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Jane Marie going post op
Not really. I just want to see how long it takes some members...*cough* Spanklin *cough* to jump in and start bitching about her ruining the career she's already retired from.
Yea, I'm bored.
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Lol Spanklin. That should be his new name.
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Franklin's threads > this troll thread
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As for the name Spanklin all I'll say is...I've run across a bunch of forums similar to this one where he posts..so dude must watch a hella lot of porn...
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As a businesswoman he obviously spends a lot of money on porn..so let him be him lol
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That's a really good point. Spank away!
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Dibs on her cock. :dancing:
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Guys, why don't we give Franklin a break, a little? He knows what he loves and is curious and investigative! We can't blame anyone for being passionate!
Franklin makes a matter of business out of this. What I really dislike is the guys who blame girls for having srs just because their little cock fantasy is shattered. That, to me, is really outraging.
I often have the feeling that whenever Franklin starts a thread, no matter how interresting the question might be, we all get along to joyfully stone him... But he does often ask very interresting questions, no?
:2cent
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Ms.Stepford
That's a really good point. Spank away!
You just really love that, huh baby?
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wow.... that's a very hostile post Cristian. Why can't you guys just get along.....lol
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bassman2546
Dibs on her cock. :dancing:
LOL. they don't really cut it off, it's inverted inward.... sorta
Nice avatar
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Originally Posted by
Corran
Not really. I just want to see how long it takes some members...*cough* Spanklin *cough* to jump in and start bitching about her ruining the career she's already retired from.
Yea, I'm bored.
First off, I don't have a problem with Kimber having SRS. It's her body and her choice! I've never criticized her for having SRS.
However, it is well known among people in the industry that most TS pornstars' careers end after SRS. The market for post op TS women is much smaller than the market for pre op TS women.
I remember Kelly Pierce posting in a thread that SRS is a bad business move if a TS woman still wants to work in porn.
Who hires a post op pornstar? Grooby and SMC are the only two companies in the past few years who have booked a post pornstar. Both companies have shot post op Danielle Fox. Grooby shot the post op woman who appeared on MTV's True Life. Most post op girls will have more problems finding work. I am sure Kimber James could break this trend if she would be willing to shot for other companies besides her site and SMC.
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That might be the mistake these ladies are making staying in TS porn. Imo they are no longer TS once they have the surgery.
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If only there was something dedicated to girls who had srs, like Ladyboy Pussy, from Asia.
What's most troubling with this is that any of these girls would make a fabulous porn carreer after srs if she wasn't known as a t-girl. They're every bit as lovely as any g-girl. It's just that a large part of their followers are into their cocks.
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nysprod
You just really love that, huh baby?
I really do. It's not an act ;)
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danthepoetman
If only there was something dedicated to girls who had srs, like Ladyboy Pussy, from Asia.
What's most troubling with this is that any of these girls would make a fabulous porn carreer after srs if she wasn't known as a t-girl. They're every bit as lovely as any g-girl. It's just that a large part of their followers are into their cocks.
I would guess that for many of them porn is simply the fastest track to their SRS, and once that goal has been achieved they're happy to exit the biz.
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She doesn't top, so whoopty shit
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Ms.Stepford
I really do. It's not an act ;)
Of course baby...warm up that nice ass of yours with a few smacks and stroke your cock...when it's nice and hard, you're ready to get pounded like the bad girl you are...
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flabbybody
I would guess that for many of them porn is simply the fastest track to their SRS, and once that goal has been achieved they're happy to exit the biz.
I think you're right, Flabbybody: that's what we hear often indeed. Once it's done, they just want the regular life of a regular woman. And that's perfectly understandable.
But you know, there is no such route, right now. They just don't have this possibility. So I'm wondering... What if they could still do some porn from time to time after srs? What if there was a working site or a market of this kind established?
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Ms.Stepford
I really do. It's not an act ;)
This said with this avatar, and blood tends to dangerously accumulate in mostly one part of our anatomy. You're a dangerous lady, Trixi! But we like it that way! :)
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Originally Posted by
danthepoetman
If only there was something dedicated to girls who had srs, like Ladyboy Pussy, from Asia.
What's most troubling with this is that any of these girls would make a fabulous porn carreer after srs if she wasn't known as a t-girl. They're every bit as lovely as any g-girl. It's just that a large part of their followers are into their cocks.
The number of trannies who are cpable of passing as women for a straight audience is already very small.
Out of that number, an even smaller number has convincingly looking man made snatches.
What some don't seem to understand is, straight audiences generally don't share the view that a cut up, inverted penis that in the luckiest cases looks close to natural pussy is equal to the natural thing.
Some have tried to cross over, and usually disappeared very quickly.
It's a tough world out there, just take any girl out of a current Hustler issue, and she is at least equally hot and sexy as the 10% of hottest trannies out there.
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Originally Posted by
danthepoetman
Guys, why don't we give Franklin a break, a little? He knows what he loves and is curious and investigative! We can't blame anyone for being passionate!
Franklin makes a matter of business out of this. What I really dislike is the guys who blame girls for having srs just because their little cock fantasy is shattered. That, to me, is really outraging.
I often have the feeling that whenever Franklin starts a thread, no matter how interresting the question might be, we all get along to joyfully stone him... But he does often ask very interresting questions, no?
:2cent
I agree with all of this post, Dan, but the piece in bold in particular. Drives me crazy too.
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youngblood61
That might be the mistake these ladies are making staying in TS porn. Imo they are no longer TS once they have the surgery.
Depends on how you define it, Youngblood. Having surgery to change a penis to a vagina doesn't alter the fact that the individual was born male and will therefore remain trans whatever their genital arrangements. The fact that having the surgery is almost certainly the result of a compelling personal desire to match their body to their mind doesn't alter that.
But in most cases, it makes them happy. Their porn career has served its purpose and now they can get on with their lives. I rejoice for every one of them who makes that final change.
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f-finger
The number of trannies who are cpable of passing as women for a straight audience is already very small.
Out of that number, an even smaller number has convincingly looking man made snatches.
What some don't seem to understand is, straight audiences generally don't share the view that a cut up, inverted penis that in the luckiest cases looks close to natural pussy is equal to the natural thing.
Some have tried to cross over, and usually disappeared very quickly.
It's a tough world out there, just take any girl out of a current Hustler issue, and she is at least equally hot and sexy as the 10% of hottest trannies out there.
This is such an outraging, disgusting post, I feel discouraged at the perspective of responding to it.
Man! what are you doing on this site? Why are you not on a gay site? Accept who and what you are, and stop dumping on transsexual women! You don't like women, man! you like cocks! This is a fan site. This is a site where we celebrate transsexual women and exchange with them. You're telling them, right now, all of them, not just the porn performers, but to all of these women, that only a minuscule portion of them can "pass" in society; because if they can't pass on film, it implicitely means that they will pass even less in the company of people. You are telling them that their organs after srs are only and will always only be inverted penises, and that in the end, nothing can make out of them complete, real women... You're also telling all of them that if they go through with what most of them want to go through with, srs, they wont present any interrest to anyone anymore, not to straight people and not to... let's say "shemales fans" like yourself. And you add to all of this wonderfully open-minded rhetoric that it's useless for them to entertain the hope of blending in, because only 10% not of all of them, but only 10% of the "hottest of them" could be as cute as ANY girl in Hustler magazine. If that's not hateful and malintentioned, I just don't know what is. Do you even stop to think about what you're writing? This is litterally pure hate. I would encourage you to just get out of your little fantasy world or your warm little masturbation bubble, and have a look around you at the average woman, but I don't think it's necessary, since such hate and blindness can only come from enormous frustration at seeing your cock fantasy and your comfortable straight facade be shaken by transsexual women going through with reassignment surgery.
It's the second or third such post that you made recently. What the fuck is wrong with you, man? Is the fact that there's a screen in front of you, the fact that your messages are transmitted through writings or the fact that you're expressing yourself through the same device in which you live this bubbled fantasy, that allow you to not realize that you're talking directly to transsexual women here, exactly as if they were with you, somewhere, as if there was several of them in the same room as you are? This is not just a fantasy: you are talking to people, here! Real people! with dreams and feelings and hopes, and parents and friends. People who live with the hope of one day be women like any other woman despite incredible odds and crushing pressure from society. People who suffer enough as is without being dumped on and verbally abused. People just like you, man, who do not want to see others try to depreciate everything to what they hold so dear to in their life.
It's strange, I have the feeling that you have very little experience with women in general. And of course even less with t-women, no? Get out of the bubble, a little, and try to exchange with real people, from time to time!
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danthepoetman
This is such an outraging, disgusting post, I feel discouraged at the perspective of responding to it.
Man! what are you doing on this site? Why are you not on a gay site? Accept who and what you are, and stop dumping on transsexual women! You don't like women, man! you like cocks! This is a fan site. This is a site where we celebrate transsexual women and exchange with them. You're telling them, right now, all of them, not just the porn performers, but to all of these women, that only a minuscule portion of them can "pass" in society; because if they can't pass on film, it implicitely means that they will pass even less in the company of people. You are telling them that their organs after srs are only and will always only be inverted penises, and that in the end, nothing can make out of them complete, real women... You're also telling all of them that if they go through with what most of them want to go through with, srs, they wont present any interrest to anyone anymore, not to straight people and not to... let's say "shemales fans" like yourself. And you add to all of this wonderfully open-minded rhetoric that it's useless for them to entertain the hope of blending in, because only 10% not of all of them, but only 10% of the "hottest of them" could be as cute as ANY girl in Hustler magazine. If that's not hateful and malintentioned, I just don't know what is. Do you even stop to think about what you're writing? This is litterally pure hate. I would encourage you to just get out of your little fantasy world or your warm little masturbation bubble, and have a look around you at the average woman, but I don't think it's necessary, since such hate and blindness can only come from enormous frustration at seeing your cock fantasy and your comfortable straight facade be shaken by transsexual women going through with reassignment surgery.
It's the second or third such post that you made recently. What the fuck is wrong with you, man? Is the fact that there's a screen in front of you, the fact that your messages are transmitted through writings or the fact that you're expressing yourself through the same device in which you live this bubbled fantasy, that allow you to not realize that you're talking directly to transsexual women here, exactly as if they were with you, somewhere, as if there was several of them in the same room as you are? This is not just a fantasy: you are talking to people, here! Real people! with dreams and feelings and hopes, and parents and friends. People who live with the hope of one day be women like any other woman despite incredible odds and crushing pressure from society. People who suffer enough as is without being dumped on and verbally abused. People just like you, man, who do not want to see others try to depreciate everything to what they hold so dear to in their life.
It's strange, I have the feeling that you have very little experience with women in general. And of course even less with t-women, no? Get out of the bubble, a little, and try to exchange with real people, from time to time!
Thank you Dan. The transphobe known as f-finger was needing that.
Btw Bonne Fete de la Revolution! C'est genial ici!
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Originally Posted by
danthepoetman
This is such an outraging, disgusting post, I feel discouraged at the perspective of responding to it.
Man! what are you doing on this site? Why are you not on a gay site? Accept who and what you are, and stop dumping on transsexual women! You don't like women, man! you like cocks! This is a fan site. This is a site where we celebrate transsexual women and exchange with them. You're telling them, right now, all of them, not just the porn performers, but to all of these women, that only a minuscule portion of them can "pass" in society; because if they can't pass on film, it implicitely means that they will pass even less in the company of people. You are telling them that their organs after srs are only and will always only be inverted penises, and that in the end, nothing can make out of them complete, real women... You're also telling all of them that if they go through with what most of them want to go through with, srs, they wont present any interrest to anyone anymore, not to straight people and not to... let's say "shemales fans" like yourself. And you add to all of this wonderfully open-minded rhetoric that it's useless for them to entertain the hope of blending in, because only 10% not of all of them, but only 10% of the "hottest of them" could be as cute as ANY girl in Hustler magazine. If that's not hateful and malintentioned, I just don't know what is. Do you even stop to think about what you're writing? This is litterally pure hate. I would encourage you to just get out of your little fantasy world or your warm little masturbation bubble, and have a look around you at the average woman, but I don't think it's necessary, since such hate and blindness can only come from enormous frustration at seeing your cock fantasy and your comfortable straight facade be shaken by transsexual women going through with reassignment surgery.
It's the second or third such post that you made recently. What the fuck is wrong with you, man? Is the fact that there's a screen in front of you, the fact that your messages are transmitted through writings or the fact that you're expressing yourself through the same device in which you live this bubbled fantasy, that allow you to not realize that you're talking directly to transsexual women here, exactly as if they were with you, somewhere, as if there was several of them in the same room as you are? This is not just a fantasy: you are talking to people, here! Real people! with dreams and feelings and hopes, and parents and friends. People who live with the hope of one day be women like any other woman despite incredible odds and crushing pressure from society. People who suffer enough as is without being dumped on and verbally abused. People just like you, man, who do not want to see others try to depreciate everything to what they hold so dear to in their life.
It's strange, I have the feeling that you have very little experience with women in general. And of course even less with t-women, no? Get out of the bubble, a little, and try to exchange with real people, from time to time!
Really sucks how it seems that allot of men into ts girls treat us if we are second class to a gg ("the real thing") and than wonder why so many ts have issues with men
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Really sucks how it seems that allot of men into ts girls treat us if we are second class to a gg ("the real thing") and than wonder why so many ts have issues with men
Amber,
I want to start off by saying that you are absolutely gorgeous. Second, there are a lot of men like myself who prefer post-op transsexual women. I have no interest in penis and view transsexual women as complete women. When Kimber James got her sexual reassignment surgery, I was extremely happy she got her surgery. To me, transsexual women are complete women. I hope you will try to find men like myself who are strictly masculine tops and have zero interest in penis.
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I know that a lot of the cock hounds will be disappointed, but some of the biggest names in transsexual porn want to get sexual reassignment surgery and want to retire from porn.
Jane Marie- Will get SRS
Mia Isabella- Will get SRS
Amy Daly- Will get SRS
Hazel Tucker- Will get SRS
Domino Pressely- Will get SRS
Just as with Gia Darling, Kimber James, Mia Fever, Alexia Acosta (Giselle), and Danielle Foxxx, I look forward to seeing these beautiful transsexual women completing their journey to full womanhood!
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I know that a lot of the cock hounds will be disappointed, but some of the biggest names in transsexual porn want to get sexual reassignment surgery and want to retire from porn.
Jane Marie- Will get SRS
Mia Isabella- Will get SRS
Amy Daly- Will get SRS
Hazel Tucker- Will get SRS
Domino Pressely- Will get SRS
Just as with Gia Darling, Kimber James, Mia Fever, Alexia Acosta (Giselle), and Danielle Foxxx, I look forward to seeing these beautiful transsexual women completing their journey to full womanhood!
Good for them
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Good for them
I agree, whatever someone wants to do is their business. But it's not as cut and dried as that.
These people made their living with their dicks...they put them out there like products. Consumers liked what they were selling and bought it. But then if they like it too much they're cockhounds.
If Mia, or Domino, or whomever, were say musicians or writers and were known to be transgender, people being interested in them for their dicks would be a bit out there. But they're not.
So it's like "Yeah You Want This" until they don't want it anymore. And then there's something wrong with you if you still want it.
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nysprod
I agree, whatever someone wants to do is their business. But it's not as cut and dried as that.
These people made their living with their dicks...they put them out there like products. Consumers liked what they were selling and bought it. But then if they like it too much they're cockhounds.
If Mia, or Domino, or whomever, were say musicians or writers and were known to be transgender, people being interested in them for their dicks would be a bit out there. But they're not.
So it's like "Yeah You Want This" until they don't want it anymore. And then there's something wrong with you if you still want it.
TBH...1 the women are people, not objects and 2...anyone who does not realise that a significant number of transwomen (not all) will jump at SRS just as soon as they have the wherewithal, is being terminally naive. Enjoy it while it's on offer, be nice when it isn't...and that way everyone will get along fine
There's always gong to be new talent and established girls who don't want to have SRS. Yes, some of the most attractive ones do--you don't see some correlation?
Nway I have to get back to the party now...
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Mr. Sinister
I know that a lot of the cock hounds will be disappointed, but some of the biggest names in transsexual porn want to get sexual reassignment surgery and want to retire from porn.
Jane Marie- Will get SRS
Mia Isabella- Will get SRS
Amy Daly- Will get SRS
Hazel Tucker- Will get SRS
Domino Pressely- Will get SRS
Just as with Gia Darling, Kimber James, Mia Fever, Alexia Acosta (Giselle), and Danielle Foxxx, I look forward to seeing these beautiful transsexual women completing their journey to full womanhood!
That's alot of current favorites!
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amberskyi
Really sucks how it seems that allot of men into ts girls treat us if we are second class to a gg ("the real thing") and than wonder why so many ts have issues with men
I see it clearly now, Amber. I do. I never would have envision it before comming here on HA. Never. I now understand perfectly. I'm sorry if I ever was sceptical or if I have been critical (and I might have been a few times when I first arrived). I totally understand the issues you might have, and how sometimes, you can get so tired and mad at such attitudes.
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MacShreach
Thank you Dan. The transphobe known as f-finger was needing that.
Btw Bonne Fete de la Revolution! C'est genial ici!
Merci, mon ami! :) Bonne fête si vous célébrez aussi!
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MacShreach
TBH...1 the women are people, not objects and 2...anyone who does not realise that a significant number of transwomen (not all) will jump at SRS just as soon as they have the wherewithal, is being terminally naive. Enjoy it while it's on offer, be nice when it isn't...and that way everyone will get along fine
There's always gong to be new talent and established girls who don't want to have SRS. Yes, some of the most attractive ones do--you don't see some correlation?
Nway I have to get back to the party now...
Very well said, Mac.
Besides, Nysprod, keep in mind that the "product" they "put out" is not their dick, for Christ's sake, it's themselves as women with a little extra. If you chose to see their dicks as "the product", it's YOU'RE PARTICULAR VISION OR FEELING! Not theirs...
They're women who most of the time HAVE no choice but to do porn to be able to go through the changes they absolutely need!! They don't go into porn to proudly show their dicks!
And you see, that's precisely the problem: stop seeing the God damn dick, and see the girl, a little! see the woman!
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MacShreach
TBH
the women are people, not objects
You're projecting...I never said women were objects...but porn is the business of objectifying gentials, sex acts, etc. It's their product.
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Nysprod, keep in mind that the "product" they "put out" is not their dick, for Christ's sake, it's themselves as women with a little extra.
Dan's a romantic, which is fine...I'm a cold, hard realist. Dan views things through rose-tinted glasses, which for all I know may be the better way...I see things in black and white.
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danthepoetman
They're women who most of the time HAVE no choice but to do porn to be able to go through the changes they absolutely need!! They don't go into porn to proudly show their dicks!
Definitely true for some, but not for all. No question it's difficult for many to find legitimate work, and many come from areas where there is little opportunity for education, etc. for anyone.
But there are some who get a thrill from porn and the level of fame it brings, so they do get caught up in that as well.
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nysprod
Dan's a romantic, which is fine...I'm a cold, hard realist. Dan views things through rose-tinted glasses, which for all I know may be the better way...I see things in black and white.
No, Nysprod, I'm not a romantic. I'm just respectful. I see people, not objects or singular elements of anatomy. I don't let my fantasy take a hold of my perspective to the point where I stop seeing people. You see, that's the problem. These girls go into porn as people; if some of them only see their cocks and not them as people, there is just something wrong with their perspective.
If you mean by being realistic, that I have to see that a majority of men who like t-porn primarely love cocks, well, I see that as much as you do, Nysprod, and I do acknowledge that. But that's a fantasy! Here on HA, we are engaging real transsexual women, they grant us the priviledge of their presence and exchange with us. We have to step out of the fantasy and meet reality, the reality of real people. Transsexual women are not futanaris!
Understand that I don't have anything against guys who entertain the cock girls fantasy. Nothing. It's OK. Anyone can have the fantasy he or she wants to have. But when you meet and encounter people, and even only when you voice an opinion, you have to step out of that fantasy and start seeing real people!
You see the difference?
And you know, not only is it a matter of respect, it's a matter of sanity! That's precisely the problem with sex offenders: they're almost always people who just can't find the line delimitating fantasy from reality. They just loose it. And don't get me wrong: I'm not making a necessary link between cockhounds and sex offences. But there is the same kind of blurriness in seeing and understanding what is what, and the same kind of frustration sometimes, in front of reality...