Re: Jane Marie going post op
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Prospero
Liberty. That's all good for you. But there are some girls on here who are not working girls and are not here for the same reasons as you. Your reasons are all perfectly honourable and i'm not in any way taking a shot at you (I like you way too much for that anyway) But I think the guys on here who shoot of their mouths against these girls if and when they say they are going post-op should shut up. There are amid the variety of people here some girls who are very vulnerable people... let the so-called "cockhounds_ enjoy the pornography, the pretty pics, the escort reviews and whatever but keep their comments zipped if a girl does decide to get SRS. You're made of pretty strong stuff emotionally. Not everyone is.
Honestly, though, I'd advise any young trans girl here seeking support and guidance to run the fuck away, find a support forum, and come back when they know who they are and what they want.
There are a lot of successfully transitioned or transitioning ladies here with lots of advice, but the signal-to-sexist-noise ratio is pretty steep, and this isn't the place for those susceptible to internalizing the prejudices and preferences of others.
Re: Jane Marie going post op
Yeah... you are right Trixi... so they need the likes of you to point them to the right corums
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Yeah, that internet scene can be just as dangerous, though.
Bitches crazy...
Re: Jane Marie going post op
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Originally Posted by
Prospero
Liberty. That's all good for you. But there are some girls on here who are not working girls and are not here for the same reasons as you. Your reasons are all perfectly honourable and i'm not in any way taking a shot at you (I like you way too much for that anyway) But I think the guys on here who shoot of their mouths against these girls if and when they say they are going post-op should shut up. There are amid the variety of people here some girls who are very vulnerable people... let the so-called "cockhounds_ enjoy the pornography, the pretty pics, the escort reviews and whatever but keep their comments zipped if a girl does decide to get SRS. You're made of pretty strong stuff emotionally. Not everyone is.
It's still a porn forum.
Re: Jane Marie going post op
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Originally Posted by
dderek123
It's still a porn forum.
It is only partly a porn forum, and TBH although it is now owned by porn producers I don't see that it has radically shifted in that direction, which is to their credit. HA has always been about much more than porn and it would be a sad day if it ever became only about it.
There are a gazillion porn threads on here, which are very nice, but that's not all. And it's not just about sex or escorting either. HA has always had a different mix from other forums.
There are certainly more supportive forums for transwomen, but there are also many transwomen here whose need for support shouldn't just be ignored.
One, albeit unwritten (I think) rule that has been in place here since the beginning, which you must know, is 'If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing', and Prospero is right...cockhounds should just lay off ESPECIALLY AFTER the girl has had surgery. Nobody' s stopping them having fun in the appropriate threads, all we're saying is, can it in threads specifically about post-SRS women, please.
Re: Jane Marie going post op
I have hope that she won't do it. She is too short with us :(
Re: Jane Marie going post op
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Originally Posted by
MacShreach
It is only partly a porn forum, and TBH although it is now owned by porn producers I don't see that it has radically shifted in that direction, which is to their credit. HA has always been about much more than porn and it would be a sad day if it ever became only about it.
There are a gazillion porn threads on here, which are very nice, but that's not all. And it's not just about sex or escorting either. HA has always had a different mix from other forums.
There are certainly more supportive forums for transwomen, but there are also many transwomen here whose need for support shouldn't just be ignored.
One, albeit unwritten (I think) rule that has been in place here since the beginning, which you must know, is 'If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing', and Prospero is right...cockhounds should just lay off ESPECIALLY AFTER the girl has had surgery. Nobody' s stopping them having fun in the appropriate threads, all we're saying is, can it in threads specifically about post-SRS women, please.
Yeah they are bothersome and impolite. Jeez I've seen worse on forums that are dedicated to personal computer hardware. So the butthurt is a bit much considering where we are on the interwebz. Just don't let it bother you too much.
If you were to go to 7-Eleven expecting a gourmet meal and a fancy glass of wine wouldn't that be a bit ridiculous?
Re: Jane Marie going post op
Derek, my friend, I just can't possibly see how the fact that this could be just and only a porn forum, should allow anyone on here to forget any kind of decency and respect to people and to people's feelings, especially women's feeling. Personally, I'll tell you respectfully that I can't see this as being a proper argument on the debate here, my friend.
Once again, we are exchanging with ladies who dream, for the large majority, not only of being recognized as women but also to have srs one day. It's just a matter of decency to keep this in mind and have basic respect in the way we formulate our opinions, or even not to present our opinions if they are offensive and hurtful.
There's a lot of space for fun on HA. You don't see anyone of us go to these numerous threads of "Big cock shemales" calling everybody cockhounds for their participation. You don't see anyone of us going around the site saying that guys who like to get penetrated are fags, or saying any similar denigrating and offensive terms to them. So why would it be ok and proper to be so extremely offensive to girls who are just realizing their dreams?
Why is it so bad to defend the girls and so ok to depreciate their values and hopes, or the physique they seek through surgery? Why is it so bad to tell someone who only see a cock instead of a girl, that he's a cockhound, and yet so proper to tell a girl that her srs makes her less than ordinary or competely uninterresting, or to imply in any way possible that she is not a "real" woman?
Besides, would I ask: what makes it so different because it's porn? Should we adopt a moralistic attitude and say that because it's porn, it's filth, and therefore we can just say whatever we want? I really don't get this argument. It sounds dangerously like a puritanistic christian argument to me... HA is definitely a place where you can appreciate porn and live your fantasy. And you can celebrate in images and in words what you like on the proper threads. But that shouldn't give anyone the right to present and defend offensive and shitty opinions, especially on threads where it is about a girl's dreams and values.
Once again, there's real people here! Let's celebrate our fantasies, but let's also make the difference between fantasy and reality when we express ourselves!
Re: Jane Marie going post op
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Originally Posted by
BobicX
I have hope that she won't do it. She is too short with us :(
Oh just shut up FFS
Re: Jane Marie going post op
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danthepoetman
Derek, my friend, I just can't possibly see how the fact that this could be just and only a porn forum, should allow anyone on here to forget any kind of decency and respect to people and to people's feelings, especially women's feeling. Personally, I'll tell you respectfully that I can't see this as being a proper argument on the debate here, my friend.
Just suggesting people shouldn't let it bother them so much. Never mentioned anything about who is allowed to do what.
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Originally Posted by
danthepoetman
Once again, we are exchanging with ladies who dream, for the large majority, not only of being recognized as women but also to have srs one day. It's just a matter of decency to keep this in mind and have basic respect in the way we formulate our opinions, or even not to present our opinions if they are offensive and hurtful.
There's a lot of space for fun on HA. You don't see anyone of us go to these numerous threads of "Big cock shemales" calling everybody cockhounds for their participation. You don't see anyone of us going around the site saying that guys who like to get penetrated are fags, or saying any similar denigrating and offensive terms to them.
I do see that happen. Quite often actually.
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danthepoetman
So why would it be ok and proper to be so extremely offensive to girls who are just realizing their dreams?
Never said it was ok or proper. Just saying don't let it bother you so much by remembering that you're on a porn forum.
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danthepoetman
Why is it so bad to defend the girls and so ok to depreciate their values and hopes, or the physique they seek through surgery?
But does any of this really matter in the grand scheme of things? Get a grip Sir Whiteknight.
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danthepoetman
Why is it so bad to tell someone who only see a cock instead of a girl, that he's a cockhound, and yet so proper to tell a girl that her srs makes her less than ordinary or competely uninterresting, or to imply in any way possible that she is not a "real" woman?
I think both of those are bad. But hey all this crap on the internet doesn't really matter anyways. People who call me names to my face don't really bother me either.
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danthepoetman
Besides, would I ask: what makes it so different because it's porn?
Do I really need to explain that? Come on now. I'm saying lets be more realistic, relax and have fun.
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Originally Posted by
danthepoetman
Should we adopt a moralistic attitude and say that because it's porn, it's filth, and therefore we can just say whatever we want? I really don't get this argument. It sounds dangerously like a puritanistic christian argument to me...
Not saying that at all. I'm agnostic FYI not sure what you mean about puritanistic but more power to you big fella.
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danthepoetman
HA is definitely a place where you can appreciate porn and live your fantasy. And you can celebrate in images and in words what you like on the proper threads. But that shouldn't give anyone the right to present and defend offensive and shitty opinions, especially on threads where it is about a girl's dreams and values.
Once again, there's real people here! Let's celebrate our fantasies, but let's also make the difference between fantasy and reality when we express ourselves!
Yeah I'm all for what you mentioned. But hey this is a porn forum. Don't let the trolls get you down and try to have a good time. If whiteknighting is your idea of a good time that's great. But some people seem to be over-reacting to the knuckleheads around here. Just relax and have a good time.