What is your view on Blaire White?

[holzz]

There are ways to combat bigotry and your wokeism is a misguided way to do it.

Either way, Blaire White speaks for a sizeable proportion of trans people who dislike some facets of trans culture.

[Fitzcarraldo]

Yes, what i said was anti-woke. Wokeism is not standard progressivism. Isn't that what I said?
Seems you want your country to descend into a race war. good. I'm not American and won't be affected.
Waht's good is you guys saying your Lost Cause myth is invalid. Lots of white Americans would say that, along with Jim Crow, native American genocide, Japanese internment, etc. were not good. And? How is that not acknowledging parts of your history that are "making white people" bad?
What's bad is the woke culture emanating from your movie studios, like making Cleopatra black. There are plenty of real-life black herorines to focus on. Hollywood writers are Ivy-League educated and they wasted their expensive and exclusive educations if they don't have that level of imagination.

Maybe you and he can prove how wokeism is the same as standard progressivism. I doubt you could.

As I'm not American, you solve your own issues.

You're also not comprehensible. I don't think you understand the debate.

[dirkmcgee]

That's the ANTI-woke argument. They refuse to acknowledge the parts of history that portray the USA or especially white Americans in a negative light.

The standard strawman argument that has absolutely no basis in fact.

What's being refused to be acknowledged is either absolutely false history (the 1619 Project), or disgustingly divisive discussions on racial hierarchy in elementary schools that when boiled down to it, are flat out segregationist in nature.

No one gives a fuck if a serious analysis of slavery or say Black Wall Street is being taught.

[Fitzcarraldo]

The standard strawman argument that has absolutely no basis in fact.

What's being refused to be acknowledged is either absolutely false history (the 1619 Project), or disgustingly divisive discussions on racial hierarchy in elementary schools that when boiled down to it, are flat out segregationist in nature.

No one gives a fuck if a serious analysis of slavery or say Black Wall Street is being taught.

Florida has legislated feelings:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carliep...or-their-race/

[holzz]

You're also not comprehensible. I don't think you understand the debate.

I understand all right. You just made a number of half-points, and assume the world has to accept your woke agenda.

[Fitzcarraldo]

I understand all right. You just made a number of half-points, and assume the world has to accept your woke agenda.

You assume I embrace everything that's "woke" simply because I oppose the opposite extreme. There is a vast middle ground. Apparently the UK is no different from a lot of the USA in not understanding that.

[Herkyalert]

She’s a sellout chasing the money for her “stances”. Anyone who supports Trump
is not a middle of the road conservative. She’s going full right wing because she knows the idiots on that side will support her if she plays to them. She’s a circus clown for entertainment and she knows what she’s doing.

[Fitzcarraldo]

The standard strawman argument that has absolutely no basis in fact.

What's being refused to be acknowledged is either absolutely false history (the 1619 Project), or disgustingly divisive discussions on racial hierarchy in elementary schools that when boiled down to it, are flat out segregationist in nature.

No one gives a fuck if a serious analysis of slavery or say Black Wall Street is being taught.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...m-ban-00098492

[holzz]

You assume I embrace everything that's "woke" simply because I oppose the opposite extreme. There is a vast middle ground. Apparently the UK is no different from a lot of the USA in not understanding that.

Lots of white Americans accept the bad shit past white Americans did. You both mentioned woke is good. if that's what you think, so be it. I disagree strongly since it's an irrational and divisive ideology. Normal egalitarianism is well-reasoned; woke isn't. One can acknowledge native American genocide without being woke. Or making half-points for kicks without even stating what wokeism is.

[holzz]