Of course he won, as predicted by anyone who actually knows anything about boxing. Who's surprised by that? Not THIS guy! 8)
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Of course he won, as predicted by anyone who actually knows anything about boxing. Who's surprised by that? Not THIS guy! 8)
stfu :cry
'Lord Nelson! Lord Beaverbrook! Sir Winston Churchill! Sir Anthony Eden! Clement Attlee! Henry Cooper! Lady Diana! Bernard Manning, Maggie Thatcher - can you hear me, Night Rider! Your boys took one hell of a beating! Your boy took one hell of a beating!
it was a close fight....floyd was landing the better punches but Ricky had him worriedQuote:
Originally Posted by timxxx
thats the best floyd has fought in his career, he was class
the ref was a disgrace but it probably didn't effect the outcome
mods ban me please :cryQuote:
Originally Posted by M77
Yeah... And at the end of whatever it was you said, Hatton still lost. Talk your way outta that one, friend. :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Night Rider
sucks i wantd hatton to shut mayweather up...oh well...someone will come along and do so...it happened to roy jones.
to tell the truth i watch hatton fight he not that great of a fighter and another thing he dont' have the punching power to beat mayweather. I'm a person that watch boxing and i thought it was pretty funny when i heard that they was going to fight. Another thing i don't see why people don't like mayweather he 's like new age ALI to me. If yu liked Ali talking smack then why not mayweather
Of course he lost, I'm not delusional. I'll honour the bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ347
But the ref deducted a point for nothing and repeatidly broke up the fight.
That being said Floyd was the better fighter but he even said himself Hatton put up a great fight.
because Ali was funny, Mayweather's just a wankerQuote:
Originally Posted by soulRipp
Don't forget people didn't like Ali at first, most people(white people) watched to see him lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by soulRipp
I'm still trying to figure out why anyone would bet on Hatton in the first place... as soulRipp said, he doesn't have the power to beat Mayweather, nor does he have much of anything else he'd need to accomplish that feat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Night Rider
But about the Mayweather being the new age Ali thing... Not at all. Ali stood for certain principles; Floyd's just boxing's version of 50 Cent. Nowhere near as iconic, nowhere near as significant, nowhere near as great. Please, don't sully Ali's reputation by associating him with Floyd... it's an unforgivable insult to the man and all that he stood for, in a time when taking the positions he did could have well gotten him killed, and did get him banned from boxing for several years while he was yet in his prime. What sacrifices has Floyd made? Exactly... Let's not confuse "great" with "grate".
Fair point but Hatton put up a really good fight considering he's a light-welterweight. They had him ahead on points until he got that point deducted for no apparant reason. Then he forced the issue and got caught out. Mayweather showed his class in round 9 and 10 and he's the best fighter on the planet. I just thought Hatton's style would be more of a problem to Mayweather. Hatton nearly had him down in the first round so it could easily have been a different story. Good value for money anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ347
OK I eat my words, Mayweather was just too good. The ref was a twat but Mayweather's defense does seem to be unbeatable!
I actually feel quite sick about Ricky getting knocked out but he lost to the better fighter, not the better man, but the better fighter!
I've never felt so bad for a fighter getting KO'd..Quote:
Originally Posted by lust4ts
He did himself proud anyway.
I know man, but it hurts, but Mayweather is a great fighter and least he payed Ricky respect at the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Night Rider
I think the occasion got to him and he lost his game plan, it's a shame but yeah, we still love him!
The ref did his best to disrupt his gameplan, it was one of the worst refereeing performances I've seen, if not the worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by lust4ts
The first few rounds he was breaking up the fight every few secs because he knew Hatton fights on the inside. Mayweather was brilliant but the ref just left a few doubts in peoples minds, of what might have happened if it was handled properly.
Yep, but Ricky totally abandoned the body attack, and in all honesty he was picked off from the second round. He was never accurate enough. Like billy said maybe he's just not natural enough at that weight!Quote:
Originally Posted by Night Rider
I agree, he's not a natural at that wait at all. He struggled with Collazo yet he still stepped up a weight again and fought the best fighter in the world in his own backyard. The guys got balls of steel, did you see the way he kept coming at Mayweather after taking seriosly heavey duty punches. His problem is he's no defense.
Here we go,typical bitter blue excuses,excuses, Hatton's mum could have been the ref,it would have made no difference to the outcome of the fight.Hatton didn't lose because of a gameplan,Hatton was simply outclassed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Night Rider
Mayweather may be asshole but he's a all time great.
they aren't excuses, they're facts....the ref was a wanker and influenced the fight
but take nothing away from Mayweather, he could have fought in any era
Eh well as much as I dislike Floyd, I had an equal distaste for Hatton going into the fight. Like mentioned earlier, it was almost a laugh to hear of the fight cause I never saw anything special in Hatton(skill wise) and no matter what some may say, he was given that Collazo fight so what could we really expect him to do with Floyd?
That being said, kill the "Floyd is an all time great" jazz. Definitely talented but definitely not as good as some regard him to be...his opposition makes him appear to be greater than he actually is.
He's also a jackass...new age Ali? At Ali's worst, he still retained some semblance of charm. Floyd on the other hand is just boastfully obnoxious.
Your right Timxxx, that is why Joe Frazier had so much support among whites, when they fought. Bryant Gumbel of all people spoke about how Joe Frazier was viciously maligned and mocked by Ali before the fight, but more tragically abandoned by most of his white fanbase after the fight. They rooted for Joe Frazier, only because they wanted to see this arrogant, shyt talking negro get put in his place and if a white man couldn't do it, than anybody would suffice. Another brother that was deluded into thinking he was loved by his white fans was Floyd Patterson. He was punished by Ali, for mockingly calling him "Cassius Clay" after his conversion to Islam during pre-fight press conferences. These types of remarks, along with the fact Floyd Patterson took absolutely no stance on the Civil Rights Movement and the systemic racism faced by people who looked him, made him the darling of white America leading up to that fight. Thankfully, Ali beat this Uncle Tom like he stole something, while yelling "Say my name". Nobody likes a trash talker, but a black man who trash talks, doesn't "shuck and jive" and can back it up, really gets under the skin of many whites, who feel he/she should be "lucky" they have become rich and famous, therefore humble and contrite. Whether it be Barry Bonds, Michael Vick or Stephon Marbury, there seems to be a general feeling of delight about their fall from grace, in the mainstream press. I'm not saying white athletes don't face the vultures when they fuck up, but it's seems to be intensified when it's a black man, especially a hip-hop looking (Vick) or non-apologetic one (Bonds).Quote:
Originally Posted by timxxx
By the way Night Rider, weren't you in the forum about Mimi Plastique trying to defend her "I'm Caucasian" nonsense from EROS. I believe you said it doesn't matter repeatedly, yet you feel the need to root for the Irishman. If race or ethnicity doesn't matter, why click up and root for Ricky Hatten. That's why I feel all these "race doesn't matter" or "I don't see color" people are full of shyt and if you let them talk long enough you'll start to smell it.
In any event, Hatten is a blue-collar fighter who has done everything in his power to maximize his boxing ability and I really respect that type of work ethic. Unfortunately, he has a modicum of the natural boxing talent Floyd Mayweather Jr. has, as well as the fact Floyd is known for being a really hard trainer also. So with that said, unless Hatten hit Floyd with a lucky punch and really hurt him bad (which happens all the time in boxing) he was bound to lose. Boxing is in Floyd's blood and Hatten just could stand the reign.
She didn't say she was caucasian she said that's what eros selected for her, and it's neither yours nor my business. I defended her because she admitted even before that thread that she was proud of her white and her black side. Then people try and make a big deal out of it like it's their business.Quote:
Originally Posted by beatmaker
What came out of your mouth there was utter bullshit because half of America was rooting for Hatton. Do you honestly think any Brits were rooting for Mayweather? Why? Because he's a fucking asshole, nothing to do with race. To me you seem slightly racist in your post but that's just my opinion. I don't know what point you're trying to prove or more importantly, how much you've been drinking, but I haven't a racist bone in my body.
If you want to carry on making completely irrelevant off topic accusations, then work away, but don't expect me to listen to your bullshit.
Nightrider.......................
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Originally Posted by Night Rider
Let's forget Mimi's situation or the half of America that wanted to see Ricky Hatten victorious. To be honest Night Rider, I'm sure the number was much higher than 50%. With that said, you have failed to answer my real question, by spouting a lot of self-righteous conjecture and evasion.
Let me ask the question one more time. Since, you stated race/ethnicity doesn't matter in Mimi's thread (I believe you said something along the line of "Who gives a fuck what she chooses, it does make a difference anyway". Why did you truly want Ricky Hatten to win? Why was that the guy you pulled for truthfully? Are you actually saying it has nothing to do with both of you being Irish and more with your dislike of Floyd Mayweather? At every Hatten fight, the Irish flags are waving and you're no different. My point to you is, if race is truly insignificant in your heart of hearts, why did you root for Hatten so hard? If you want play mind games with yourself and the rest of this thread and say it had nothing to do with him being Irish, than go ahead. If Floyd Mathweather was a humble, polite, non-braggart type who smiled and grinned all the time, you still would have pulled for Hatten and there's nothing wrong with that. If I was Irish, I would have rooted for him too. But don't hand me some colorblind B.S, then root for an fighter primarily based on shared heritage.
I don't want to hear any responses about Great Britain, the United States or Gilligan's Island for that matter and who they rooted for and why. Keep it real, WHAT WAS YOUR PRIMARY MOTIVATION FOR SUPPORTING RICKY HATTEN?
Firstly Ricky Hatt'ON' is English and those "flags" you refer to are English!Quote:
Originally Posted by beatmaker
Anyway NR is from Northern Ireland, a competely seperate county from the Republic of Ireland, where Ricky is incidentally not from anyway :roll:
As for why he supports him I can not answer but it's most likely because he has built a huge following in BRITAIN for being a down to earth, just one of the lads, peoples fighter.
People love Ricky over here, yes.......For one he is English or in NR's case British but a large reason is his humble persona, and general likeability!
I don't see what the fuck this has to do with "Mimi" at all :?
Dont you guys get that mayweather just puts on the arrogant act for promotion purposes, you think if floyd acting like a normal boring guy like hatton does this fight would have had this much hype?
Come on it really wasn't that close unless you mean all the holding that Ricky was doing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Night Rider
Weather he lost to a better man or not is subjective and I don't know what one would use as a measure of that but anyway it's totally irrelevant if someone thinks he's the better man or not. Mayweather's skills are undeniable and he's still the best fighter in the world pound for pound.Quote:
Originally Posted by lust4ts
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Originally Posted by timxxx
YOU ARE ON POINT!
There is no doubt I saw a side to Mayweather after the fight that I certainly did not expect. Which goes some way to making me believe that there is some truth in what you are saying!Quote:
Originally Posted by dell1111
If I'm honest I was expecting him to disrespect Ricky even in victory and maybe brag about how it was "Just another day at the office" or how easy it had been to beat him. Which he didn't and actually admitted to it being one of his toughest fights and going even further to say, "Ricky is great fighter".
As much as it pains me to say it, even in the build up (Mayweather - Hatton 24/7) and certainly after the fight I saw some traits in Floyd's character which were actually quite honourable and maybe even likeable.
On the other side, throwing money in peoples faces is the action of an asshole but I guess everyone has layers and different sides to their personality!
Yes he has proved that, but he will never have the fan base or literally be loved and adored by thousands, upon thousands of fans, which is kind of self evident. But as for being the pound for pound best, of that there is no doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by drock
As for him going down in history as one of the most exciting and loved boxers ever, it's highly unlikely!
Man please! How in the hell do you think the fight sold out in one hour? Not because of boring Ricky Hatton. Maywether is one of the biggest if not the biggest draw in boxing. It doesn't matter if he's loved by thousands or not obviously what he's doing works and it's better to sell tickets at the box office being a spectacular boxer than some boring loser that the fans love. That doesn't put money in your wallet because ultimately everybody wants to see a winner and that's what Mayweather is a proven winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by lust4ts
That's where you have just shot yourself in the foot, calling Ricky boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by drock
Ok Mayweather was great tonight, but many of his fights have been lackluster to say the least, often with booing all the way through.
Every fight that Ricky has been in has been exciting, he has never been in a bad fight, including tonight.
At least 7 or 8 of Mayweather's fights have been no more interesting than watching paint dry!
I am not disputing that Mayweather is a better fighter, but he is only exciting when he is pushed to fight, as ricky did tonight, pushed him and made him perform to his best.
Mayweather has all the talent, skills and ability to go down as one of the greatest AND most LOVED fighters in historty.............but what lets him down is is personality and lack of effort in many of his fights!
If you are going to make the point that Mayweather is a better fighter again, well I'm not disputing that, so repeatedly using that statement is pretty pointless.
Now if you want to argue with me about Mayweather being loved as much as Ricky or never being in boring fights, which was my point, then at least then you would be sticking to the subject :roll:
Thanks for clearing that up lust. What a tool beatmaker is! I can't be arsed replying in detail because I've stated why I was supporting Hatton and it has nothing to do with skin colour. Hatton has a far more likable personality plus he's from UK so why the fuck would I support that dick Mayweather. If there races were reversed then of course I'd still support Hatton. Beatmaker how the fuck can you just come out and say that I'm only supporting Hatton because of his race, you're full of shit. You've obviously got some underlying race problems, sort yourself out man.Quote:
Originally Posted by lust4ts