Re: The Landscape Of TS Escort Fees & Your Thoughts On
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Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
The other factor is Craigslist. Which in my opinion is ruining the online escorting business. It's street prostitution brought online. The Internet was a place where the higher priced call girls where and the more upscale clients. Craigslist to me is sad. I see girls with rates of $50, $60, $80 which is just unbelievable to me. I recall when I first came to NYC the going rate was $150 for EVERYONE. Unless of course on the street. And the sad part is that GG usually still charge more than TS on Craigs! I just can't believe how much prices have dropped on Craigs- and the only assumption I can make is that street girls have moved indoors are on Craigslist now.
I agree with your facts, but I will point out that CL is "the great equalizer". There are a number of both TS and GG escorts who go on CL for rates lower than they advertise on LC, so it's not just the street girls. For the street girls, it's the opposite: almost all of them charge more on CL than where they usually get their tricks. the guys trolling CL generally have a very narrow price band, so the lower end gets raised up and the higher end gets knocked down. But if the higher end girls didn't get desperate and go on CL for discounted prices, there would be no "ability" of CL to "ruin" anything: everyone would know all you could get on CL was low level street or street-like girls. But when you can go on CL and get THE VERY SAME GIRLS who are advertising on Eros, etc. for a lot less, who is it that is ruining things? I think the blame lies more on the girls who are doing the low level trolling than CL or the low level girls: they are just doing "what comes naturally".
And that's really always been the case in this business: all girls look at other girls and blame them for guys wanting discounts. But the guys who want discounts always wanted them. When there wasn't a CL, they just went to 14th St 9or wherever). And a lot of girls who say in public that they discount girls are "ruining the business" are at the same time doing the same thing. there are tons of girls who's "rate" is $300 or $400 or whatever that turn some tricks for a lot less. Half the girls on the the Grooby sites have been had for $100 at some time or another. There are girls who come up to me at.... wherever... and want me to trick with them who I really have to bite my tongue to avoid blurting out "I liked you better when you were charging $30 on 14th Street" (but I don't).
Re: The Landscape Of TS Escort Fees & Your Thoughts On
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Originally Posted by Danny partridge
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Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
The other factor is Craigslist. Which in my opinion is ruining the online escorting business. It's street prostitution brought online. The Internet was a place where the higher priced call girls where and the more upscale clients. Craigslist to me is sad. I see girls with rates of $50, $60, $80 which is just unbelievable to me. I recall when I first came to NYC the going rate was $150 for EVERYONE. Unless of course on the street. And the sad part is that GG usually still charge more than TS on Craigs! I just can't believe how much prices have dropped on Craigs- and the only assumption I can make is that street girls have moved indoors are on Craigslist now.
I agree with your facts, but I will point out that Ll is "the great equalizer". There are a number of both TS and GG escorts who go on CL for rates lower than they advertise on LC, so it's not just the street girls. For the street girls, it's the opposite: almost all of them charge more on CL than where they usually get their tricks. the guys trolling CL generally have a very narrow price band, so the lower end gets raised up and the higher end gets knocked down. But if the higher end girls didn't get desperate and go on CL for discounted prices, there would be no "ability" of CL to "ruin" anything: everyone would know all you could get on CL was low level street or street-like girls. But when you can go on CL and get THE VERY SAME GIRLS who are advertising on Eros, etc. for a lot less, who is it that is ruining things? I think the blame lies more on the girls who are doing the low level trolling than CL or the low level girls: they are just doing "what comes naturally".
And that's really always been the case in this business: all girls look at other girls and blame them for guys wanting discounts. But the guys who want discounts always wanted them. When there wasn't a CL, they just went to 14th St 9or wherever). And a lot of girls who say in public that they discount girls are "ruining the business" are at the same time doing the same thing. there are tons of girls who's "rate" is $300 or $400 or whatever that turn some tricks for a lot less. Half the girls on the the Grooby sites have been had for $100 at some time or another. There are girls who come up to me at.... wherever... and want me to trick with them who I
really have to bite my tongue to avoid blurting out "I liked you better when you were charging $30 on 14th Street" (but I don't).
That is true. I've never understoof why girld hsve different prices for different venues. I myself have never and will never do CL. Why? It's a bunch of time wasters, cheap skates, rude calls, and just crazy people.
I think these girls dont realize that customers look at ALL the sites and
the papers. Though I am not sure really high end guys are looking on CL.
Re: The Landscape Of TS Escort Fees & Your Thoughts On
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Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
That is true. I've never understoof why girld hsve different prices for different venues. I myself have never and will never do CL. Why? It's a bunch of time wasters, cheap skates, rude calls, and just crazy people.
I think these girls dont realize that customers look at ALL the sites and
the papers. Though I am not sure really high end guys are looking on CL.
There's a lot of girls who use CL as "fill in". I know a bunch of my advertisers who have told me they make most of their money off of my site still use CL when they have a slow day because it's "instant gratification" (on both sides). Of course, they always complain about the guys from CL being exactly what you said (time wasters, cheap skates, rude calls, and just crazy people), but it's free and when you need your schedule filled to pay the bills........ you do what you have to.
In the old days, girls would go to certain hotel lobby bars that were known for having working girls (The Oak Bar at The Plaza was famous for it). Now they go on CL.
As far as higher end guys on CL, I have a close friend who sees at least one girl a week and sometimes three or four that he pays between $400 and $800 for (not an hour; for a "date" which lasts a minimum of 2 hours). I also know of guys who book up to $3,000 dates off of CL. But most of these guys are there trolling for "non pro" girls. Of course, even $3,000 isn't really high end. Which is why I chuckle when I hear guys talk about "no girl should charge more than $250" (or whatever). I think everyone here would be shocked if they knew the number of girls out there commanding (and getting) $10,000 a night (or MUCH more).