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Money quote from Kelly -Quote:
Christian for being 6'5 etc is the biggest baby I know for a full grown man.
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Money quote from Kelly -Quote:
Christian for being 6'5 etc is the biggest baby I know for a full grown man.
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I'm going to save that newspaper, along with Obama getting elected and September 12th.
Aha....
PORN STAR FIGHT!!!!
cock fight!
lol
Looks like Kelly is playin a nice card......
The Publicity card.
:wink:
ive been saying the guy is a pile of shit for years
glad other ppl see it too
not cute at all and ive seen him get fucked w/ bigger dildos then the dick he likes to think is big that he has
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Originally Posted by tsntx
You sound like you two were married once.
:wink:
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Originally Posted by ARMANIXXX
he wishes
in a land far ago he was pushing joey s to do a scene 4 us... i thought he was a douche and wasnt into it
idk why holly likes his loser ass so much but the guys a tool
however...
i did see a clip of the scene w/ him and kimber someone posted a month or so back where he lifted her to fuck her....
that was hot
but i give her the credit for it cuz shes a spinner and he just happens to be big enough to spin
lets try to keep the 2nd rate HA off the real HA
lame enough when the site owner makes lame threads trying to get members or hits but lets not bring mutual members into it
lol Jen!!
And they pulled that off hungdevils I didn't submit it lol
that seems fairly fucked up they pulled it off another site
lame on them
no it never happenedQuote:
Originally Posted by braveman
talking to christian on the phone/online turned me off so bad i pulled out of the deal and that was the last time i even considered doing porn
Yes please tell us more,he has been a porn idol of mine since the early 80's I'm always thrilled with any information about Joey Silvera. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by braveman
It is unfair, but it gives me publicity lol
yeah and shits on his... win / win
He used to post here?Quote:
Originally Posted by tsntx
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Originally Posted by tsntx
Now i really hate him, jen your the hottest thing ever! =) i kno i say that alot lol
AGREE, WAS A HOTT SCENEQuote:
Originally Posted by tsntx
Yeah but whether you like him or not, Christian is probably the only guy who is trying to mainstream the idea of working with t girls as being par for the course for a top male talent and not a stigma to be avoided.
Is he an asshole?
Very likely, but if you read most porn blogs so is 90% of the talent.
You two had a disagreement over money and working together. All the girls who work for Kink.com (they do tsseduction) seem to like it, but there have been one or two incidents where someone working for the whippedass site seems to have had an issue. There's been at least one discussion I'm aware of over what they're like.
So one person may have had a very bad experience with them and others may think they're just fine.
Not saying that Christian wasn't an asshole to you and Jen, but that he may not always be an asshole, especially because there appear to be any number of t-girls who like working with him just fine.
I'm just saying the guy took a big chance working both sides of the fence. Nobody before him in my knowledge even gave it a real shot. Maybe that's earned him one or two points before we start crucifying him...
You are missing the point entirely, there is no reason for him or anyone else to act this way!Quote:
Originally Posted by cheez
Nah not really. My point is yeah the guy was an asshole in this instance with you.But plenty of other girls seem to at the very least, tolerate him just fine. Producers keep hiring him and based on his appearances he's an in demand talent. That's just facts there.Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
And it's easy to take your experience with him and turn this into a "this guy sucks thread"
But he's also done something that no other male performer has tried to do in reference to the TS side of porn. He says in interviews he's not gonna stop doing the scenes with transgirls.
I mean is he a worse asshole than 99% of the straight men in porn who view you and other t-girls as a part of the industry they find unappealing (at least in their public persona...). Those guys don't even want to come near you.
Is he worse than them?
I fully acknowledge he may have been as asshole to you. My question is has he earned any credit for actually trying to mainstream the idea of being with t-girls?
here's a guy who goes from working with any number of top ten straight genetic girls in the industry and then does scenes with Kimber James, TS Jesse, TS Mandy, Gia Darling and Alison Dale.
Yet he gets a callout thread on Hungangels where you and tsntx are ripping on the dude...I dunno seems he's at least part of the family, you know, unlike 99% of the rest of the mainstream adult industry. I just think that earns him some points...
Hook, Line, SinkerQuote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
Right?
yeah if used to = a week agoQuote:
Originally Posted by ARMANIXXX
"hey everybody. im a giant lurch meets uncle fester faggot and i got hedgehogs. anyone wanna see some lame ass pics of them?"
:twisted:
and alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by cheez
1. he isnt trying to mainstream shit. hes a 2nd rate prostitute trying to get as much work as he can, from anywhere that will give it to him. hes a joke. he isnt something to be revered or enviedQuote:
cheez wrote:
Yeah but whether you like him or not, Christian is probably the only guy who is trying to mainstream the idea of working with t girls as being par for the course for a top male talent and not a stigma to be avoided.
Is he an asshole?
Very likely, but if you read most porn blogs so is 90% of the talent.
You two had a disagreement over money and working together. All the girls who work for Kink.com (they do tsseduction) seem to like it, but there have been one or two incidents where someone working for the whippedass site seems to have had an issue. There's been at least one discussion I'm aware of over what they're like.
So one person may have had a very bad experience with them and others may think they're just fine.
Not saying that Christian wasn't an asshole to you and Jen, but that he may not always be an asshole, especially because there appear to be any number of t-girls who like working with him just fine.
I'm just saying the guy took a big chance working both sides of the fence. Nobody before him in my knowledge even gave it a real shot. Maybe that's earned him one or two points before we start crucifying him...
2. maybe those girls dont know any better. maybe those girls dont know how to say no. or are too scared to say no. maybe some girls think getting double their hourly rate and a video makes them somebody and are too scared to piss anyone off.
3. took a chance working both sides of the fence??? what r u kidding? the guy STARTED in gay porn... who wants to guess my word for a guy that does that?? the guy hasnt done anything that hasnt been done before and by far better actors.... peter north and a few other vintage stars, paul carrington, rod barry, drew andrews *so hot yum*, paul morgan list goes on and on
4. kelly didnt make this thread crucifying him. someone from the bargain basement HA did... trying to draw traffic to that black hole of crap.
the guy doesnt post here... once in a blue moon to self-promote is NOT a part of this family
there is nothing special about this guy except that unlike most male actors they sucker into doing tranny porn this one is actually bigger then the girls he works with.... and THATS why hes popular w/ the girls.... bc noone wants to look bigger than a guy that is fucking them.
Male talent have been working in the straight/transsexual porn industry since I started in 1995, trust me it's nothing new. Many of them also dip their sticks into gay films. It's a money thing and nothing more. Some people get caught up in their own hype and actually start to think they're on the same level as say Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie. It's porn, you'll never win an academy award for it lol. That's why it's always good to have a back up career plan. It's pretty easy to become yesterdays news when it comes to the porn industry, there will always be someone younger, prettier and willing to work for less money. It's just the way it is.
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Originally Posted by tsntx
most ppl would
only behind closed doors
HAHA thank god, hopefully he wont be hired agian hes almost as anooying as that bald guy with the sunglasses. There is an overwhelming aura of gayness that ruins the porn.
lol
his problem is that his ego became HUGE over the years
he's totaly in love with himself.
I know at least of 1 shemale that used to work with him in more than few clips , these days she says she wouldn't meet him again even if he was the last man left 8)
Name another star who does it with his openess, regularity and the number of top co-stars that he gets. Most other players who've dabbled in both genres are usually quite limited in their roles and options. They're usually third tier, no name talent- the guys who are the tenth guy in the back of a gangbang scene. That's been my experience and I've been writing about porn and adult videos for various publications for nearly twenty years.Quote:
Originally Posted by meghanchavalier
First let's be clear, I said it's callout thread and both you and Kelly are ripping him. I don't believe I said either of you started it. If I did say that anywhere, that would be an error.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsntx
He may not be the great crusader of porn, but he is taking a risk. He gets ostracized by certain talent, but continues to work in straight and TS films. The guy has broken through on the straight side. You can't deny that. He pops up in dozens of scenes for Brazzers and Naughty America every week. There is one other guy (he may be one of the names you mentioned) who has been popping up as of late who did some tranny work, but he's a virtual unknown and pops up in mostly low rent websites with mostly unknown talent- most of those other names you mentioned to my knowledge have rarely if ever worked with a top girl in the straight industry- most of them are bottoms in strap on movies or male bisexual movies which are not consider straight genre movies. Christian has worked with and continues to work with dozens of big names in straight porn.
Peter North denied his gay career with every breath and didn't move between the two genres. He worked in one and then the other. Once he got regular straight work, he never looked back. Lots of guys do that. It's just easier to break in or pay bills doing gay for pay. Criss Strokes is a recent example of someone who once he got straight work cut his gay ties.
And again, I ask how many people in porn have you dealt with who haven't been some kind of asshole? I've dealt with dozens and they're often assholes. I've had girls who cost me money by not doing interviews that they flake off on, photographers I know have had to call off photo shoots because participants show up looking like shit. After a while you start to accept that there a lot of head cases in the business and that's part of the price of doing business.
Anyway if you guys don't consider him a part of the community overall, that's your call. I certainly can't make it so. I just thought he's the most prominent male star who does work in both genres (and if not, please show me who else has his credits) and as such even if he's an asshole, he's one of our assholes and perhaps deserves slightly better treatment.
Confession: I really enjoyed working with Christian, he was a total gentleman on set, and even helped me find a good deal on a hotel room in Vegas after our shoot was done. Not only that, but the sex with him was hot, and I think he's a really talented performer.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheez
We planned on doing another scene together, but when he told me he needed to keep it a secret on his blog I had a moment of indignation and never talked to him again.
It's not that I wanted him to talk about me on his blog, its just that I've dealt with so much crap over being TS that I resented being yet another persons little secret, and deep down I was angry at the entire industry and society in general for the ways in which trans women are treated and represented. Christian is not really any worse than any one else I've dealt with, and decidedly I like him more than the other male talent I've worked with (except for Johnny Rocket on Kink, he was a genuinely sweet guy).
Keep it a secret when everyone knows he's fucks trannys anyway?
Cheeze ripping him? Am I? I was talking about his professional demeanor and not even that his basic peer to peer respect. I believe I complimented him on his perfomance level, even thinking that he wouldn't accept the 350 I pay my male talent, due to the fact he would charge more. If you even read my statements about him you would of known that. I talked bad of his ATTITUDE not of his PERFORMANCE LEVEL. Many directors have said the same thing as well as talent. If he doesn't get his way he throws a fit, if he does he is a nice guy. As I said he was nice to me till he tried time and time again to get in a scene with me, because he likes to be in scenes with all the "new girls" its like a competition for him, and he kept getting beat out by other male talent, and he ASSUMED I put him on my no list. He also called time and time again to take me out to "dinner" where he takes pics, brags, and what not on his blog. I did not go, I always made up an excuse and that angered him too. Then when he was OUT OF WORK for a few days he started calling around and found that I had my own website now and I was hiring male talent but I already booked LOBO and he was mad I didn't ask him first. And I explained to Chris that I didn't think he would work for so cheap and I was waiting to ask him till I could make him a better offer, and instead of taking that as a compliment he took that as me and I quote "treating him like a second class pornstar" lol whatever that is. Then he called me dumb and stupid for not asking him, and so on and so forth with more attacks. So I never was talking about his performance level, whether he tells the world he does do transsexual porn or not, or whether he is good looking or not! I could care less about all that! Mine is about his DIVA attitude! So please learn to read what I said before you put your two cents in!
Kisses
Kelly
so, you are saying he can't fuck?Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
lol I don't know about his fucking, I have been told he knows how to fuck for the camera getting all the right angles and knowing where his light is and thats what is important for the scene to make it look the best as possible for the viewer. He even helps the girl out making sure she looks her best, and thats rare for most male talent, thats why he gets hired back, that and he can stay hard no matter what. So again I was not talking about his performance level.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonsieurValentine