Working Girls who threaten to expose customers.

[sean1916]

I have seen this a few times. It does not sit well with me. I know meeting girls & girls meeting us can be complicated. I just cant understand a working girl threatening to out a customer. Of course if they did something bangout of order, sure.. & I think most of us would stand up for the girl. My concern is girls who may out someone because of a disagreement. It seems highly unprofessional. I think if this happens we should know.

[bigkid69]

I have seen this a few times. It does not sit well with me. I know meeting girls & girls meeting us can be complicated. I just cant understand a working girl threatening to out a customer. Of course if they did something bangout of order, sure.. & I think most of us would stand up for the girl. My concern is girls who may out someone because of a disagreement. It seems highly unprofessional. I think if this happens we should know.

She'd be ending her "career" if she did.

[sean1916]

She'd be ending her "career" if she did.

Sadly not, I have seen members get blackmailed here...

[90translover]

Mostly ratchets on that expose the client BS, but.....like you said if a client did something out of order like rob the girl or something else messed up then yea I could see someone being exposed for a reason.

On the flip side yea it'll be bad for business if someone's exposed for a stupid reason and some girls don't see that side of the coin.

[peacheater]

Yes it's despicable behavior, but let's face it - these girls aren't in that profession because it's a dream job, they're at it for the money, bottom line. And there are people who will do anything for money, including extortion. It's short term thinking if the accusation goes public - who would take the risk of employing their services anymore? - but scumbags will be scumbags and it's difficult for any half decent human being to understand the mindset and motivation of sociopaths.
Thankfully they are very much a minority of working girls.

[bigkid69]

Sadly not, I have seen members get blackmailed here...

Blackmailing and outing someone are two different things. If she blackmails someone, only the two involved know. But if she outs someone, I would think a lot of people would find out and stop seeing her thus ending her provider status.

[sean1916]

Mostly ratchets on that expose the client BS, but.....like you said if a client did something out of order like rob the girl or something else messed up then yea I could see someone being exposed for a reason.

On the flip side yea it'll be bad for business if someone's exposed for a stupid reason and some girls don't see that side of the coin.
Sadly I know more than one member who had to "keep quiet" because of a post, then was threatend to be exposed. its not cool. Sadly some of us may fall into the same trap.

[sean1916]

Blackmailing and outing someone are two different things. If she blackmails someone, only the two involved know. But if she outs someone, I would think a lot of people would find out and stop seeing her thus ending her provider status.
Thats the problem, the customer will keep quiet for fear of being exposed

[sean1916]

Sadly I know more than one member who had to "keep quiet" because of a post, then was threatend to be exposed. its not cool. Sadly some of us may fall into the same trap.

If a customer did something bad to a girl, this whole site would stand up against it. I think the girls know this as well.

[bigkid69]

Thats the problem, the customer will keep quiet for fear of being exposed

True, but if done enough, she'll run into the wrong person, which makes blackmailing incredibly dangerous.

Hobbying done correctly, the provider would know nothing about the client making blackmail difficult on top of dangerous.

[TSlover6912]

I had a similar situation happened to me many many years ago, only it involved a phone sex line, the customer list was stolen and a rogue collection agency got a hold of it and they called me up and tried to blackmail me by saying I owed them money for phone sex services that were delivered but never paid for.

After arguing with the guy a little bit, he threatened to expose me, I told him, "go ahead you fucking jerk off. All my friends know I'm a pervert and I have no living relatives. Who the fuck are you going to tell, genius?" Never heard from that idiot again. Although many people cannot do this.

[peacheater]

I had a similar situation happened to me many many years ago, only it involved a phone sex line, the customer list was stolen and a rogue collection agency got a hold of it and they called me up and tried to blackmail me by saying I owed them money for phone sex services that were delivered but never paid for.

After arguing with the guy a little bit, he threatened to expose me, I told him, "go ahead you fucking jerk off. All my friends know I'm a pervert and I have no living relatives. Who the fuck are you going to tell, genius?" Never heard from that idiot again. Although many people cannot do this.

Haha - nice one! If it weren't for all the shame and guilt surrounding sex (thanks religion) this wouldn't be such an issue, but as it is, the option of exploitation will always exist

[90translover]

Sadly I know more than one member who had to "keep quiet" because of a post, then was threatend to be exposed. its not cool. Sadly some of us may fall into the same trap.
Yea that's messed up. Thing is some of these girls don't know who they're dealing with so if they go around exposing people there's bound to be some bad karma coming right back at them.

[sean1916]

Yea that's messed up. Thing is some of these girls don't know who they're dealing with so if they go around exposing people there's bound to be some bad karma coming right back at them.

I agree, Its a shame... there are some top members here that this has happened to. I am a layed back type of guy. I am not sure how I would respond to being outed, only thing I know.. its highly unprofessional. I would hope other girls would stand up for us, as we do for them.

[90translover]

I agree, Its a shame... there are some top members here that this has happened to. I am a layed back type of guy. I am not sure how I would respond to being outed, only thing I know.. its highly unprofessional. I would hope other girls would stand up for us, as we do for them.

I like that but how?

[sean1916]

I like that but how?

i dont know, but perhaps some of are ladies could jump in on this conversation. Ladies?

[AshlynCreamher]

Do like Christian Grey did in '50 shades of grey', have her sign a nondisclosure agreement.

[sean1916]

Do like Christian Grey did in '50 shades of grey', have her sign a nondisclosure agreement. And if she says anything - take her to the cleaners and ruin her credit

who would go to court? cheeky monkey...

[peacheater]

Do like Christian Grey did in '50 shades of grey', have her sign a nondisclosure agreement.

There's nothing sexier than lawyers and contractual obligations.

[AshlynCreamher]

who would go to court? cheeky monkey...
You're right, you should keep doing what you're doing now - its working!

[sean1916]

You're right, you should keep doing what you're doing now - its working!

Hey, I have had no problems at all. I have just seen others fall victim to it. just doesnt sit well with me mate.

[AshlynCreamher]

Hey, I have had no problems at all. I have just seen others fall victim to it. just doesnt sit well with me mate.

I agree, its a cruel World

[nysprod]

I have seen this a few times. It does not sit well with me. I know meeting girls & girls meeting us can be complicated. I just cant understand a working girl threatening to out a customer. Of course if they did something bangout of order, sure.. & I think most of us would stand up for the girl. My concern is girls who may out someone because of a disagreement. It seems highly unprofessional. I think if this happens we should know.

You've never met a trans girl, have you

[Laphroaig]

Sadly not, I have seen members get blackmailed here...


Sadly I know more than one member who had to "keep quiet" because of a post, then was threatend to be exposed. its not cool. Sadly some of us may fall into the same trap.


I agree, Its a shame... there are some top members here that this has happened to. I am a layed back type of guy. I am not sure how I would respond to being outed, only thing I know.. its highly unprofessional. I would hope other girls would stand up for us, as we do for them.

Firstly, blackmail is an offense which the Police take very seriously and is on a whole different level to threats of outing.

Secondly, from what I've seen such claims on here are usually either unsubstatiated or obviously cases where the girl has been blowing off steam at a bad client with no intention of actually carrying out the threat. See examples in links below. I don't doubt there's more serious cases out there, but I can't say I've seen them.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?96808-Review-of-Lauren-Kaleesi&p=1669806&viewfull=1#post1669806 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?96808&p=1669806&viewfull=1#post1669806)


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?86933-TS-Raica-Colucci&p=1569287&viewfull=1#post1569287

(Read through the responses to the allegations from the girls themselves as well as other members posts.)

Lastly, it happens the other way round as well. I posted this thread a while ago and was slightly surprised at the lack of reaction to it.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?95569-Warning!!

I fully realise that this may be an impossible question to answer, but which members and what evidence do you have?

[Chaos]

I can't say I've seen it....Can't say I care either. I mean obviously it's terrible..but if you're running your life to where you CAN be blackmailed...you're doing it wrong in my opinion. But then I can't be blackmailed...you can't get one over on me since my family doesn't care what my orientation is, I work in nightclubs,so you can't fuck up my job,and you can't get money I don't have from me since you can't hold anything over me...The worst thing you could possibly do to me is hold my laptop for ransom (since that's where I do my art) but that's not really blackmail...I have everything backed up on an external HD....I'll go get a new one...

[youngblood61]

Pure fact, YOU can't trust anyone when money is involved.

[fred41]

I can't say I've seen it....Can't say I care either. I mean obviously it's terrible..but if you're running your life to where you CAN be blackmailed...you're doing it wrong in my opinion. But then I can't be blackmailed...you can't get one over on me since my family doesn't care what my orientation is, I work in nightclubs,so you can't fuck up my job,and you can't get money I don't have from me since you can't hold anything over me...The worst thing you could possibly do to me is hold my laptop for ransom (since that's where I do my art) but that's not really blackmail...I have everything backed up on an external HD....I'll go get a new one...

Pretty much this.

However, if you have a job, marriage...or both, that you want to protect...or even if everyone in the world and their mothers know you love transsexuals, but you don't want them to know that you prefer seeing tons of prostitutes to actual dating, then I don't understand why you wouldn't simply use a burner phone and not allow pictures or disclose personal information. What are you going to be blackmailed with?...secret movies....lol.

[lifeisfiction]

With comes to our sexual preferences there are things people don't want to share. Sometimes we can have fears be far more damaging to our beliefs on how people would react then what would happen. Things you can do to save yourself headaches. Get a burner phone. Do not use your real name. Do not give up personal information that can be linked back to you. Be calm (there are some crazy people out there) under silly reactions. Finally things go bad, be prepared to lose some money. Furthermore if you are being blackmailed or threaten for your life, the police will listen and press charges if your not being a jerk (some of those police officers might actually be clients joking aside).

I had an escort quietly snap a pic of me naked a four/five years ago. She said she had to check her phone and she took the pic of me naked thinking I wouldn't notice after I got undressed. It was obvious when you can hear the photo sound going off. Didn't say anything, and nothing came about it.

One escort I knew after she left escorting for a guy had broken up with him. I find out, because I got phone call from her ex-bf that she had a kept a book on her fav clients just in case she wanted to go back work. The whole situation was horrible mess between her and her bf. I used to see her and her friend for threesomes for a super discounted rate. So, I knew she had information about me. I even picked her up from her apartment so yes I was stupid. But nothing came about it. Escorts will get hold of your information. It happens. If it scares you take your precautions.


Strangely I actually used my personal phone, real name (never last) told what I did for a living and never had issues, but I've been lucky (too bad I just don't see escorts anymore, lol)

[fred41]

Strangely I actually used my personal phone, real name (never last) told what I did for a living and never had issues, but I've been lucky (too bad I just don't see escorts anymore, lol)

Yup, me too.
I've had some crazy moments...maybe because I like crazy girls...and I like going out with them sometimes.
lol...there were certain times when I thought there was a distinct possibility that something was going to be plunged between my shoulder blades (after an argument)...but to be honest, most of the girls I've seen beyond an escort visit had my back when I needed them to.
Sure the drama's up a notch, been in some rather odd situations...but I'm gonna have some great memories.
and made some interesting friends.
Probably just got lucky too.

[bigkid69]

Pretty much this.

However, if you have a job, marriage...or both, that you want to protect...or even if everyone in the world and their mothers know you love transsexuals, but you don't want them to know that you prefer seeing tons of prostitutes to actual dating, then I don't understand why you wouldn't simply use a burner phone and not allow pictures or disclose personal information. What are you going to be blackmailed with?...secret movies....lol.

Just like I said earlier, if you are going to hobby, you should do it correctly and not assume anything. Burner phones, hobby email addresses and always parking a good distance from her place is a good idea.

[natina]

Do like Christian Grey did in '50 shades of grey', have her sign a nondisclosure agreement.

you expose yourself with a nondisclosure agreement.

most TS escorts don't have any Real money are assets besides a car.
superior court is minimum $25,000.

many ts in north Hollywood secretly video tape there Trade for there websites and more.

[sean1916]

you expose yourself with a nondisclosure agreement.

most TS escorts don't have any Real money are assets besides a car.
superior court is minimum $25,000.

many ts in north Hollywood secretly video tape there Trade for there websites and more.

This pretty sad if true

[sean1916]

Firstly, blackmail is an offense which the Police take very seriously and is on a whole different level to threats of outing.

Secondly, from what I've seen such claims on here are usually either unsubstatiated or obviously cases where the girl has been blowing off steam at a bad client with no intention of actually carrying out the threat. See examples in links below. I don't doubt there's more serious cases out there, but I can't say I've seen them.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?96808-Review-of-Lauren-Kaleesi&p=1669806&viewfull=1#post1669806 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?96808&p=1669806&viewfull=1#post1669806)

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?86933-TS-Raica-Colucci&p=1569287&viewfull=1#post1569287

(Read through the responses to the allegations from the girls themselves as well as other members posts.)

Lastly, it happens the other way round as well. I posted this thread a while ago and was slightly surprised at the lack of reaction to it.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?95569-Warning!!

I fully realise that this may be an impossible question to answer, but which members and what evidence do you have?

Ive read those threads, I have no doubt it goes both ways at times. Of course i will not say who or by whom at this stage. I just know its real & happening. As far as the evidence i have.. well, its from the punters themselves. I am not looking to start a campaign, just was interested in the subject.

[sean1916]

You've never met a trans girl, have you

Come on son, lets not be silly.

[IluvemHung]

Extortion money from clients.

[sean1916]

Extortion money from clients.

Is that a question? or a statement?

[youngblood61]

Probably not good for business.