Re: off topic...California law to ban/exterminate Pit Bulls
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanj
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinn
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanj
What you said makes no sense. most pit bulls are owned by caring responsible owners. of course there is a small minority of scum that will take these dogs and train them to be mean and fight. but that is a small minority.
It may be a "small" minority in your little corner of the world, but in the inner city neighborhoods where I do gentrification related investing, they are nearly as common as sagging pants and illiteracy -- with many of them being trained.
As for comparisons between this breed and any other, you have to be kidding. You may as well be comparing an M1 Abrams Tank to a Yugo.
-Quinn
first of all i live in the inner city and have all my life...the backyard breeders and dog fighters are a problem...but they are the ones who should be punished, not the innocent dogs.
and it doesnt sound like you know much about the breed....pits by nature are very people friendly...in fact if you look more into the breed they dont even make good watch dogs because its not in their nature to be viscous towards people or territorial....and you want to advocate exterminating this breed because of a few scumbag owners train them to be viscous :roll:
here is a link to the american temperment society....they test the temperments of all dogs...and pits rate higher than most other breeds.
http://www.atts.org/statistics.htm
If you actually do live in the inner city, which I doubt, then you must know that the problem goes far beyond people training this breed for dog fights. The primary problem is the hoods who train them to be viscous so that they can have a tough dog, not the little bitches who train them for dog fights.
As for "not sounding like I know much about the breed," what less than keen insight do you base that point of view on? Since I have already stated that I agree with your assessment of the breed's temperament, it must be something as arbitrary as my disagreeing with your point of view regarding the ban's imposition. Wow, that really demonstrates a very impressive clarity of thought. LOL....
In the end, any reasonable person knows that legislation designed to punish people who train this breed to be aggressive can't be effectively enforced. Law enforcement authorities have already stated as much, which is why certain municipalities are imposing bans in the first place.
Unfortunately, this breed has largely become just another fashionable weapon for wannabe thugs -- who are its principal buyers. Regarding this commonly held (and accurate) perception, Wikipedia states the following:
American Pit Bull Terriers and APBT-looking dogs are often associated with the urban and hip hop culture, and many young (predominantly male) people purchase them on the grounds of wanting a 'tough dog' — sadly, dogs acquired for such purposes (of any breed) often end up maltrained and in poor health.
You can argue against the factual data contained in the San Francisco Chronicle article, you can argue against a widely held public perception, or you can argue against common sense. Frankly, I'm not terribly interested in discussing this any more tonight either way.
-Quinn