Did Trans500 Cross Line By Having An Adult Act As An Under Aged Character?

[TSPornFan]

Trans500 is the most disgusting porn site in the industry. I've seen teen porn with women in their early 20s dressed under age, and played characters who were 18 or 19 years old. That's how teen porn is normally shot in the business. Hire a young pornstar and let her act as an inexperienced or slutty teen. Eva Angelina, Tasha Reigns, and Capri Cavanni have played teens early in their porn careers.

Trans500 took it a step too far in my opinion. In their recent video OMG my Stepmom is a TS!, the girl who is playing the teen daughter is also playing as an under aged character. I don't have a problem with taboo porn. I do have a problem with pornstars playing as an under aged character. I don't care the adult actress is at the legal age. She should not be playing as a under aged character. The video starts with the dad, stepmom, and daughter at the playground. The dad tells his daughter to go play. What the fuck is this? She is literately playing on the playground as a child. It's one of the most disturbing trailers that I have every watched.

[Raziel]

okay.

[blackchubby38]

I would need to see said trailer before I answer the question. You know for science.

Upon further review, no Trans 500 didn't cross line with that roleplay scenario.

On a related note, when did Mark Anthony start working in TS porn?

[lg775n]

"Trans500 is the most disgusting porn site in the industry"

you haven't seen much porn

[TSPornFan]

I would need to see said trailer before I answer the question. You know for science.

Upon further review, no Trans 500 didn't cross line with that roleplay scenario.

On a related note, when did Mark Anthony start working in TS porn?

Why do you think it is okay for a pornstar to play as a minor?

[blackchubby38]

Why do you think it is okay for a pornstar to play as a minor?

Because its fantasy and not reality. Besides nowhere in the trailer did it say the girl was underage. Just because she was playing on a playground, doesn't mean she was actually a minor in the scenario.

[nysprod]

I'm personally not comfortable with the idea, although I think it's something pron producers would make money with.

[TSPornFan]

Because its fantasy and not reality. Besides nowhere in the trailer did it say the girl was underage. Just because she was playing on a playground, doesn't mean she was actually a minor in the scenario.

What adult plays like a child on a playground? The dad tells her to go play. Who tells an adult to go play? The symbolism displays her as a minor.

Look further in the trailer when she sees her stepmom having sex. She acts as if she has no idea what sex is and wants to try it. Worst of all she sits in her dad's lap like a kid.

[blackchubby38]

What adult plays like a child on a playground? The dad tells her to go play. Who tells an adult to go play? The symbolism displays her as a minor.

Look further in the trailer when she sees her stepmom having sex. She acts as if she has no idea what sex is and wants to try it. Worst of all she sits in her dad's lap like a kid.

I know, I watched the whole trailer and simply don't think they crossed a line. Lets be honest, since the late 1990s', the porn industry has pushed the boundaries when it comes the teen genre. I remember watching a scene back in 2001 where Belladonna basically picks up a girl who is riding a tricycle. So this is nothing new.

I think you're being a little over dramatic.

[adfan]

I would need to see said trailer before I answer the question. You know for science.

Upon further review, no Trans 500 didn't cross line with that roleplay scenario.

On a related note, when did Mark Anthony start working in TS porn?

^^ yea right I was kind of shocked to see mark anthony doing ts porn, u know he is gonna take some major heat from his peers. so give him credit to be brave enough to fuck trannys in the ass.

[christianxxx]

I think you're being a little over dramatic.

and in other news, the world is round

[xuto]

There is more than one. Hope they take them down.

[Lester316]

Peeked at this just to see if the OP was being over dramatic or not and I must admit I found it a bit unsettling to say the least. Picking an actress who looks probably 3 quarters the height of everyone else in the scene and have them literally 'go play' at a playground by skipping around and going up the climbing frame to the slide whilst the 'parents' talk just sends all the wrong messages.

I'm all for defending porn, creativity and freedom to present niche topics but this just sets a bad symbolic standard. Whether it was straight, gay, TS or whatever this type of imagery is not in my view something that should be seen as acceptable.

For those suggesting Mark Anthony will take 'major heat' for appearing in TS porn isn't it a sad state of affairs to think he will be judged for that rather than for appearing in something that blatantly depicts one of the performers as a child? I for one won't be frequenting that site again.

[maleforts]

Many mainstream films have touched on the same subject. All she is dressed to look you get u can clearly see she over age.

Not a movie for me though.

[christianxxx]

I have said this before and I will say it again. As porn continues to contract inward and the amount of work available decreases, you are going to see more and more straight male performer cross the line. Because getting out of porn is always impossible for guys once they have been in for a year or so. Giovanni, Kurt Lockwood, Ramon, Mark Anthony, and there will be more in the future.

[GodMode]

Going too far is actually having 12 year old's on film.

[TSPornFan]

I have said this before and I will say it again. As porn continues to contract inward and the amount of work available decreases, you are going to see more and more straight male performer cross the line. Because getting out of porn is always impossible for guys once they have been in for a year or so. Giovanni, Kurt Lockwood, Ramon, Mark Anthony, and there will be more in the future.

Oh god not Ramon. Straight porn can keep their worst performers!

[nysprod]

I just looked at the trailer...personally, I think it's depraved and way over the line on multiple levels...it can only appeal to the most disgusting among us.

[dreamon]

It's a weird concept that I don't find hot at all but it's not really crossing the line. I'm pretty sure Japanese hentai has been doing this for years.

[blackchubby38]

I have said this before and I will say it again. As porn continues to contract inward and the amount of work available decreases, you are going to see more and more straight male performer cross the line. Because getting out of porn is always impossible for guys once they have been in for a year or so. Giovanni, Kurt Lockwood, Ramon, Mark Anthony, and there will be more in the future.


Oh god not Ramon. Straight porn can keep their worst performers!

I don't think he is referring to Ramon Namor.

[GroobySteven]

I don't need to watch it and I agree with the OP. Dressing a girl up as a schoolgirl is one thing, I've seen 50 yr olds dressed up as schoolgirls but portraying a character as underage isn't only morally wrong (suggesting it's ok to have sex or to fantasize about someone who is underage) but I believe there is also legal precedent on this, so they're casting a bad light on the whole industry.

Yes it should be clear it's fantasy, yes the girl is of age but the suggestion and portrayal that she isn't, is the issue.

[hardharry585]

i never noticed- the audio is usually muted and i skip to 30 seconds before the end

[RallyCola]

i'm shocked no one really cares about the hint of incest because not only is it an under-aged depiction...but a "father" watches his "daughter" fuck his wife???

i must say that i have not yet seen this scene or trailer but i don't have to. it does not sound appealing at all.

[KellyKlaymour]

Oh man...that trailer was really tough to make it through:(

This is probably where I'm about to burn any chance of getting work from them, but oh well. They haven't hired me ever anyways:

I can't wrap my head around if this is completely, utterly, morally wrong, or helping undesirables not act on their impulses.. Does smut like this, "limp fetish", etc help curb people with paedophilic or rapist tendencies by letting them live it out in fantasy? Or does it perpetuate their desires to act on their impulses? I remember going to therapy in my teenage years and the shrink led me to believe masturbating to an idea only reinforced, and deeply rooted the thought.

Does anyone know of any reliable literature on this?

[TSPornFan]

i'm shocked no one really cares about the hint of incest because not only is it an under-aged depiction...but a "father" watches his "daughter" fuck his wife???

i must say that i have not yet seen this scene or trailer but i don't have to. it does not sound appealing at all.

Incest and taboo porn (the niche includes step-relatives) is EXTREMELY popular. It's one of the best selling niches in straight porn right now. Go to the clips store and you will see the top stores sell incest themed porn. Even larger companies are jumping into the incest market.

[lifeisfiction]

Porn has been doing it for years and one of the biggest selling categories is barely legal/teen. It's not new and in fact Devil Film's has the baby sitter series and sometimes you have to wonder in some scenes what are they thinking in that area. The whole mother/step daughter sex thing is rampant as well. I don't care for those genres, but there will always be porn that you just have to say wow. Honestly, people have some strange fantasies. Just look at some of theirs on this forum.

And lets not get into some of parodies, I mean when you know the characters they are portraying you have to say. Really, this is nothing new and people have all sorts of weird fantasies.

I mean if people are getting upset now, it feels people are sort of late to the party.

[runningdownthatdream]

Yes I think they crossed the line. They might want to check into the charges that sent Max Hardcore to prison because they may have committed similar crime. I think I'm fairly open when it comes to porn and have watched the 'barely legal' type scenes but i can't recall seeing anything that blatantly came across as pedo porn quite the way this one did. That's mainly due to the attention to detail they put into the scene. Until the 'kid's' shirt came off there was little to suggest from look and actions that she was anything other than under 13 years old.

Leaves me wondering whether the producer/director may have actually been involved with underage porn.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

I really thought that was a kid for a second. She's like 4 feet tall.

[lifeisfiction]

And no one remember Little Lupe and that network had a ton of people portraying really young girls. I mean are people's memory that short. Even more recently Mom bang teens on Reality Kings. This isn't nothing new. Hell even one guy was charge with possession of child pornography for accessing Lupe Fuentes (Little Lupe) website. Well we will not talk about the whole other mess tied to her and Interpol. Different story. Girls dressed in pig tails and sucking on lollipops. And met-art in the old days use to cater to that whole young looking girl thing. At least the girls look little older these days. I could make a long list of it, but yeah there will always be parts of porn that make people really really uncomfortable. Like 90 year old man with a young girl or Gilf, yeah let me stop their. When an old women removes her teeth for a blow job. That's when I feel that I have seen too much porn.

[red-cyberman]

Well I don't like that kind of porn. Well it's been awhile since the last time I watched some porn. I like to watch trans500 but it's been more than 3 months that I watched that site. The last thing I watched was Jessy Dubai and Eva Lin. What's the name of the scene you're talking about?

[Ben in LA]

Well I don't like that kind of porn. Well it's been awhile since the last time I watched some porn. I like to watch trans500 but it's been more than 3 months that I watched that site. The last thing I watched was Jessy Dubai and Eva Lin. What's the name of the scene you're talking about?

Just head to the site; it's their latest scene.

I didn't even realize Mark Anthony was still doing porn.

And yes, that DOES cross the line.

[cantona5]

agreed....it crosses the line. end of.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

And no one remember Little Lupe and that network had a ton of people portraying really young girls. I mean are people's memory that short. Even more recently Mom bang teens on Reality Kings. This isn't nothing new. Hell even one guy was charge with possession of child pornography for accessing Lupe Fuentes (Little Lupe) website. Well we will not talk about the whole other mess tied to her and Interpol. Different story. Girls dressed in pig tails and sucking on lollipops. And met-art in the old days use to cater to that whole young looking girl thing. At least the girls look little older these days. I could make a long list of it, but yeah there will always be parts of porn that make people really really uncomfortable. Like 90 year old man with a young girl or Gilf, yeah let me stop their. When an old women removes her teeth for a blow job. That's when I feel that I have seen too much porn.
Looking at you avatar lead me to believe you've already seen such horror. :nervous:

[Mr. Yates]

Not really, no. Sounds like you just needed a soapbox to stand on.

[lifeisfiction]

Looking at you avatar lead me to believe you've already seen such horror. :nervous:

My avatars are usually silly. I tend to change them a lot. I just like the fact that granny is at a strip club in a cat sweater. I didn't say grandma can't get her freak on, I just don't want to see it. You must of missed my other strange avatars. I will probably be changing this one to something even weirder. Then again you're new. You should see my collection of strange photos I have been collecting for years. Now if I can the photo of the woman with condom wall to work that might be the next one up.

[bassman2546]

I'm on the fence with this one. Part of me thinks this really pushes the limit only to push it further next time. But...

As previously mentioned, there have been countless depictions of similar porn over the years. The Barely Legal series has been out for decades. Mother/Daughter both stepdaughter and biological fiction are popular as hell these days and have many series dedicated to them. Hop over to Europe or South America and you can find actual incest with twins and parent/sibling porn, arguably if you can decipher their ID actually matches them as family members.

So with all this out there, I'm thinking that although this scene from Trans500 is in poor taste, is it a huge deal compared to other porn out there.

One has to decide if they are truly against this or are they vetoing it to make themselves feel better about the porn they watch personally.

[TSPornFan]

And no one remember Little Lupe and that network had a ton of people portraying really young girls. I mean are people's memory that short. Even more recently Mom bang teens on Reality Kings. This isn't nothing new. Hell even one guy was charge with possession of child pornography for accessing Lupe Fuentes (Little Lupe) website. Well we will not talk about the whole other mess tied to her and Interpol. Different story. Girls dressed in pig tails and sucking on lollipops. And met-art in the old days use to cater to that whole young looking girl thing. At least the girls look little older these days. I could make a long list of it, but yeah there will always be parts of porn that make people really really uncomfortable. Like 90 year old man with a young girl or Gilf, yeah let me stop their. When an old women removes her teeth for a blow job. That's when I feel that I have seen too much porn.

I've seen Mom Bang Teens and its scenes do not have teens acting as children. It's very taboo with the step-mother having sexual relations with her step-daughter.

I never paid attention to Lupe and know very little about her.

[dreamon]

Yes I think they crossed the line. They might want to check into the charges that sent Max Hardcore to prison because they may have committed similar crime. I think I'm fairly open when it comes to porn and have watched the 'barely legal' type scenes but i can't recall seeing anything that blatantly came across as pedo porn quite the way this one did. That's mainly due to the attention to detail they put into the scene. Until the 'kid's' shirt came off there was little to suggest from look and actions that she was anything other than under 13 years old.

Leaves me wondering whether the producer/director may have actually been involved with underage porn.

Max Hardcore was sent to prison regarding charges related to fisting, vomiting and pissing.

When he was prosecuted by the City for portraying a child in a porno, it was taken to the US Supreme Court and the Supreme Court said it is legal to have adults portray children.

[Instrumental]

They didn't cross a line. All parties are consenting adults, therefore no exploitation is taking place. Plenty of films depict, embellish, and glorify awful illegal acts; this is no different.

[bassman2546]

Max Hardcore was sent to prison regarding charges related to fisting, vomiting and pissing.

When he was prosecuted by the City for portraying a child in a porno, it was taken to the US Supreme Court and the Supreme Court said it is legal to have adults portray children.

Then that settles that. End of discussion.

[Lester316]

What concerns me in this thread are the arguments which basically say things such as (I'm paraphrasing by the way):

'Worse stuff is allowed/I've seen worse/worse things are legal'

'X person was charged with other things but not this so it's OK'

'These sort of depictions occur in mainstream entertainment'

The problem for me with these sort of arguments is they completely remove the specific topic from any context and seem to forget what is morally right as opposed to what the law is able to enforce. Yes actors have been portrayed in drama over the years as the underage person in a sexual relationship but the context of that (in any example I can remember) hasn't been to glorify said relationship or suggest that it is morally acceptable. Yes worse things do happen and are legal but that doesn't mean those things or this are really OK.

I'd hope that all of who come here would want TS porn, performers and watchers to be more socially accepted. Mainstream porn-stars have become genuine stars in recent years, less stigmatized for choosing a career that involves sex; Transgender porn and Transgender issues in general should be more socially accepted also but the world is still full of too many people who can't/won't accept there is nothing wrong with enjoying the beauty of a Transgender person. Anything that has even the slightest whiff of pedophilia about it is just adding fuel to the fire which the those people are building.

The Trans500 trailer/video in question (I can't speak to their other similar content) crosses the line. You might think it doesn't, you might think other things are worse, you might say she's an adult pretending to be a child; that's your opinion. But ask yourself one question - am I turned on by seeing someone who looks like a child (not an of age teenager), who plays on a climbing frame, having sex?

If your answer is yes well... that just plain creeps me out. Perhaps you don't think the Trans500 video crosses the line because you are so far over the line with it you can't see the line anymore.

[Odelay]

What concerns me in this thread are the arguments which basically say things such as (I'm paraphrasing by the way):

'Worse stuff is allowed/I've seen worse/worse things are legal'

'X person was charged with other things but not this so it's OK'

'These sort of depictions occur in mainstream entertainment'

The problem for me with these sort of arguments is they completely remove the specific topic from any context and seem to forget what is morally right as opposed to what the law is able to enforce. Yes actors have been portrayed in drama over the years as the underage person in a sexual relationship but the context of that (in any example I can remember) hasn't been to glorify said relationship or suggest that it is morally acceptable. Yes worse things do happen and are legal but that doesn't mean those things or this are really OK.

I'd hope that all of who come here would want TS porn, performers and watchers to be more socially accepted. Mainstream porn-stars have become genuine stars in recent years, less stigmatized for choosing a career that involves sex; Transgender porn and Transgender issues in general should be more socially accepted also but the world is still full of too many people who can't/won't accept there is nothing wrong with enjoying the beauty of a Transgender person. Anything that has even the slightest whiff of pedophilia about it is just adding fuel to the fire which the those people are building.

The Trans500 trailer/video in question (I can't speak to their other similar content) crosses the line. You might think it doesn't, you might think other things are worse, you might say she's an adult pretending to be a child; that's your opinion. But ask yourself one question - am I turned on by seeing someone who looks like a child (not an of age teenager), who plays on a climbing frame, having sex?

If your answer is yes well... that just plain creeps me out. Perhaps you don't think the Trans500 video crosses the line because you are so far over the line with it you can't see the line anymore.
Very well said.

Trans500 as the relatively new kid on the block seems to be pushing the envelope and crossing some pretty tasteless boundaries in the process. Kink has shown you can be pretty edgy without crossing those lines. But since TS Seduction is well established, Trans500 seems to be trying to out kink-Kink.

[Post Op Preferred]

Trans 500 could be vulnerable under 18 U. S. C. §2252A, which provides:

"(a) Any person who--

"(3) knowingly--

.     .     .     .     .

"(B) advertises, promotes, presents, distributes, or solicits through the mails, or in interstate or foreign commerce by any means, including by computer, any material or purported material in a manner that reflects the belief, or that is intended to cause another to believe, that the material or purported material is, or contains--

"(i) an obscene visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or

"(ii) a visual depiction of an actual minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct,

.     .     .     .     .

"shall be punished as provided in subsection (b)." §2252A(a)(3)(B) (2000 ed., Supp. V).

Section 2256(2)(A) defines "sexually explicit conduct" as

"actual or simulated--

"(i) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;

"(ii) bestiality;

"(iii) masturbation;

"(iv) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or

"(v) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person."

Violation of §2252A(a)(3)(B) incurs a minimum sentence of 5 years imprisonment and a maximum of 20 years. 18 U. S. C. §2252A(b)(1).
The Supreme Court upheld this statute in 2008 in United States v. Williams,
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=000&invol=06-694&friend=public.
So Trans 500 may be charged with something more serious than bad taste.

[TSPornFan]

What concerns me in this thread are the arguments which basically say things such as (I'm paraphrasing by the way):

'Worse stuff is allowed/I've seen worse/worse things are legal'

'X person was charged with other things but not this so it's OK'

'These sort of depictions occur in mainstream entertainment'

The problem for me with these sort of arguments is they completely remove the specific topic from any context and seem to forget what is morally right as opposed to what the law is able to enforce. Yes actors have been portrayed in drama over the years as the underage person in a sexual relationship but the context of that (in any example I can remember) hasn't been to glorify said relationship or suggest that it is morally acceptable. Yes worse things do happen and are legal but that doesn't mean those things or this are really OK.

I'd hope that all of who come here would want TS porn, performers and watchers to be more socially accepted. Mainstream porn-stars have become genuine stars in recent years, less stigmatized for choosing a career that involves sex; Transgender porn and Transgender issues in general should be more socially accepted also but the world is still full of too many people who can't/won't accept there is nothing wrong with enjoying the beauty of a Transgender person. Anything that has even the slightest whiff of pedophilia about it is just adding fuel to the fire which the those people are building.

The Trans500 trailer/video in question (I can't speak to their other similar content) crosses the line. You might think it doesn't, you might think other things are worse, you might say she's an adult pretending to be a child; that's your opinion. But ask yourself one question - am I turned on by seeing someone who looks like a child (not an of age teenager), who plays on a climbing frame, having sex?

If your answer is yes well... that just plain creeps me out. Perhaps you don't think the Trans500 video crosses the line because you are so far over the line with it you can't see the line anymore.

Well said Lester! The problem I have with Trans500 is the message in the video. The message says it is okay to have sex with a kid. That's very wrong on so many levels. This type of message needs to stay far away from porn. It looks bad on the entire industry.

Sure under aged relationships have been displayed in mainstream media. However, they are not celebrated. They are looked down upon and the adult character always get punished by the law.


Very well said.

Trans500 as the relatively new kid on the block seems to be pushing the envelope and crossing some pretty tasteless boundaries in the process. Kink has shown you can be pretty edgy without crossing those lines. But since TS Seduction is well established, Trans500 seems to be trying to out kink-Kink.

I've only watch Trans500's scenes with American girls except for this trailer that appeared to be off when I say the picture. What else have they done to push the envelope?

[MrBest]

tspornfan what are you going to do about it besides creating threads of your further dislike of trans500?

[James Scott]

I'm guessing no one actually watched the scene? They clearly say she's 18 during it, so there is no case here. Just an 18 year old playing on a jungle gym. Say what you want about that, but that's really all you have.

[christianxxx]

If your answer is yes well... that just plain creeps me out. Perhaps you don't think the Trans500 video crosses the line because you are so far over the line with it you can't see the line anymore.

I understand your argument, but you don't understand porn if you make this statement. Porn has ALWAYS been about a fantasy and let's face it, older men fantasize about fucking teenage girls.

Why do you think Jenna Haze was so popular? Dakota Sky? Lupe Fuentes? Kitty? Kat? There are endless examples of 18-19 year old girls that look like they are 12 who become wildly popular bc old men jerk off to watching super young girls get fucked by big dicks, black dicks, any dicks.

Do I think the scene in question is in poor taste? Definitely, its stupid and doesn't make much sense to me. Does it cross some imaginary line? Not in my opinion. Just because someone plays on a playground doesn't mean she is some sort of baby. I play video games in an arcade designed for 12 year olds too. Would everyone be up in arms if she was playing super Mario Kart as an intro?

And now as porn has undergone a paradigm shift and because even MORE geared toward all natural young teens (x-art, babes, passion-HD, nubiles, etc etc) you are seeing even MORE of young girls designed to look as young as possible getting fucked.

[lifeisfiction]

I understand your argument, but you don't understand porn if you make this statement. Porn has ALWAYS been about a fantasy and let's face it, older men fantasize about fucking teenage girls.

Why do you think Jenna Haze was so popular? Dakota Sky? Lupe Fuentes? Kitty? Kat? There are endless examples of 18-19 year old girls that look like they are 12 who become wildly popular bc old men jerk off to watching super young girls get fucked by big dicks, black dicks, any dicks.

Do I think the scene in question is in poor taste? Definitely, its stupid and doesn't make much sense to me. Does it cross some imaginary line? Not in my opinion. Just because someone plays on a playground doesn't mean she is some sort of baby. I play video games in an arcade designed for 12 year olds too. Would everyone be up in arms if she was playing super Mario Kart as an intro?

And now as porn has undergone a paradigm shift and because even MORE geared toward all natural young teens (x-art, babes, passion-HD, nubiles, etc etc) you are seeing even MORE of young girls designed to look as young as possible getting fucked.

Exactly. Porn is fantasy, it has always been fantasy. Maybe you will agree with me that some people are wanting porn to be political correct for some reason.

[Post Op Preferred]

I am all for the first amendment, but just so you know, there is no statute of limitations on violations of 18 U. S. C. §2252A, meaning that a scene can be subject to prosecution forever. We may temporarily take comfort in the preoccupation of Obama nominated AG with financial and terrorism crimes, but would you feel that way about the AG under President Ted Cruz, Scott Walker or Jeb Bush? Register, and vote carefully, and don't discount a change of colors in the White House to mirror both chambers of our Congre$$.

[dreamon]

Trans 500 could be vulnerable under 18 U. S. C. §2252A, which provides:

"(a) Any person who--

"(3) knowingly--

.     .     .     .     .

"(B) advertises, promotes, presents, distributes, or solicits through the mails, or in interstate or foreign commerce by any means, including by computer, any material or purported material in a manner that reflects the belief, or that is intended to cause another to believe, that the material or purported material is, or contains--

"(i) an obscene visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or

"(ii) a visual depiction of an actual minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct,

.     .     .     .     .

"shall be punished as provided in subsection (b)." §2252A(a)(3)(B) (2000 ed., Supp. V).

Section 2256(2)(A) defines "sexually explicit conduct" as

"actual or simulated--

"(i) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;

"(ii) bestiality;

"(iii) masturbation;

"(iv) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or

"(v) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person."

Violation of §2252A(a)(3)(B) incurs a minimum sentence of 5 years imprisonment and a maximum of 20 years. 18 U. S. C. §2252A(b)(1).
The Supreme Court upheld this statute in 2008 in United States v. Williams,
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=000&invol=06-694&friend=public.
So Trans 500 may be charged with something more serious than bad taste.

Erm... did you read the US v. Williams decision?

From your own link: The Court held the Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition decision and stated that USC 2252 A(a)(3)(B)only applies to pornography depicting actual minors.

The exception to the general rule rests not on the content of the picture but on the need to foil the exploitation of child subjects, Ferber, 458 U. S., at 759 (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?friend=public&navby=case&court=US&vol=458&page=759)-760, and the justification limits the exception: only pornographic photographs of actual children may be prohibited, see id., at 763, 764; Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition, 535 U. S. 234, 249-251 (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?friend=public&navby=case&court=US&vol=535&invol=234&pageno=249) (2002).

[lifeisfiction]

Dreamon, you will have to explain the court's understanding pornography on the Miller Test and to why courts have concluded in this particular manner. I like my first amendment law, but I think many people don't understand why the court case is significant.

I still can't figure people out. Mia Khalifa did a scene in which she wore a Muslim head dress during the performance. Some people where up in arms over it, but not one person thought wow, the scene was her portraying a teenager having sex with her stepmom and boyfriend. No one was up in arms over that so, like I said not every fantasy is for everyone. I don't expect everyone to like what I like and variety is the spice of life.

[Lester316]

I understand your argument, but you don't understand porn if you make this statement. Porn has ALWAYS been about a fantasy and let's face it, older men fantasize about fucking teenage girls.

Why do you think Jenna Haze was so popular? Dakota Sky? Lupe Fuentes? Kitty? Kat? There are endless examples of 18-19 year old girls that look like they are 12 who become wildly popular bc old men jerk off to watching super young girls get fucked by big dicks, black dicks, any dicks.

Do I think the scene in question is in poor taste? Definitely, its stupid and doesn't make much sense to me. Does it cross some imaginary line? Not in my opinion. Just because someone plays on a playground doesn't mean she is some sort of baby. I play video games in an arcade designed for 12 year olds too. Would everyone be up in arms if she was playing super Mario Kart as an intro?

And now as porn has undergone a paradigm shift and because even MORE geared toward all natural young teens (x-art, babes, passion-HD, nubiles, etc etc) you are seeing even MORE of young girls designed to look as young as possible getting fucked.

Got to say I agree with some of what you say Christian but disagree with some of the rest; either way you're a legend though. I understand porn, I understand the fantasy element just fine and you're 100% right about current trends and the fact that older men love the idea of fucking teenage girls. I think your gaming/Mario Kart analogy is flawed though; the essence of my issue is down to depiction, showing someone who is a teenager/adult gaming would to me signify the popularity of Geek culture (ie: on current trends) the depiction here (regardless of the dialogue) screams child. Playing on a playground doesn't mean someone is a baby but contextually I can't think of any cases where an adult/teenager on the playground isn't there supervising their toddler and perhaps on the actual apparatus to make sure they don't have an accident or whatever. In this trailer she is made to look childlike; she is noticeably shorter than her 'parents', hops and skips around, and plays on her own clearly for her enjoyment. I know others won't agree but to me the way she acts just doesn't fit with someone who would be of legal and consenting age. I can't speak for other countries but here in the UK the legal age of consent is 16 and I can't think of anyone that age I know who acts the way shown in that part of the trailer.


I'm guessing no one actually watched the scene? They clearly say she's 18 during it, so there is no case here. Just an 18 year old playing on a jungle gym. Say what you want about that, but that's really all you have.

I watched the trailer. They can say she is 18 but that just masks the true intention. 'Just an 18 year old playing on a jungle gym' - can you think of many 18 year old people who would willingly be seen doing such a thing? The depiction doesn't fit with the dialogue one bit, she isn't acting like an 18 year old. Also (I know I'm being harsh here but..) saying 'just an 18 year old ... that's really all you have' has the same connotations as 'she told me she was 18 officer'.


Exactly. Porn is fantasy, it has always been fantasy. Maybe you will agree with me that some people are wanting porn to be political correct for some reason.

I couldn't care less about political correctness; but what's morally right is a different thing. I challenge anyone who thinks there is 100% nothing wrong with the trailer to show it to their peers and make the assertion to them it's just fantasy whilst informing them some people think the trailer crosses a line; if they all say 'oh she is clearly a teenage girl of 18 and isn't doing anything at all to act/appear like a child' I'll be stunned.


I don't expect everyone to like what I like and variety is the spice of life.

I 100% agree with that statement we don't all have to like the same things and should understand others enjoy things we don't. But if someone likes something that depicts a performer as a child that's where things cross the line for me. They can like it, I accept that there are people out there that do, I just can't accept that is morally not a bad thing in any way.

[MrBest]

Oh man...that trailer was really tough to make it through:(

This is probably where I'm about to burn any chance of getting work from them, but oh well. They haven't hired me ever anyways:

I can't wrap my head around if this is completely, utterly, morally wrong, or helping undesirables not act on their impulses.. Does smut like this, "limp fetish", etc help curb people with paedophilic or rapist tendencies by letting them live it out in fantasy? Or does it perpetuate their desires to act on their impulses? I remember going to therapy in my teenage years and the shrink led me to believe masturbating to an idea only reinforced, and deeply rooted the thought.

Does anyone know of any reliable literature on this?didnt you perform in jay sin ts playground?

http://smiliesftw.com/x/rolleyes1024.gif

[MrBest]

Oh man...that trailer was really tough to make it through:(

This is probably where I'm about to burn any chance of getting work from them, but oh well. They haven't hired me ever anyways:

I can't wrap my head around if this is completely, utterly, morally wrong, or helping undesirables not act on their impulses.. Does smut like this, "limp fetish", etc help curb people with paedophilic or rapist tendencies by letting them live it out in fantasy? Or does it perpetuate their desires to act on their impulses? I remember going to therapy in my teenage years and the shrink led me to believe masturbating to an idea only reinforced, and deeply rooted the thought.

Does anyone know of any reliable literature on this?


Got to say I agree with some of what you say Christian but disagree with some of the rest; either way you're a legend though. I understand porn, I understand the fantasy element just fine and you're 100% right about current trends and the fact that older men love the idea of fucking teenage girls. I think your gaming/Mario Kart analogy is flawed though; the essence of my issue is down to depiction, showing someone who is a teenager/adult gaming would to me signify the popularity of Geek culture (ie: on current trends) the depiction here (regardless of the dialogue) screams child. Playing on a playground doesn't mean someone is a baby but contextually I can't think of any cases where an adult/teenager on the playground isn't there supervising their toddler and perhaps on the actual apparatus to make sure they don't have an accident or whatever. In this trailer she is made to look childlike; she is noticeably shorter than her 'parents', hops and skips around, and plays on her own clearly for her enjoyment. I know others won't agree but to me the way she acts just doesn't fit with someone who would be of legal and consenting age. I can't speak for other countries but here in the UK the legal age of consent is 16 and I can't think of anyone that age I know who acts the way shown in that part of the trailer.



I watched the trailer. They can say she is 18 but that just masks the true intention. 'Just an 18 year old playing on a jungle gym' - can you think of many 18 year old people who would willingly be seen doing such a thing? The depiction doesn't fit with the dialogue one bit, she isn't acting like an 18 year old. Also (I know I'm being harsh here but..) saying 'just an 18 year old ... that's really all you have' has the same connotations as 'she told me she was 18 officer'.



I couldn't care less about political correctness; but what's morally right is a different thing. I challenge anyone who thinks there is 100% nothing wrong with the trailer to show it to their peers and make the assertion to them it's just fantasy whilst informing them some people think the trailer crosses a line; if they all say 'oh she is clearly a teenage girl of 18 and isn't doing anything at all to act/appear like a child' I'll be stunned.



I 100% agree with that statement we don't all have to like the same things and should understand others enjoy things we don't. But if someone likes something that depicts a performer as a child that's where things cross the line for me. They can like it, I accept that there are people out there that do, I just can't accept that is morally not a bad thing in any way.

did you enjoy this scene?

http://sarinavalentinablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/sarina-valentina-doll-01.jpg

[KellyKlaymour]

didnt you perform in jay sin ts playground?

I did indeed! I fail to see what that has to do with my comment about this trailer, as my scene partner and I didn't portray implied statutory rape of a child.

[KellyKlaymour]

did you enjoy this scene?


You literally linked this from Sarina Valentina's blog, that's not me.

[MrBest]

You literally linked this from Sarina Valentina's blog, that's not me.
i included your post by mistake

[MrBest]

I did indeed! I fail to see what that has to do with my comment about this trailer, as my scene partner and I didn't portray implied statutory rape of a child.
why did you decide to to work for ts playground if there are several scenes in the series with underage theme

[KellyKlaymour]

why did you decide to to work for ts playground if there are several scenes in the series with underage theme

I was, until you posted that picture of Sarina Valentina with the dollhouse, unaware they did themes portraying children. My scene did not. Had I showed up on set and learned that was to be the theme - I would have declined the scene and packed up on principle.

I'm not blasting Trans500 as a whole, as I wouldn't blast Evil Angel as a whole because of singular scenes. I'm merely criticizing this one scene, that the thread is about, in particular.

If you read the latter half of my comment, I left room for discussion about literature possibly supporting this type of porn as a way to curb immoral impulses.

Why are you using references of myself to attack a criticism of a scene I had nothing to do with?

[runningdownthatdream]

Clearly two very distinct and opposing opinions in this thread as to what constitutes 'the line' with respect to pedo porn. On one hand I agree that nothing illegal seems to have taken place as the actor portraying the pre-pubescent child must be at least 18 to have participated in the movie. However, if you enjoy watching porn that clearly depicts the seduction and subsequent rape of a convincingly pre-pubescent child, you might have a problem that needs addressing before you start looking for the real thing.

I understand Christian and MrYates' points but I also weigh them differently since their perspective is more tuned to the industry side of things although Steven also represents the industry and he thinks the scene went too far.

Sometimes drawing a line - imaginary or otherwise - as to what's right and what's wrong is all that keeps some of us clean. I hope that that those who view this scene as innocuous have enough self-restraint to keep from viewing the real thing or - at worst - producing the real thing.

[Post Op Preferred]

I respectfully disagree. Ashcroft spoke to an earlier statute, which this stature replaced. Its a question of the distributors's intent to cause the viewer to believe an underaged actor is engaged in sexual conduct. See the following, from $calia'$ majority opinion

Third, the phrase "in a manner that reflects the belief" includes both subjective and objective components. "[A] manner that reflects the belief" is quite different from "a manner that would give one cause to believe." The first formulation suggests that the defendant must actually have held the subjective "belief" that the material or purported material was child pornography. Thus, a misdescription that leads the listener to believe the defendant is offering child pornography, when the defendant in fact does not believe the material is child pornography, does not violate this prong of the statute. (It may, however, violate the "manner ... that is intended to cause another to believe" prong if the misdescription is intentional.) There is also an objective component to the phrase "manner that reflects the belief." The statement or action must objectively manifest a belief that the material is child pornography; a mere belief, without an accompanying statement or action that would lead a reasonable person
to understand that the defendant holds that belief, is insufficient.

Fourth, the other key phrase, "in a manner . . . that is intended to cause another to believe," contains only a subjective element: The defendant must "intend" that the listener believe the material to be child pornography, and must select a manner of "advertising, promoting, presenting, distributing, or soliciting" the material that he thinks will engender that belief--whether or not a reasonable person would think the same. (Of course in the ordinary case the proof of the defendant's intent will be the fact that, as an objective matter, the manner of "advertis-
ing, promoting, presenting, distributing, or soliciting" plainly sought to convey that the material was child
pornography.)

[Lester316]

did you enjoy this scene?

http://sarinavalentinablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/sarina-valentina-doll-01.jpg

I've never seen that scene or that image until now so no I haven't enjoyed it; but at least the performer in the picture (having not watched the scene I cannot comment beyond that) actually looks adult despite their outfit. As it thoroughly lacks any context - being just a picture - I suspect you might be attempting to troll by seeing what people say about it.

You seem to be missing the point however; we have been debating the specific Trans500 scene (those of us that object to believe) in which the performer is portraying a child. As Kelly stated the issue is the representation of statutory rape of said 'child'.

Oh and seeing as you asked if I enjoyed a scene how about you let us know whether you enjoyed the Trans500 scene we have been discussing? You'll be able to find the link in the thread of course and you have the context of the debate here to refer to; I'll be interested to see if you actually answer or not..

[Raziel]

where were you when this scene come out then ?
http://www.tsplayground.com/en/Izabelly-Marquesine-Set-1/scene/38613

[lifeisfiction]

where were you when this scene come out then ?
http://www.tsplayground.com/en/Izabelly-Marquesine-Set-1/scene/38613

Try this one
http://www.tsplayground.com/en/Izabelly-Marquesine-Set-2/scene/39291

Still don't get people.

I know Franklin is mad at Trans500, because they didn't film enough of Eva Lin and now those type of scenes will not be made and she has retired from doing porn in general, So if he can't get nay pre-op, he won't even get to see any post-op scenes. It has left him bitter with the site. Of course in a year from now he will move on to next performer who satisfies his fancy, lol.

[lifeisfiction]

And ssssh, even Grooby has it on Shemale Japan. http://www.shemale-japan.com/tour/features/uniforms-and-cosplay/ Just saying folks. I don't care if the performer looks young or is older women dress like a teen we all know what fantasy they are portraying. Almost every company has it and it is one of the biggest sellers for the industry. Its the most desirable fantasy. Its not my cup of tea, but I would put money that almost everyone at some point has watched a scene portraying that fantasy.

[Lester316]

I'm sure if people take time to look for links to other trailers/videos they will no doubt find quite a few that have similar themes but finding out there is a proliferation of something still in no way makes it OK.

The subject matter might be popular, even profitable for some but implying that makes it acceptable just doesn't sit well with me. By that logic pornography which has actual children in it would be allowed seeing as we are all aware there are plenty of people across the world who like watching it.

[lifeisfiction]

I'm sure if people take time to look for links to other trailers/videos they will no doubt find quite a few that have similar themes but finding out there is a proliferation of something still in no way makes it OK.

The subject matter might be popular, even profitable for some but implying that makes it acceptable just doesn't sit well with me. By that logic pornography which has actual children in it would be allowed seeing as we are all aware there are plenty of people across the world who like watching it.

There in lies the question does fantasy = reality. Video games are violent gory and depict acts of mass violence. Does that mean if you play video games you are likely to kill someone in real life? This argument that has been going on for ages. Porn is escapism, do I enjoy all the acts depicted in porn. No, but what would think is too much another may think is just fine. Some things people will find morally reprehensible.

If you think is the only theme porn that is weird, then you haven't been watching much porn.

[TSPornFan]

Do I think the scene in question is in poor taste? Definitely, its stupid and doesn't make much sense to me. Does it cross some imaginary line? Not in my opinion. Just because someone plays on a playground doesn't mean she is some sort of baby. I play video games in an arcade designed for 12 year olds too. Would everyone be up in arms if she was playing super Mario Kart as an intro?


You can't compare video games to playing on monkey bars. Video games are for people of all ages. There are many M rated games for adults only because they have extreme violence and sexual themes. Playgrounds are not socially acceptable for adults to play around.

You're also ignoring the part when he tells her to "go play", when she sits in daddy's lap like a kid, and looks very confused about sex. Who tells an 18 year old to go play on the playground? No one tells an 18 year old male or female to do that.

[adfan]

it could have been worse, trans500 could have portrayed a politician and a lawyer as honest people

[Lester316]

There in lies the question does fantasy = reality. Video games are violent gory and depict acts of mass violence. Does that mean if you play video games you are likely to kill someone in real life? This argument that has been going on for ages. Porn is escapism, do I enjoy all the acts depicted in porn. No, but what would think is too much another may think is just fine. Some things people will find morally reprehensible.

If you think is the only theme porn that is weird, then you haven't been watching much porn.


Your logic with the video games comparison is flawed. Video games have computer generated characters and events which can't be mistaken for reality whilst actors and actresses on screen/film are actually real people playing a part which can be mistaken for the real thing; the very point to the argument here is that the performer is clearly trying to look and act like a child.

Also the link to video game players acting out 'killing' fantasies in real life is one born from sensationalism at best, when a murderer goes on a killing spree the media runs to shout video games are the cause but I can't recall one case where psychiatrists have proven a causal link between the two. In contrast as mentioned earlier in this thread it is a known fact that pedophiles have escalated their fantasies in the past by imagining adults playing the child role (for example with pornography in which an adult portrays a child) all the way up to actually participating in the filming of real and horrific child involved sex acts.

Billions of normal people watch films and TV shows, read books and play video games which include graphic scenes of murder and violence. Statistically as so many people do that some of those people end up committing acts of violence, some of those people aren't normal.

No normal people enjoy child pornography or pornography where someone is pretending to be a child suffering from a statutory rape. That's what pedophiles enjoy - that is the clear distinction.

Plenty of porn is weird; that's fine. Porn for pedophiles isn't.

[lifeisfiction]

You can't compare video games to playing on monkey bars. Video games are for people of all ages. There are many M rated games for adults only because they have extreme violence and sexual themes. Playgrounds are not socially acceptable for adults to play around.

You're also ignoring the part when he tells her to "go play", when she sits in daddy's lap like a kid, and looks very confused about sex. Who tells an 18 year old to go play on the playground? No one tells an 18 year old male or female to do that.

Maybe I am showing my age, but there was huge uproar over video games. Tipper Gore lead the attack on games in the 90's saying that games would cause kids to act violently (and in fact went after certain music genres as well). Even when Columbine happened, there was a lot of people saying that video games (Doom, Wolfenstein) are causing kids to act violently. That the youth of America could not separate reality from fantasy. Yes this was huge. So when you say video games are generated images, yea sure. Go look up Manhunt (I actually own the game and even look zero punctuations review of the game) or the attacks against the GTA series, yea there are people who think video games cause violence.

Just because many of us play video games including myself and have grown up playing video games, it does not mean many video games are not violent, gory and have mass killing. You would be a fool. Still, I don't see people running out to kill people. Yes even killers play video games as well.

Porn in the same manner is fantasy. I am certainly sure most people are not looking to do the same acts in porn, but its the entertainment value. It appeals to those fantasies people will not act out or would never be interested. Of course some fantasies are way taboo. Does that mean people are going to be doing it. As much as the teen thing is a funky category, I will never say that because some watches it, it makes them pedophile.

Lets get our facts correct on fantasy.

If we say that, then we can simply say if you enjoy killing people in video games, then you probably will enjoy killing some in real life. Of course people understand fantasy. It has always been the case.

[lifeisfiction]

Your logic with the video games comparison is flawed. Video games have computer generated characters and events which can't be mistaken for reality whilst actors and actresses on screen/film are actually real people playing a part which can be mistaken for the real thing; the very point to the argument here is that the performer is clearly trying to look and act like a child.

Also the link to video game players acting out 'killing' fantasies in real life is one born from sensationalism at best, when a murderer goes on a killing spree the media runs to shout video games are the cause but I can't recall one case where psychiatrists have proven a causal link between the two. In contrast as mentioned earlier in this thread it is a known fact that pedophiles have escalated their fantasies in the past by imagining adults playing the child role (for example with pornography in which an adult portrays a child) all the way up to actually participating in the filming of real and horrific child involved sex acts.

Billions of normal people watch films and TV shows, read books and play video games which include graphic scenes of murder and violence. Statistically as so many people do that some of those people end up committing acts of violence, some of those people aren't normal.

No normal people enjoy child pornography or pornography where someone is pretending to be a child suffering from a statutory rape. That's what pedophiles enjoy - that is the clear distinction.

Plenty of porn is weird; that's fine. Porn for pedophiles isn't.

If normal people didn't like that porn, why is it one of the highest selling areas in porn?

[Lester316]

If normal people didn't like that porn, why is it one of the highest selling areas in porn?

Please lets make the distinction clear. You have suggested multiple times that Teen porn is popular and acceptable, at least I hope that is what you meant - I do not dispute that in any way. It's how we distinguish from Teen and Child that is the difference though.

Teen porn featuring performers playing characters of legal consenting age sits on the acceptable side of the line. I am saying that porn portraying children is not acceptable and clearly on the wrong side of the line. In the trailer we have been discussing the performer is stated to be 18 (clearly in my view to position the content as acceptable) but in every other way she is portrayed as a child. In the parts before the sex scene she acts, looks and behaves like a child. She plays at a playground, skips and hops around, sits in her 'father's' lap and acts as if the birds and the bees/sex education just hasn't been covered in her curriculum yet.

Even if you want to cling to the fact she is referred to as 18 years old within the trailer that just suggests the others in the scene are taking advantage of someone who is socially and mentally not as developed as an 18 should be; as they appear childlike; in that case frankly it's still just as wrong and just as creepy.

Her clear depiction as like a child is aimed at people who fantasize about sexual encounters with a child - those people are pedophiles.

Teen porn which features performers who, look act and behave as if they are 18 or 19 isn't aimed at pedophiles. That is the difference.

[lifeisfiction]

Well this isn't going to go anywhere fast, so lets agree to disagree.

[fred41]

......
Just because many of us play video games including myself and have grown up playing video games, it does not mean many video games are not violent, gory and have mass killing. You would be a fool. Still, I don't see people running out to kill people. Yes even killers play video games as well.

Porn in the same manner is fantasy. I am certainly sure most people are not looking to do the same acts in porn, but its the entertainment value. It appeals to those fantasies people will not act out or would never be interested. Of course some fantasies are way taboo. Does that mean people are going to be doing it. As much as the teen thing is a funky category, I will never say that because some watches it, it makes them pedophile.

Lets get our facts correct on fantasy.

If we say that, then we can simply say if you enjoy killing people in video games, then you probably will enjoy killing some in real life. Of course people understand fantasy. It has always been the case.

I would say that there is a bit of a difference here though...you may enjoy killing in a video game without killing in real life, but I would certainly hope that while you are shooting stuff up on the screen you aren't getting an erection doing it.
...and that's a pretty big difference.

[MrBest]

I'm sure if people take time to look for links to other trailers/videos they will no doubt find quite a few that have similar themes but finding out there is a proliferation of something still in no way makes it OK.

The subject matter might be popular, even profitable for some but implying that makes it acceptable just doesn't sit well with me. By that logic pornography which has actual children in it would be allowed seeing as we are all aware there are plenty of people across the world who like watching it.
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=7048

[transfan8591]

Fuck that...all of the porn flicks over the years that have
had the "Barely Legal/Teen" theme and there
is outrage about this?!?!...right....
The issue I have with Trans500 is why they
haven't given fans and update on rather Eva Lin
is officially retired or not...( I mean she is their first and only exclusive contract star)
I like the Big Booty branch of the site and the bomb ass Venus Lux scene.

[MrBest]

Fuck that...all of the porn flicks over the years that have
had the "Barely Legal/Teen" theme and there
is outrage about this?!?!...right....
The issue I have with Trans500 is why they
haven't given fans and update on rather Eva Lin
is officially retired or not...( I mean she is their first and only exclusive contract star)
I like the Big Booty branch of the site and the bomb ass Venus Lux scene.
imo tpornfan real beef w/trans500 is that ramone doesnt give head or bottom

[TSPornFan]

Fuck that...all of the porn flicks over the years that have
had the "Barely Legal/Teen" theme and there
is outrage about this?!?!...right....
The issue I have with Trans500 is why they
haven't given fans and update on rather Eva Lin
is officially retired or not...( I mean she is their first and only exclusive contract star)
I like the Big Booty branch of the site and the bomb ass Venus Lux scene.

We are NOT questioning barely legal teen porn. We are discussing UNDER AGED themed porn. There is a clear difference between barely legal (legal to fuck) and under age (NOT LEGAL. SHOULD NEVER BE LEGAL). It's one thing to portray a girl as an 18 year in college or secretly hooking up with her best friend's older dad. It's a problem when a kid is playing on the playground, being told by daddy to go play, sitting in daddy's lap, and confused about sex.


imo tpornfan real beef w/trans500 is that ramone doesnt give head or bottom

What is your opinion based on? I make a legit topic and you jump to the conclusion about why you think my reason for disliking Ramon as a performer. FYI I don't have a problem with male performers, who are disinterested in giving head or bottoming. I think Ramon is a horrible performer for being annoying and trying to put himself in the spotlight instead of the girls.

[nooneknowsme89]

Calm yourself, the age of the girl is not mentioned so you can't tell if she is underage, and btw Trans500.com has done alot in ts porn that has failed to deliver for the past 10 years. so i say your post is total bullshit.

[nooneknowsme89]

and btw what is the average age of school girls in U.S, i have seen alot of naughty school girls in straight porn getting ass fucked, that must be condemned too.

[MrBest]

Calm yourself, the age of the girl is not mentioned so you can't tell if she is underage, and btw Trans500.com has done alot in ts porn that has failed to deliver for the past 10 years. so i say your post is total bullshit.yeah but ramone doesnt give head

[krissy4u]

I'm bored.

And in other news, razors are now banned from usage by those involved in porn.

[ohioguy13]

I see your concern but with there being porn where grown people are in diapers acting like babies being fed from a bottle then getting out of a crib and getting it on or being disciplined. I don't see how an adult in a schoolgirl outfit can throw the porn industry into a nosedive.

[ktkraft]

actually watched the scene. its pretty hot. dont really think about the girls age when watching it. and havent had any thoughts of underage sex. think this is pretty overblown.

[Teydyn]

think this is pretty overblown.
And that comes as a surprise in a tspornfan topic? :)

[josehip]

Anyone knows the name of the girl with glasses?

[Instrumental]

She just goes by the name "Jenny"

[transfan8591]

Ramon don't have to give head or
bend over and take it if he don't want to....I don't and wouldn't
do it either....it ain't my thing.
Just because others do it...don't mean he has to
and as far as Mark Anthony goes...I was surprised when
I saw him pop up in that scene with Cindy Ramirez
for Trans500 (a hot scene by the way)...I didn't know
dude had crossed over into Transsexual porn, I don't blame him
because he has fucked some hot ones for Trans500(Lexi Beth Chacon, Dana Palacio, Jessi Martinez,
Cindy Ramirez and Sunday Valentina).

[Instrumental]

Ramon is probably my favorite male porn star right now. The his style and the I Kill It TS series are perfect for my tastes: Minimal foreplay, lots of fucking, he never bottoms and he packs some serious heat for the ladies. Plus he doesn't take himself too seriously.

[transfan8591]

Ramon is probably my favorite male porn star right now. The his style and the I Kill It TS series are perfect for my tastes: Minimal foreplay, lots of fucking, he never bottoms and he packs some serious heat for the ladies. Plus he doesn't take himself too seriously.

Same here....I think he has been one of the best performers
for a while..I think he's cool and he gives those sexy TGirls
the ass thrashing they need. It's hot watching those
cute Asian shemales and sexy fat booty Brazilian shemales takin' that long stroke.

[ktkraft]

Same here....I think he has been one of the best performers
for a while..I think he's cool and he gives those sexy TGirls
the ass thrashing they need. It's hot watching those
cute Asian shemales and sexy fat booty Brazilian shemales takin' that long stroke.

thsi is so strange to me since im exactly the opposite. i like to see a somewhat attractive male, at least average. its not like im looking at the guy so much but seeing his weird smile, he never gives them a rimjob and always has a condom. i barely watch his trans500 scenes for that

[transfan8591]

thsi is so strange to me since im exactly the opposite. i like to see a somewhat attractive male, at least average. its not like im looking at the guy so much but seeing his weird smile, he never gives them a rimjob and always has a condom. i barely watch his trans500 scenes for that

I am the opposite as well...I don't care what the
male performer looks like period...and think it's
smart for both parties to engage in safe sex...
some like to roll the dice...others don't.