https://www.euronews.com/2022/04/01/...e-we-surprised
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Are people surprised ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFanti
I suppose the large question could be: "How much support (if any) should the USA provide?"Quote:
Originally Posted by sidney111
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So far the Biden administration supported Ukraine with 58 billion US $ so I guess he and his administration is fine with the treatment of the afro Africans.
Ok so I guess you are from Texas, I don't know but maybe you know all the laws and regulations around refugees, asylum and whats the normal standard procedure in cases like this in the EU region? Thats where most Ukraine refugees end up? There is a priority to first help refugees escaping war in the nearby regions and that makes sense. FYI the EU Member States have activated the Temporary Protection Directive. This means that persons who come to EU from Ukraine can get immediate protection and a temporary residence permit and requirements in this case are that you must be a Ukrainian citizen and have lived in Ukraine, or
have the status or residence permit of a person in need of protection in Ukraine so unfortunately this rules do not apply to African students if they not want to stay in Ukraine they have refuge in their home country. In general this does not have anything to do with racism but of course there is rasist people that dislike others because the color of their skin but that for sure does not apply to the whole population of Ukrain or Europe for that matter. We all know that US have some kind of issue when it comes to white and black you guys have a hard time to discuss the phenomena it self and instead of constructive thinking you make it harder by adding guilty by association and white privilege in to the debate, that makes it even harder to find a solution because now your feelings are hurting my thoughts.
I do not know where you are standing but as a guy from The Lone Star State I hope you know that only during the war on terror US alone have caused the deaths of approximately 929,000 people and how many of them was white? It doesn't matter its human lives. luckily it only including a bit over 364,000 civilians, and the cost only $8 trillion also US GWOT have caused the displacement, refugees, of over 38 million people. U.S. performed at least 81 overt and covert known interventions in foreign elections during the period 1946–2000
A few points to make-
1) African and Asian, mostly South Asian students have been graduating from universities in Ukraine and Russia since the USSR created the 'Friendship University' in Moscow in 1960. The current President of Angola, and the former President of Sri Lanka are graduates of Russian higher educational institutes -the reasons behind the USSR/Russia/Ukraine attracting foreign students were partly political, but mostly financial as the courses students did were cheap, the accommodation cheap and the quality of the degrees was sufficient for them to get jobs at home or in other countries.
Ukraine: Why so many African and Indian students were in the country - BBC News
2) Russia has been developing closer ties with African countries which is why so many have been reluctant to vote against Russia in the UN or openly criticise its war in Ukraine. India too, which has -or had- the single largest nationality of students in Ukraine has purchased arms from Russia, its Prime Minister Modi is engaged in his own mini-war against Muslims and Christians in India and is therefore at the moment at least unreliable with regard to Russia's war.
Ukraine conflict: How Russia forged closer ties with Africa - BBC News
History, politics and mercenaries: why so many African nations are quietly standing by Putin (telegraph.co.uk)
3) The Govts of Ghana and Nigeria did make attempts to re-patriate their nationals from Ukraine, but Africa more generally has preferred to keep its gob shut, as one critic points out, as if anyone can be surprised that such a woeful collection of crooks, liars and murderers would ever stand up for their own citizens.
Russia-Ukraine War: Nigeria begins evacuation of students in Sumy (premiumtimesng.com)
"Given the failure of African governments to exercise minimal responsibility for their protection,
students stuck in Europe have turned to self-help with a rafter of newly formed groups providing guidance and assistance where they can. The least African governments can do is to provide support to the often student-led voluntary initiatives that are providing the direction that has been so sorely lacking from officialdom.
Afterall, it’s the dismal state of universities at home – both in terms of quantity and quality – and the general lack of opportunities for young people that pushes them to study abroad.
Altogether, the conduct of Europe towards Africans in Ukraine has been execrable, but that’s not entirely surprising.
The willful tolerance of these violations of international law by African governments is, however, arguably worse.
They have not merely behaved characteristically as if their nationals do not matter, but they have abdicated the most basic of sovereign responsibilities – the protection of their citizens."
The New Humanitarian | African governments must do more to protect citizens caught up in Ukraine’s war
4) After the crisis in 2015 when over a million Syrians (and some 'others') 'made their way' to Europe for asylum -often in circumstances that benefited Turkey financially- Eastern Europe and Hungary and Poland in particular became openly hostile to the mere idea of non-Europeans being given Asylum, regardless of EU regulations. In the specific case of Ukraine, one must bear in mind that portions of South-Western Ukraine have been claimed as Polish territory since the re-drawing of European boundaries after the war in 1945, indeed historically parts of Western Ukraine were in the Kingdom of Poland, and there is still the oddity of Kaliningrad Oblast, formerly in the Prussian Empire, but still part of Russia.
5) Consider the fate of Africans in the context in which those Iraqi and Afghan translators and others who helped the US and its allies in the various wars there since 1980, have also been treated like dirt, in fact there is also some criticism of the treatment of Ukrainians in the UK, but given the policies and practices of Conservative Govt since 2010, as the saying goes, 'nobody is surprised'.