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[Vicki Richter]

I have a few questions on piracy... I am playing the devil's advocate here as I typically do, and my opinions may not reflect the suggestive nature of the questions.

Here are some scenarios:

Members of most websites are typically entitled to download the images or movies to their hard drive for their future enjoyment. So is it still piracy if someone later downloads the same photos or videos off of some pirate site since they were previously entitled to do so because they were a member of that site. I could see this going either way. If they simply didn't have time to download that content before but they really liked it, maybe they should get another subscription so they can grab it.

Is it not piracy for the producers of content, be they musicians, web masters, or Hollywood big screen producers to make shit content and market it as something else? For example, I was at Hollywood video looking through the "new releases". As you all know, they stock heavily on various new releases that are big name movies that will draw many rentals. Well this movie called "War of the Worlds" was on the shelf and they bought like 20 copies of it to rent out. This wasn't the Tom Cruise version, it was some crappy B movie version I could barely stand to watch 15 minutes of. That is piracy too, just a legal kind. Buyer beware right?

What about competing web sites that advertise updates and then don't do any updates? I have read a lot of reviews of sites where updates just don't happen. I also know that in some shemale and straight adult sites, the webmasters, knowing that many people stay no more than 90 days, continually rotate the same content over and over making it appear that updates are happening when in fact they are just giving people the same stuff. I read about some of this on gofuckyourself (GFY.com) and found out a bit more talking to some webmasters of the pump them and dump them web sites based upon just traffic and not member retention.

I think there are two sides to everything. Obviously there are people who rip us off as webmasters, but there are also webmasters who rip off the public. We could get into the dramatic airbrushing of models on boxcovers so much that they don't even look like the same person, but that is more acceptable and standard in any segment of the entertainment industry.

I also have bought more copies of Master of Puppets than I care to admit. Two were cassettes damaged through wear and tear from being in the car, another was a CD stolen out of a car, another in a box lost during a move... Now wouldn't I be entitled to downloading those same songs for free since I already paid for them 4 or 5 times? I personally think so. Could I prove that I owned them, no. Also, how many times have people bought a CD and found that two songs on the record were good. Buy either of Ricky Martin's CD's and you will know what I mean. When musicians put out such crap as filler because they have a hit single, they own part of the pirating problem.

I think the majority of consumers know good product when they see/hear it and are more likely to not rip off people who make the better product. For example I own a DVD box set of Raiders of the Lost Ark series, Star Trek series, and Lord of the Rings series and many more. Alternatively, I'd be more likely to rent and rip a copy of UltraViolet. How do people feel about having to buy Star Wars episodes 4-6 on VHS, VHS with enhanced sound, VHS with revised footage, on DVD, on digitally remastered DVD, on HD DVD, etc... Is that fair to the consumer? Maybe, maybe not.

Personally, I think the best of both worlds is lifetime licenses documented on somebody's server somewhere. I think Itunes probably does this. I believe Napster now does this. No lost or stolen CD's or DVD's. You buy it, you own it. They need to keep the prices reasonable as well. The media companies are more likely to realize they now have a monopoly and then raise prices to $30 a copy. A downside is I am not sure that someone wants ButtBanging Shemale Sex Sluts on their owned movie history for the rest of their lives. I have no idea how to do this with website content and I don't think it fits into the same mold.

I'm also pissed off because when I was first starting out I bought several hundred dollars of content from a company and they closed shop after the big 2257 scare. I had to remove all of that legal, licensed content from my server. That was annoying. A personal thank you to the content producers out of Florida who did that.

Lastly, I don't think it is ever ethical to burn or rip copies of someone's product and then resell them. That is just completely wrong.

[GroobySteven]

I think what your talking about Vicki is more like people doing bad business through mis-advertising and failure to live up to promises, if a customer bought a mis-leading website and failed to get the updates or the content that was promised on the advertising pages then they should make a complaint to that website and if necessary take further action by demanding a refund or chargeback.
I'm happy for a paying member to download everything on one of the websites and keep it forever, in their harddrive or disk to enjoy many times - I'm not happy for that paying members to post it where it makes money for other people or detriments my business - or sells that content as if they owned it.

Customers of adult sites should complain to the websites and the billing companies if they're not getting what is in the previews and advertisements.
seanchai

[Vicki Richter]

Actually, you're wrong about that, Superman. Many of us know who you are and what your agenda here is. And that you've used your company's computer to log on to porn sites. And the name of the that company. And that you have no problem hacking into sites and abusing strangers' privacy who've done nothing to you. And that you're conflicted, self-righteous and hypocritical.

First, while Superman did hack my forums, he also told me how to fix the problem. If he wanted to, he could have done much worse. I don't approve of what he did, and he was banned from my forums because of it. He's already been punished.

I am vehemently opposed to anyone using anyone's personal information just because they have contrary opinions. That is the worst threat anyone could make Suckseed. If someone has personality flaws that you don't agree with - tell them you don't agree and why.

I'm a big girl, I can be judged by people and I can handle it. People don't know Superman's real story. It is deep and touching. While I don't agree with the things he says very often, I do understand him.

[suckseed]

He and I have discussed it privately, Vicki. McManaman understands, or should, that no one is threatening him with anything. My apologies - I don't pretend to speak for you. As I've said many times, I hate bullying behavior.

[hondarobot]

Honestly, I wouldn't want my son or daughter to be a performer - but I wouldn't want them to do many other jobs either, I'd be more upset if they joined the military, especially now as I feel they're getting more abused than most employees by their bosses.
However, it's not for me to judge the people who do choose to go into military life or do CHOOSE to go into adult work. It's their choice. What made you so righteous that you can judge what they do for their living.
I've never exploited anybody who has worked for my company, I understand it can go on in this industry but in what industry is there no exploitation. Just because the industry doens't fit into your morals it doesn't mean it's exploitative.

I ask again, you keep failing to answer and just come up with more misguided barbs - why are you on this site and why do you feel it's ok to insult pretty much everybody in here with your self-righteous attitude?

seanchai

Only 2 persons know why i'm here, both 2 transsexuals. The first one "introduced" me
into this "lovely" world, and the second one got it through my "confession". I thought
she could help me to figure out some stuffs, but it went @ wrong hole. And it was mainly
my mistake.

Why do you consider my posts being misguided barbs? It's perfectly OK having freedom to choose
adult profession, but once again: I do not really think that some (actually many) people choose
to work for adult industry, but they are rather forced to do so. If they are not forced, then
they have some serious issues inside themselfs. And some other people use it. But you might be right, being in that industry and
not the millitary one makes them not killing other people.

Also, i'll tell you this: I know some people whose daughter voluntarily went into that "industry".
Believe me or not, they behave like they lost something invaluable. It's literarely impossible
to mention their daughter's name in front of them, because if you do so, you'll hit them hard,
you kind of remind them that there is a hell on the earth to be aware of. So the daughter enjoys
her own life, but at the same time she destroyed at least 2 other lives.

Actually, you're wrong about that, Superman. Many of us know who you are and what your agenda here is. And that you've used your company's computer to log on to porn sites. And the name of the that company. And that you have no problem hacking into sites and abusing strangers' privacy who've done nothing to you. And that you're conflicted, self-righteous and hypocritical.

What the hell? McManaman is actually Superman from the VR forums? I remember that guy. I honestly dont know why someone who has so many issues with porn would be active on any porn related forums.

I honestly have nothing against the guy, but come on. . . if you didn't like porn on some level you wouldn't want anything to do with it.

It's like a witch hunter or something. "We need to flog the evil out of this girl. Strip her and I'll begin the flogging! On that beautiful naked ass. . . I dont want to do it, I feel I owe it to her."

That's just dumb.

[michneo]

Sometimes i pay MOST TIMES i pirate Oh well lotta ppls pay cuz if they didn't there wouldn't be any money to make pornos

[blahblahblah]

Actually, you're wrong about that, Superman. Many of us know who you are and what your agenda here is. And that you've used your company's computer to log on to porn sites. And the name of the that company. And that you have no problem hacking into sites and abusing strangers' privacy who've done nothing to you. And that you're conflicted, self-righteous and hypocritical.

First, while Superman did hack my forums, he also told me how to fix the problem. If he wanted to, he could have done much worse. I don't approve of what he did, and he was banned from my forums because of it. He's already been punished.

I am vehemently opposed to anyone using anyone's personal information just because they have contrary opinions. That is the worst threat anyone could make Suckseed. If someone has personality flaws that you don't agree with - tell them you don't agree and why.

I'm a big girl, I can be judged by people and I can handle it. People don't know Superman's real story. It is deep and touching. While I don't agree with the things he says very often, I do understand him.

Thanks, Vicki. I'll always be your cyber friend, no matter what.
People are probably confused since i see you from totally another perspective
compared to the rest of this crowd. That's because our cyber-relationship
is simple. Constructive questions and answers directed to each other.
We kind of learn from each other. Nothing more and nothing less then that.

P.S.

The privacy: I'm always using http proxies in this context, so don't be
supprised if you figure out that was John Cleese who was using some
pure swedish proxy (with good performance) in order to hack the White House
intranet just to impress Queen Elisabeth, or something like that,
after finishing your detective research

[blahblahblah]

[quote/]

What the hell? McManaman is actually Superman from the VR forums? I remember that guy. I honestly dont know why someone who has so many issues with porn would be active on any porn related forums.

I honestly have nothing against the guy, but come on. . . if you didn't like porn on some level you wouldn't want anything to do with it.

It's like a witch hunter or something. "We need to flog the evil out of this girl. Strip her and I'll begin the flogging! On that beautiful naked ass. . . I dont want to do it, I feel I owe it to her."

That's just dumb.

You silly boy!

This forum is not only porn related. You can find some very good
and deep stuff inside it, and that's the point. In fact, some
great personalities here tend to leave this forum and consider it
boring when no other contents but pure porn related things are
presented here. For example, it was long time ago i read Felicia
Katt's posts here, and they are always worth reading. But not only she,
many other great girls show tendency to leave. And then we have
you, me and senchy left here. That's sad and pathetic..

[blahblahblah]

hmm... it seems like the forum has some performance related issues. Sometimes, my posts are submitted twice, i dont know why.. so i re-edited this double post..

[thmack]

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