Illegal downloads of Tgirl porn, you views please

[Jennifer_English]

As someone who is very new to the scene, here is my view.

McManaman you said that porn is a business that people go into because they lack the skill to do any other job...

I went to university, have worked in the insurance industry for most of my working life and (if I chose) certainly have the intelligence to do a 'normal' job. Running a decent website with regular updates isnt something you can learn to do in a week, in fact I spent 6 months learning!!

Why have I chosen to work in the adult industry...? you show me an insurance job where I can earn enough to pay for breast augmentation, Facial surgery, eventually SRS etc etc.. Transitioning isnt cheap you know!! I know for a lot of my friends this is the reason they escort. Nothing against escorts, indeed as I said most of my friends do this and i see nothing wrong with it. It just isnt for me.

Anyway I do not wish to attack your (ill-informed) views so onto the question at hand....

YES - in my opinion illegal downloading does harm the industry... If you had ANY idea how much work I, and many others put into setting a website up and how much it annoys me when i see people posting MY pictures that I worked HARD to produce you would agree...

My business partner and I spent almost a year learning how to take decent pictures, how to get the lighting correct etc etc.. Now the website has only been running for four months and FINALLY we are starting to see some sort of return for all our hard work...

My members pay good money to see pictures on my website so why should someone else get it for free.?

If someone ripped my site and posted it as there own, most of my income would stop. That would mean I wouldnt be able to afford new outfits, studio hire, hosting fees etc. etc. and my site would close....

As for people like Seanchai etc. exploiting girls... I personally know 4 or 5 girls (including me) who have appeard on Shemale Yum - Do you think any of them felt exploited when they left with 3 or 400 pounds in their pocket.... no way!!

Anyone out there who does download illegal porn from the net.... your STEALING, dont kid yourselves and its from very real people like ME...

Kisses

Jennifer
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P.s. my parents both know exactly what I do and are VERY proud of me...

[BeardedOne]

Bill Gates uploads it magically to your computer on a daily basis.

Hey, that's how I get mine. Now if I can only get it to stop crashing before the money shot.

Running a decent website with regular updates isnt something you can learn to do in a week, in fact I spent 6 months learning!!

Jennifer, I remember some of your initial pings for advice and comment. So glad to see that things are going well.

[peggygee]

Hello,

As views have been requested on the subject of illegal porn, here comes mine.

Piracy of intellectual property is considered by all those who partake in it as being a soft crime, fo which a self-pardon can be justified on the grounds "I'm not hurting anyone", "everyone does it", "it's not like I am going to get busted for it" or "like they need any more money, they are obviously doing just fine".

By you know what, I don't pirate anything. I don't buy DVDs before their official release from a car boot sale, I don't download music unless I have paid my 99 cents to ITunes, shit, I don't even upload a porn pic unless I own it or have paid for it.

So now let me present the reality of piracy:

Even in the most conservative of estimates, I have lost, this year, at least 40 to 50 percent of my revenue from the purchase of non-original DVD copies, Internet publication without licence and stolen passwords for access to commercial web sites.
That 40-50% has denied me the funds necessary to succeed in my legal battle with the US government, which has resulted to date, in not just the indefinite release of new DVDs and hardcore content on Joannajet.com (that pirates considered as worth spending the time to download illegaly) but also in the firing of three, very talented and able, US citizens because I could not be there to offset the revenue being lost to piracy...
For fuck's sake, even the graphic design company who works on my boxcovers has had to fire someone because I am no longer releasing often enough.

Whether it be porn, movies, music, software or any other form of intangible product, those that acquire it without remunerating it's creator consider themselves as pirates and somehow that makes it OK.
Well if you are such a pirate, I doubt that you are on a ship, wear an eye patch, have scurvy, strut around on a wooden leg or sport a foul-mouthed parrot on your shoulder so let's cut out the self-indulgent glamourous name calling and face up to the fact that you nothing more than a petty thief robbing behind the anynomity of a keyboard.


Joanna Jet
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I apologize in advance for the length of this post, it is something I feel strongly about as well. Also, while it addresses all of digital copyright infringement in general, much of it is relevant to adult entertainment material.

While not trying to render a Solomon like decision, or sound like John Kerry, I will say that I understand both viewpoints, and they both have merits.

If the media industry is unable to re-coup the money it spends on producing it’s product, then obviously there will be no money to pay talent, and other related production costs.

End result to the consumer, no new, or simply shoddy product.. So, why can’t people see that it is in their best interests to stop illegally obtaining digital material.

But, ‘twere’ the problem and it’s solution so simple:

1. You can’t legislate morality, specifically in the case of, The Digital Millennium Copyright Act, (DMCA) is a United States copyright law which criminalizes production and dissemination of technology that can circumvent measures taken to protect copyrights.TheEuropeans, in May of 2001 came up with , EU Copyright Directive or EUCD, which is comparable to the DMCA.

Ever hear of it, most likely not, but one if the things is says is you could be in ‘big trouble’ for making copies of your friends cds for mixtapes.

Kinda, like Nancy Reagan, coming up, with ‘just say no’ to drugs, sounded nice on paper in a meeting but hasn’t meant much to the average person, or piracy.

2.But what about, law enforcement: The FBI kicking in warehouse doors, in Flushing, Queens, NY, with operatives from the RIAA, seizing millions of dollars worth of pirated, software, music, and movies. Surely, that must have taken a bite, out of crime. One would think so, wouldn’t one. But in every major city, that I have been to in the world, there is absolutely no problem what so ever purchasing pirated material, often for pennies on the dollar.

3.Come on, surely it can’t be as bleak as all that, aren’t there technological safeguards in place to prevent copying and mass distribution of digital material. For every encryption safeguard, for every codec put in place to prevent you from getting free stuff, there is a 13 year old kid in Finland, or Florida, cracking it, as we speak, and the crack will be on the internet and around the world in hours.

Face it folks the genie is out of the bottle, every one has or knows some one who has cd or dvd burners. Digital recording equipment, and the accompanying software is very affordable and easy to use. Technologically, it is a no – brainer to copy, just about anything byte for byte, bit for bit, in a spot on manner.

It is a very difficult problem, with seemingly no solution in sight. And one can yell, cajole, coerce, until the cows come home, or the swallows come back from where ever the hell they have flown off to, it’s not going to solve the problem.

So, what’s a viable solution, well actually it’s multi-tiered one:

A.Legislation and law enforcement are good, but put some teeth into them Now that doesn’t mean fining some teenager living in the projects of the Bronx, $1,000 per song, movie or video, he or she has illegally downloaded. Just like you wouldn’t lock the town ‘stoner’ up in a Federal prison for smoking a ‘blunt’ behind the Dairy Queen. Though you most likely would want to go up higher in the criminal food chain, and impose stiffer penalties.

B.Oh, and remember those countries that I mentioned with all the pirated stuff. Well guess what many of them are our friends, ie we trade with them, we loan them money, we keep their governments from being overthrown, you know friend stuff. And, I am not just referring to some third world impoverished countries, but so called first world as well. Counterfeiting in many counties in not done in some small, dank basement. But rather is big business. This memo from the U.S. Dept Of State http://www.state.gov/e/eb/rls/rm/30717.htm , http://www.iipi.org/topics/Arts_culture_music.asp , from the IIPI, and this additional State Department memo illustrate the point http://cryptome.org/ip-war.htm as well as this from Europe show the scope of the problem http://europa.eu.int/rapid/pressRele...guiLanguage=en .Somewhat boring reading, but makes the point. What is our government, doing about international counterfeiting, smacking wrists.

C.Technology, it is a game of cops and robbers, of one upsmanship. The so-called good guys come up with something to keep the bad guys from stealing their stuff, the bad guys figure it out, defeat it, rinse and repeat, ad nauseum. Gotta, pump more money, time and energy, into that process, where does that money come from, take a guess.

D.We are almost ready to wrap, this is the part where the companies come in
Memo to: CEOs, CTOs, CFOs, CIOs, et al, it’s not 1995 anymore. The way you sell product is not the same as you did back then. E-commerce folks have a grasp of this, brick and mortar folks are catching up.

Delivering a product at a competitive price point, securing your infrastructure as much as possible (don’t be cheap with IT) This includes but is not limited to the securing of passwords, credit card information, etc. are some things that can keep piracy at bay. Be creative in your marketing, it is a very competitive marketplace.

Bug the hell,out of your trade associations, have that lobbyist, bug Wagington, again think food chain

Finally. I am thinking we need to have a summit with government, media suppliers, IT people, open source folks, electronic freedom folks, consumer groups, and other interested parties, to further hash this issue out

This is not just an intellectual property problem, but a dollars and cents problem, with international consequences that hurts us all.

[BeardedOne]

Unfortunately, we (Many of us) are in America in which most latch onto as the "Land of the free" (Emphasis on "FREE").

Lazy, spoiled, many illiterate (Or bordering on it), with (What some have referred to here) an "entitlement" to get what we want, when we want it, for little or no cost.

The average American hasn't a clue, or ignores it if they do, as to where most of their entertainment comes from. Music, viddies, porn, they all drop from the sky on a whim. I want it. I want it now. I want it free.

People suck. It's genetic, hereditary, and consistant.

And that's the hill you have to climb.

[blahblahblah]

Jenny,

hereby i'll try to repeat myself, and please, read my sentencies more carefully this time:

3. People that do not know how to use their brains, and do not have enough physical skills other than
nice looking bodies, OR (this is important) people not accepted by the society for some reasons, the
people who do not get enough economical and all other kind of help from the society in order to get rid of their
(often huge) personal problems. In order to make their living, they simply have to sell their souls and
their boides to a broad audience in a very low and miserable way. I see them as some kind of society victims,
and i personally feel sorry about this kind of people.

And the words above perfectly explain your situation:

McManaman you said that porn is a business that people go into because they lack the skill to do any other job...

I went to university, have worked in the insurance industry for most of my working life and (if I chose) certainly have the intelligence to do a 'normal' job. Running a decent website with regular updates isnt something you can learn to do in a week, in fact I spent 6 months learning!!

Why have I chosen to work in the adult industry...? you show me an insurance job where I can earn enough to pay for breast augmentation, Facial surgery, eventually SRS etc etc.. Transitioning isnt cheap you know!! I know for a lot of my friends this is the reason they escort.

So, what do you think?

[BeardedOne]

[joannajet]

Hi everyone,

On returning to this thread since my last post, it is gratifying to see so many posts offering such considered thoughts on this topic.
The appearance, between these, of a smattering of glory posts by pirates offering disdain for the consequences of their actions shows there will always be an element able to consider selfishness as an attribute and no words will change that.

But for the remaining majority, this thread appears to be about acknowledging the worth of pausing for thought before a right-click to piracy...
And it is through this pause that piracy becomes a matter of conscience rather than opportunity.

I therefore thank the majority.


With regards,


Joanna Jet
xxx

[stillies77]

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