Girls, help me assess my risk?

[andrew_]

Hi,

Last week I have been with a famous brazilian tgirl, won't name her as she's massively well known in porn... I came in her mouth, she spat, she came in my mouth, I spat. She said she tested negative 4 months ago but she's been escorting a lot since... so docs put me on PEP.

Kinda freaking out. Should have covered but I was in such awe of her and didn't. Mouth has been burning since following day too... no sores, could be anxiety, but not a good sign either.

She seemed quite sure of herself in terms of having a clean bill of health. She's in high demand and relatively picky about clients, but I must assume she'd have done the same with other clients normally. Online reviews speak of regular BBBJ offered.

I was hoping the girls on the forum, especially those who escort and or do porn, could give me their two cents on this situation.

Thanks,

Andy

[Laphroaig]

What info do you expect to get from the girls that you can't get from your Doctor?

The risks of OWO and CIM are well documented online and there's plenty of discussions around the subject on here.

By taking PEP, you've probably taken all the preventative measures you can (after the event).

Your "symptoms" sound like guilt and paranoia but PEP itself is known to have a number of potential side effects, so it's probably worth researching those before jumping to conclusions.

[ELDERGOD]

Just going to have to prey and wait it out

[You Love Us]

She seemed quite sure of herself in terms of having a clean bill of health. She's in high demand and relatively picky about clients, but I must assume she'd have done the same with other clients normally. Online reviews speak of regular BBBJ offered.

I don't mean to be cruel but you're the one who chose not to use protection. There's a leason to be learned there.

Even if the risk of transmission is low, don't take it as an excuse to not go back to the doctors. Work on the assumption you've got an STD and err on the side of caution, take the meds, do what your doctor tells you and don't risk your health just for a fuck.

[ELDERGOD]

What is PEP anyway can't even google it?

[andrew_]

What info do you expect to get from the girls that you can't get from your Doctor?

The risks of OWO and CIM are well documented online and there's plenty of discussions on here.

By taking PEP, you've probably taken all the preventative measures you can (after the event).

Your "symptoms" sound like guilt and paranoia but PEP itself is known to have a number of potential side effects, so it's probably worth researching those before jumping to conclusions.

You are right. I suppose I should have worded my message differently. I didn't mean to ask about the symptoms or PEP, I meant my question to be about the behaviour of the escort; in other words, if this behaviour is common for escorts/porn actresses or a sign of a person who is more prone to risk taking than others. I am a newbie to this type of thing so I apologise if my post is silly. I certainly hope I am not offending anyone!

[Laphroaig]

Don't take this as gospel as I only have my own experiences to back it up.

The majority of TS escorts are fine with doing OWO (both ways). Most who do OWO will also do CIM. I personally don't believe this is a sign of them being any more prone to risk taking as the risks involved are relatively low.

Your post isn't silly and you're not going to offend anyone. Most of us on here have developed a fairly thick skin anyway...
You are however being a bit naive to expect any escort/porn star to openly admit to taking risks over STD's. Any admission of something like that would almost certainly ruin their business.

[andrew_]

Don't take this as gospel as I only have my own experiences to back it up.

The majority of TS escorts are fine with doing OWO (both ways). Most who do OWO will also do CIM. I don't believe this is a sign of them being any more prone to risk taking.

Your post isn't silly and you're not going to offend anyone. Most of us on here have developed a fairly thick skin anyway...
You are however being a bit naive to expect any escort/porn star to openly admit to taking risks over STD's.

I appreciate your insight and I am genuinely starting to realise the extent of my naivety in this subject matter.

[Laphroaig]

What is PEP anyway can't even google it?

Try googling PrEP or Truvada instead.

or just read through westheangelino's threads on here:

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?87385-TRUVADA-Why-are-we-ALL-not-taking-this-!!!!

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?93130-Raise-Your-Hand-if-You-Take-TRUVADA!-BE-PROUD

Just be prepared to set aside a few hours...

[Laphroaig]

I appreciate your insight and I am genuinely starting to realise the extent of my naivety in this subject matter.

Indirectly related to your question, you might want to have a read through this recent thread.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?94483-has-there-ever-been-an-hiv-outbreak-in-the-industry

Christian probably knows more about the TS porn industry than the rest of us put together.

[andrew_]

Indirectly related to your question, you might want to have a read through this recent thread.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?94483-has-there-ever-been-an-hiv-outbreak-in-the-industry

Christian probably knows more about the TS porn industry than the rest of us put together.

Thanks again, that was an interesting read.

Ah, dunno what to think... she is a bit of a superstar, certainly one of my all time faves. Going to bed with her was such a treat, I wish we would have used a condom so I could just remember it fondly... I am not cut out for this kind of punt! Saw one of my fantasy girls and lost control. Idiot.

[ohioguy13]

how bout owo?

[ohioguy13]

don't bother found a good dictionary with everything on there thx

[lifeisfiction]

Was it only cum swallowing? HIV from oral sex, it so rare that there has only been 3 document cases and the circumstances around them are suspect.

I mean honestly the best person to talk with is your doctor who specializes in HIV and infectious disease. Unless the person on this forum is a doctor, we can only help so much. I know for this situation is pretty damn scary. The biggest mistake is not to be honest about the sex acts that occur. Sometimes when people are in the situation you don't want to say what you actually did and will give something close, but not really helpful in properly examining the situation. So full disclosure brings the best results.

I have been a few situations and I know that it can be very very scary. The medical person that I have used was dynamic in reassuring my fears. I hoping your going to be alright. I wouldn't turn to this forum for answers, I would turn to actual medical professionals.

[ed_jaxon]

While HIV is the scary outcome, other stds are far more likely with oral.

[AdaBlackXXX]

If you don't know them don't let them cum inside your fucking body, simple. STI like gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, HPV, and HIV can be transmitted through cum and herpes with mouth sores. Don't give a shit about yourself? COOL. Give a shit about your partners.

[stan.smith]

Being a medical student and after reading this forum i feel i am compelled to provide the right knowledge regarding HIV and its transmission. I understand the OP is scared but to be honest he shouldnt be that scared only if it was CIM like he claims to be. If it was only CIM and as the OP claims to have spat out the risk of transmission is pretty much in the zero point zero range. like someone mentioned on this thread only 3-4 cases in the world have ever been documented and that would be mainly through cuts in the oral mucosa and not related to sperm. and in the case of swallowing the body's gastric acid Ph is so low that it destroys sperm and its contents as soon as it hits the stomach. in terms of sexual practices bareback with cum inside post the greatest risk for the transmission of HIV. bloodbourne etiologys are the second most common with IV drug users sharing needles being the highest amongst it. the OP has stated a doctors visit and the use of PEP (which is post exposure prophylaxis ) which was the smartest thing. as someone also mentioned burning sensation of your mouth can be a side effect of PEP or it can just be psycho somatic sort of like the placebo effect, you have been thinking that you have it non stop so your body makes a symptom unrelated to the disease (i say unrelated because HIV generally start with flu like symptoms) to make you think you actually do. the mind has much more of a powerful effect on our body than we think.
my advice would be to continue to check up on your doc , get tested at least twice just in case of false negs and false pos and continue PEP until the recommended dose is completed. wish you all the best and hope this helps.

[lifeisfiction]

Being a medical student and after reading this forum i feel i am compelled to provide the right knowledge regarding HIV and its transmission. I understand the OP is scared but to be honest he shouldnt be that scared only if it was CIM like he claims to be. If it was only CIM and as the OP claims to have spat out the risk of transmission is pretty much in the zero point zero range. like someone mentioned on this thread only 3-4 cases in the world have ever been documented and that would be mainly through cuts in the oral mucosa and not related to sperm. and in the case of swallowing the body's gastric acid Ph is so low that it destroys sperm and its contents as soon as it hits the stomach. in terms of sexual practices bareback with cum inside post the greatest risk for the transmission of HIV. bloodbourne etiologys are the second most common with IV drug users sharing needles being the highest amongst it. the OP has stated a doctors visit and the use of PEP (which is post exposure prophylaxis ) which was the smartest thing. as someone also mentioned burning sensation of your mouth can be a side effect of PEP or it can just be psycho somatic sort of like the placebo effect, you have been thinking that you have it non stop so your body makes a symptom unrelated to the disease (i say unrelated because HIV generally start with flu like symptoms) to make you think you actually do. the mind has much more of a powerful effect on our body than we think.
my advice would be to continue to check up on your doc , get tested at least twice just in case of false negs and false pos and continue PEP until the recommended dose is completed. wish you all the best and hope this helps.

That's why I leave it to people in the medical field.

That was excellent, the perfect information. I am not a doctor or even studying to become a doctor, but that is so on point. I like to leave it to the medical people. I just think OP might not have fully disclosed the activities that he did so that's my cautionary response.

Hey, Stan it sounds like you are ready residency. We could always use your thoughts more and yes we know you have to charge a fee, lol.

[ohioguy13]

Top Notch reply stan You have no idea how many people you may have just helped out I know one for sure me Thanks. A lot of people read these posts great info!!

[AdaBlackXXX]

Now that I think about it OP may be allergic to "male" cum. If this is the first cum shot you've taken and you get better in a few days I think you might actually have a seminal plasma allergy. I have one and the first time I gave my boyfriend a blow job I started freaking out because my mouth was burning, my throat got fuzzy, and it was a little harder to breathe due to the fuzzy sensation. All biological males give me this reaction. I always have a glass of water with me on set if I know I'll be getting cum in my mouth. It's your body fighting a foreign substance that it does not recognize. It's that simple for me drink water and get that stuff out of your mouth asap the longer you wait the worse it gets. Some people have it bad tho. BUT, It's not safe sex. Next time if you must get so personal with someone perhaps the two of you should be tested. And if she is an adult model than she should have known better and followed the safe practices that we use. Your sleeping around, shes sleeping around, those people are sleeping around, sometimes people are not sober and do dumb things, etc. It's an endless cycle of possible risk that you don't have to take by simply using protection. Careless people will pay a price. This stuff wont simply affect your mouth. It spreads, and it's not pretty. Herpes can show up on your anus, penis, and your eyes. Try getting laid then. Much more nastier things you can catch. Go google the beautiful photos, trust me, the sensation of skin to skin is totally worth the risk. :)

[andrew_]

Hi everyone; I do appreciate everyone's opinions about this.

I think that regardless of my situation it goes to show that more information about these topics is neeed. If I had done my research before I visited this girl, I would have behaved rather differently. Not wishing to lay the blame on her but I certainly wish that she had steered me differently, seeing I am such an obvious rookie and was very insecure about visiting an escort. Of course, I am an adult and I take full responsibility for my actions, which were reckless.

I went to a Sexual Health clinic in London today where the doctor told me that my risk of HIV is zero and I should interrupt the PEP. I don't think he would give such advice lightly so I think I'll go with that, especially because the Truvada/Isentress combo is giving me some serious side effects (the mouth burning might be from that). Of course, I will still need to test for everything, including HIV, in the appropriate time frames.

I will now stop posting about this until the situation is resolved. Constantly looking at the internet when anxious about health issues tends to make things worse for me.

Once again, I'd like to thank everyone for chipping in and for being nice to me about this. I will update this thread with a few considerations once I'm through the thick of it, fingers crossed until then.

All the best,

Andy

[danoninho]

Take care and do the right thing. Always.

Everything is going to be fine!

[stan.smith]

That's why I leave it to people in the medical field.

That was excellent, the perfect information. I am not a doctor or even studying to become a doctor, but that is so on point. I like to leave it to the medical people. I just think OP might not have fully disclosed the activities that he did so that's my cautionary response.

Hey, Stan it sounds like you are ready residency. We could always use your thoughts more and yes we know you have to charge a fee, lol.


Top Notch reply stan You have no idea how many people you may have just helped out I know one for sure me Thanks. A lot of people read these posts great info!!

Anytime my fellow tranny chasing brothers! im glad this info helps and im more than willing to provide any more info regarding stds and other concerns yall may have and all for FREE! id never charge a fee at least not to you guys! ill provide info on whatever knowledge i might have on that topic. and to be secure just cause the chances of HIV with CIM are close to "nil" doesnt mean you should hit up every ts escort in the city drinking gallons of cum:tongue: there are other dangerous things to worry about other than HIV. people get obsessed with HIV as its so deadly but at the same time dont realize diseases such as Hepatits B can pose the same or even a higher threat and its transmission risk is not so low as HIV.
personally CIM and bareback (Intercourse) are two things i entirely avoid. better to be safe than sorry.