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    Quote Originally Posted by flabbybody View Post
    Buy gold, sell dollars, and make sure there's at least a year's supply of spirits in the basement. My choice is Canadian Rye.
    Surely it has to be Trump vodka, who can resist that grin?...

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    The Executive Order issued from the White House may have been a deliberate hand grenade designed to blow off for Trump's voters, implying he had complied with a campaign promise. That Trump can insult James Robart as a 'so-called judge' is merely par for this particular hole, as we know by know that anyone who disagrees with him is in some way deficient. The point is Trump doesn't care, and the claim that the EO deliberately intended to target both Green Card holders and Muslims appears to underline that the EO was never about either protecting the US from potential terrorists or tightening up the law on immigration, it was just a publicity stunt. The reactions thus show Republicans contradicting each other in a mad scramble to defend a policy that has

    violated the guarantee of equal protection and the first amendment’s establishment clause, infringed the constitutional right to due process and contravened the federal Immigration and Nationality Act.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...utional-crisis

    In addition, just as Calamity Sean denied it, and Paul Ryan claimed that had the EO been a 'Muslim ban' he would not have supported it, Rudolph Giuliani claims it is not only precisely a Muslim ban, but that is what Trump told him, thus:

    I’ll tell you the whole history of it,” Giuliani told Fox News last week. “When he first announced it, he said ‘Muslim ban’. He called me up, he said, ‘Put a commission together, show me the right way to do it legally.’”
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...n-judge-ruling

    That this 'Muslim ban' does not cover either Egypt or Saudi Arabia, where Trump has business interests is of course just one of those things. The effect has been to imply incompetence in the White House, but it could just be one of Steven Bannon's infernal tricks to flush out the 'enemies' who can then be paraded in front of the 'voters' as the people responsible for preventing Trump from 'Making America Great Again'. Trump can lose the argument in law, but he wins the politics, for as long as the Trump voters support him.


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    Masks are off, facism took over. A bully threw the chess board in the air, fucked his own pawns dry in the ass. Nothing will ever be the same again.

    Bannon Goebels wakes up, reads a few pages from the Art of War, some CIA reports on how they succesfully killed democracy and installed some generals for the benefit of a few businessmen.

    Then he broods over how he can use the protest as an excuse to advance the grip on power. Having the left AND center defending the devil's incarnate "Muslim" is gold for them.

    America is being grated indeed, it's allies will have to scramble to save their furniture.


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    This is what you got - you were warned
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    The latest is the claim that the media is downplaying reporting of terrorist attacks, with a list of 78 supposed examples. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0afbfb3d5342

    This is laughable as it includes a number of attacks that received widespread media coverage. It has also emerged that Kellyanne Conway's fictional Bowling Green massacre claim was not a slip, but has been made twice before. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...re-three-times

    They are certainly following Dr Goebbels' advice: "If you tell the same lie enough times, people will believe it; and the bigger the lie the better".


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    Trump needs to destroy the free press. Lügenpresse translates to “lying press,” was employed by the Third Reich in Nazi propaganda targeting Jews, communists, and the foreign press who dared report on Hitler’s mania and monstrous atrocities.

    Donald Trump used it at his rallies to heckle members of the press. The underlying aim of lügenpresse is to sow distrust and disbelief in the Fourth Estate in the service of a competing agenda, and no American figure in modern history has sought to delegitimize the press quite like Trump.

    Trump consistently characterizes the press as “liars” and “among the most dishonest groups of people I’ve ever met.”

    Trump delivered an address at CIA headquarters where he attacked the media again, claiming that numerous reports of inauguration crowds in the 200,000 range—backed by photos of a not-so-packed National Mall—were false, with the President ginning up an attendance number of 1.5 million, while falsely claiming that crowds “went all the way back to the Washington monument.”

    Even more disturbing, however, was Press Secretary Sean Spicer’s warning to journalists during a press conference: “There’s been a lot of talk in the media about the responsibility to hold Donald Trump accountable, and I’m here to tell you it goes two ways. We’re going to hold the press accountable as well.” Lügenpresse.

    Here’s another view:
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...e-steve-bannon


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    Quote Originally Posted by filghy2 View Post
    The latest is the claim that the media is downplaying reporting of terrorist attacks, with a list of 78 supposed examples. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0afbfb3d5342

    This is laughable as it includes a number of attacks that received widespread media coverage. It has also emerged that Kellyanne Conway's fictional Bowling Green massacre claim was not a slip, but has been made twice before. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...re-three-times

    They are certainly following Dr Goebbels' advice: "If you tell the same lie enough times, people will believe it; and the bigger the lie the better".
    On the one hand one has to ask if Americans really are so ignorant they cannot spell Denmark or even San Bernardino, but on the other hand I think the simple truth is that the people who prepared this document don't care. Somewhere in that statement should be a shocking reaction, but as this aspect of the Trump Presidency now seems standard, it will be regarded as normal for official documents on the United States of America to look like they were written by an 11-year old. And my apologies to those 11-year old Americans who can spell.


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    Mein Kampf sums up an approach to propaganda - I think this, in part, answers the above
    Propaganda must always address itself to the broad masses of the people. (...) All propaganda must be presented in a popular form and must fix its intellectual level so as not to be above the heads of the least intellectual of those to whom it is directed. (...) The art of propaganda consists precisely in being able to awaken the imagination of the public through an appeal to their feelings, in finding the appropriate psychological form that will arrest the attention and appeal to the hearts of the national masses. The broad masses of the people are not made up of diplomats or professors of public jurisprudence nor simply of persons who are able to form reasoned judgment in given cases, but a vacillating crowd of human children who are constantly wavering between one idea and another. (...) The great majority of a nation is so feminine in its character and outlook that its thought and conduct are ruled by sentiment rather than by sober reasoning. This sentiment, however, is not complex, but simple and consistent. It is not highly differentiated, but has only the negative and positive notions of love and hatred, right and wrong, truth and falsehood.


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    “They are right. We expect a return on investment.”
    -Betsy DeVos in the ’90s about being accused of buying influence with campaign donations

    DeVos gave substantial sums of money to the Senators who voted to confirm her new position as Secretary of State for Education, which she sees as her opportunity to 'advance God's kingdom' across the USA (which is, nevertheless, a Republic). Marco Rubio received over $90,000 -there is a list in this link.
    http://www.business2community.com/go...harts-01774485



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