Study: Men Want TG's to Get Hard and Orgasm Because It Makes Them Feel Manly

Hetero men want females and tg's to come for the same reason. I can't see how it could be interpreted any differently.

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Originally Posted by MrFanti

Nothing really new here....men want genetic females to also orgasm....

In fact, regardless of sex, what person doesn't want their partner to orgasm? - IMHO, nobody.....
I.E., Lesbians want their partners orgasm, gay men want their partners to orgasm...genetic females want their men to orgasm....

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Yes but the study proved the reason why.

Maybe it is possible to generalize the findings that men view arousal in a partner as confirmation of their masculinity. The problem is that you make it sound like the article was uniquely attempting to explain attraction to ts'. Maybe women view men's arousal as confirmation of their femininity.

But without the article anyone could infer that people see their partner's gratification as self-affirming, and it affirms the person in whatever way they want to be seen or think their partner sees them.

That's your interpretation. The findings are applicable to tg's.

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Originally Posted by nysprod

That's your interpretation. The findings are applicable to tg's.

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Your interpretation/extension is logical, but your presentation of it is appalling. The findings may be applicable, but the current study does not show it. This is exactly how fake news starts, someone adding their own spin and presenting it as facts...:banghead

I could write a paper proving an apple is an apple. A logical interpretation/extension of that would be an orange is an orange, but until proven, it would be just a theory.:shrug

Sorry Prod, unless the research was specifically targeting a particular group over generalization can be dangerous. One has to be careful when applying a study as a generalization. I would say the study aptly applies to genetic woman sexual interaction with genetic men. It is easy to assume the motivations during sex maybe similar, but the expectations for transgender partners are different. This makes the study difficult to be applied. For example, a transgender mtf partner may be incapable of achieving an erection or the traditional orgasm due hormone treatment. This would change the outcome of your conclusion. Nor it would be expected to for someone to believe an anal orgasm can be achieved in the same manner as a vaginal orgasm. And this is just some of variations to be expected when applying the study to a different group. Generalization from research targeting a specific groups cannot be easily applied to all groups without certain considerations.

I stand by the conclusions of the study, which are applicable to men and tg's.
Factoid: chasers give high mark's to escorts who get hard and come while giving poor Mark's to those who don't.

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Originally Posted by nysprod

I stand by the conclusions of the study, which are applicable to men and tg's.
Factoid: chasers give high mark's to escorts who get hard and come while giving poor Mark's to those who don't.

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On the surface that would be true, but it would need proper research to say it's true. I have seen women who I knew couldn't cum (I know this prior) and some who didn't get hard. Did that diminish my experience of course not. And even in a non pay for play situation, the expectations during sex were different. In the situations where a person advertises they can cum and get hard and fail do so I see no reason why a person would get excellent score especially when their expectations was not met. Looking at it from pay for play versus a non pay for play the expectations can again be different. I know you want to glean some relevance from the study I find the study wouldn't fit most situations.

Oh by the way in the premise of the research, it does not take into account that in both parties have the need to have the other person satisfied by both women and men may be part and could be seen as part of the perception of enjoyment. The study concludes to quickly that inherently men's motivations for a women orgasm is about self-validation and neglects to take into account about sex be pleasurable to both parties. In fact it assumes women do not take into account if a man orgasm is expected by women. There are studies that discuss the perception of man not having a erection or achieve orgasm can lead women feeling as if they are unattractive and or something is wrong when neither is the case. It's interesting study, but it has a few issues that needs to be addressed on a whole.

Of course you can take my thoughts and throw it out the window lol.

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Originally Posted by Laphroaig

Your interpretation/extension is logical, but your presentation of it is appalling. The findings may be applicable, but the current study does not show it.

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Really? Trans girls are women and certainly we see them that way. Why? Because as we know, the fact they have male genitalia doesn't make a difference in their gender. Therefore, the findings of this study are applicable.

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Originally Posted by lifeisfiction

On the surface that would be true, but it would need proper research to say it's true. I have seen women who I knew couldn't cum (I know this prior) and some who didn't get hard. Did that diminish my experience of course not.

Of course you can take my thoughts and throw it out the window lol.

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Not at all, I want the input. First, the study didn't say a man's experience was diminished if the woman doesn't come. Second, and be honest, if given a choice (with all other things being equal) you'll take the tranny with a nice hard one over one who can't rise to the occasion.

Life is like a box of transexual escorts, you'll never know what your gonna get!