Why is it so hard to start a relationship with a T-girl?

[Youngmc]

I want to date a tranny, and start a relationship and fall in love, but its so hard, will it always be wild sex or will there be a time when they wanna settle down...

[straightxupxedge]

dont think of it as just a tranny! its a releationship, so treat it like one. theres goin to be times that your yes goin to want wild sex but theres also goin to be times where you talk, cuddle, fight, love each other.

it comes with the relationship. treat her as anyone would want to be treated.. if you just thinking about the sex maybe you just want the sex?

[ezed]

I want to date a tranny, and start a relationship and fall in love, but its so hard, will it always be wild sex or will there be a time when they wanna settle down...

It's a "relationship" (keyword). No different whether it's a gg or a tg. First you'll have wild sex and one of you will want to settle down. Then the other will fart in bed or not want to go to the ball game and instead go to the arts & crafts fair. Then you will bond till your mutual hate drives you apart.....unless all cylinders click.

And if that happens it's magic (kharma) nothing to do with gender or equipment.

[BarneyFife]

Another thing to think about too is the fact that T-girls are women, and even more woman then a lot of women. You have to be interested in them as a PERSON, not just interested in their body. Every man alive wants sex, and t-girls and women both understand that, but they need to know that you love them, and not just their body. Many t-girls are living with long term partners, so it is a distinct possibility. If you are just interested in sex, then dont try to start a relationship, just pick up a GG in a bar, or hire an escort. If you are truly interested in the person, then waiting till they are comfortable with you is going to be worth the wait.

[Phat]

HOW MANY TIMES IS THIS GOING TO BE A THREAD?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

HOW MANY TIMES IS THIS GOING TO BE A THREAD?

damn good point.........................

fellas hit the search box in the future and see if a topic has already been addressed because odds are it has....... with the exception of that "which shemale would split you open" topic that was just put up, LMAO

Yasmine started a thread that is on the 1st few of these pages that hits on this topic, but for the newbies and my fellow lazies here's my .02 cents

Anyone can be difficult in a relationship, doesn't matter if it's a GG or a TS, women are women

[hwbs]

i feel like im gonna be so difficult today , lmfao

[Quinn]

and instead go to the arts & crafts fair.

The minute anyone in a relationship seriously mentions going to an arts and crafts fair, that person should be beat to death with a shovel.

Once, I was dumb enough to go to one of those stupid things with a girl I was seeing. I don't care how much she liked getting tagged in the ass; nothing was worth that most awful of prices. To quote one of my favorite movies: "The horror. The horror."

-Quinn

[BeardedOne]

and instead go to the arts & crafts fair.

The minute anyone in a relationship seriously mentions going to an arts and crafts fair, that person should be beat to death with a shovel.

Once, I was dumb enough to go to one of those stupid things with a girl I was seeing. I don't care how much she liked getting tagged in the ass; nothing was worth that most awful of prices. To quote one of my favorite movies: "The horror. The horror."

-Quinn

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You owe me a keyboard, Mr. Q. :lol: Beer does not wash out so easily.

I expect I got the same consideration when I coerced friends/lovers to come to stamp shows or railway museums with me. At least, at the latter, I can put them behind the wheel of several tons of steel and make ammends. :D

Still :lol: :lol: :lol: @ the shovel comment. :D

[BeardedOne]

Oh, duh! :roll:

The relationship thing.

Get a cat. It's the only cure.

[NYTSJulie]

Correct me if I am wrong but don’t relationships usually start by meeting someone first, then you come to the decision if you want to be with them long term or not? I think for someone to say, “I want a relationship with a TS,” means they are seeking something more on the lines of sex. A statement like that says you’re not looking at who the person is but looking more at what that person is. So there for you are objectifying them, and I think a true relationship where there is true love is not about that objectification, so I say hire an escort and go get your rocks off.

Kiss Kiss,
Julie

[BeardedOne]

In my experience, 'true love' only exists on a Hallmark card, so I second the suggestion of finding an escort to meet your needs.

[DamionXXX]

Я Люблю Вас Ulyana, я Люблю только Вас ... теперь и для остальной части моей жизни.

[Dina Delicious]

bump

[Dkg]

But is it really so hard?
you meet her
talk to her
see if you share intrests, values, beliefs, etc
go on a few dates (hopefully invloving some sex :p)
and if you still have great intrest in each other then you have yourself a bonifide relationship
Works no different from a GG than a TG

It's like Julie said, you first have to meet them. Try going out to some parties or wherever the girls hang
Also it helps to not be ugly, and have some $$$

[Trogdor]

I keep getting put into the dreaded 'friends zone' with girls :P

[peggygee]

I want to date a tranny, and start a relationship and fall in love, but its so hard, will it always be wild sex or will there be a time when they wanna settle down...

Well, Youngmc, it's most likely because you haven't had a hit record since 1989s, ' Bust A Move". :lol:

And, that's why I don't have a man, cause I am such a wise ass :smh

But on a serious tip finding and keeping a relationship with anyone is difficult. As you are most likely aware, a good proportion of heterosexual marriages or relationships end in divorce or breakup.

So seeking a 'happy ending' (some pun intended) of an LTR with a transwoman, really makes the odds more dificult. Transwomen are a relatively small subset of potential datable woman.

Factor in personality differences, age, culture, geography (your ideal mate is in a city half way around the world), perhaps they or you are in a relationship at that moment . Maybe you or they are caught up in your careers or educational goals.

There are literally millions of variables that may preclude Mr. and Ms. Right from getting together.

With all of that, it may seem as if it hopeless and doomed from the start. But I would suggest to maintain optimism. With the advent of Internet dating Ms. Right might be a keystoke away.

The key thing is to stay out there, be visible. Now that doesn't mean sitting on a bar stool every night with a gin and tonic. You will lose a liver, not gain a lover, that way :(

Be proactive, creative, seek her out, at events, parties, book stores, colleges, the Net.

And, if, and when you do encounter her, 'come' correct or you won't be 'coming' at all. We have heard just about every lie, line of bullshit, plea, promise, etc, imaginable. :evil:

For me personally, if a man comes at me like a gentleman, not like a perv. If he is intelligent, funny, polite, he has a shot. He doesn't have to be a millionaire, though I ain't feeling 'Willie The Wino, or 'Craig the Crackhead. :P

All, he really needs to be is sincere, and speak from the heart, and who knows, we could be sitting in rocking chairs, in the setting Sun, 50 years from now, holding hands, still in love.

[zerrrr]

If you want a relationship with a TS first thing you have to do is drop the sex side of the relationship. A lot of girls have heard the BS lines but first open yourself up to her and prove that you are worthy of being trusted. She may not let her guard down for a while but she has probably been screwed over (not sex wise) more times you can count. Prove to her that you are honest, trustworthy, and not embaressed by being with her in public. Skip the sex part, there will be a lot of time for that later. Work on the friend side first.

[zerrrr]

bump

[peggygee]

Always a good topic to revisit, for even though
there are more than a few who are only
intersted in transwomen for 'fetishitic'
reasons, there are indeed those who are
seeking LTRs. :wink:
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[suckseed]

You know ladies, it's nice when a guy is first and foremost attracted to your intellect and chocolate chip cookies...but since except for message boards, we tend to see people before we meet them, it's kind of wishful thinking for many to expect that a guy isn't going to have to be aware or at least fine with
the minor detail that you used to be boys. I understand not wanting to be used for sex, but must you run to the other side of the spectrum and demand that we not care about sex with you at all? Do you think that's the way it works for gg's?
If all the other person's interested in is looks or genitals, obviously then that's not for anyone who wants something deeper. And that goes for us men as well.
Whether it's the personals section of CL or the transgendered dating sites, the customers seem to be the same. Mostly cd's, escorts and cockchasing men.
If you have a deeper need, trashing us men with a bit of knowledge and experience is throwing out the wheat with the chaff.

[trish]

Why is it so hard to start a relationship with a T-girl?

answer: 'cause you need to cross the t AND dot the i.

[TomSelis]

Always a good topic to revisit, for even though
there are more than a few who are only
intersted in transwomen for 'fetishitic'
reasons, there are indeed those who are
seeking LTRs. :wink:
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I'm glad some girls realize that.

That said, it's all about persistence really....well that and living in a place that has more than one t-girl. From there it's a growing process, but realizing you want a real relationship with a transexual is a good start.

[peggygee]

I'm glad some girls realize that.

That said, it's all about persistence really....well that and living in a place that has more than one t-girl. From there it's a growing process, but realizing you want a real relationship with a transexual is a good start.

Sort of a rhetorical question, and not really directed to anyone
in particular.

I have heard of a one horse town. :roll:

But I wonder how it must be for the one transwoman in the town.
Is it a good thing for her, because everyone is at her life. Or does
she feel very isolated.

And Tom, I have heard your comment from many men that it is difficult
to meet women in places with few transwomen.

I have lived in relatively small towns, and it was interesting http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/smiley-faces1.gif
Though I am much more of a city kitty.

What has been other folks experience in a 'one tranny town'?

[Ecstatic]

Always a good topic to revisit, for even though
there are more than a few who are only
intersted in transwomen for 'fetishitic'
reasons, there are indeed those who are
seeking LTRs. :wink:

And those of us who are drawn to transwomen for friendship as well as for fulfilling sexual desire. Having celebrated my silver wedding anniversary last year, I am not seeking an LTR (though I would be were I single), but I am always seeking more good friends and am proud to count many transwomen among my friends.


Imo, it's because most men approach us with too low a level of sexual self-awareness, and plenty of misconceptions about ALL women; both GG and TS.
So very true, Ari. Well said, indeed.

[thejuggernaughtbytch]

i had a relationship with a t-girl once and it was pretty sweet. and literally was just like a relationship with any other girl, except i hoped t-girls would be more apt in understanding the inner workings of american football, but to no avail, 'what's the point'' is all i heard when i was watching. but you know what, you just have to treat them and approach them like you would any other person you would want to date. we're all human, we have the same emotions regardless of our physical shell.

[Trogdor]

And those of us who are drawn to transwomen for friendship as well as for fulfilling sexual desire. Having celebrated my silver wedding anniversary last year, I am not seeking an LTR (though I would be were I single), but I am always seeking more good friends and am proud to count many transwomen among my friends.

My problem is that of the girls I know, I got too many friends and no lovers. :banghead :censor :thumbsdown :crap :angry :cry: :crazy :violin :boring :anon :| :smh :frustrated :smoking

[Ecstatic]

Trogdor, you need friends with benefits!! (Or at least friends who also escort, so you can have it both ways with them for a fee....)

[Trogdor]

Trogdor, you need friends with benefits!! (Or at least friends who also escort, so you can have it both ways with them for a fee....)

No such thing over here as friends with benefits in the midwest, dude. You even HINT at such a thing, and the girls are gonna write "Men are pigs!!!!" on the street in man blood, and usually the blood of the man who suggested it, if they did not crucify him yet that is :roll:. Cause in the midwest, especially in Michigan, the only hot chicks that are not disgustingly monogumus or taken are the ones that will not let you even touch them untill you put a ring on their finger. :roll:

:arrow: And I'd prefer not to look for an escort, having to pay for sex ain't my thing, makes me feel like Bud Bundy or something, ya dig?

I'd rather spend several hundred dollars on something like a nice TV, a year of kick-boxing classes, a vintage Pac-Man arcade machine, or whatever.......least I'll have something to say for afterwords. :P

[thejuggernaughtbytch]

i took kickboxing, then a female crippled midget attempted to steal my wallet and i figured i shouldn't use my skills. the moral quandry sent me to the psych ward

[bucatini70]

It's not had to find a girl who wants a relationship i think most people want to find someone...but you want a relationship with transgendered person it's up to you ...treat her with love...treat her with attention, never be shy or ashamed to be with her anyplace...make her your life and i think you will find what it is you are looking for i know i did

[peggygee]

It's not had to find a girl who wants a relationship i think most people want to find someone...but you want a relationship with transgendered person it's up to you ...treat her with love...treat her with attention, never be shy or ashamed to be with her anyplace...make her your life and i think you will find what it is you are looking for i know i did

Very well stated.

And of course like any other relationship there will
be bumps in the road.

The sad part is that in our disposable society, we are
apt to walk away when there is the slighest hint of discord.

Then too it is very important that the individuals in question
come into the relationship as 'emotionally healthy as possible',
sadly that is not always the case.

[suckseed]

Trogdor, you need friends with benefits!! (Or at least friends who also escort, so you can have it both ways with them for a fee....)

No such thing over here as friends with benefits in the midwest, dude. You even HINT at such a thing, and the girls are gonna write "Men are pigs!!!!" on the street in man blood, and usually the blood of the man who suggested it, if they did not crucify him yet that is :roll:. Cause in the midwest, especially in Michigan, the only hot chicks that are not disgustingly monogumus or taken are the ones that will not let you even touch them untill you put a ring on their finger. :roll:

The most fun bunch of women I've ever hung out with were the friends of my girlfriend in Saint Louis - down near the waterfront district, the cobblestones are crawling with beer drinking, football loving college girls. However, trogdor, you said the 'M' word - Michigan! :shock: Whole 'nother ball game.
Those accents get mighty irritating when they turn on 'Complaint' mode.
And it seems every girl smokes Parliaments - do they hand 'em out in high school? :smoking

[Trogdor]

Trogdor, you need friends with benefits!! (Or at least friends who also escort, so you can have it both ways with them for a fee....)

No such thing over here as friends with benefits in the midwest, dude. You even HINT at such a thing, and the girls are gonna write "Men are pigs!!!!" on the street in man blood, and usually the blood of the man who suggested it, if they did not crucify him yet that is :roll:. Cause in the midwest, especially in Michigan, the only hot chicks that are not disgustingly monogumus or taken are the ones that will not let you even touch them untill you put a ring on their finger. :roll:

The most fun bunch of women I've ever hung out with were the friends of my girlfriend in Saint Louis - down near the waterfront district, the cobblestones are crawling with beer drinking, football loving college girls. However, trogdor, you said the 'M' word - Michigan! :shock: Whole 'nother ball game.
Those accents get mighty irritating when they turn on 'Complaint' mode.
And it seems every girl smokes Parliaments - do they hand 'em out in high school? :smoking

The damned principle would not even let the chicks wear tanktop or belly shirts ( even in hot june weather ), it's like he was trying to make all the girls fuckin' "Wholesome" ( If I want wholesome, that's what buckwheat pancakes are for ) and make the students as asexual as possible.....stupid 5' 2'' naploianic principle :evil:

[Trogdor]

Plus we also have a saying over here:

What do you call a hot chick in Michigan?

A tourist!

[peggygee]

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[Alaska Guy]

I had a tgirlfriend in 2003, and we dated for a couple years. Sparks flew right off the bat, it was awesome. We always had the physical attraction, but in the end, we were different people, and so it didn't work out. She was intelligent, articulate, adventurous, and challenging; on the negative side, she was slightly condescending to people and inconsistent. Nevertheless, I will always care about her, and hope that we can maintain a friendship.

This is based on my experiences, and I know that it is not indicative of tgirls in general, but here are some observations. They are slightly different than with a gg, not so much in traits, but I would they tend to be a bit more defensive and sensitive. Conversely, they are strong, compassionate, determined, etc.

Trust is integral to a tgirl, and it can be hard to gain that trust, and easy to cause her to become defensive. Respect was also hard to gain, becase if you act like an angel, she might think there is something wrong, like you are hiding something (too goo to be true). If you don't act like an angel, then she might just think you are just another asshole.

It can be difficult to find that balance. In the end, it's worth it, because you can grow into a love that is unparalleled and beautiful, just like with a gg. I could make this longer, but it's just speculation on my part, and everybody is different.

[suckseed]

I too had a relationship with a beautiful TS. At first, we couldn't keep our hands off each other. It seemed like the only talking we did was after sex. But that was okay, because we just clicked that way. When we were together, things just heated up really quickly, and we actually ended up in bed really soon after we met. In the end, though, I had to go. Even though she wasn't a clock watcher, I'd gotten way more than my hour's worth - in fact it was almost two. I can't wait for my next relationship.

[Alaska Guy]

I too had a relationship with a beautiful TS. At first, we couldn't keep our hands off each other. It seemed like the only talking we did was after sex. But that was okay, because we just clicked that way. When we were together, things just heated up really quickly, and we actually ended up in bed really soon after we met. In the end, though, I had to go. Even though she wasn't a clock watcher, I'd gotten way more than my hour's worth - in fact it was almost two. I can't wait for my next relationship.

We couldn't keep our hands off each other either, but after awhile, she disliked the fact that I liked her preop status, and she unjustly (imho) punished me for being attracted to her the way she was.

[Kriss]

I too had a relationship with a beautiful TS. At first, we couldn't keep our hands off each other. It seemed like the only talking we did was after sex. But that was okay, because we just clicked that way. When we were together, things just heated up really quickly, and we actually ended up in bed really soon after we met. In the end, though, I had to go. Even though she wasn't a clock watcher, I'd gotten way more than my hour's worth - in fact it was almost two. I can't wait for my next relationship.

That hat I ate, well I cough it up and put it back on, just so I can take it off to you. That's some funny shit right there.

[peggygee]

This is based on my experiences, and I know that it is not indicative of tgirls in general, but here are some observations. They are slightly different than with a gg, not so much in traits, but I would they tend to be a bit more defensive and sensitive. Conversely, they are strong, compassionate, determined, etc.

Trust is integral to a tgirl, and it can be hard to gain that trust, and easy to cause her to become defensive. Respect was also hard to gain, becase if you act like an angel, she might think there is something wrong, like you are hiding something (too goo to be true). If you don't act like an angel, then she might just think you are just another asshole.

It can be difficult to find that balance. In the end, it's worth it, because you can grow into a love that is unparalleled and beautiful, just like with a gg. I could make this longer, but it's just speculation on my part, and everybody is different.

Have we dated? :roll:

Serously, I concur that some of what you have stated may be
generalizations, however a few of your points are spot on, at
least in my case.

I don't feel that I am overly defensive or sensitive, but if I let
someone in, lower my guards and then they are hurtful to me,
well I can take it quite hard.

But then as you state, I am a very stong, passionate, and
determined woman. When I love, I love very hard, I put my
all into it. But then again, i am passionate in all my endeavours,
whether it be work, love, friendships, or causes that I believe in.

As to my determination, i am like the Terminator, in that once I
have set my mind on somethng I will keep at it with great fervor,
until I have acheived it.

Trust, as you have alluded, definately isn't one of my strong suits.
While I am a very gregarous, out-going, personable, and
sociable individual, I am very reticent and reluctant about allowng
people into the innermost sanctums of my emotions.

However, if a person can prove themselves worthy of my trust, they
assuredly have found one of the most loyal, loving and giving persons
they will ever encounter.

Yet for most it would be easier for a camel to get through the
eye of a needle, than the unworthy to get into my heart.

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