That's not socialism then. You're describing voluntary exchanges, which can include charity or gift-giving. What you're describing is thoroughgoing free-market anarcho-capitalism, i.e., that no person or group of people may initiate force, or threaten to initiate force, against the person or justly-acquired property of another. For the details on this, see my following work:
* James Redford, "Libertarian Anarchism Is Apodictically Correct", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 15, 2011, doi:10.2139/ssrn.1972733, https://archive.org/download/Liberta...rtarianism.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redfor...rtarianism.pdf , http://webcitation.org/63xyCLjLm .
You obviously do not even believe your own words on this, as you have said a number of times in this thread that Jesus Christ is a socialist.Quote:
The arguments about mass murder and the lamentable examples of the 20th century do not excuse the crimes of Hitler, Stalin and Mao, but if you are going to get trapped in a numbers game you could set the allegations of 20-30-40-50-60-70-80-90 million deaths of that trio against the 100 million first nations of the Americas slaughtered by Christianity and Capitalism between say 1500-1900 either directly through murder or through disease and starvation.
As Ayn Rand correctly observed, capitalism is the only moral political system. What many of the collectivists observe is that nature is extraordinarily cruel, and blame human liberty for it. They look to a totalitarian state as Big Mommy, as literally God, hoping that their God will protect them against the horrors of nature. But only societal capital accumulation and technological advancement can do that. Any interference with this process only prolongs the agony. Further, the collectivists empower their God, which is by far the most extreme organization of war, mass-murder, and life-long mass-gang-rape ever known.
One cannot apologize for and empower by far the greatest entity of war, mass-murder, and life-long mass-gang-rape ever known without being an apologist of it.Quote:
Lastly, because this is a well-worn and tedious point, Marx envisaged Communism as the condition that would emerge after the class struggles of the socialist transition, and be a stateless society, just as Orwell pointed out that socialism brings people together on the basis of mutual co-operation for the benefit of all, and that to claim that forcing people to work at the point of a gun is socialism is plain daft.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/...munist-regimes
"[S]ocialism brings people together" in a genocide-pit of rotting corpses.
Further, Karl Marx intended his system to be mass-murderous from the very start. Marx hated himself and everyone else with a burning passion. Marx's goal was to send himself and everyone else to Hell for all eternity. For details on that, see pp. 96-98 of my following article, particularly the footnotes therein:
* James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, https://archive.org/download/ThePhys...ics-of-God.pdf , https://purl.org/redford/physics-of-god .
See also:
* Prof. Richard M. Ebeling, "Economic Ideas: Karl Marx, the Man Behind the Communist Revolution", Future of Freedom Foundation, Feb. 13, 2017, https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/...st-revolution/ , https://web.archive.org/web/20180616...st-revolution/ , https://www.webcitation.org/71A3mGvp6 .
Where did Ayn Rand ever "argue[]" for that, whether with "devastating simplicity" or nonsimplicity? Rand was a promoter of the Nonaggression Principle.Quote:
If God does not exist, then we can just solve the poor-people's problems by eating the poor.
--As someone who argues that free markets are the solution, why do you invoke God at all in economic arguments? Ayn Rand, Murray Rothbard, Hans Hoppe and the other libertarian economists you recruit for your arguments were all atheists and would either laugh out loud at the assumed connection between Jesus and capitalism or maybe wonder what you have been smoking. And look again at Rand, who argues with devastating simplicity that the solution to poverty is not to eat the poor, but to kill them. ...
Yet it remains ever-true: If God does not exist, then we can just solve the poor-people's problems by eating the poor.
As Noam Chomsky correctly observed, the so-called "New Atheists" are themselves quite religious. They worship a God, but their God is the state. (Note that Chomsky himself is guilty of state-worship in a number of areas, but nevertheless, despite his many faults, he does sometimes make penetrating observations.) Their objections to others' religions, such as Christianity, is simply nothing more than attempting to eliminate their competition. However, as Chomsky also astutely noted, the New Atheists' religion is by far the most bloody and murderous religion to ever exist. Eliminating God in the 20th century didn't make the governments more liberal; instead, it simply removed any higher notion of truth to which those governments were expected to abide. The state made itself God.
The foregoing process which I describe is actually logically unavoidable. If God in the literal sense of the infinite sapient being does not exist, then all is permissible. Even if one can prove that, say, libertarianism is apodictically true in the same degree that 2+2 = 4 is true, so what? In the end, we're all dead anyway. The only thing that could give life any meaning beyond mere delusion is if God exists, since then an infinite computational state would exist, thereby allowing finite minds to endlessly grow in complexity toward infinite perfection (per the Quantum Recurrence Theorem). Only then would one's life-work avoid coming to naught. Only then would what one does now actually matter in the end.
As it turns out, the universe is a machine that will diverge to infinite computing power.
Further, God's existence is a mathematical theorem within standard physics. Standard physics is the known laws of physics, viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics. These aforestated known physical laws have been confirmed by every experiment conducted to date. Hence, the only way to avoid Prof. Tipler's Omega Point Theorem is to reject empirical science. As Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].)
Prof. Tipler's said Omega Point cosmology has been extensively peer-reviewed and published in a number of the world's leading physics and science journals, such as Reports on Progress in Physics (the leading journal of the Institute of Physics, Britain's main professional organization for physicists), Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society (one of the world's leading astrophysics journals), the International Journal of Theoretical Physics (a journal that Nobel Prize in Physics winner Richard Feynman also published in), and Physics Letters, among other journals.
For much more on Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the details on how it uniquely conforms to, and precisely matches, the cosmology described in the New Testament, see my following article, which also addresses the societal implications of the Omega Point cosmology:
* James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, https://archive.org/download/ThePhys...ics-of-God.pdf , https://purl.org/redford/physics-of-god .
As Ayn Rand correctly observed, capitalism is the only moral political system. What many of the collectivists observe is that nature is extraordinarily cruel, and blame human liberty for it. They look to a totalitarian state as Big Mommy, as literally God, hoping that their God will protect them against the horrors of nature. But only societal capital accumulation and technological advancement can do that. Any interference with this process only prolongs the agony. Further, the collectivists empower their God, which is by far the most extreme organization of war, mass-murder, and life-long mass-gang-rape ever known.Quote:
... Is this not where libertarian ideas fall onto your doormat after travelling from Auschwitz via the Gulag Archipelago? Whether God exists or does not exist makes no difference to the poor, but you might want to be more critical of capitalism, which creates poverty, for the benefit of a few rich people.
What makes socialism the most mass-murderous philosophy ever conceived is precisely because it puts all power into the most mass-murderous organization to ever exist, i.e., the state. The liberal solution is to disempower the state, rather than empowering it as the collectivists do.
Below are vital articles concerning the nature of government, of liberty, and the free-market production of defense:
* Prof. Murray N. Rothbard, "The Anatomy of the State", Rampart Journal of Individualist Thought, Vol. 1, No. 2 (Summer 1965), pp. 1-24, https://mises.org/system/tdf/rampart...&type=document , http://webcitation.org/6ZvAbaX8z , http://www.freezepage.com/1447053835DURFWXQOPM . Reprinted in a collection of some of Rothbard's articles, Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature and Other Essays (Washington, DC: Libertarian Review Press, 1974), https://mises.org/sites/default/file...20Essays_2.pdf , http://webcitation.org/6XfwvbslB .
* Murray N. Rothbard, Ch. 1: "Defense Services on the Free Market", pp. 1-9 in id., Power and Market: Government and the Economy (Kansas City: Sheed Andrews and McMeel, Inc., 1977; orig. pub. 1970), https://wayback.archive.org/web/2004...wer&market.pdf , http://webcitation.org/5ve3w5w9a , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/08/28/ro...and-market.pdf , http://www.freezepage.com/1447054194BCBULVTSAX .
* Prof. Hans-Hermann Hoppe, "The Private Production of Defense", Journal of Libertarian Studies, Vol. 14, No. 1 (Winter 1998-1999), pp. 27-52, https://mises.org/sites/default/files/14_1_2_0.pdf , http://webcitation.org/5ve41VasQ .
* Hans-Hermann Hoppe, "Fallacies of the Public Goods Theory and the Production of Security", Journal of Libertarian Studies, Vol. 9, No. 1 (Winter 1989), pp. 27-46, https://mises.org/sites/default/files/9_1_2_0.pdf , http://webcitation.org/5ve485kNf .
* Prof. David D. Friedman, Ch. 29: "Police, Courts, and Laws--on the Market", pp. 114-120 in id., The Machinery of Freedom: Guide to a Radical Capitalism (La Salle, Ill.: Open Court Publishing Co., 1989; orig. pub. 1971), http://daviddfriedman.com/Libertaria...hapter_29.html , http://webcitation.org/5ve4A6KFZ , https://archive.is/I1mt4 .
Concerning the ethics of human rights, the below book is the best book on the subject:
* Murray N. Rothbard, The Ethics of Liberty (New York, NY: New York University Press, 1998; orig. pub. 1982), https://wayback.archive.org/web/2013...ard/ethics.pdf , http://webcitation.org/5ve4GO9l5 , http://www.freezepage.com/1447054928ZHDVKQZWOU , http://megalodon.jp/2015-1109-1645-3...28ZHDVKQZWOU/0 .
If one desires a solid grounding in economics then one can do no better than with the below texts:
* Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Economic Science and the Austrian Method (Auburn, Ala.: Ludwig von Mises Institute, 1995), https://mises.org/sites/default/file...20Method_3.pdf , https://wayback.archive.org/web/2014...books/esam.pdf , http://webcitation.org/63rQDYtj2 .
The above small book by Prof. Hoppe doesn't delve into political theory, but only concerns the methodological basis of economics (i.e., the epistemology of economics). I would recommend that everyone read this short book *first* if they're at all interested in economics. There exists much confusion as to what economics is and what it is not. This book is truly great in elucidating the nature of economics and its epistemic basis. If one were to read no other texts on economics, then this ought to be the economic text that one reads. Plus it doesn't take all that long to read it.
* Murray N. Rothbard, Ch. 17: "Toward a Reconstruction of Utility and Welfare Economics", pp. 224-262 in Mary Sennholz (Ed.), On Freedom and Free Enterprise: Essays in Honor of Ludwig von Mises (Princeton, NJ: D. Van Nostrand Company, Inc., 1956), https://mises.org/sites/default/file...%20Mises_2.pdf , https://wayback.archive.org/web/2015...%20Mises_2.pdf , http://webcitation.org/6Xz9WebJ6 , http://www.freezepage.com/1447055623CLUDAZDSPR . Reprinted in Murray N. Rothbard, The Logic of Action One: Method, Money, and the Austrian School (London, UK: Edward Elgar, 1997), pp. 211-255.
* Murray N. Rothbard, Man, Economy, and State (Auburn, Ala.: Ludwig von Mises Institute, 2nd ed., 2004; orig. pub. 1962), https://mises.org/sites/default/file...20Market_2.pdf , http://webcitation.org/6Xfycj7zV .
* Murray N. Rothbard, Power and Market: Government and the Economy (Kansas City: Sheed Andrews and McMeel, Inc., 1977; orig. pub. 1970), https://wayback.archive.org/web/2004...wer&market.pdf , http://webcitation.org/5ve3w5w9a , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/08/28/ro...and-market.pdf , http://www.freezepage.com/1447054194BCBULVTSAX .
These texts ought to be read in the order listed above. I would also add to the above list the below book:
* Murray N. Rothbard, America's Great Depression (Auburn, Ala.: Ludwig von Mises Institute, 5th ed., 2000; orig. pub. 1963), https://mises.org/sites/default/file...pression_3.pdf , http://webcitation.org/6Xfyn2oXY .
The above book concerns how governments create depressions (i.e., panics; recessions) through credit expansion (i.e., fractional-reserve banking and/or fiat money).
On the matter of politics in relation to God, see my below article, which demonstrates the logically unavoidable anarchism of Jesus Christ's teachings as recorded in the New Testament (in addition to analyzing their context in relation to his actions, to the Tanakh, and to his apostles). It is logically complete on this subject, in the sense of its apodixis.
* James Redford, "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 4, 2011 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2001), doi:10.2139/ssrn.1337761, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761 , https://archive.org/details/JesusIsAnAnarchist , http://theophysics.host56.com/anarchist-jesus.pdf , http://webcitation.org/66AIz2rJw .
See also my below article, which demonstrates the logically unavoidable correctness of the anarcho-capitalist theory of human rights. It doesn't derive an "ought" from an "is"--rather, it derives an "ought" from an "ought": an "ought" everyone must necessarily presuppose in order to even begin to deny it.
* James Redford, "Libertarian Anarchism Is Apodictically Correct", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 15, 2011, doi:10.2139/ssrn.1972733, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1972733 , https://archive.org/download/Liberta...rtarianism.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redfor...rtarianism.pdf , http://webcitation.org/63xyCLjLm .
For how physics allows unlimited progress by civilizations--to literally infinite intelligence and power--see my following article on physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology, which is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE), which is also required by said known physical laws. The Omega Point cosmology has been published and extensively peer-reviewed in leading physics journals.
* James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , https://archive.org/download/ThePhys...ics-of-God.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redfor...ics-of-God.pdf , https://sites.google.com/site/physic...ics-of-God.pdf .
Additionally, in the below resource are six sections which contain very informative videos of Prof. Tipler explaining the Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model TOE. The seventh section therein contains an audio interview of Tipler. I also provide some helpful notes and commentary for some of these videos.
* James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", alt.sci.astro, Message-ID: jghev8tcbv02b6vn3uiq8jmelp7jijluqk@4ax.com , July 30, 2013, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ro/KQWt4KcpMVo , https://archive.is/a04w9 , http://webcitation.org/6IUTAMEyS . The plain text of this post is available at: TXT, 42423 bytes, MD5: b199e867e42d54b2b8bf6adcb4127761, http://ge.tt/3lOTVbp , http://webcitation.org/6WGd90MBa , https://archive.is/cVRmc .
What you are proposing is a Christian heresy. Paul appealed to reason when he wrote in Romans 1:19,20 that an understanding of the natural world leads to knowledge of God (NKJV):Quote:
You're making an assumption which has never been proven. You're behaving extremely unscientifically.
Yet on the contrary, miracles are perfectly allowed within standard physics. That is, via using baryon annihilation, and its inverse, by way of electroweak quantum tunneling (which is allowed in the Standard Model of particle physics, as baryon number minus lepton number, B - L, is conserved) caused via the Principle of Least Action by the physical requirement that the Omega Point final cosmological singularity exists. If the miracles of Jesus Christ were necessary in order for the universe to evolve into the Omega Point, and if the known laws of physics are correct, then the probability of those miracles occurring is certain.
--Arguing that there is a scientific necessity in miracles in fact misses the crucial point: they could only have taken place because Jesus was the 'Son of God' or 'God made flesh' in other words, it is precisely because the miracles of Jesus are beyond scientific explanation that they are real to his believers. You are not behaving scientifically, because to do so would expose Jesus as a fraud. How many electrotweaks does it take to transform water in wine, to make the blind see, the dead to rise up and walk?
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because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, ...
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Traditional Christian theology has maintained that God never violates natural law, as God, in His omniscience, knew in the beginning all that He wanted to achieve and so, in His omnipotence, He formed the laws of physics in order to achieve His goal. The idea that God would violate His own laws would mean that God is not omniscient.
For much more on this, see my following article:
* James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, https://archive.org/download/ThePhys...ics-of-God.pdf , https://purl.org/redford/physics-of-god .
You are behaving highly unscientifically and irrationally, again. You are stating as a fact something that has never been demonstrated. Moreover, something for which it is quite easy to demonstrate does exist.Quote:
George W. Bush is an elite, dark occultist, not a Christian even in his own mind.
--How do you know, did you ask him?
It is true that the highest members of the globalist oligarchy are Satanists.
--It is not true. And there is no evidence to show it, just as there is no such thing as Satan.
Of course Satan exists. Satan is the set of all evil. The set of all evil certainly exists.
Moreover, your position seems to be that God does not exist. Yet most people worship God. Thus, according to you, there is no connection between a thing's existence and people worshiping that thing.
Further, certainly demons exist. What a demon is in actuality is a particular type of computer-program operating on the wet-computer of the human brain. Demons are utterly real, but they exist in the exact same ontological manner which the human mind exists, as the human mind is itself a particular type of computer-program operating on the wet-computer of the human brain. The demons are the destructive subsets of the human mind. Science has identified the spiritual realm, and it is the living brain--the living human brain in particular, since that brain is the most complex at present. The spiritual realm exists!
What Satanism is is the religion of the demons, and they certainly exist. Socialism is the political aspect of Satanism. That is, socialism is the political philosophy of the demons.
It is true that the highest members of the globalist oligarchy are Satanists. On the one hand, elite Satanism is an intelligence operation run by the Western governments in order to compromise politicians, businessmen and others in important control-sectors of society, thus making them controllable due to the dirt held on them. On the other hand, for the true believers, it functions as a justification for their psychopathic actions, as elite Satanism is a form of spiritual Social Darwinism: the more ruthless and cruel they are the more evolved they are spiritually, since they have advanced beyond such weak notions as pity and empathy which are held by the common masses, i.e., nothing is morally out of bounds for them, and indeed to take pleasure another's suffering--particularly pain which oneself has deliberately inflicted--is evidence of one's more enlightened nature, since one has what it takes to rule and dominate others.
For those who are interested in extensive scholarly documentation regarding elite Satanism and its practice by the globalist oligarchy, see under the heading "The New World Order: Government's Attempt at Autoapotheosis" on pp. 87-98 of my following article, being sure to read the footnotes, since much of the information on this is contained within said footnotes:
* James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, https://archive.org/download/ThePhys...ics-of-God.pdf , https://purl.org/redford/physics-of-god .
See also my following article on the Jaynesian gods of old, i.e., the demons:
* James Redford, "Societal Sadomasochism", Daily Anarchist Forum, May 29, 2018, https://megalodon.jp/2018-0610-0734-...p?topic=3289.0 , https://archive.is/QalJT , https://web.archive.org/web/20180609...p?topic=3289.0 .