Donald Trump Presidency-Day One

[Stavros]

Meanwhile, here's the view from the lunatic fringe

And yet, while
Right-Wing media hedgehog Alex Jones is at it again. After the latest slew of revelations in the Russia investigation that seems to be closing in on the Trump administration, Jones said in a recent edition of his show that is all conspiracy created to make special investigator Robert Mueller, wait for it, King of America.
-the question is if Ivanka Kushner is the Princess Royal, as she is known around the White House, who is the King? Not Robert Mueller.

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Question is, where is Michael Flynn in all this?

This article suggests that it's pretty clear that Flynn failed to register as a foreign lobbyist and that he lied to the FBI, two of the things the others were charged with. The possible reasons he hasn't been charged yet are that they are still investigating other possible charges or that they are making a plea bargain. https://www.salon.com/2017/11/01/mue...oulos-why-now/

[broncofan]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...e-says-n817001

Once again, it does not lead to a substantive charge related to the conspiracy that interests everyone but points to the most flagrant instance of perjury yet. Look at Lindsey Graham's question and then at Session's denial, which again is kind of non-responsive to the question, but still willful suppression of incriminating information about others.

He's asked whether anyone in the campaign talked about meeting Russians and his answer was effectively no when the reality is yes and he knew it was yes. It should not matter that he shifted the premise of the question. He does not get to answer made up questions only the ones put to him. Definite perjury.

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It looks like the next shoe may be about to drop. https://www.vox.com/world/2017/11/5/...ia-charges-nbc

Meanwhile, the latest Paradise Papers leaks reveal that Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has business links to Putin cronies. It's amazing who many links the Trump Administration has to a country that their own party has generally viewed as USA's strategic rival.

[broncofan]

It looks like the next shoe may be about to drop. https://www.vox.com/world/2017/11/5/...ia-charges-nbc

Meanwhile, the latest Paradise Papers leaks reveal that Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has business links to Putin cronies. It's amazing who many links the Trump Administration has to a country that their own party has generally viewed as USA's strategic rival.

Often in ways that were deeply counterproductive and paranoid. Now they find themselves justifying corruption, espionage, interference with our democratic processes. Just to watch the laudatory things that asshole Sean Hannity says about Julian Assange is an amazing reversal. It really is the twilight zone here.

[Stavros]

It all goes back to the 1990s when Russia was like the US in the late 19th century. It was called the 'Sale of the Century' and at least one book of that name explained how the absence of finance laws, and the patronage of Boris Yeltsin made some people rich overnight, quite a few of them Communist Party apparatchiks who were in secondary positions of influence they were able to use to elbow less savvy superiors aside to commandeer the country's assets. And the money went one way, and then another, and not all of the Americans who forged links were shall we say, 'quality people'. Who knows how much Russian money has flowed through London on its way to Florida and New York, and how much of it was legal, a tax dodge, or the proceeds of organized crime? Putin was there, lurking in Yeltsin's shadow, and he didn't like what he saw, even as he then or later took his cut. Foreign firms that purchased handsome assets in oil and gas today have smaller portions of the pie; as for the 'entrepreneurs' and their 'comms people', my guess is Putin has a small book which he keeps in his breast pocket.

How does that song go, 'there's a man goin' round takin' names...'

Or is it, you ain't seen nothing' yet!

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It's amazing to see Trump fawning over Xi Jinping in China. After previously accusing the Chinese of 'raping' the US economy via the trade deficit, he now says that they are not to blame. https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...trong-man-game The guy clearly has a serious strong leader fetish. The Chinese also clearly understand that the best way to handle Trump is to flatter him.

This is not to say that starting a trade war with China would have been a good idea, but the idea that all will be great if we just have a few autocrats making deals is equally misguided. When in history has that ended well?

Trump is correct that the trade deficit is mainly the US's responsibility, but not for the reasons he thinks. The US has a trade deficit because it does not save enough, so it has to borrow from abroad. The joke is that if tax reform does what is claimed, and attracts more foreign investment, then the trade deficit will blow out further.

[buttslinger]

Just like Bush II was not the president that used to be a businessman, he was the businessman who just happened to be president.....Trump is not the president who used to be a rich clown, he's the clown that just happens to be president.
I can only pray there is a huge bulletin board in Bob Mueller's office with all the pictures of Trump, the kids, Manafort, Flynn, Sessions, etc....placed in order with strings connecting them all just like in the movies.
The USA survived the Civil War, two World Wars, I guess we'll survive this.
But I'm not sure we'll be older and wiser, I think we'll just be older.
Goddam shame is what it is. Unbelievable.

[broncofan]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ileaks/545738/

Wikileaks repeatedly emailed Trump Jr. during campaign and told him how and when to promote their site. They corresponded back and forth. Also asked him to provide them with any incriminating info about his father that he already knew would come up because it would make them seem impartial and make their reveals against Hillary that much more credible.

Assange also asked Trump to contest the election and once it was over to make him ambassador to Australia.

[broncofan]

Should have said Australia's ambassador to U.S. But just read the article. This one's definitely worth it...don't know what it means in the end, but in another time this would be very incriminating.