first timer, worried experience will affect my attraction to genetic girls

[whathappenedtome]

Hello,

I am new here. I am a young man, 23, have been very curious about transsexuals even before ever seeing porn, porn only made this stronger. However I have some strict ideas about sexuality and I do feel uncomfortable with my attraction and desires sometimes. I thought it was just a phase and would go away but that has not been the case. My main worry is that if I try this, I will be more attracted to cock than vagina and I will be more thrilled by having sex with T girls than genetic girls.

I hope you understand what I'm going through, it's a serious question. I hope someone who has been through something similar can give me some advice as to what to expect. Intend to see a TS escort next month.

Thanks in advance

[whathappenedtome]

anyone this is a serious question?

[DeezNuts515]

How about you give it longer than 45 minutes? This isn't exactly a super populated board.

You are attracted to what you are attracted to. There is no "choice" involved. Try it out, if you like it, great, if not, move on with the knowledge trans women aren't for you.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Only you know what you want. If you think it'll change your life in a way do don't want it to, don't do it. Some things are left best as a fantasy. And if you want to do it, let go of that "strict idea of sexuality" shit, which I assume you're basically saying "I'm 100 percent straight".

[lordworm]

Who cares if it does?

[thatOneRandomHornyGuy]

everybody's different.. and also depends on what turns u on obviously.. Im bi so boys girls and trannys all turn me on, had some incredible sex with all three genders too..

[saifan]

Hello,

I am new here. I am a young man, 23, have been very curious about transsexuals even before ever seeing porn, porn only made this stronger. However I have some strict ideas about sexuality and I do feel uncomfortable with my attraction and desires sometimes. I thought it was just a phase and would go away but that has not been the case. My main worry is that if I try this, I will be more attracted to cock than vagina and I will be more thrilled by having sex with T girls than genetic girls.

I hope you understand what I'm going through, it's a serious question. I hope someone who has been through something similar can give me some advice as to what to expect. Intend to see a TS escort next month.

Thanks in advance

And this is a problem why?

Life's too short for regret.

[Clean cut]

I still havent made the plunge but Im not gonna lie, all I look at its shemale porn and want to make that leap of faith. I consider myself straight and would never hook up w a dude. I just think Tgirls are fucking hot. Can anyone give me advice as to where I can find one without paying.

[natina]

I think you should wait until you loose your virginity before you try T-girls.

Word!

Some guys Dick's get harder from Taboo stuff.

[giovanni_hotel]

If I wasn't sure about wanting to do something, I wouldn't do it.

But messing around with a TS chick for the first time isn't like mainlining heroin.
You won't become an addict after your first hit.

However, your idea about sexuality could evolve over time.

Still it's just sex.
The person you were before you sucked and fucked a ts chick for the first time is still going to be there inside you.

Now, if you're worried you might end up being attracted to TS chicks on the same level you are to GG women, I don't know what to tell you.

If that's a legitimate 'fear', then don't do it.

[saifan]

I still havent made the plunge but Im not gonna lie, all I look at its shemale porn and want to make that leap of faith. I consider myself straight and would never hook up w a dude. I just think Tgirls are fucking hot. Can anyone give me advice as to where I can find one without paying.

Throw your ego out the window and just pay.

[rodinuk]

...I am new here. I am a young man, 23...
Sure about that...?

However I have some strict ideas about sexuality...
Which are what exactly?

My main worry is that if I try this......advice as to what to expect...Intend to see a TS escort next month.
Based on your anxiety about it you should expect to feel worried afterwards.

[CoolAwesomeBXDude]

jus go for it. itll only affect your attraction to ggs if u allow it too

[Random532]

You'll do it. Then you'll feel weird and worried and a bit sick. Then a bit later you'll want to do it again but better. Like pretty much anything sexually non-vanilla in my limited experience. Rodin is right - you should definitely expect to feel some regret / concern afterwards.

The other poster who said you won't get hooked on one encounter is also right - but paying for sex is addictive after a fashion if you are susceptible to addiction and you do it for a long time. It took me over a year to break the habit and I would say after a decade of it it was as hard to give up as any drug I've touched.

[yodajazz]

I say that your sexual attraction will change over time anyway. As I have aged, I find mature women to be more attractive. But I think that it's more about compatability. As far a t-girls some things you might like in fantasy will not be so great in reality. You won't know until you give a try.

[bigballing05]

The more good experiences you have the more you will become attracted to transexuals and less so to genetic females. On the flip, a bad experience will have the opposite effect. Your concern is valid. Though if you don't like having the desires you have then staying away from TS porn and sites like this may be a good starting point for you. I do believe we have control over what we lust after and desire if we want to. It's more of a choice than we think.

[tranylover]

I just finished my psychology human sexuality class a few semesters back.
I wrote a paper on sexual attraction. I posted excerpts here to a question very similar.
Sexual attraction is fluid, dynamic, and complex. Human sexuality is also biological, dependant on the different hormones in your body different times, and stages of your life.
Into the repressed and puritanical environment we live in; alternate sexual attraction is persecuted.
in reality repressing your sexuality is unhealthy.

[whathappenedtome]

The more good experiences you have the more you will become attracted to transexuals and less so to genetic females. On the flip, a bad experience will have the opposite effect. Your concern is valid. Though if you don't like having the desires you have then staying away from TS porn and sites like this may be a good starting point for you. I do believe we have control over what we lust after and desire if we want to. It's more of a choice than we think.

I've 'struggled' with this for two years, I have tried to give up TS porn/porn in general many times but I Always come back. I can still get good orgasms from more conventional porn, but I shouldn't lie, I tend to gravitate towards TS porn and they have often given me stonger orgasms/more of a thrill..

I have indeed Always been attracted to taboo stuff. I remember masturbating (before discovering porn) and having fantasies about transformation etc. so quite unusual.

I'm not a religous guy, but as I mentioned I do/did have quite strict ideas about sexuality. I have been with female escorts before but that's mainly because I have asperger/high functioning autism and sexual things became some kind of an obsession. I've also had two GFs but both weren't very good experiences. I didn't know how to ask girls out in high school due to my lack of understanding of social rules (it's got a lot better last few years) so I used a lot of porn to find sexual satisfaction. I'm sure my condition isone of the reasons my sexual ideas/desires are more deviant than average.

I'm sure I'll try it next month because I don't want to live in uncertainty any longer.

It'd be nice to have a poll here to know whether ppl only go for T girls, a mix of T girls and GG's or sth else..

[whathappenedtome]

something I forgot to mention: I'd like to have a GF and a family later, so if acting out would indeed change my sexual tastes, I don't know how this is compatible with my goals in life. I could of course and would not object to dating a T girl. I definitely respect them for all they've been through and their strength. Maybe I could adopt or use a surrogate if I really wanted to have a family with a T girl...

[whathappenedtome]

I just finished my psychology human sexuality class a few semesters back.
I wrote a paper on sexual attraction. I posted excerpts here to a question very similar.
Sexual attraction is fluid, dynamic, and complex. Human sexuality is also biological, dependant on the different hormones in your body different times, and stages of your life.
Into the repressed and puritanical environment we live in; alternate sexual attraction is persecuted.
in reality repressing your sexuality is unhealthy.

Thanks for this but how would an attraction to T girls be called? I'm not into men only girls and T girls but I'm more fascinated by cock than vagina...

[nysprod]

Hello, I have been very curious about transsexuals even before ever seeing porn, porn only made this stronger.

How did that happen...you must have been young and you haven't seen a tgirl for real, so if not via porn than what?

[whathappenedtome]

How did that happen...you must have been young and you haven't seen a tgirl for real, so if not via porn than what?

A documentary about ladyboys in Thailand

[Kioji]

My main worry is that if I try this, I will be more attracted to cock than vagina and I will be more thrilled by having sex with T girls than genetic girls.


So what? I'm not sure that's actually a problem Also are you seriously attracted to genitals and not the person with genitals that you like?
Like a vagina or penis by itself is nothing, it's meaningless without an attractive lady attached. I have never understood how people can identify with being attracted to genitals.
Are you attracted to Transmen, who have a vagina but present as male??

[Kioji]

How did that happen...you must have been young and you haven't seen a tgirl for real, so if not via porn than what?

It was the same for me i was interested in this before porn mainly due to the Greek figure Hermaphrodite, seeing stuff on bravo and docus about trans people but it was always in passing and it was not until i saw porn did i do my own research.

[whathappenedtome]

and I'm also worried about HIV/hepatitis/other STDs:

Male-to-female (MTF) transgender persons are individuals who experience discomfort with their biological male gender and identify instead as women. Members of this population confront multiple health risks,1 with HIV/AIDS constituting a particularly overwhelming social and medical issue. Estimates of HIV prevalence in the MTF transgender population range from 11% to 78%.2–9 However, few evidence-based transgender-specific HIV interventions exist.10,11

San Francisco, a city known for acceptance of sexual diversity, has a large, multicultural MTF transgender population. Data from anonymous HIV testing sites in San Francisco indicated an incidence rate of 7.8 per 100 person-years—the highest for any risk group in the city.12 Ethnic differences in HIV seroprevalence among MTF transgender persons have been reported in studies conducted in San Francisco and Los Angeles.2,8,12 African Americans showed the highest HIV seroprevalence (44%–63%), followed by Latinas (26%–29%), Whites (16%–22%), and Asian/Pacific Islanders (APIs) (4%–27%). Correlates of HIV-positive status include ethnicity (i.e., being African American), socioeconomic status (i.e., having less than a high school degree), lifetime sexual partners (i.e., > 200 partners), and lifetime history of injection drug use.2 Furthermore, HIVpositive participants were more likely than HIV-negative participants to report unprotected receptive anal sex (URAS) with primary partners and injection drug use in the past 6 months.2

[Caleigh]

Use protection if you are worried

[Caleigh]

As a non-escort who doesn't have multiple sexual partners I have to say that it kind of offends me that TS in general are lumped together with escorts who because of their work are a particularly high risk group. The statistics from SF were from anonymous HIV testing centres which means that they were taken from people who were testing themselves for HIV meaning that they themselves were worried because of their past behavior. There are many TS who barely date at all considering the lack of men who are prepared to have real open relationships with them who are instead looking for anonymous "discreet" interactions because they are in the closet and/or are in a relationship already and just want an "adventure".

[whathappenedtome]

As a non-escort who doesn't have multiple sexual partners I have to say that it kind of offends me that TS in general are lumped together with escorts who because of their work are a particularly high risk group. The statistics from SF were from anonymous HIV testing centres which means that they were taken from people who were testing themselves for HIV meaning that they themselves were worried because of their past behavior. There are many TS who barely date at all considering the lack of men who are prepared to have real open relationships with them who are instead looking for anonymous "discreet" interactions because they are in the closet and/or are in a relationship already and just want an "adventure".

Sorry did not mean to offend you.

I have always been fascinated by transformation as I mentioned earlier and before I discovered porn I never thought about the penis a pre op has. I just considered them to be the same as girls. When I discovered the porn genre it was after years of porn use and I have the feeling it's a result of porn addiction, always needing more intense stimuli to reach the same effect/ tolerance setting in. I cannot believe this is a genuine attraction unless you're bi maybe, but I'm not I find men disgusting sexually.

I would not have a problem dating a transgirl who I would consider to be the same as a genetic girl, but lusting after them for something many transgirls want to remove or feel ashamed of feels wrong. How would you feel if you were a girl trapped in a male body and had to use that 'tool' all the time to save money to get rid of it? For many having a penis seems to be something they are ashamed of and don't want, I think most transgirls want to have the full operation hence why many escort to pay for it. How could I ever feel good about myself playing with that 'tool' if I know it is something they don't want to have and causes them emotional pain?

I just think the fact I got into the porn genre is because of tolerance and addiction, very little to do with 'sexuality' or natural sexual tastes. While I would have no problem dating a transgirl who wants to have an operation and looks/feels like a genetic girl, I do have a problem with persuing a sexual interest that is entirely created by the porn industry and has is not innate at all.

[sockratees]

Why would being attracted to transwomen be an issue?

[whathappenedtome]

Why would being attracted to transwomen be an issue?

Because the vast majority of men who have this attraction are interested in pre-op transexuals or in other words a creation by the porn industry. THe vast majority of transwomen don't wan to be a 'chick with a dick' and they only use their tool to enter the sex industry and make money to get the operation that will get rid of that tool.

If the attraction would be 'I'm attracted to transwomen because they look exactly like a girl and I admire them for what they've been through and all the hard work they did to look exactly like a girl. I'm not bothered by the fact she was born a man', that is healthy and ok, the porn variant however cannot be healthy in my opinion for reasons I explained

[giovanni_hotel]

THe OP is beginning to sound like a world class troll.

You have a LOT of hang ups about TS from only watching PORN.
Personally I question everything you've posted and really think most of it is bullshit.

Just my opinion.

[whathappenedtome]

THe OP is beginning to sound like a world class troll.

You have a LOT of hang ups about TS from only watching PORN.
Personally I question everything you've posted and really think most of it is bullshit.

Just my opinion.

Why would I be a 'troll' for asking a legitimate question? You may not agree with me but that doesn't mean you should call me a troll.

Is it bullshit most TS women want an operation then or that this kind of interest is mainly the result of porn addiction/sexual conditioning? Just do a google search and you'll find tons of forums where there are many ppl who have similar concerns as I have and are really worried/anxious.

[giovanni_hotel]

Why would I be a 'troll' for asking a legitimate question? You may not agree with me but that doesn't mean you should call me a troll.

Is it bullshit most TS women want an operation then or that this kind of interest is mainly the result of porn addiction/sexual conditioning? Just do a google search and you'll find tons of forums where there are many ppl who have similar concerns as I have and are really worried/anxious.


Because I've NEVER heard of a guy about to see a TS escort for the the first time who in the same breath frets so much about the life experience of transgendered women.

Or who worries that being with a TS will make him less attracted to GG women, based on NO EXPERIENCE whatsoever.

All under the age of 25???

Maybe you're a sensitive soul.

Or, more likely you're a bullshit artist who thinks he's a little bit smarter than the rest of us.

Sorry but I smell feces.:anon

[whathappenedtome]

Because I've NEVER heard of a guy about to see a TS escort for the the first time who in the same breath frets so much about the life experience of transgendered women.

Or who worries that being with a TS will make him less attracted to GG women, based on NO EXPERIENCE whatsoever.

All under the age of 25???

Maybe you're a sensitive soul.

Or, more likely you're a bullshit artist who thinks he's a little bit smarter than the rest of us.

Sorry but I smell feces.:anon

Well believe it or not but I don't mean to troll, what purpose would that have...

I don't fret about the life experience of TS women. I just think logically and ask serious questions. Again will you deny what I said about most TS women wanting an operation and entering the sex industry to pay for it? Is that trolling or fretting? You also ignored the rest of the points I made, you only attack me personally.

I'm not particularly sensitive, I just have strong values and think things through before I do something. Once again do a google search and you'll find lots of posts/fora where ppl feel concerned about having this attraction and how it might impact them. Many are young guys like me who have a porn addiction. Most agree it's porn induced and a result of needing more intense stimuli to get same level of arousal. Surely you must have heard of this before?

You might not agree and I'd respect that, but at least try to have the same level of respect for me without attacking me personally for my opinion.

[whathappenedtome]

Because I've NEVER heard of a guy about to see a TS escort for the the first time who in the same breath frets so much about the life experience of transgendered women.

Or who worries that being with a TS will make him less attracted to GG women, based on NO EXPERIENCE whatsoever.

All under the age of 25???

Maybe you're a sensitive soul.

Or, more likely you're a bullshit artist who thinks he's a little bit smarter than the rest of us.

Sorry but I smell feces.:anon

And what does my age have to do with it? I already mentioned I noticed TS porn gets me off faster than normal porn hence why I am concerned it's a result of porn addiction. Lots, including on this site, have followed the same pattern of behaviour, starting off with conventional porn before escalating to more niche genres and staying there.

[Prince Vlad]

the worry of Whathappened to me was mine too
I had this fear that if I ever liked tgirls I then would have lost interest in genetic women and never settle down to make a famly

and u know what?that's exactly what happened
I had stories but there are always something missing...
so many times I dreamt my gf had that thing but she didn't...

[whathappenedtome]

the worry of Whathappened to me was mine too
I had this fear that if I ever liked tgirls I then would have lost interest in genetic women and never settle down to make a famly

and u know what?that's exactly what happened
I had stories but there are always something missing...
so many times I dreamt my gf had that thing but she didn't...

So did the loss of interest in genetic girls happen gradually after seeing TS girls or immediately? How did/do you feel about it?

[broncofan]

So did the loss of interest in genetic girls happen gradually after seeing TS girls or immediately? How did/do you feel about it?
He couldn't even look at a gg without vomiting after just one sexual experience.

[Prince Vlad]

So did the loss of interest in genetic girls happen gradually after seeing TS girls or immediately? How did/do you feel about it?
it happened very soon
my mission in early life was to meet a gentle young woman, settle down, have children you know...
because I was sort of brainwashed by society
but honestly I never felt fit to that typical lifestyle
now I don't care anymore
I made peace with myself
When I will meet a tgirl and fall in love mutually I settle down with her, and if this won't happen peace

[Laphroaig]

And what does my age have to do with it? I already mentioned I noticed TS porn gets me off faster than normal porn hence why I am concerned it's a result of porn addiction. Lots, including on this site, have followed the same pattern of behaviour, starting off with conventional porn before escalating to more niche genres and staying there.

It's simple, stop watching porn for a few months!

[bluesoul]

Hello,

I am new here. I am a young man, 23, have been very curious about transsexuals even before ever seeing porn, porn only made this stronger. However I have some strict ideas about sexuality and I do feel uncomfortable with my attraction and desires sometimes. I thought it was just a phase and would go away but that has not been the case. My main worry is that if I try this, I will be more attracted to cock than vagina and I will be more thrilled by having sex with T girls than genetic girls.

I hope you understand what I'm going through, it's a serious question. I hope someone who has been through something similar can give me some advice as to what to expect. Intend to see a TS escort next month.

Thanks in advance

sounds like you're uncomfortable with the notion that you might not be 100% heterosexual. i'm guess this is what you meant by having "some strict ideas about sexuality". unfortunately, this is just going to be something you'll have to accept about yourself. think of it as the occupational hazard of your attraction.

the part about you worrying about being "more attracted to cock than vagina" is interesting. unless it's a situation where you could be prosecuted (under your government's laws) i'd consider it your fate. some men are indeed more attracted to cocks than vaginas.

[broncofan]

It's simple, stop watching porn for a few months!
In all honesty, that's never a bad idea but difficult in practice.

[bluesoul]

the worry of Whathappened to me was mine too
I had this fear that if I ever liked tgirls I then would have lost interest in genetic women and never settle down to make a famly

and u know what?that's exactly what happened
I had stories but there are always something missing...
so many times I dreamt my gf had that thing but she didn't...

is there a reason why you don't "settle down to make a family" with a transgender woman?

[broncofan]

I would take the main question a bit more seriously if it weren't for the injection of supposed moral qualms by the op halfway through the thread. If you believe having sex with a ts is damaging to her sense of identity then why would you consider doing it?

Anyhow, I believe there is such a thing as sexual conditioning but I doubt it operates that quickly. I also really doubt that becoming more interested in ts women would make you unable to have any interest in ggs. I could see it adding an interest but I'm not sure why it would create an aversion.

[bluesoul]

Because the vast majority of men who have this attraction are interested in pre-op transexuals or in other words a creation by the porn industry. THe vast majority of transwomen don't wan to be a 'chick with a dick' and they only use their tool to enter the sex industry and make money to get the operation that will get rid of that tool.

If the attraction would be 'I'm attracted to transwomen because they look exactly like a girl and I admire them for what they've been through and all the hard work they did to look exactly like a girl. I'm not bothered by the fact she was born a man', that is healthy and ok, the porn variant however cannot be healthy in my opinion for reasons I explained

i think i see what your issue is. your attraction seems to be purely sexual/physical and you're worried about any repercussions that would develop further. is this correct or wrong?

[bluesoul]

In all honesty, that's never a bad idea but difficult in practice.

your comment reminds me of the guy that sued apple because he couldn't stop watching porn (http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/07/17/man-sues-apple-for-porn-addiction/). why not just not be on the computer as much? you can get on the computer to just check e-mail, then log off and do something else.

[broncofan]

your comment reminds me of the guy that sued apple because he couldn't stop watching porn (http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/07/17/man-sues-apple-for-porn-addiction/). why not just not be on the computer as much? you can get on the computer to just check e-mail, then log off and do something else.
I was only saying that it's more difficult to adopt good habits than to simply have a desire to. This is the case with any addictive behavior. Why would that remind you of someone who sued a company for his own lack of self-control? I was merely saying it requires some willpower to break any habit.

[whathappenedtome]

sounds like you're uncomfortable with the notion that you might not be 100% heterosexual. i'm guess this is what you meant by having "some strict ideas about sexuality". unfortunately, this is just going to be something you'll have to accept about yourself. think of it as the occupational hazard of your attraction.

the part about you worrying about being "more attracted to cock than vagina" is interesting. unless it's a situation where you could be prosecuted (under your government's laws) i'd consider it your fate. some men are indeed more attracted to cocks than vaginas.

I'm not attracted to men, so if I never discovered TS porn I would probably never have been obsessed by that part of the male anatomy. I just don't consider it compatible with who I am. I watched lots of straight porn before, so I saw lots of dicks but my focus has Always been on the girl during BJ scenes for example, never on the cock. That changed with TS porn hence my confusion. If I really liked cock, why would I not focus on it during girl/guy sexual scenes?

[Prince Vlad]

is there a reason why you don't "settle down to make a family" with a transgender woman?
basically two reasons
I'm pretty promiscuos, can't create long lasting relationships, I think I'm emotionally infantile, how would you say...once I get someone after a bit I get bored and begin to feel like I need someone else, something more
and then there are the "others"
my parents, siblings, friends, acquaintances, people in general, I thought 1 million times and don't think I could stand be stared at, judged by them, that's too much, I still keep it to myself
there are also a third reason, I live in a small city of 100k and there are very few trans women

[giovanni_hotel]

I'm not attracted to men, so if I never discovered TS porn I would probably never have been obsessed by that part of the male anatomy. I just don't consider it compatible with who I am. I watched lots of straight porn before, so I saw lots of dicks but my focus has Always been on the girl during BJ scenes for example, never on the cock. That changed with TS porn hence my confusion. If I really liked cock, why would I not focus on it during girl/guy sexual scenes?


The same reason that some people will only eat cucumbers if they're pickled.
Or won't eat potatoes unless they're fried.

It's all about the presentation and preparation.:tongue:

[sockratees]

Because the vast majority of men who have this attraction are interested in pre-op transexuals or in other words a creation by the porn industry. THe vast majority of transwomen don't wan to be a 'chick with a dick' and they only use their tool to enter the sex industry and make money to get the operation that will get rid of that tool.

If the attraction would be 'I'm attracted to transwomen because they look exactly like a girl and I admire them for what they've been through and all the hard work they did to look exactly like a girl. I'm not bothered by the fact she was born a man', that is healthy and ok, the porn variant however cannot be healthy in my opinion for reasons I explained



Then go for girls who enjoy being what you are attracted to. By the way the porn industry did not "create" this class of individual, they simply exploit the image, perhaps misrepresenting the demographics in the process, but it doesn't mean these women don't exist at all - simply just don't assume you know the person at first sight.

If anything what's "unhealthy" is that there aren't enough of them.

[bluesoul]

If I really liked cock, why would I not focus on it during girl/guy sexual scenes?

for the same reason why there are men who have looked at transsexual women either in porn, or like you, in documentaries and still not attracted to cock.

if you look through this forum, you will come across a thread called fem boy thread finely done right (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?55510-Fem-Boy-Thread-finely-done-right!!!). for many guys, being attracted to a cock is easier to accept when the person it's attached to has a feminine appearance: thus, femboys are attractive to these men because despite them being men, they have far more paramount feminine features and mannerisms.

i'm sure it's possible to summarize every male is fascinated by their own penis, and for some, this fascination can be stronger, but it never fully becomes an attraction to another man, just an attraction to that particular attribute that makes them male. seeing someone who is (in some form) female (like a crossdresser) satisfies their mental equation of what they find attractive (penis) with who they believe they should be attracted to (female person).

btw: you should also be aware. there are guys who actually watch other guys in porn and are even fans of theirs and aren't gay. if you actually check out some body builder forums, the men there are able to critique and admire another naked males physique in a completely non-sexual way. it's the same way some girls can look at another girls boobs or ass without being sexually aroused by it. finding something aesthetically pleasing doesn't necessarily mean you're aroused by it.


I was only saying that it's more difficult to adopt good habits than to simply have a desire to. This is the case with any addictive behavior. Why would that remind you of someone who sued a company for his own lack of self-control? I was merely saying it requires some willpower to break any habit.

your original comment "In all honesty, that's never a bad idea but difficult in practice." matched exactly what that guy's complaint stated. that it was extremely difficult to break a porn addiction in practice (he had tried and failed). his lawsuit failed too

[broncofan]

Of course his lawsuit failed. It's based on the premise that someone else is responsible for his own addiction. Only a moron would think that acknowledging that an addiction requires willpower to break implies that it can't be done or that a purveyor of services is responsible for it.

[whathappenedtome]

for the same reason why there are men who have looked at transsexual women either in porn, or like you, in documentaries and still not attracted to cock.

if you look through this forum, you will come across a thread called fem boy thread finely done right (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?55510-Fem-Boy-Thread-finely-done-right!!!). for many guys, being attracted to a cock is easier to accept when the person it's attached to has a feminine appearance: thus, femboys are attractive to these men because despite them being men, they have far more paramount feminine features and mannerisms.

i'm sure it's possible to summarize every male is fascinated by their own penis, and for some, this fascination can be stronger, but it never fully becomes an attraction to another man, just an attraction to that particular attribute that makes them male. seeing someone who is (in some form) female (like a crossdresser) satisfies their mental equation of what they find attractive (penis) with who they believe they should be attracted to (female person).

btw: you should also be aware. there are guys who actually watch other guys in porn and are even fans of theirs and aren't gay. if you actually check out some body builder forums, the men there are able to critique and admire another naked males physique in a completely non-sexual way. it's the same way some girls can look at another girls boobs or ass without being sexually aroused by it. finding something aesthetically pleasing doesn't necessarily mean you're aroused by it.



your original comment "In all honesty, that's never a bad idea but difficult in practice." matched exactly what that guy's complaint stated. that it was extremely difficult to break a porn addiction in practice (he had tried and failed). his lawsuit failed too

Thanks for this, very informative.

I hope next month's encounter will solve the questions I have. I intend to see an Asian TS of one of the escort sites in London.

I'm also fascinated by crossdressers or boy to girl transformation videos on YouTube like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T70ZozlZGV4

[bluesoul]

no worries whathappenedtome

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[broncofan]

I have no idea why you haven't posted here for a year. But I recall when you used to post here, you would troll people with pictures that had nothing to do with what they said and you would sometimes quote my posts and claim they said something that no honest person could think they said. So I was naturally curious about what else you've written and basically all of your posts are as bad. P.S. you might want to update your screencapture.

[bluesoul]

I have no idea why you haven't posted here for a year. But I recall when you used to post here, you would troll people with pictures that had nothing to do with what they said and you would sometimes quote my posts and claim they said something that no honest person could think they said. So I was naturally curious about what else you've written and basically all of your posts are as bad. P.S. you might want to update your screencapture.

sounds like you took things pretty personally. i actually have no idea who you are :tongue:

i hadn't posted for a year because i decided to do a little traveling and working abroad. hope you didn't miss me too much

[broncofan]

i hadn't posted for a year because i decided to do a little traveling and working abroad. hope you didn't miss me too much
Traveling abroad and working in a place with no internet. No, I only noticed when I saw you post again and having a normal memory recalled what a childish idiot you are.

[Fyusian]

Then go for girls who enjoy being what you are attracted to. By the way the porn industry did not "create" this class of individual, they simply exploit the image, perhaps misrepresenting the demographics in the process, but it doesn't mean these women don't exist at all - simply just don't assume you know the person at first sight.


Indeed and don't many ladyboys in Thailand choose to continue living with a penis even if they have money for surgery? For some, it's more comfortable because that's what they've always been familiar with and it doesn't define their identity.


I'm not attracted to men, so if I never discovered TS porn I would probably never have been obsessed by that part of the male anatomy. I just don't consider it compatible with who I am. I watched lots of straight porn before, so I saw lots of dicks but my focus has Always been on the girl during BJ scenes for example, never on the cock. That changed with TS porn hence my confusion. If I really liked cock, why would I not focus on it during girl/guy sexual scenes?

If you're not attracted to men you can consider yourself perfectly straight.

A trans-woman with a penis is a different thing all together. For some it's a fetish, it's exotic and taboo for others and of course that brings out all sorts of psychological reasons as to why we're attracted. It's "new" and "fresh" for some of us and/or a unique sexual experience for others.

You don't have to be attracted to cock but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy one on a trans-woman. I can't explain it but if I see a cock by itself, it does nothing for me, but on a woman? I'm fine with it. I perceive a trans-woman as a woman still whether they are pre-op or post and find them attractive.

My trans-attraction was new this year too. I've seen three TS escorts over several months but now have suddenly lost interest after experiencing what they had to offer and I did enjoy it but my attention has gone back to genetic girls again. So I say don't worry, I don't think you'll loose interest in genetic girls. As much as I enjoy anal simulation, I can get that from a genetic girl with a strap-on and also enjoy the pleasures of a vagina too.

That's not to say I've lost attraction to transsexuals. I still find them to very attractive women and have realized there's more to gender than what is between the legs, but I don't think I'd be hiring a pre-op one as an escort again as they are no longer on my mind.

I know some men also actively seek TS's out for relationships but for me, a relationship will come naturally and if that happens to be with a cis woman or trans-woman then so be it. It honestly doesn't matter either way to me so long as I care for the person.

But none of this is anything to feel guilty or shameful about. All men enjoy different sexual experiences.

[Fyusian]

Sorry did not mean to offend you.

I have always been fascinated by transformation as I mentioned earlier and before I discovered porn I never thought about the penis a pre op has. I just considered them to be the same as girls. When I discovered the porn genre it was after years of porn use and I have the feeling it's a result of porn addiction, always needing more intense stimuli to reach the same effect/ tolerance setting in. I cannot believe this is a genuine attraction unless you're bi maybe, but I'm not I find men disgusting sexually.

I would not have a problem dating a transgirl who I would consider to be the same as a genetic girl, but lusting after them for something many transgirls want to remove or feel ashamed of feels wrong. How would you feel if you were a girl trapped in a male body and had to use that 'tool' all the time to save money to get rid of it? For many having a penis seems to be something they are ashamed of and don't want, I think most transgirls want to have the full operation hence why many escort to pay for it. How could I ever feel good about myself playing with that 'tool' if I know it is something they don't want to have and causes them emotional pain?

I just think the fact I got into the porn genre is because of tolerance and addiction, very little to do with 'sexuality' or natural sexual tastes. While I would have no problem dating a transgirl who wants to have an operation and looks/feels like a genetic girl, I do have a problem with persuing a sexual interest that is entirely created by the porn industry and has is not innate at all.

These trans women are the same as genetic women really, they just have another tool. The problem is we still seem to define sex based on genetics and genitalia alone when it should also be based on hormones, physiology and phenotype. There are natural born men and women with the chromosomes of the opposite gender. There are women born with XY chromosomes and they might not even be aware of this yet they are still women. Genetics isn't everything if hormonally, physiology and mentally you are the other sex since genes are only one factor of determining sex. Phenotypically, hormonally and mentally trans-women are women and you'll find that their genitalia does not change that once you meet one.

You're also looking at escorting the wrong way. What about genetic girls who escort to pay for their student fees? To make money for their family? To pay off debts or to open a business? Many are in the escort business to pay off something or to earn money, do you think any truly prefer it? Why have this view only on trans-girls? If a trans-girl has emotional pain from still having a penis then they're going to have that pain whether they escort or not but escorting provides them with a quicker way to have surgery (if that's what they truly desire if they have no intention of working in the adult or escort business long-term).

And to go back to the other question, if you develop a complete taste for t-girls and go off genetic girls forever, what's the big deal if that makes you happy? Alternatively it might just be a fantasy or fetish you want to live out (as I think it was for me) and there's no harm in that.

I've had many different fetishes and fantasies over the years. At one point only lesbian porn aroused me and I went and had a threesome with two girls because of that fantasy. Then that desire only towards lesbian porn stopped, recently it was t-girls and now that seems to have gone too.

That said, I'm going to be aroused over any woman with a hot body, I don't really care what's between the legs but that active desire and fantasy of sex only with a t-girl seems to have gone.

[bluesoul]

Traveling abroad and working in a place with no internet.

hehe nope, i was kinda busy and chose to use my internet time differently. remember your post earlier:
"In all honesty, that's never a bad idea but difficult in practice."
well, i found it pretty easy to accomplish.


No, I only noticed when I saw you post again and having a normal memory recalled what a childish idiot you are.

ah, sorry you're still butthurt after 1 year. they say time heals all wounds, so hopefully you're on your way to recovery :wiggle:

btw: you're definitely right about that. i actually think that would make a good title for me: bluesoul: the childish idiot

[broncofan]

Downvoting four of your posts and blowing a gasket qualifies me for the title of childish idiot as well so I'm not sure I can let you have it. I think you know that you do some mild trolling every once in a while, but it's something we're all guilty of.

It relates to the main topic because op is worried about sexual conditioning. I think that a person can develop very particular sexual interests just as well if not better looking at pornography than having sex. So, if he is concerned about experience molding his interests, I think it's unlikely to happen with one or two sexual encounters and he will have an opportunity to see what he likes in person without fear that he will extinguish any attraction to ggs.

[Vladimir Putin]

Hello,

I am new here. I am a young man, 23, have been very curious about transsexuals even before ever seeing porn, porn only made this stronger. However I have some strict ideas about sexuality and I do feel uncomfortable with my attraction and desires sometimes. I thought it was just a phase and would go away but that has not been the case. My main worry is that if I try this, I will be more attracted to cock than vagina and I will be more thrilled by having sex with T girls than genetic girls.

I hope you understand what I'm going through, it's a serious question. I hope someone who has been through something similar can give me some advice as to what to expect. Intend to see a TS escort next month.

Thanks in advance

After I jerked off to my first shemale pic, I knew I was permanently ruined forever and I knew I would never like GGs again. (sarcasm)

Actually it's true, I don't like GGs as much as I like TSs and I don't feel guilty about it.

[smoothboi]

I don't either. I'm not interested in dating GGs.

[runningdownthatdream]

Don't sweat losing your attracting to GGs.........your destiny is your destiny. DO worry about turning into this guy: http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/search.php?searchid=1007617

[rodinuk]

That search link returns no items

[runningdownthatdream]

its working for me........are search results tagged somehow to the user doing the search?

[Vladimir Putin]

Not working for me either.