Donald Trump Presidency-Day One

[broncofan]

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/sta...19880025284608

Mueller's office disputes the report of this which originated with buzzfeed. Make of this what you will. They are not clarifying the record, which makes sense since they've not been releasing their findings through the press, but it remains to be seen what was inaccurate.

[Stavros]

Amidst this reportage I read that what he really wanted was to create a broadcast network to rival CNN to be called TNN, and that this continues to exercise his imagination to the extent that he will not run in 2020 but revert to the broadcast project, assuming he needs other financial backers for it. I also read I think in the NYT that of his core base, men without college degrees, they are so disillusioned with his incompetence they will not vote at all in 2020. Whether this is good news for the Democrats depends on whether or no they choose Biden or Harris.
Though one must also ponder the very real prospect of this lame excuse for a man spending the rest of his life in prison.

[filghy2]

Who would want to finance Trump given his history of losing his financier's money? Would the Russians want to keep financing him once he is out of power?

I doubt very much that Trump will quit voluntarily because he knows he would be seen as a loser and that's something he can't bear. His instinct will always be to double down and hope that his usual tactics will succeed. The only way he will go quietly is if he thinks it is the only way to avoid prison. One suggestion is that he might resign just before the end of his term in return for a pardon from Pence. But that would require a large section of the Republican Party to turn against him and we're a long way from that.

[Stavros]

I agree on the financials though there are some who would buy into it. He thinks he has a winner's genes, believing that genes are destiny. He will pobabaly not run in 2020 to avoid losing, and if he resigns it will be in triumph, and 'write' a book proclaiming himself the undefeated, and the greatest and the most popular President of all time.

[buttslinger]

In my mind...…..no way in Hell will Trump be walking around in 2020, much less running for President.
So far Mueller has busted 15 moons around Planet Putin, and 8 moons of Planet Trump...Hmmm, not to hard to see where this is going. Trump will be the easy part, now that Nancy has teeth, we're seeing that Trump and his circle of ass-ociates are like extras on The Sopranos, cut-rate punks. PUTIN, on the other hand, is the Devil. It will be interesting to see what happens, and how much of it we will never know because it's classified.

[bluesoul]

In my mind...…..

you can pretty much say this is all you said. and all anyone else says here. too bad it doesn't mean shit.

[buttslinger]

you can pretty much say this is all you said. and all anyone else says here. too bad it doesn't mean shit.

I agree that some people can look at a dress and see yellow, and some people see blue,
some people hear "laurel' some people hear "yanny",
and I agree that Democrats see a Catholic School punk in DC for a phony PRO-LIFE Day,
and Republicans see another illegal alien browning up the Country,
but we'll see who Trump is lying to when Mueller finishes his report,
lots of Republicans will have THE SHIT on their faces.

[trish]

I’m agreeing, at least in part, with buttslinger on this one.

It is worth noting that even in the case of the yellow/blue dress, we do know what the person means who says it’s yellow, we just may not agree. So yes, what people say here has meaning.

You know, there’s a reason nearly everybody on social media is familiar with the yellow/blue dress or the laurel/yanny auditory illusion. They’re memorable because they’re interesting; and they’re interesting because they’re rare and unusual. Most of the time, even when we disagree with one another, there’s a discernible truth independent of the biases and sensory capacities of the observer.

Most human beings have the capacity to interpret a shit-eating grin when they see it in context. Most people know Trump was lying when he claimed his inaugural crowd “went all the way back to the Washington Monument” and “looked like a million-and-a-half people.” Yet apparently quite a few human beings also know how to obfuscate the obvious. Worse, there are more who are willing to believe (or at least repeat) any obfuscation, no matter how clearly contrived, as long as it supports their own preconceptions.

Is there a shit storming coming? Should Trump supporters be advised to pull their MAGA visors down over their eyes and turn off all the fans? I don’t know. I’m not even sure I want that sort of shit-storm.

Rather than an impeachment that leaves Pence in power, I'd like the Right to see Trump for what he is, a con man, and a media-constructed cartoon. (Unfortunately, they already know he’s an irreligious blowhard, a liar, an ignoramus, a narcissist, a bigot, a racist and a misogynistic white supremacist - but they’re all okay with that). Rather than be impeached, I’d like to see his base dissolve. I want Trump to lose, yes - but I’d rather the electorate escort him to the door, not Congress. Impeachment will only deepen the gaping divide between Americans. More than anything, we need to clean that wound and sew it up, not throw more salt in it.

[bluesoul]

I agree that some people can look at a dress and see yellow, and some people see blue,
some people hear "laurel' some people hear "yanny",
and I agree that Democrats see a Catholic School punk in DC for a phony PRO-LIFE Day,
and Republicans see another illegal alien browning up the Country,
but we'll see who Trump is lying to when Mueller finishes his report,
lots of Republicans will have THE SHIT on their faces.

i agree about your dress color analogy- my point is that there is selective ignorance on both sides. the right chooses to focus only on what they wish to see and they ignore what doesn't support their argument. the left kinda does the same thing: so in the end, it's basically who is worse

i'm personally not sure when so many conservatives forgot that trump promised that mexico would build the wall, but sometime between then and now- they've taken it upon themselves to "try" and fund it's construction themselves.

https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

why they wouldn't ask the billionaire in charge (and his family, their friends and their families) to pony up some extra millions is beyond me- but the narrative has now changed. it's the left's fault for not allow trump to work his "art of the deal" with mexico. which is why that gofundme still needed his blessing.

we don't just choose the colors we wish to see- but we make sure those colors are the exact opposite of our opponents- because this assures us, we're seeing the correct colors

at least, that's how the right knows roger stone is innocent.

http://stonedefensefund.com/

btw: would be curious your thoughts on "fake" philosopher and apparent right wing genius jordan peterson. he really salts my meat, but he's very entertaining to watch (for like 15min). he has this merry go-round way of answering even the simplest question- which really excites his fanbase into a frenzy because they hear very sound and reasonable arguments that support their beliefs.

of course pete is doing nothing more but selling snake oil- but maybe my eyes just don't register whatever color coded snake oil he's selling

[buttslinger]

Never heard of Jordan Peterson, but I'm sure if I listened to him for ten years I'd agree with him wholeheartedly. That's the problem. I agree that both parties are not perfect, but your choice for President shouldn't hinge on whether he likes Rock music or Country music. Congress has a approval rating of 13%....that's not my opinion, that's a fact (give or take)
None of my complaints matter if I don't have a solution, and I hope the solution isn't that one day we all wake up one day and find every thing we use is made in China.

After we hang Trump and humiliate Putin, we will still be left with the Trump Army. The rules are different in the Country or in the City. There are words and there is THE WORD. You don't have to be nice AND smart but you have to be one or the other. CNN and MSNBC are head and shoulders above Fox as NEWS organizations. Obama is head and shoulders above Bush Jr and Trump. If you don't agree with that, you are wrong.

Today I am going to buy a SuperBigGulp Coke and some kind of hideous junk food, it will be the only time of the day I'm happy. I've got a message for everyone here: when you get old your brain and body goes straight to Hell. The good news is also the bad news, every American owns a say in the Future of the United States. Alone, my voice is worth one divided by 300 million. As a Democrat, my voice is worth 153 million times that. I give Obama a 100% rating because he was right 86% of the time. I give Trump a ZERO because he is right 24% of the time. And, oh yeah, he's a goddam traitor.