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    The New York Times reports on some of the first actions of the Trump Presidency -items deleted from the White House website:

    The Department of Labor’s report on lesbians, bisexuals, gays and transgender people in the workplace? Gone.

    The White House’s exposition on the threat of climate change and efforts to combat it? Gone.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/20/u...bc-region&_r=0



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    concentration camps, work camps, and slavery camps for anybody who isn't white, male, or middle-aged (or elderly like he is...) oh, and he'll get a select number of women to grab by the pussy. about 500 from each state, who are high in the looks scale, will be rounded up.

    i'd love it if he makes an executive order to allow Muslims to stay and shut those SJW fuckers up...lol. I'm not American, so it doesn't really bother me.


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    Made me laugh when he said he's going to make America "safe" & he's going to eradicate terrorism! Good luck chum!


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    Quote Originally Posted by holzz View Post
    concentration camps, work camps, and slavery camps for anybody who isn't white, male, or middle-aged (or elderly like he is...) oh, and he'll get a select number of women to grab by the pussy. about 500 from each state, who are high in the looks scale, will be rounded up.

    i'd love it if he makes an executive order to allow Muslims to stay and shut those SJW fuckers up...lol. I'm not American, so it doesn't really bother me.
    Like it or not, and whether for good or bad, Trump's Presidency will have a global impact. Climate change, relations with the UK, Russia and China, what happens to NATO, are just a few examples that could have an effect, direct or indirect, on you. No matter what nationality, it should "bother" everyone...


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    His tiny hands be reachin' across the ocean.


    "...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.

    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    The New York Times reports on some of the first actions of the Trump Presidency -items deleted from the White House website:

    The Department of Labor’s report on lesbians, bisexuals, gays and transgender people in the workplace? Gone.

    The White House’s exposition on the threat of climate change and efforts to combat it? Gone.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/20/u...bc-region&_r=0
    To me, this clearly illustrates how the trump administration functions:

    The LBGT page is likely the work of virulent anti-gay vp pence who, along with preibus, are charged with the day to day running of the government...I seriously doubt trump was even aware of that page from the labor dept

    On the other hand, there's a high probability the white house page on climate was the work of trump


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    I wonder how many people noticed this press release that accompanied the second Executive Order President Trump signed on the 23rd of January 2017 (full text of the EO ca be accessed in the link below), the portion I have put in bold.

    At a time when the anxiety over the future of pensions is growing in the UK -it has been part of the labour disputes on the London Underground and the Southern Rail franchise- it seems that pensions could become a battleground in the USA as the Trump administration takes the axe to Federal jobs -and note I am not arguing one way or the other about the size of the Federal payroll.

    Presidential Memorandum Regarding the Hiring Freeze

    President Trump issued a memorandum which imposes a hiring freeze on the executive branch to counter the dramatic expansion of the federal workforce in recent years and the costs attendant to that expansion.
    The Federal workforce has expanded significantly during the last two Administrations, from approximately 1.8 million Federal civilian employees during the Clinton Administration to approximately 2.1 million as of 2016 (an approximately 17 percent increase). Meanwhile, Federal employee health and retirement benefits continue to be based on antiquated assumptions and require a level of generosity long since abandoned by most of the private sector. Those costs are unsustainable for the Federal government, just as they are proving to be unsustainable for state and local governments with similar health and retirement packages.
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...oranda-dealing


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    The reality, Donald Trump - Week one.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38768272

    Day One: American carnage

    In retrospect, this was the calmest day of them all.

    With his hand resting on two Bibles - one his own, the other used by Abraham Lincoln in 1861 - Donald John Trump was sworn in as US President, the first man to hold the office without either political or military experience.

    Earlier in the day, Barack Obama was captured through a window leaving a letter for his successor in the top drawer of the Oval Office desk. What did it say? We don't know and President Trump won't say.

    Addressing the nation at the ceremony, President Trump spoke in fairly bleak terms of rusted-out factories, poverty-stricken families and crime-blighted cities, vowing to end "this American carnage"

    "This was not a message to the American people as a whole - many of whom likely feel the past resident of the White House, Barack Obama, reflected their beliefs and their diversity," our correspondent Anthony Zurcher wrote.

    "This was a speech for the angry, the frustrated, the American voters who turned out in places like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Florida and Ohio to shake their fist at the status quo and take a chance on a man who was unlike any presidential politician who came before him."

    As the Obamas left for a holiday in Palm Springs, a new era in politics began. Take a deep breath now...

    Day Two: My crowd's bigger than your crowd

    While many protests were held on inauguration day around the world, including one in Washington that spiralled into violence, Saturday 21 January saw a remarkable global expression of opposition to the Trump administration and its perceived world view.

    Millions of people turned out to demonstrate at "Women's Marches" in cities around the world to make their voice heard on women's reproductive rights, gender, sexual and racial equality.

    But as protests continued, President Trump gave an extraordinary press conference at the CIA headquarters, telling staff that the media had fabricated a "feud" between him and the intelligence agencies, despite previously tweeting they were acting as if the US was Nazi Germany.

    Standing in front of the CIA's hallowed memorial wall, which honours agency employees who died in service, he also complained about reporting of the crowd size at his inauguration, and unflattering comparisons to the turn-out at Barack Obama's own ceremony in 2009.

    What followed saw "post-truth" politics kick into high gear.

    Trump dispatched his combative new press secretary Sean Spicer to lambast the media in a televised briefing.

    He said no-one had any crowd estimates from the inauguration before then giving his own crowd numbers - saying that the space holding 720,000 people was full when the oath was taken. This, he claimed, "was the largest audience to witness an inauguration, period. Both in person and around the globe".

    He also falsely said the number of people taking Washington's subway system on the day had been higher than during Barack Obama's second inauguration in 2013.

    Day Three: A fact is no longer a fact. And that's a fact.


    In a television interview on Sunday, Trump counsellor Kellyanne Conway defended Spicer's inaccurate claims, thereby introducing the world to the term "alternative facts", which is how she described what he said.

    "Alternative facts are not facts. They are falsehoods," NBC presenter Chuck Todd replied.

    The internet, of course, delivered an outpouring of #Spicerfacts.

    Meanwhile, the president himself was praising Barack Obama at a ceremony to swear in senior members of his team.

    While there, he said he would soon begin negotiating the North American Free Trade Agreement (Nafta) with his Canadian and Mexican counterparts.

    "Mexico has been terrific. The president has been really very amazing," he said.

    More on Mexico was to come later in the week from the president. (Hint: They stopped being so amazing.)

    Trump also finally responded to Saturday's mass protests against him.

    Day Four: It's business time


    The first working day of the Trump administration kicked off with meeting between the president and business leaders, during which Trump announced his aim to cut regulations for US-based businesses by 75%.

    A clutch of executive actions followed. He pulled the US out of the 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal, a key part of Obama's efforts to engage and divert attention to the Asia-Pacific. Australia swiftly said it wanted to try to keep the deal alive with a so-called 'TPP 12 minus one'.

    Trump also banned federal money going to international groups which perform or provide information on abortions.

    The US president's order shows he "wants to stand up for all Americans, including the unborn," his press secretary Sean Spicer said.

    "As long as you live you'll never see a photograph of 7 women signing legislation about what men can do with their reproductive organs," Guardian social editor Martin Belam said on Twitter. More than 260,000 people re-tweeted his thoughts.

    If the day wasn't busy enough in Trump news, a group of US ethics lawyers had filed a lawsuit against the president, alleging he is violating a constitutional ban on accepting payments from foreign governments through his hotels.

    Mr Trump described the lawsuit as "totally without merit".

    Oh, and he implemented a hiring freeze on some federal government workers.

    Day Five: Mmmm, oil


    The barrage of executive actions continued on Tuesday, with two orders signed to back controversial oil pipelines - Keystone XL and the Dakota Access project - if American steel is used.

    The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, whose land abuts the proposed route of the Dakota Access pipeline, called Mr Trump's decision a violation of "law and tribal treaties".

    Environmentalists said Trump was proving as dangerous to the climate as they had feared. Oil industry groups applauded.

    Separately, Sean Spicer sparred again with reporters, this time over Trump's claims that millions of illegal voters cast ballots in the election despite no evidence suggesting so.

    It was also announced the FBI Director James Comey would stay in his position under the Trump administration.

    Mr Comey, of course, is blamed by many Democrats for Hillary Clinton's election loss. He announced the FBI was looking into new Clinton emails just days before the election, before soon after saying it found no evidence of criminality.

    Just a reminder: it's only Tuesday.

    Day Six: When torture became OK

    A visit to the Department of Homeland Security saw two more executive orders signed. One calls for "a large physical barrier" - the infamous wall - to be build on the US's southern border.

    The other toughened policy on illegal immigrants -"aliens" - including by withholding funding from so-called "sanctuary cities" that protect undocumented immigrants within their boundaries.

    In an interview with ABC News that aired on Wednesday evening, Trump said he believed waterboarding works, stating "we have to fight fire with fire".

    But Mr Trump also said he would consult Defence Secretary James Mattis and CIA director Mike Pompeo - both of whom have indicated they oppose the method - and "if they don't want to do it that's fine".

    A draft executive order - that the Trump team disavows as a White House document - also surfaces. It calls for a review into whether the "black sites" programme should be reintroduced and would scrap Mr Obama's move to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.

    Another draft executive order emerges suggesting Trump would suspend the Syrian refugee programme and stop issuing visas from several Muslim-majority countries deemed to pose a threat to the security of the US.

    White House officials declined to comment on the document.

    But hey, it's almost the weekend.

    And on the seventh day, Donald annoyed Mexico

    Plans for an upcoming meeting between Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto and Donald Trump fall apart after the US President insists Mexico must pay for the border wall.

    Mr Pena Nieto cancels the meeting after Trump says it would better not be held if Mexico refuses to cough up.

    The White House then suggests a new 20 percent tax on Mexican imports could fund the barrier, but this is rubbished by Mexico's Foreign Minister Luis Videgaray, who says that such a move would only shift the costs burden onto US consumers.

    While the US-Mexico drama unfolds, UK Prime Minister Theresa May arrives in the US, joking that "opposites attract" and saying she wants to "renew the special relationship" between the UK and America.

    Separately, former US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright vows to register as Muslim if Trump creates a register of Muslim-Americans.

    Day Eight: The British are coming!


    On Friday morning, CNN hosted Gregg Phillips, a conspiracy theorist who has repeatedly said millions of people vote illegally in the US, and has just as often declined to provide any evidence whatsoever for that claim.

    Forty-two minutes later, Trump tweeted his support for Phillips.

    Thousands of people marched on Washington to protest against abortion, and Vice-President Pence became the first sitting VP to address the demonstrators, saying, "Life is winning in America."

    Amid rumours that he would lift sanctions on Russia, Mr Trump hosted his first international leader when British Prime Minister Theresa May came to visit. Mr Trump joked about revoking the "special relationship" after the BBC asked him a pointed question about his stance on abortion, torture and other hot topics.

    Just before close of business, he attended the swearing-in ceremony for James Mattis as Secretary of Defense. There, he announced two new executive orders: one ordering "new ships, planes, resources and tools" to build up the military, and one creating new vetting measures to combat radical Islamic terrorism.

    "We only want to admit into America those who support our country and love deeply our people," he said.


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    Here is an interview with the lead Democrat in the House Oversight Committee. He makes some very good points and I think it's worth a read about the nature of the investigations underway and some which might be pending.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...-trump/516741/

    Schiff: You have to remember the context of this. The Russians had just interfered in the American elections in a way to help elect Donald Trump. The president of the United States, Barack Obama, then sanctions Russia for that interference. And then Trump’s team, through Flynn, reaches out to the Russian ambassador and potentially says, “Don’t worry about those sanctions. We’re going to take care of business. We’re not going to bite the hand that fed us.” That’s something that needs to be investigated. That’s hugely consequential.

    And the broader context is: We’re in a competition with Russia right now. They are championing autocracy all over the world. We are promoting democracy. It is not communism vs. capitalism anymore, but it is authoritarianism vs. representative government. And it’s the Russian goal to take down Western liberal democracy. In that hugely consequential struggle, if we’re being undermined by our own administration—by General Flynn having secret talks with the Russians about undermining then-President Obama’s policy—that ought to matter to every American.


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    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...secutor-235387

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.02c87dadec35

    I'm putting this here because it's not really a policy thing and I am interested in the outcome of the Russia investigations. .

    This is big news or it could be big news because a Republican congressman is saying that a special prosecutor should be appointed to investigate the contacts between Trump campaign and Russia. A special prosecutor is someone who is independent of the president and would have a mandate to get all of the facts. It's significant because so far Republicans have not been interested in pursuing this issue.



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