How safe is this?

[Flaco]

Hypothetical situation: TS has protected sex with a guy. However when she is about to ejaculate she pulls off the condom and ejaculates on top of the guy's ass. A small bit of her semen goes into the guy's asshole. How risky is this for the guy? I put a picture in so you can have a mental image.

http://i.imgur.com/GwwweBm.jpg

[DegenerateLibertine]

>"A small bit of her semen goes into the guy's asshole"

Yeeeah, wouldn't take that risk, however slight.

[Trapt53]

Unless you've been gaped, it will be hard for the semen to get into your ass.

[natina]

Its NOT SAFE! SINCE SOME OF THE BODY FLUID I.E. SEMEN WILL MAKE CONTACT WITH THE ANAL Mucous layer.


Hypothetical situation: TS has protected sex with a guy. However when she is about to ejaculate she pulls off the condom and ejaculates on top of the guy's ass. A small bit of her semen goes into the guy's asshole. How risky is this for the guy? I put a picture in so you can have a mental image.

http://i.imgur.com/GwwweBm.jpg

[natina]

Its NOT SAFE! SINCE SOME OF THE BODY FLUID I.E. SEMEN WILL MAKE CONTACT WITH THE ANAL Mucous layer.

People have gotten an Anal STD in that same manner.


Hypothetical situation: TS has protected sex with a guy. However when she is about to ejaculate she pulls off the condom and ejaculates on top of the guy's ass. A small bit of her semen goes into the guy's asshole. How risky is this for the guy? I put a picture in so you can have a mental image.

http://i.imgur.com/GwwweBm.jpg

[here4dafun]

Don't do it. It's inherent with strangers that there WILL BE some kind of risk factor. Its the risk you take to enjoy the things we do.

[Grotahh]

Its NOT SAFE! SINCE SOME OF THE BODY FLUID I.E. SEMEN WILL MAKE CONTACT WITH THE ANAL Mucous layer.

People have gotten an Anal STD in that same manner.

Might be safe if she's.........a transsexual monk.

[christianxxx]

jesus you guys are a bunch of fucking fearmongers. Let's look at it in terms of odds right?

1. the top has to be positive and in an infectious state but still uses protection with random partners
2. you didn't use lube so there is much more significant anal tearing and exposed rawness because if you do use lube, obviously there is much less irritation
3. you have to have anal tearing on the rim or outer part of your ass that is not covered in lube
4. the semen to be infected
5. the semen has to mix with an exposed part of your outer ass that has a tear before you or her wipe it away

Is it the safest thing in the world? of course not. But if THAT'S how you contract HIV after using a condom for the entire experience and then those sequence of events happen to infect you, you could consider yourself the unluckiest man in the world.

The odds are in the multiple millions to one. Think about it.

[Flaco]

Alright guys, I just took a HIV test that came back negative. I always practice safe sex but I kept thinking "What If" because I kept hearing about Charlie Sheen coming up positive. It kinda scared me. Well, test results came back negative and I'm so happy, thank you God. Everyone have fun and stay safe :)

[fred41]

Alright guys, I just took a HIV test that came back negative. I always practice safe sex but I kept thinking "What If" because I kept hearing about Charlie Sheen coming up positive. It kinda scared me. Well, test results came back negative and I'm so happy, thank you God. Everyone have fun and stay safe :)

Glad to hear you came back negative, but here's the thing - if you're single and you practice sex with different people on a regular basis - especially a 'hobby' basis...then you should start testing regularly anyway. Probably at least three times a year.
Now that there's an over-the-counter test, this shouldn't be a problem for anybody.

I'm gonna throw one more thing out there (not really aimed at you)...if some of you folks out there are so afraid of continuously getting HIV even beyond the norm...then do yourself a favor and just stay in a monogamous relationship...I say this because there are still guys who ask questions on medical sites such as - "I just received an uncovered blow job from a prostitute for the first time...don't know what I was thinking. I think I have all the signs of HIV...is this possible?"....and they continue to show phantom symptoms even when the doctor on site tells him it's incredibly unlikely.

[dreamon]

Like Christian said, it is very unlikely it would result in getting infected. But depending on how well or not well you know the partner, it's still better to avoid contact with bodily fluids. That said, it is still nearly impossible.

I hope you know it takes about 6 months for HIV to show up on tests however. You should take one again in 6 months but you'll come up negative again, unless you engage in some risky behavior.

[dreamon]

Alright guys, I just took a HIV test that came back negative. I always practice safe sex but I kept thinking "What If" because I kept hearing about Charlie Sheen coming up positive. It kinda scared me. Well, test results came back negative and I'm so happy, thank you God. Everyone have fun and stay safe :)

Charlie Sheen was engaging in much riskier behavior than you described, on a much more recurrent basis.

[MrFanti]

Charlie Sheen was engaging in much riskier behavior than you described, on a much more recurrent basis.

Obviously, so was Sheen's partner....

[fred41]

Like Christian said, it is very unlikely it would result in getting infected. But depending on how well or not well you know the partner, it's still better to avoid contact with bodily fluids. That said, it is still nearly impossible.

I hope you know it takes about 6 months for HIV to show up on tests however. You should take one again in 6 months but you'll come up negative again, unless you engage in some risky behavior.

I'm sorry dreamon but this is simply not true. Even the simplest test will tell you on average at 3 months....though there are now tests that can sometimes do it in a month.

[fred41]

Obviously, so was Sheen's partner....

it's a pointless observation though...why?
Because Sheen's partner may or may not have contracted the virus from a partner he or she trusted. Regardless of what people do for a living, they often contract the virus from someone they (mistakenly) trust in their personal lives. We all do that at different times.
After that, if she intentionally spread the virus - then shame on her, but it doesn't exonerate Sheen.

P.S...I don't think Sheen is any better anyway, because there is no way in hell I actually believe that Sheen stopped having risky sex after he learned that he was positive.
I'm not that stupid.

[broncofan]

After that, if she intentionally spread the virus - then shame on her, but it doesn't exonerate Sheen.

I strongly agree here. She might not have known she had the virus before giving it to Charlie, regardless of how she got it. The big moral failure is having sex with other people after you find out you're positive and not telling them. We don't know nearly enough information about how Charlie contracted it to indict this other person and as you say, it does nothing for his culpability.

[fred41]

I strongly agree here. She might not have known she had the virus before giving it to Charlie, regardless of how she got it. The big moral failure is having sex with other people after you find out you're positive and not telling them. We don't know nearly enough information about how Charlie contracted it to indict this other person and as you say, it does nothing for his culpability.

I liked what you said...but...

Here in NYC (and probably in L.A. too...) a large percentage of the latin TS community is undocumented.
They often choose to escort because nothing else they opt to do in their given situation will ever give them the bang for the dollar that escorting will.
If that's the case...what do you think they will do when they, all of a sudden, find out they are HIV Pos.?
Live on food stamps, hope they don't get sent back home and be happy to look like a dude in a dress because they can't even afford to take illegal hormone shots?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not justifying anything.
But I think it's crazy to think a TS escort, who may be in this country illegally, all of a sudden is going to stop escorting or come clean to a trick...
well, it's just not realistic.

Sheen is wealthy....he has other options.
and because of that,...he is in fact more culpable.

[broncofan]

I liked what you said...but...

Here in NYC (and probably in L.A. too...) a large percentage of the latin TS community is undocumented.
They often choose to escort because nothing else they opt to do in their given situation will ever give them the bang for the dollar that escorting will.
If that's the case...what do you think they will do when they, all of a sudden, find out they are HIV Pos.?
Live on food stamps, hope they don't get sent back home and be happy to look like a dude in a dress because they can't even afford to take illegal hormone shots?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not justifying anything.
But I think it's crazy to think a TS escort, who may be in this country illegally, all of a sudden is going to stop escorting or come clean to a trick...
well, it's just not realistic.
.
This is all stuff I haven't thought about. Personally I would say it's culpable but not as culpable as someone who has more options. I'm not sure exactly what she would do except find some other job...because as you say, telling the tricks would end her money making venture.

You certainly provide the relevant facts for her moral dilemma, but it's only a dilemma because expedience (in this case compelling) tempts her to do the wrong thing. But I bet there are plenty of people who have hiv and don't tell their partners, and the urge to do so is probably greater for those whose livelihood depends on concealing their status.

[broncofan]

They often choose to escort because nothing else they opt to do in their given situation will ever give them the bang for the dollar that escorting will.
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Yeah, not a huge portion of the population makes 300 or so dollars an hour as it is..

Edit: I will point out that your hypothetical does make me think twice about seeing escorts...haven't done in several years but even if I don't condone lying I can understand why someone charging money for sex would be tempted to do it.

[nysprod]

Alright guys, I just took a HIV test that came back negative. I always practice safe sex but I kept thinking "What If" because I kept hearing about Charlie Sheen coming up positive. It kinda scared me. Well, test results came back negative and I'm so happy, thank you God. Everyone have fun and stay safe :)

Flaco this isn't the first time you've come back with something like this and I remember the panic you were in last time.

Btw, it takes 2 weeks to 2 months for enough antibodies to show up in a test.

[fred41]

Yeah, not a huge portion of the population makes 300 or so dollars an hour as it is..

Edit: I will point out that your hypothetical does make me think twice about seeing escorts...haven't done in several years but even if I don't condone lying I can understand why someone charging money for sex would be tempted to do it.

look...from everything we read - Sheen was probably Bisexual...which means some hyper horny dude may have given it to him for free.
I'm also willing to make a lot of other assumptions based on this and probability:
such as -
If he contracted this from a sex act (and not from sharing needles), based on probability, i would say he most likely, but not certainly, got it from unprotected sex in his ass.
...and if that is the case...he more than likely asked for it.

I realize that's an awful lot of assumptions...but I'm willing to make them...lol.

[Flaco]

Flaco this isn't the first time you've come back with something like this and I remember the panic you were in last time.

Btw, it takes 2 weeks to 2 months for enough antibodies to show up in a test.

Sometimes I just have irrational fears, but I haven't had sex in a little over 2 months so I'm pretty sure my results are accurate.

[nysprod]

So this happened over 2 months ago, then you post it here a few days ago...weird...anyway, next time go on post exposure prophylaxis within 72 hours and spare us.

[dreamon]

I liked what you said...but...

Here in NYC (and probably in L.A. too...) a large percentage of the latin TS community is undocumented.
They often choose to escort because nothing else they opt to do in their given situation will ever give them the bang for the dollar that escorting will.
If that's the case...what do you think they will do when they, all of a sudden, find out they are HIV Pos.?
Live on food stamps, hope they don't get sent back home and be happy to look like a dude in a dress because they can't even afford to take illegal hormone shots?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not justifying anything.
But I think it's crazy to think a TS escort, who may be in this country illegally, all of a sudden is going to stop escorting or come clean to a trick...
well, it's just not realistic.

Sheen is wealthy....he has other options.
and because of that,...he is in fact more culpable.

Stop using the word undocumented. Do you call a robber a forceful borrower? Stop trying to whitewash it. They are illegal.

And I don't buy that logic. Here in California, an illegal immigrant can have a driver's license, can receive in-state tuition from public universities, as well as special scholarships, free state-funded healthcare. Illegal immigrants in California can take employers to court and sue them for withheld wages, or even for what they believe to be low wages... and win. They also receive state protection from deportation by the federal government.

In California, illegal immigrants have been granted essentially every right a citizen has, without having to actually go through the process of becoming a citizen or immigrating here legally.

[Flaco]

So this happened over 2 months ago, then you post it here a few days ago...weird...anyway, next time go on post exposure prophylaxis within 72 hours and spare us.

Go fuck your men in wigs and spare us the details of your encounters.

[nysprod]

Grow up already