Re: Hamdan vs Rumsfeld USSC ( YES ! )
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Originally Posted by White_Male_Canada
So, let`s add that to the pile too. We have tons of yellow cake uranium at Al-Tuwaitha,over 500 containers of Sarin and Mustard gas ( to date and a violation of 1441) , over 1.5 tons of highly enriched uranium,we have documented evidence from Saddam`s own IIS that prove he trained aproximately 7000 foreign terrorists,we know Saddam harboured terrorists fleeing from Afghanistan (Zarqawi), Ramsy Yosef was given an Iraqi passport when he and his gang entered the USA to detonate a truck bomb in the parking of the WTC ,etc,etc.
The research facility at Tuwaitha held 1.8 tons of low-enriched uranium and several tons of natural and depleted uranium. Until March 2003, it was under seal and regularly inspected by the IAEA. It was not found, because it was not hidden.
500+ artillery shells containing sarin and mustard gas were found were found by U.S. Army troops buried in the desert near the Iranian border. The declassified intelligence report documenting the discovery of these munitions speculates that they were abandoned by Iraqi troops redeploying after the end of the Iran-Iraq war in August 1988. There is no evidence that the Hussein regime maintained any record of the locations of these munitions. The shells were in a highly degraded state, and as WMD expert David Kay has pointed out, the gas was not weaponizable at this stage. Mustard gas does not have a shelf life of 100 years.
No one has found 1.5 tons of highly enriched uranium in Iraq.
There is no documentary evidence that Iraq's IIS trained foreign fighters at the Salman Pak research facility. Two Iraqi intelligence defectors have alleged that 50 to 60 foreign fighters at a time were put through a six-month training course at Salman Pak. These allegations have not yet been verified.
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was involved wih a miltant anti-Kurdish group called Ansar al-Islam, which maintained training facilities in northeastern Iraq, near the Iranian border. Ansar controlled several villages north of the 36th parallel in an area that was not under the direct control of the Hussein government, due to Operation Northern Watch. In fact, Ansar gained control of this territory under Iranian artillery support. A 2004 CIA report stated, "There’s no conclusive evidence the Saddam Hussein regime had harbored Zarqawi."
On September 1, 1992, after leaving the Khaldan training camp in Afghanistan, Ramzi Ahmed Yousef entered the United States with a false Iraqi passport. Several months later, Yousef initiated the first World Trade Center attack. Yousef is a Pakistani born in Kuwait, and there is no evidence that he has ever entered Iraq.
Re: Hamdan vs Rumsfeld USSC ( YES ! )
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Originally Posted by thombergeron
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Originally Posted by White_Male_Canada
So, let`s add that to the pile too. We have tons of yellow cake uranium at Al-Tuwaitha,over 500 containers of Sarin and Mustard gas ( to date and a violation of 1441) , over 1.5 tons of highly enriched uranium,we have documented evidence from Saddam`s own IIS that prove he trained aproximately 7000 foreign terrorists,we know Saddam harboured terrorists fleeing from Afghanistan (Zarqawi), Ramsy Yosef was given an Iraqi passport when he and his gang entered the USA to detonate a truck bomb in the parking of the WTC ,etc,etc.
The research facility at Tuwaitha held 1.8 tons of low-enriched uranium and several tons of natural and depleted uranium. Until March 2003, it was under seal and regularly inspected by the IAEA. It was not found, because it was not hidden.
500+ artillery shells containing sarin and mustard gas were found were found by U.S. Army troops buried in the desert near the Iranian border. The declassified intelligence report documenting the discovery of these munitions speculates that they were abandoned by Iraqi troops redeploying after the end of the Iran-Iraq war in August 1988. There is no evidence that the Hussein regime maintained any record of the locations of these munitions. The shells were in a highly degraded state, and as WMD expert David Kay has pointed out, the gas was not weaponizable at this stage. Mustard gas does not have a shelf life of 100 years.
No one has found 1.5 tons of highly enriched uranium in Iraq.
There is no documentary evidence that Iraq's IIS trained foreign fighters at the Salman Pak research facility. Two Iraqi intelligence defectors have alleged that 50 to 60 foreign fighters at a time were put through a six-month training course at Salman Pak. These allegations have not yet been verified.
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was involved wih a miltant anti-Kurdish group called Ansar al-Islam, which maintained training facilities in northeastern Iraq, near the Iranian border. Ansar controlled several villages north of the 36th parallel in an area that was not under the direct control of the Hussein government, due to Operation Northern Watch. In fact, Ansar gained control of this territory under Iranian artillery support. A 2004 CIA report stated, "There’s no conclusive evidence the Saddam Hussein regime had harbored Zarqawi."
On September 1, 1992, after leaving the Khaldan training camp in Afghanistan, Ramzi Ahmed Yousef entered the United States with a false Iraqi passport. Several months later, Yousef initiated the first World Trade Center attack. Yousef is a Pakistani born in Kuwait, and there is no evidence that he has ever entered Iraq.
Yellow cake uranium is a wmd,period. Ivan Oelrich, a physicist at the Federation of American Scientists, told the Associated Press at the time that the low-enriched uranium stockpile could have produced enough highly enriched uranium to make a single nuclear bomb.
Binary Sarin shells have an indefinite shelf life:
The most interesting discovery has been a 152mm binary Sarin artillery projectile—containing a 40 percent concentration of Sarin—which insurgents attempted to use as an Improvised Explosive Device (IED). The existence of this binary weapon not only raises questions about the number of viable chemical weapons remaining in Iraq and raises the possibility that a larger number of binary, long-lasting chemical weapons still exist. cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/chap5_annxF.html
There are liretally millions of pages of documentary evidence . Document ISGP-2003-00028868 details IIS plans to train non Iraqi Foreign Arab Terrorists in February 2003 to help the Iraqis in their war against the coalition forces. Document ISGQ-2004-00060580 is a memo that contains a direct order form Saddam Hussein in the middle of the war asking to treat the Arab Feedayeen i.e. the non Iraqi Foreign Arab Terrorists as equal as the Iraqi soldier in salary and benefits and not just any soldier but like those in the Special Forces.http://70.168.46.200/ Saddam direct connection with the Taliban/70.168.46.200/released/03-22-06/ISGP-2003-00014127.pdf,etc,etc.
Zarqawi was treated in a Baghdad hospital at the beset of the Hussiens.http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/05/spr...alqaeda.links/
" General Intelligence Department, which generally earns high marks for efficiency—had been trailing him ever since he left Jordanian soil for Afghanistan, and then Afghan soil for Iraq. It is from this source that we know that Zarqawi was in Baghdad at least as early as June 2002, almost a year before the invasion. Indeed, as the Senate intelligence committee report has confirmed, it was in that month that the G.I.D. contacted the Saddam Hussein regime to "inform" the Iraqis that this very dangerous fellow was on their territory. Given the absolute police-state condition of Iraq at that time, it is in any case impossible to believe that such a person was in town, so to speak, incognito." http://img.slate.com/id/2143611/
Yousef was travelling on a "clean" Iraqi passport. The IIS doesn`t hand those out to any tom dick or harry. " The two ringleaders both had connections to Iraq. The mastermind, Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, entered the U.S. on an Iraqi passport and was known to his associates as "Rashid the Iraqi." It was he who persuaded the bombers to make their target the World Trade Center. The other man, Abdul Rahman Yasin, fled to Baghdad, where, ABC News reported in 1994, he had been put on the government payroll. He is believed to be still at large in Iraq. "The majority of senior law-enforcement officers in New York believe that Iraq was involved," Jim Fox, who ran the FBI's investigation of the World Trade Center bombing" A co-conspirator boogying to Baghdad. Wall Street Journal OnlineMonday, September 24, 2001 12:01
Ain`t this November gonna be sweet 8)