who actively seek "heavy cummers" or just want to swallow shemale cum. Do they want the girl to cum for her enjoyment or purely to satisfy their own particular kink?
    According to the survey, men want their partner to come because it makes them feel more manly.

    And giving the lovely Sasha de Sade an orgasm would certainly make me feel more manly




    Quote Originally Posted by Laphroaig View Post
    So, you dismiss the survey as pseudo science but continue to state that it proves your right? That argument is flawed, you can't have it both ways.
    I didn't say survey's are psuedo science. Their findings can be valid but they're not scientific in the sense that
    a) they're not double-blind studies
    b) can't really be replicated by other's in the field
    c) frequently use too small of a sample size


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    Default Re: Study: Men Want TG's to Get Hard and Orgasm Because It Makes Them Feel Manly

    Quote Originally Posted by Laphroaig View Post
    The study linked to has nothing to do with transgenders and doesn't even mention them, so how could it be created by someone who "hates" them? Try reading the article before giving a nonsensical irrelevant response.
    OK. you the permission guy, cool!


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    Default Re: Study: Men Want TG's to Get Hard and Orgasm Because It Makes Them Feel Manly

    Quote Originally Posted by nysprod View Post

    And giving the lovely Sasha de Sade an orgasm would certainly make me feel more manly


    At last, something we can both agree on...

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    OK. you the permission guy, cool!
    This should help you, it's never too late...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/skillswise/english


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    When I'm looking at research like this, the first thing I do is look for obvious signs of sample bias. In this case, the sample members are WEIRD (White, Educated, from a country that is Industrialized, Rich, and Democratic). 80% of social research uses WEIRD samples, but we WEIRD people make up only 12% of the world population. Furthermore, the sample was drawn from freshmen college students and Web respondents, two more sources of possible bias.

    The results were biased by the questions asked. I value sex for the feelings of intimacy and bonding, but if I had been part of the survey, I would have been asked only about feelings of accomplishment and masculinity. The survey questions dealt with only a part of the experience of sex, and for many people it's probably not the most important part. But the researchers conclusions make sense only if you assume that masculinity is the part that really matters.

    The researchers found that some men have "masculine stress" (if I remember the term correctly), and these men use female orgasms to buttress their feelings of masculinity. But the research suggests that not all men do this. If you limit your claims to what the data actually shows, then it appears that some men may use female orgasms to reinforce their masculinity, but the data doesn't show that all men do that.

    As far as applying this to men who like transwomen, a lot of guys want to bottom. They value trans erections because it make it possible for transwomen to penetrate them. For those of us who want to top, I think erections are nice, but not necessary.

    As far as porn is concerned, part of the audience wants to see erect cocks, and another part of the audience is fine with cute limp cocks. Girls who can reliably get erections appeal to both sides of the market, while girls who are limp only appeal to one part. So girls who get erections sell more porn, and therefore are more valued, all other things being equal. Obviously, there are porn stars who are mostly limp but are valued for other reasons.

    It's difficult to do good research of this type. Getting an unbiased sample is difficult and prohibitively expensive. It's impossible to control for all the possible variables. Researchers are often unaware of their assumptions and the ways that their procedure is biasing the outcome. And overlooking these problems allows researchers to claim more than their results will support. This particular study is par for the course. It's suggestive, but it doesn't prove anything.


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