Jamie Foxx transphobic rant at Iheart radio awards

[ohioguy13]

Not that he has ever been considered a king of comedy but Jamie Foxx is catching some heat for some transphobic comments he made about Bruce Jenner at the I heart radio awards last night. Even though Bruce has been very public about his transition. Jamie according to social media went over the line. Im curious does anyone else think he did it just to be edgy and controversial? Its not like his career has been cruising as of late.

[daltx_m]

I think he's a douche.

[giovanni_hotel]

I always wonder when someone on the inside in Hollyweird is so publicly against gays and transgenders. You know he's encountered TS during his Hollywood career, so why the teenage HS lockerroom transphobic rant?

Either Jamie Foxx is deflecting because of his own personal experiences, or he's simply a hateful, ignorant man.

Both scenarios sound realistic.

I don't like saying this about my people but a LOT of Black folk, particularly BM, are extremely homophobic and even projecting tolerance towards LGBTG is considered admitting one's own sexuality is in question.

Some people forget we live in 2015 and what was once acceptable to say publicly 5-10 years ago isn't today.

You can't get on a mike and bash gays and TS and not expect to catch hell for it.

No sympathy for him at all.

[christianxxx]

just to be clear, he made a singular joke about Bruce Jenner being both he and she and THAT is now classified as a "transphobic rant"? seriously? wow thats ridiculous

[gaysian71]

That hardly sounds like a rant or transphobic.

[giovanni_hotel]

LOL. I didn't hear the comment before posting.

Whoops.

[AdamCaligne]

just to be clear, he made a singular joke about Bruce Jenner being both he and she and THAT is now classified as a "transphobic rant"? seriously? wow thats ridiculous
This is definitely worth saying.

Jamie Foxx also has several comedy specials under his belt. This is pretty normal comedy from him. I'm not saying they're funny (nor am I defending the Bruce Jenner joke) but I just wouldn't call it a publicity stunt.

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First thing I wanted to know after reading the topic post is what he actually said since the topic creator conveniently omitted that pertinent detail. Good to know it was just an off hand joke by a guy who is known in part for not just being a an actor, but a comedic actor as well - another pertinent detail.

[gaysian71]

I remember when he was on In Living Color there was a bit where he played a black woman. I don't remember her name, but wasn't it laqueesha or something like that. I thought that and everything else on that show was pretty funny.

Oops. I just googled it. The name was Wanda, not laqueesha. Lol.

[dreamon]

He made a joke saying "We have a special performance from Bruce Jenner tonight- a his and her duet... performed by just him. I'm just kidding, nothing mean spirited here Bruce. I'm just busting your balls... while I still can."

[RallyCola]

He made a joke saying "We have a special performance from Bruce Jenner tonight- a his and her duet... performed by just him. I'm just kidding, nothing mean spirited here Bruce. I'm just busting your balls... while I still can."

i don't find that transphobic at all. in all honesty, if many comedians had to stop poking fun at other celebs dispositions, they would all lose 50% of their acts.

i hear countless tranny and shemale jokes at clubs in the city...along side black jokes, short jokes, jokes about women, jokes about disabled, gay jokes...etc. when it comes to comedy, nothing is sacred. it is all about the intent and delivery. it does not appear that jamie foxx intended on being insensitive, he just went for a low brow and easy target. the joke demonstrates his ability to craft a joke and perhaps speaks more to his inability to be more sophisticated or go after a more difficult target. that is all.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Found it funny. Love Jamie Foxx.

[SFlare]

He made a joke saying "We have a special performance from Bruce Jenner tonight- a his and her duet... performed by just him. I'm just kidding, nothing mean spirited here Bruce. I'm just busting your balls... while I still can."

LMAO!!! That's funny

[Jericho]

Same old shit, different day! :shrug

http://shirtoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/storm-in-a-teacup.jpg

[blackchubby38]

He made a joke saying "We have a special performance from Bruce Jenner tonight- a his and her duet... performed by just him. I'm just kidding, nothing mean spirited here Bruce. I'm just busting your balls... while I still can."

I think the OP needs to look up the word "rant" in the dictionary. Along with the word "joke".

[ohioguy13]

It was more then one joke and was just going off of the headline on CNN they called it a rant

[giovanni_hotel]

It was more then one joke and was just going off of the headline on CNN they called it a rant

Regardless, it was in bad taste.

Making a public joke about someone's very personal transition is difficult to pull off.

It was tacky and didn't need to be said.

[sucka4chix]

He made a joke saying "We have a special performance from Bruce Jenner tonight- a his and her duet... performed by just him. I'm just kidding, nothing mean spirited here Bruce. I'm just busting your balls... while I still can."

THANK YOU! I'm so tired of everybody trying to be a fucking activist! Stop trying to pick fights when there are none!! When there's really something to fight about you'll have lost your credibility. When did we become a society of people who are offended by every comedian anyway??? That's their job. If haters can hate and whiners can whine, fucking jokers can joke. It's called life. Stop being so Comicphobic!

[giovanni_hotel]

Not all jokes are funny or in good taste.

Being shocking or offensive isn't the standard comedians are trying to meet.

Good comedy uses sarcasm and irony to make people think about an issue in a different, more enlightened way.

The point of Jamie Foxx's joke from what I've read is that Bruce Jenner after he transitions used to have testicles.

I've heard much funnier TS jokes before.

[sucka4chix]

Ever heard of Don Rickles or Lisa Lampanelli??? Just because you don't think it's funny doesn't make their comedy actionable. Ever watched a roast?? Where's your outrage?? Hell, Bieber just got destroyed recently, did that cause outrage?? No, because he's not LGBT (that we know of) so its ok. Michael Jackson got ripped for his appearance and lawsuits infinitely more than Bruce Jenner. Your concern is so terribly subjective and hypocritical.

[livepersona]

I'm all for equal rights and thought it was hilarious. He's a comedian. Don't read too much into it.

[Sacha]

just to be clear, he made a singular joke about Bruce Jenner being both he and she and THAT is now classified as a "transphobic rant"? seriously? wow thats ridiculous
Thanks for putting everyone straight on this Christian.

[ohioguy13]

I wonder why it is we give comedians a pass on items we don't give anyone else a pass on? Its not even Jamie Foxx but everyone knows if say a conservative tv announcer made the exact same jokes (and Jamie's by the way brought the room silent) Would everyone would be so forgiving? It seems the world loves political correctness when its convenient but if some comedian makes a joke in bad taste we just let it slide and say oh cmon it was just a couple of jokes. Hes not a hater Lady Gaga took Kelly Osborne to task for saying downright mean and stupid shit on tv about people. And at first everyone was like oh cmon shes just like Joan Rivers (who was super funny RIP Joan!) But she wasn't. So for those of you who think its just a couple of jokes hey your entitled to your opinion. Maybe im reading to much into this but for all the talk about respecting others and changing the world I think you call it out for what it is. Just don't expect change in the world if your not willing to change it!

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Most people give comedians a pass when they're making jokes because by there very nature, they aren't sincere and the forum in which they're giving it isn't one that is serious and political in nature. You aren't changing the world by criticizing someone whose statements are taken in jest, you're just trying to flaunt your undeserved sense of moral superiority to people who don't give a shit. You want to change the world? Bring awareness to the words and actions of our congressmen and women whose job is to actually dictate how we are allowed to live our lives. Whining about a comedian making jokes isn't changing shit.

[blackchubby38]

I wonder why it is we give comedians a pass on items we don't give anyone else a pass on? Its not even Jamie Foxx but everyone knows if say a conservative tv announcer made the exact same jokes (and Jamie's by the way brought the room silent) Would everyone would be so forgiving? It seems the world loves political correctness when its convenient but if some comedian makes a joke in bad taste we just let it slide and say oh cmon it was just a couple of jokes. Hes not a hater Lady Gaga took Kelly Osborne to task for saying downright mean and stupid shit on tv about people. And at first everyone was like oh cmon shes just like Joan Rivers (who was super funny RIP Joan!) But she wasn't. So for those of you who think its just a couple of jokes hey your entitled to your opinion. Maybe im reading to much into this but for all the talk about respecting others and changing the world I think you call it out for what it is. Just don't expect change in the world if your not willing to change it!

1. You're reading too much into this.

2. Speaking for myself, if a conservative TV announcer did make the same joke, my reaction would still be the same. Its all about context and intent.

Now if a conservative TV host or Jamie Foxx for that matter went a on a real transphobic rant, my reaction then would be different.

3. Once again speaking for myself, I can't stand political correctness and believe that it has done more harm than good. Its a perfect example of the road to hell being paved by good intentions.

4. Trying to force homophobic and transphobic people into accepting the LBGT community by being as close minded as they are is the wrong way to go about it.

5. Actions speak louder than words. The real fight should be against those who would do real harm against the transgendered community. Whether its through physical violence or violating their civil rights. Not against a comedians who makes a joke about a one particular person.

[giovanni_hotel]

Something's funny until people say it's not funny.

Remember when Seinfeld's Michael Richards lost his mind on stage and nearly ended his career??
http://www.reputationdoctor.com/images/Richards-N-3.jpg

Just because you're trying to be funny doesn't mean you get a pass for being offensive.

Pulling off a joke about transpeople is hard mainly because the joke is built upon the assumption TS are really deep down their birth gender and not their transitioned selves.

That's why Jamie Foxx's joke wasn't funny.

Until more people understand what it means to be transgendered, comedians are better off steering clear from it.

Now if Jamie Foxx made a joke about TS mood swings because of HRT, or TS thinking all dudes into them are faggots, or their obsession with designer everything, or the plastic surgery addiction, etc., I could see the humor in that.

But a wink-wink joke that a TS is really a man/used to be a man is offensive.

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The only way I can see someone comparing Jamie Foxx's jokes here to Michael Richards' performance back then is if they don't understand the context of either.

[giovanni_hotel]

How many TS on this board have defended Jamie Foxx's joke in this thread???

The silence is deafening.

[blackchubby38]

Something's funny until people say it's not funny.

Remember when Seinfeld's Michael Richards lost his mind on stage and nearly ended his career??
http://www.reputationdoctor.com/images/Richards-N-3.jpg

Just because you're trying to be funny doesn't mean you get a pass for being offensive.

Pulling off a joke about transpeople is hard mainly because the joke is built upon the assumption TS are really deep down their birth gender and not their transitioned selves.

That's why Jamie Foxx's joke wasn't funny.

Until more people understand what it means to be transgendered, comedians are better off steering clear from it.

Now if Jamie Foxx made a joke about TS mood swings because of HRT, or TS thinking all dudes into them are faggots, or their obsession with designer everything, or the plastic surgery addiction, etc., I could see the humor in that.

But a wink-wink joke that a TS is really a man/used to be a man is offensive.

But who gets to decide what's funny or not. Comedy is very subjective. There are certain comedians who I just don't find funny. Yet they have an audience. The same goes for television shows and movies.

There wasn't nothing offensive about what Jamie Foxx said. He didn't use a slur against Bruce Jenner or against the TS community in general.

As for Micheal Richards incident, he lost his shit on stage because he was being heckled and got angry. Can anybody truly say they haven't had a moment in life where they said something they wish they could take back.

[giovanni_hotel]

Everything in life is subjective. The public creates our community standards, fair or not.

Somewhere, I'm sure, someone thought Michael Richards N-word rant was funny as hell.
But most didn't.

You think Jamie Foxx said was a brilliant joke about being TS.

I think it was much less than that.
I agree it wasn't a transphobic rant, but it was crass and insensitive.

Remember, the underlying crux of Jamie Foxx's joke was that even if a TS transitions, she's still a MAN.

Explain to me how that's funny in a public setting in front of a mixed audience??

It reminds me of a joke I heard years ago;

"What do you call a Black man with a PhD??


Still a N_gger."


LOLOLOL.
Not.

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How many TS on this board have defended Jamie Foxx's joke in this thread???

The silence is deafening.
Prime example of making a mountain out of a molehill.

[holzz]

free speech....

but then most top celebrities, white AND black, are kind of hypocrites since i bet they've hired TS escorts/porn stars and got fucked, fucked, and sucked some serious cock lol..

[blackchubby38]

Everything in life is subjective. The public creates our community standards, fair or not.

Somewhere, I'm sure, someone thought Michael Richards N-word rant was funny as hell.
But most didn't.

You think Jamie Foxx said was a brilliant joke about being TS.

I think it was much less than that.
I agree it wasn't a transphobic rant, but it was crass and insensitive.

Remember, the underlying crux of Jamie Foxx's joke was that even if a TS transitions, she's still a MAN.

Explain to me how that's funny in a public setting in front of a mixed audience??

It reminds me of a joke I heard years ago;

"What do you call a Black man with a PhD??


Still a N_gger."


LOLOLOL.
Not.

I didn't say it was a brilliant joke. I said it was just a joke.

As for the public setting, it was told at an awards show. Crude humor is a staple at those types of events.

As for the joke you told, I got one that's even better.

"What do you say to a black man wearing a three piece suit?

"Will the defendant please rise".

Thank you. I'll be here all week. Try the veal.

[trish]

When I read it (here for the first time) the joke made me laugh. I don’t believe Jamie’s intent was to hurt. I don’t believe Jamie’s focus was on Jenner’s feelings or state of mind at all. He was just doing what comedians do (which is not, btw, what TV announcer’s do––conservative or otherwise).

That’s the problem. Jenner is obviously taking great pains to stay out of the limelight. Some girls like to flaunt their transitioning bodies, but most are very uncomfortable and emotionally vulnerable. Had Jamie, just for a minute, asked himself if this joke was going to hurt someone, he may have restrained himself.

Is Jamie transphobic? I don’t know him, but I see little evidence to support the accusation. Was the joke transphobic? I’m gonna say, not; though I understand why some would ‘read’ it that way and I won’t dispute that interpretation. Was it insensitive? Probably so, but only Jenner can really say. Should Jamie have delivered it? That was Jamie’s call. I’m not going boycott him over it.