Tgirls calling guys "fags" for liking them.

What is up with t-girls calling guys fags for being into them? That makes no sense to me at all. I just saw a video of one of my favorite t-girls chilling with some friends, joking, hanging out, etc. The next thing I know, she says something that catches me by suprise. She was talking to another TS and said "Give these fags what they want".

Don't get me wrong, I am not one of these sensitive guys who gets offended by everything. Nor am I sensitive about my sexual preference. I like girl girls and t-girls. I am attracted to that which is or appears to be a woman. Does that make me a fag? Who the fuck cares! I like what I like. Again, it just seems a little backwards to me that a TS would call a guy a fag for liking her. They live their lives as women and in a lot of cases, you wouldn't know that they were born as a male.

I have had an interest in shemales for about 8 years. I only recently joined this board though. I read a guys post not too long ago who mentioned something about t-girls calling guys fags for liking them and was like, WTF?! Anyway, maybe this is a known or common thing, but it is new to me.

A lot of t-girls really viscerally dislike their male parts (maybe that's tautological). To the extent that an admirer likes their male parts, or even likes them while aware of their male parts, it becomes a reflection of something that disgusts the girl. It's a little confusing because porn stars act in a different way for money. But in unguarded moments, you'll see many refer to the porn act as a "fantasy".

There have been days in the past when this forum seemed to be nothing but t-girls calling their admirers "fags".

It really all comes down to how people deal with other people's labels, and it's up to the individual being addressed by that label, to accept it as true, or to simply ignore it.

By those girl's logic of thinking that their admirers/fans/lovers/friends are 'fags' for liking them, then by that same logic, they should have no problem and should accept being called by male pronouns and their male name.

If she(only using the term 'her' to make a point) indeed considers himself a 'man' (regardless of her self appointed female name, breasts/surgeries/lifestyle and passability), and any man that likes/loves/admires him any way a 'fag', then what is the point of the charade of using a female name like: insert any traditionally female name, then? To sound/look/seem more feminine? By her own logic, not even the name can make her a woman.

The only people fooling themselves are girls that think like that, and guys for accepting or getting offended being called a 'fag'.


There is nothing wrong with identifying with feminine attire, thought process, habits, and living full time like that, without the girl considering herself a 'woman or female'.

Also, there is nothing wrong, , with identifying with feminine attire, thought process, habits, and living full time like that, and for her to consider herself a woman.

I've known many really passable, unclockable girls, that when asked, "do you identify as female?"
They would answer, "no, i am a man, baby!"

I've know as many passable girls, that say they were born, with the mindset of a girl/woman, and it was only the body that did not correspond with their mind. to the same question , they would answer, "I identify as, and AM a woman".

If she(the girl) identifies as a man, any man with her, can be considered homosexual (unless he is in to women as well, then he is bisexual)

If she (the girl) identifies herself as a woman, any man with her can be considered heterosexual (unless he is in to men as well, then he is bisexual)

post said video

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Originally Posted by scroller

A lot of t-girls really viscerally dislike their male parts (maybe that's tautological). To the extent that an admirer likes their male parts, or even likes them while aware of their male parts, it becomes a reflection of something that disgusts the girl. It's a little confusing because porn stars act in a different way for money. But in unguarded moments, you'll see many refer to the porn act as a "fantasy".

There have been days in the past when this forum seemed to be nothing but t-girls calling their admirers "fags".

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Oh really?? Well, to those t-girls who don't like that males like them, I have to ask, what the f*ck do you want?? You talk in a negative manner about someone like me who sees your beauty and have the nerve to call me a fag. So who are your friends? A lot of girl girls will never view you as a true woman, and the same is true with a lot of men. Yet, we men who find you attractive become the target for your insults due to your own self-hate. Now, I am not talking to or about all transsexuals here. Again, I am new to this board and am trying to understand why any TS would call a guy who finds them to be beautiful a fag. I guess those TS's want to find a guy who only likes girl girls to one day notice them and then just pretend like they have no penis, or that they have periods and shit like that. LOL! You can go f*ck yourselves, quite literally. Haha! And we, the admirers are the ones who are confused???

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Originally Posted by Silcc69

post said video

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I would post it, but this particular TS is a member on this board, though she hasn't posted in a LONG time, to my knowledge. I don't want to offend anyone, I am just trying to get a logical answer to such an illogical statement, if that even makes sense. Not to mention that I would still one day like to bang this particular lady, only with a vengance now, Hahaha!

MWaHaaHAAA!!! Take this bitches!!! :jerkoff

Somebody is opening a hornet's nest!!!:hide-1::hide-1::whistle:

Some of the masochistic bottoms like it and they get off on being abused with these slurs. Dupre used to use it about every other word on this forum.

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Originally Posted by CORVETTEDUDE

Somebody is opening a hornet's nest!!!:hide-1::hide-1::whistle:

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Yep. :dancing: By the way, how ya doin', neighbor? Pensacola huh? I'm not far from you.

i think it's about respect ,these girls have never been shown a lot of respect in their lives so they do not give a lot of respect out

seems counterproductive to any cause but yea some people like it. I'm all for free speech no matter who it offends though. There's words that get people more hyped then say genocide in another country. The fight against bad is a distraction from real problems

Are we back on this again???

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Originally Posted by phobun

Dupre used to use it about every other word on this forum.

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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh! *smfh

Get a life, you limp-wristed moaner.

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Originally Posted by Paladin

Are we back on this again???

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Yeah, apparently we are. Well, this is my first time being on it. And your post was both insightful and intellectual. Thank you for your contribution.

Hmm, now I feel bad that I answered. Next time I'll check the Join date. Sorry, all.

If they made a Hungry Man version, I'm sure Dino would be all over these fags... in gravy, baby. :dancing:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_x7L3SHdRI4...00/faggots.jpg

~BB~

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Originally Posted by LovinThaTSLadiez

Yeah, apparently we are. Well, this is my first time being on it. And your post was both insightful and intellectual. Thank you for your contribution.

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Well, it might be your first time posting about it, but for ppl that have been on here a while it gets old seeing this same type of thread every few weeks. Not a slight toward you, just pointing out that the topic has been talked about ad nauseam and you'll never really get a consensus about it. A few other gems that continually pop up would be:

Why do some men like to bottom?
Is it gay to bottom?
It is gay to like trannies?
I'm straight because I top
Are TS that top really just gay men?
Would you date a TS?

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Originally Posted by NYBURBS

Well, it might be your first time posting about it, but for ppl that have been on here a while it gets old seeing this same type of thread every few weeks. Not a slight toward you, just pointing out that the topic has been talked about ad nauseam and you'll never really get a consensus about it.

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... such is the real faggotry of HA. :geek:

~BB~

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh! *smfh

Get a life, you limp-wristed moaner.

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HEHE hi nicole x

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Originally Posted by LovinThaTSLadiez

I would post it, but this particular TS is a member on this board, though she hasn't posted in a LONG time, to my knowledge. I don't want to offend anyone, I am just trying to get a logical answer to such an illogical statement, if that even makes sense. Not to mention that I would still one day like to bang this particular lady, only with a vengance now, Hahaha!

MWaHaaHAAA!!! Take this bitches!!! :jerkoff

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Well why mention it then? If you are going to call attention to somebody but not show the video what's the point then.

Oh a tired, tired debate. Yep - some escorts hate guys who want to be passive. What are you going to do about it? As someone said earlier the thing many hate about themselves is that which many men crave and which many of these girls are escorting and hoarding money so they can loose it. They want to be seen as girls and the guys want to see them as girls with dicks. Can't really be resolved, can it. So go with the flow.....

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Originally Posted by LovinThaTSLadiez

Oh really?? Well, to those t-girls who don't like that males like them, I have to ask, what the f*ck do you want?? You talk in a negative manner about someone like me who sees your beauty and have the nerve to call me a fag. So who are your friends? A lot of girl girls will never view you as a true woman, and the same is true with a lot of men. Yet, we men who find you attractive become the target for your insults due to your own self-hate. Now, I am not talking to or about all transsexuals here. Again, I am new to this board and am trying to understand why any TS would call a guy who finds them to be beautiful a fag. I guess those TS's want to find a guy who only likes girl girls to one day notice them and then just pretend like they have no penis, or that they have periods and shit like that. LOL! You can go f*ck yourselves, quite literally. Haha! And we, the admirers are the ones who are confused???

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Its cause of this bitchy attitude that tgirls call some guys fags...

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Originally Posted by Silcc69

Well why mention it then? If you are going to call attention to somebody but not show the video what's the point then.

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Because the video itself is not important. I wasn't calling attention to anyone, only the comment that was made. Did I mention any names? No, I didn't. Must you see it to believe me?

Just avoid them. In real life you can walk away. And on here the ignore function is very useful.

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

Its cause of this bitchy attitude that tgirls call some guys fags...

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Yeah, except for not at all. My so-called "bitchy attitide" really makes a difference to everyone, right? I am so important. Wow, I didn't realize just what a difference I made to the entire transsexual community. I'm sorry. All sarcasm aside, I tend to agree with the poster who said that a lot of TS's hate their male part and don't like when men are attracted to it. That makes a lot more sense to me. My "bitchy attitude" was nothing more than a little sarcasm directed to the idea that someone would call someone else a fag for being attracted to their womanly figure, face, voice, etc.

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Originally Posted by NYBURBS

Well, it might be your first time posting about it, but for ppl that have been on here a while it gets old seeing this same type of thread every few weeks. Not a slight toward you, just pointing out that the topic has been talked about ad nauseam and you'll never really get a consensus about it. A few other gems that continually pop up would be:

Why do some men like to bottom?
Is it gay to bottom?
It is gay to like trannies?
I'm straight because I top
Are TS that top really just gay men?
Would you date a TS?

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I understand that people get tired of seeing the same old topics, but they aren't obligated to comment, now are they? They insist on wasting their time being the "senior posters" instead of just passing us newbies on by.

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Originally Posted by LovinThaTSLadiez

Yeah, except for not at all. My so-called "bitchy attitide" really makes a difference to everyone, right? I am so important. Wow, I didn't realize just what a difference I made to the entire transsexual community. I'm sorry. All sarcasm aside, I tend to agree with the poster who said that a lot of TS's hate their male part and don't like when men are attracted to it. That makes a lot more sense to me. My "bitchy attitude" was nothing more than a little sarcasm directed to the idea that someone would call someone else a fag for being attracted to their womanly figure, face, voice, etc.

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Oh but that is something else entirely then...
You know, i am known here to be very opiniated lol

But in reality i simply drop all labels when it comes to guys and myself, i also drop the ts label btw!!!!(coz i honestly dislike and cannot identify with most of them)
.i am very aware though i am not exactly a girl but also that i feel like one...
If it works with a guy really depends on a lot of factors...
A) is he open about dating me
B) does he make me feel like the woman i am
C) does he appreciate my femininity in character/personality
D) he cannot be a bottom cause i wont be able to please him
E) do we match on a mental/emotional level

The reason i sometimes call guys gay, or having a gay attutide coz by some guys we are reduced to our male parts and are expected to behave like men in bed,...this crosses my limits and i have a hard time not thinking they are gay on some level...

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Originally Posted by Prospero

Oh a tired, tired debate. Yep - some escorts hate guys who want to be passive. What are you going to do about it? As someone said earlier the thing many hate about themselves is that which many men crave and which many of these girls are escorting and hoarding money so they can loose it. They want to be seen as girls and the guys want to see them as girls with dicks. Can't really be resolved, can it. So go with the flow.....

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It's no debate, at least not from me. Just a question, and apparently a tired one. I agree with you completely and you said it well. A lot of the people who are somewhat attacking me for my thread or sarcasm aren't really taking into account that I am new here and have never previously been a member to a board like this. The sarcasm part, well that is just me. I have never even been with a t-girl before, but I do know that I am attracted to them.

When the ladies get all pissy they just lash out at whoever. They feel shitty and so they want to get in an argument and calling TS admirers fags is like shooting fish in a barrel. It's like real life trolling. So when they call you a fag take it with a grain of salt.

But, what's the big deal if they call you a fag? Does it really mean you are a homo? Have they actually challenged your sexuality?

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

Oh but that is something else entirely then...
You know, i am known here to be very opiniated lol

But in reality i simply drop all labels when it comes to guys and myself, i also drop the ts label btw!!!!
.i am very aware though i am not exactly a girl but also that i feel like one...
If it works with a guy really depends on a lot of factors...
A) he is open about dating me
B) does he make me feel like the woman i am
C) does he appreciate my femininity in character/personality
D) he cannot be a bottom cause i wont be able to please him

The reason i sometimes call guys gay, or having a gay attutide coz by some guys we are reduced to our male parts and are expected to behave like men in bed,...this crosses my limits and i have a hard time not thinking they are gay on some level...

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True indeed. I understand what you are saying. I guess there are so many different types of men who are attracted to t-girls, many of which have different sexual needs. You're right, that is a different topic entirely. Thanks for shedding some light.

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Originally Posted by dderek123

When the ladies get all pissy they just lash out at whoever. They feel shitty and so they want to get in an argument and calling TS admirers fags is like shooting fish in a barrel. It's like real life trolling. So when they call you a fag take it with a grain of salt.

But, what's the big deal if they call you a fag? Does it really mean you are a homo? Have they actually challenged your sexuality?

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You're right. And no, them calling me whatever doesn't make me whatever. That is what I was saying in my opening post. This isn't even about me, I was just trying to understand the comment. No one actually called me anything. And I have dealt with bitchy women all my life. It is a trial, but one that can be won if dealt with in the proper manner. :hide-1:

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Originally Posted by LovinThaTSLadiez

You're right. And no, them calling me whatever doesn't make me whatever. That is what I was saying in my opening post. This isn't even about me, I was just trying to understand the comment. No one actually called me anything.

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Oh, i see. Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by LovinThaTSLadiez

And I have dealt with bitchy women all my life. It is a trial, but one that can be won if dealt with in the proper manner. :hide-1:

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I agree with you. I find dealing with the emotions that they're expressing and identifying their source to be helpful. It's useless to reason with a bitchy woman especially one that is upset.

Hey guys its not cause of her period or hormones that they might call you fag...

We are guys right? So expect us to be a little more intelligent then that :p

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Originally Posted by russtafa

i think it's about respect ,these girls have never been shown a lot of respect in their lives so they do not give a lot of respect out

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If this is it, then those girls don't understand how respect works.

You need some measure of self respect if you expect others to respect you, and you always reap what you sow...

(if this topic is so tired and boring to a lot of you guys, why are you wasting your time reading and replying to it - if you're reading it you're still interested on some level, and if you're just here to say how tedious this topic is then you need to get yourself a life :) )

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Originally Posted by loveboof

If this is it, then those girls don't understand how respect works.

You need some measure of self respect if you expect others to respect you, and you always reap what you sow...

(if this topic is so tired and boring to a lot of you guys, why are you wasting your time reading and replying to it - if you're reading it you're still interested on some level, and if you're just here to say how tedious this topic is then you need to get yourself a life :) )

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Bravo! Well said and I agree on all points.

I think this question could be solved mathematically.

If 1+3= 4 and 2X3=6, then guys + tgirls = gay. See, that was solved mathematically.

Here's my take, might not be correct but Eh? I gave it a shot.

1-Maybe these guys actually are gay?
2- Tgirls know what pisses guys who like them off so they use the term gay to piss them off. Why do they want to piss them off? Quite a few tgirls would like to live a sort of decent life but quite a few are forced(?) into the sex trade side of life. As for myself, the guys I met in the past were on the evil side of life. They were abusive cause they knew I had very little choice in life, so they took that to their advantage. And some of them were men with means, they had money. If I knew that calling them fags would hurt their precious feelings I would have called them fags and maybe words that are worse. Maybe some tgirls had a rough time of it and they strike out at anyone, even guys who might be nice. Because labeling someone any type of label they don't like is not right and guys gotta understand that it's just words and not to get too upset by words, physical abuse can be much worse than some words.

Also quite a few of these guys wanted me to hide from others, what I mean is, I was OK to be in the bedroom with them but not at a restaurant. I was OK going to a sex bar/club but not for a walk in the park. While yes, they did give me gifts for being with them, I also wanted a companion, someone to hold my hand but for the most part they treated me like a leper,, I should stay in my colony till they came over. So to those types of guys I would gladly insult them by calling them fags,, cause I am a different person than I was awhile back, I don't take shit anymore.

I only write the above for my life experience, I don't speak for all tgirls or for anyone else for that matter.

So for me it would be a personal anger to call someone a nasty name.
I usually don't,, I have never called anyone on this forum fag or gay,, it's just guys from my past i would most certainly call fags, cause they are.

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Originally Posted by loveboof

If this is it, then those girls don't understand how respect works.

You need some measure of self respect if you expect others to respect you, and you always reap what you sow...

(if this topic is so tired and boring to a lot of you guys, why are you wasting your time reading and replying to it - if you're reading it you're still interested on some level, and if you're just here to say how tedious this topic is then you need to get yourself a life :) )

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For some girls self respect is contrary to messing around with guys that like them because of their genitals only, and like yvonne said already, dont treat us like lepers outside of the bedroom...

If you want respect, you have to earn it

Most guys dont even see how disrespectfull they are treating tgirls and then are suddenly shocked we dont treat them right...coz what right do we have to stand up for ourselves right, the world does not respect us, we should be glad someone even gives us the time of day...

Well ill tell you something..its a 1000 times better to pet a dog then have such a man...
I dont need a man, if that means i will be lonely, so be it

This is an interesting topic and though it seems to have been posted on here ad nauseam, I think as long as there's new members coming on this question will always come up. I have heard this a few times myself from some of the girls my friend used to hang with. I've mentioned this before on here and that is, sterotypes don't work. I'm surprised to see so many girls on here with such vile mouths(written/spoken) displaying such hatred towards those who like them. If you want respect in this world you get what you dish out. So you had a bad life, that's not my fault, you need to get your houses in order, get therpy, get respect for yourselves and then respect for others. Treat those who care for you good and those who don't, ditch. Anything else you're destroying your life. Reality is these guys like t-girls many because most of you look like models, pornstars most of the time, unlike the average woman who looks plain. Maybe they were secretly gay or bi, or are just attracted to you girls, who knows and who cares. What really matters is how they treat you, how they love you(not about sex) and mutual respect for each other.

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Originally Posted by Yvonne183

1-Maybe these guys actually are gay?

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Thats the first thing i thought after reading the first post of this thread.

Either way i think people shouldnt take it so seriously

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Originally Posted by LovinThaTSLadiez

Yep. :dancing: By the way, how ya doin', neighbor? Pensacola huh? I'm not far from you.

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Define..."not far,":shrug