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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai
    Oh ok. So scrap everything you've previously said - it's not that you want to give your money to charity or think people are wrong for joining adult sites or even that news isn't for free. It's that you think I'm a jerk and you have jealousy issues about my lifestyle. That's fine, why didnt you come out and say that originally instead of making ridiculous comments and claims. So don't join my websites if you think I'm a jerk, I wouldn't pay money to a company I didn't believe provided good service either and had personal issues with the owner (although jealousy would never come into it). Please however, don't clump all website owners into the same "jerk" category as you would I, Allanah Starr, Jennifer English, Krissy, Sexy Jade, Joanna Jet, Vicki Richter, etc - there are many really nice website owners out there and they're not ALL jerks so if you can get over you inferiority complex you might want to join one of their sites and contribute back into an industry you obviously enjoy.seanchai
    Hi Seanchai!

    Let me just clarify one thing:

    When people consider you being a jerk, most often they do not automatically have
    a feeling of jealousy against you. Some people do that, but some not. That's something
    you'll have to learn. Like me, for example: There is no reason in the world for me to feel
    jealous toward you, especially not the economical one. I make a lot of money, money is
    relatively speaking not an issue for me, and the best of all is that i do not need to do
    some ass-to-mouth tricks or similar methods in order to achieve that. I use some other,
    much higher and generally better human skills in order to do that.

    Why i think you are a jerk (but only in this context):

    Since the begining of the human kind, some people have been more skillful than other. And
    in general we can classify them into 3 groups in regards to this very conversation between
    us (of course, i'm speaking here about physically and mentaly relatively healthy people):

    1. People that know how to use their brains in order to achieve better living and higher social status.
    This kind of people are often most superior, often called the "top of the hill".

    2. People that do not know how to use their brains, but who in spite of that have developed good physical skills.
    This kind of people use the power of their bodies to make their living. Construction workers, cleaners,
    etc.. Common people that often have many social and economical issues, but who struggle through
    their lives in their ways and often succeed to make a relatively good living worth a good human being.
    Quite often, they even manage to become relatively wealthy, but it takes them a lot of effort.

    3. People that do not know how to use their brains, and do not have enough physical skills other than
    nice looking bodies, OR (this is important) people not accepted by the society for some reasons, the
    people who do not get enough economical and all other kind of help from the society in order to get rid of their
    (often huge) personal problems. In order to make their living, they simply have to sell their souls and
    their boides to a broad audience in a very low and miserable way. I see them as some kind of society victims,
    and i personally feel sorry about this kind of people.

    You, surprisingly enough, probably could be placed close to the group #1. You use your brain, you've got good web
    skills and similar, but unfortunately, you make your money by exploiting the people belonging to group #3 and selling
    that shit to the people who quite often belong to group #2 and very seldom to group #1. That's the reason why i think
    you are a jerk here. That's all. Appart from that, you are probably a good guy.




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    I'm not a good guy, I'm a great guy and I've never exploited anybody directly in my life.
    In fact the closest I've came to exploitation is buying sneakers, clothes and cheap electical products that were probably made by poorly waged workers, I'm willing to bet you do the same. Why do you think I exploit people?

    I'm certainly more comfortable selling adult erotica to people than many jobs which although may appear more upstanding, in my opinion, exploit people - ie; certain salespeople, certain lawyers, cosmetic surgeons, etc. You have such a distain for porn yet you are here on a porn site and contributing to it's survival and profit? Hung Angels isn't opertated for fun, it's a business.

    I think you need to take a good look at your motivations for coming here and for getting into discourse by making a point that was obviously, rather pointless and stupid. You've also managed to insult pretty much every user of this forum, the girls and the guys?

    seanchai



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    I'm certainly more comfortable selling adult erotica to people than many jobs which although may appear more upstanding, in my opinion, exploit people - ie; certain salespeople, certain lawyers, cosmetic surgeons, etc.
    EZ Loans, payday check-cashing service: APR 521 1/2 % (I shit thee not).

    You've also managed to insult pretty much every user of this forum, the girls and the guys?
    I know I feel like shit after reading that. Exploit me more! Where's the T, C & A?


    "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai
    I'm not a good guy, I'm a great guy and I've never exploited anybody directly in my life.
    In fact the closest I've came to exploitation is buying sneakers, clothes and cheap electical products that were probably made by poorly waged workers, I'm willing to bet you do the same. Why do you think I exploit people?

    I'm certainly more comfortable selling adult erotica to people than many jobs which although may appear more upstanding, in my opinion, exploit people - ie; certain salespeople, certain lawyers, cosmetic surgeons, etc. You have such a distain for porn yet you are here on a porn site and contributing to it's survival and profit? Hung Angels isn't opertated for fun, it's a business.

    I think you need to take a good look at your motivations for coming here and for getting into discourse by making a point that was obviously, rather pointless and stupid. You've also managed to insult pretty much every user of this forum, the girls and the guys?

    seanchai
    I think he's jealous!



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    I think he's jealous!
    Oh, c'mon, you know he is.


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    Hello,

    As views have been requested on the subject of illegal porn, here comes mine.

    Piracy of intellectual property is considered by all those who partake in it as being a soft crime, fo which a self-pardon can be justified on the grounds "I'm not hurting anyone", "everyone does it", "it's not like I am going to get busted for it" or "like they need any more money, they are obviously doing just fine".

    By you know what, I don't pirate anything. I don't buy DVDs before their official release from a car boot sale, I don't download music unless I have paid my 99 cents to ITunes, shit, I don't even upload a porn pic unless I own it or have paid for it.

    And before you think it, it is not because I am those assholes who can't be bothered to get it for free or worse, doesn't know how. It is because I happen to know that by partaking in an act of piracy, I actually do hurt someone, I find myself unable to justify my ethics through the actions of a majority and I consider myself as not having the right to judge upon the right to success of another.

    But at the end of the day, all of the philosophy and ethics I have just imparted are already understood by the so very many who choose to pirate but it is willingly dismissed in the belief that such actions will make no difference in either their lives or in that of the victims of their piracy.

    So now let me present the reality of piracy:

    Even in the most conservative of estimates, I have lost, this year, at least 40 to 50 percent of my revenue from the purchase of non-original DVD copies, Internet publication without licence and stolen passwords for access to commercial web sites.
    That 40-50% has denied me the funds necessary to succeed in my legal battle with the US government, which has resulted to date, in not just the indefinite release of new DVDs and hardcore content on Joannajet.com (that pirates considered as worth spending the time to download illegaly) but also in the firing of three, very talented and able, US citizens because I could not be there to offset the revenue being lost to piracy...
    For fuck's sake, even the graphic design company who works on my boxcovers has had to fire someone because I am no longer releasing often enough.

    Whether it be porn, movies, music, software or any other form of intangible product, those that acquire it without remunerating it's creator consider themselves as pirates and somehow that makes it OK.
    Well if you are such a pirate, I doubt that you are on a ship, wear an eye patch, have scurvy, strut around on a wooden leg or sport a foul-mouthed parrot on your shoulder so let's cut out the self-indulgent glamourous name calling and face up to the fact that you nothing more than a petty thief robbing behind the anynomity of a keyboard.

    So there you have it, that is my view on the download of illegal TS porn.

    As you will have cleary seen, I feel very strongly on this matter but, unfortunately, it seems that only those who rely on the return from their creative efforts can truly appreciate and respect the value it deserves.

    And so I close with a question...

    If, when you looked at your next paycheck, you saw a smiley face and a "Fuck you" comment next to a $100 deduction, how would you feel that someone had helped themselves to your hard-earned income just because they could and that this was OK because they had judged you could do without it?

    Joanna Jet
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    Joanna Jet is great.
    Eloquent and never afraid to put her point across succinctly.

    Anyone who has any pull with the INS should look into her case, she makes jobs, pays well and is one of the most motivated and determined people in this business.

    seanchai



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    Joanna when I read such comments from you it only makes me miss you more and helps me remember why I ADORE you so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai
    I'm not a good guy, I'm a great guy and I've never exploited anybody directly in my life.
    In fact the closest I've came to exploitation is buying sneakers, clothes and cheap electical products that were probably made by poorly waged workers, I'm willing to bet you do the same. Why do you think I exploit people?

    I'm certainly more comfortable selling adult erotica to people than many jobs which although may appear more upstanding, in my opinion, exploit people - ie; certain salespeople, certain lawyers, cosmetic surgeons, etc. You have such a distain for porn yet you are here on a porn site and contributing to it's survival and profit? Hung Angels isn't opertated for fun, it's a business.

    I think you need to take a good look at your motivations for coming here and for getting into discourse by making a point that was obviously, rather pointless and stupid. You've also managed to insult pretty much every user of this forum, the girls and the guys?

    seanchai
    Tell me, would you like to see your daughter, or your son acting as a porn star? What would you think about the people who got them involved in such kind of shit, in that case? Answer that to me, but honestly.

    Oh, yeah, i never insult any girls, but only guys. And that rule is very hard to break on this site, isn't it?



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    Quote Originally Posted by McManaman
    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai
    I'm not a good guy, I'm a great guy and I've never exploited anybody directly in my life.
    In fact the closest I've came to exploitation is buying sneakers, clothes and cheap electical products that were probably made by poorly waged workers, I'm willing to bet you do the same. Why do you think I exploit people?

    I'm certainly more comfortable selling adult erotica to people than many jobs which although may appear more upstanding, in my opinion, exploit people - ie; certain salespeople, certain lawyers, cosmetic surgeons, etc. You have such a distain for porn yet you are here on a porn site and contributing to it's survival and profit? Hung Angels isn't opertated for fun, it's a business.

    I think you need to take a good look at your motivations for coming here and for getting into discourse by making a point that was obviously, rather pointless and stupid. You've also managed to insult pretty much every user of this forum, the girls and the guys?

    seanchai
    Tell me, would you like to see your daughter, or your son acting as a porn star? What would you think about the people who got them involved in such kind of shit, in that case? Answer that to me, but honestly.

    Oh, yeah, i never insult any girls, but only guys. And that rule is very hard to break on this site, isn't it?
    Honestly, I wouldn't want my son or daughter to be a performer - but I wouldn't want them to do many other jobs either, I'd be more upset if they joined the military, especially now as I feel they're getting more abused than most employees by their bosses.
    However, it's not for me to judge the people who do choose to go into military life or do CHOOSE to go into adult work. It's their choice. What made you so righteous that you can judge what they do for their living.
    I've never exploited anybody who has worked for my company, I understand it can go on in this industry but in what industry is there no exploitation. Just because the industry doens't fit into your morals it doesn't mean it's exploitative.

    I ask again, you keep failing to answer and just come up with more misguided barbs - why are you on this site and why do you feel it's ok to insult pretty much everybody in here with your self-righteous attitude?

    seanchai



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