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NYCe
08-02-2006, 09:07 PM
http://www.avn.com/articles/272838.html

CHATSWORTH, Calif. - As of 1 p.m. today, FBI agents were taking a lunch break in the middle of investigating the 2257 records of noted specialty company Robert Hill Releasing.

"We're getting checked today by the FBI for the 2257," stated Lynton, owner of Robert Hill Releasing, one of the top she-male producers. "They're very pleasant; we're working with them whichever way they want. They're getting all the information they need. Obviously, they're checking for underage, I believe... They picked out movies, generally with younger titles; five or six titles, I believe; randomly picked, I believe, or maybe the titles indicate underage or whatever."

However, Lynton assured that none of his performers were in fact underage.

"Ours are in order, as far as we can tell," he said. "Everything seems to be going as smooth as possible right now. The gentlemen weren't coming in here busting doors down. They were very pleasant. They brought their copy machines and they're copying the IDs and all of the paperwork."

According to Lynton, the agents did not have a search warrant of any sort.

"They just showed their badges and indicated what they were here for," Lynton explained. "They actually mentioned, 'Have you been reading the AVN, that we're going to be doing this?' They actually did say that."

Lynton didn't have a lot of conversation with the agents, but they did indicate that this was one in a series of ongoing investigations.

"I believe they're going to be going down the road, from what I understand," he said. "I believe they're picking out companies and they're going to be checking 2257. They indicated that they know more or less the top companies, that they know their paperwork is going to be more or less correct. I believe from what they're indicating that they believe, with some of the smaller companies, is where they're going to be finding problems."

Robert Hill Releasing is the third company to indicate that it has been inspected for compliance with the federal recordkeeping and labeling law in the past 10 days, and the agents have reportedly told others that there are some 23 adult video and website companies that they intend to visit over the coming weeks.

specialk
08-02-2006, 09:16 PM
Perhaps this is just election year politicking, they might be looking for tranny porn vids Arnold starred in. :roll:

Shining Star
08-03-2006, 03:03 PM
Perhaps this is just election year politicking, they might be looking for tranny porn vids Arnold starred in. :roll:The "Adam Walsh" Act is causing all sorts of grief and furore for Internet sites/ porn, publishers etc. anyone that publishes and or distributes, and or produces anything that shows sexual acts and or certian body parts. Many Internet sites have already been raided/investigates and have porn.

A provider told me that Eros Guide sent out a memo to all current advertisers that certian photographs will no longer be accepted on their websites, and now post requirements for photographs being submitted by new advertisers. In short not even blurred or otherwise "blocked out" gential and or full frontal nudity will be accepted.

IIRC the law also requires websites/media obtain and keep on record vaild ID showing the person depicted in the photograph is of legal age. Name and information on the ID must match name and information submitted with photographs.

tsluver247
08-04-2006, 02:40 AM
Sounds like the neo-cons trying to get back their base as far as the "family values" group.

08-04-2006, 05:30 AM
I don't get mad at the cops when I pull into a sobriety checkpoint... though that too is an inconvenience.

Jamie Michelle
08-04-2006, 05:40 AM
I don't get mad at the cops when I pull into a sobriety checkpoint... though that too is an inconvenience.

You ought to get mad. It's more than merely an inconvenience, it's police-state tyranny, not to mention being unconstitutional.

LoadedRevolver66
08-04-2006, 06:12 AM
Hell, this is minor shit. Anyone ever heard of a company called Extreme Associates? The feds have raked their asses over the coals for nothing, not even underaged chicks but just the idea of 20-something girls acting 14 (Extreme Teen 23). And Forced Entry, the crown jewel of said investigation, is nothing more than porn with some crappy B-movie gore thrown in. I don't have a link to the article, but just google "robert zicari v. united states," "extreme associates legal troubles," or something along those lines and you'll see what I mean. (BTW, the man behind all this stuff, Rob Black, is formally known as Robert Zicari)

I'm just waiting for the day when young republicans start marching along Pennsylvania Ave., goose-steping and screaming "sieg heil" while Dubya screams encouragement from a balcony. Wait . . . actually, I think that's planned for tomorrow :twisted:

Jamie Michelle
08-04-2006, 08:08 AM
Hell, this is minor shit. Anyone ever heard of a company called Extreme Associates? The feds have raked their asses over the coals for nothing, not even underaged chicks but just the idea of 20-something girls acting 14 (Extreme Teen 23). And Forced Entry, the crown jewel of said investigation, is nothing more than porn with some crappy B-movie gore thrown in. I don't have a link to the article, but just google "robert zicari v. united states," "extreme associates legal troubles," or something along those lines and you'll see what I mean. (BTW, the man behind all this stuff, Rob Black, is formally known as Robert Zicari)

I'm just waiting for the day when young republicans start marching along Pennsylvania Ave., goose-steping and screaming "sieg heil" while Dubya screams encouragement from a balcony. Wait . . . actually, I think that's planned for tomorrow :twisted:

The Democratic Party are every bit as bad. They're just as pseudo-puritanical, just with a slightly different focus on issues.

The reality of the situation is that we have a one-party socialist system in the U.S., just with two ever so slightly different factional flavors to give people the idea that they have a choice. At core, these two different factions within this one-party system aren't actually different at all, and indeed aren't actually fighting against each other (at least when it comes to the top-tier of these two factions). They merely have slightly different window dressings (so to speak) to give the appearance of having some difference.

The top-tier of Communist faction A (i.e., the Republican Party) and Communist faction B (i.e., the Democratic Party) are all in bed with each other. Their public spats with each other are more staged and phoney than a WWE wrestling match.

For example, Bill Clinton calls the Bushes his surrogate family, and vacations with them regularly. Although the Clintons and the Bushes have been long-time close family friends going back even before their drug-running operation in Mena, Arkansas. Hillary Clinton has long had regular private dinners with Rupert Murdoch and she is now being politically supported by Murdoch, who is helping her raise funds.

John Kerry and Bushes Sr. and Jr. are all Bonesmen in the occult sociey of the Brotherhood of Death (a.k.a. the Order of Skull & Bones at Yale), of which occult society was instrumental in the funding of Hitler and the Nazis. Bonesman Prescott Bush (Bush, Sr.'s father) had one of his banks and a number of his companies seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act for his financing of the Nazis even during wartime.

Although with the black-box electronic voting, the ruling elite can simply punch in any numbers that they want, as they did in the 2004 U.S. Presidential election (of which the actual winner, Bonesman Kerry, was more than happy to roll over for his good buddies, the Bushes):

"Science proves that vote fraud is real!," Joseph Cannon, April 2, 2005:

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005/04/science-proves-that-vote-fraud-is-real.html

"Analysis of the 2004 Presidential Election Exit Poll Discrepancies," Josh Mitteldorf, Ph.D., Kathy Dopp, MS mathematics, Steven F. Freeman, Ph.D., Prof. Brian Joiner, Prof. Frank Stenger, Prof. Richard G. Sheehan, Paul F. Velleman, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Victoria Lovegren, Ph.D. Lecturer, Campbell B. Read, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, Jonathan Simon, Ron Baiman, Bruce O'Dell, US Count Votes' National Election Data Archive Project, March 31, 2005:

http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/Exit_Polls_2004_Edison-Mitofsky.pdf

"The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy," Steven F. Freeman, Ph.D., University of Pennsylvania, November 11, 2004:

http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/11/Unexplained_exit_poll_discrep_v00l.pdf

In "The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy," Dr. Steven F. Freeman says:

"As much as we can say in social science that something is impossible, it is impossible that the discrepancies between predicted and actual vote counts in the three critical battleground states [Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania] of the 2004 election could have been due to chance or random error."

The odds of those exit poll statistical anomalies occurring by chance are, according to Dr. Freeman, "250,000,000 to one."

See also:

"Was the 2004 Election Stolen?: Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted--enough to have put John Kerry in the White House," Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Rolling Stone, June 15, 2006 issue:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen/1

"Was the 2004 Election Stolen? Sources and Commentary," Rolling Stone, June 1, 2006:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10463875/was_the_2004_election_stolen_sources_and_commentar y

"The stolen election of 2004," Michael Parenti, Columbus Free Press, July 11, 2006:

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2006/2073

---

The leadership of both the Democratic Party and Republican Party are beholden to the Bilderberg group.

The Bilderberg group is the top-tier of the globalist ruling elite. Groups such as the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission are the Bilderberg group's more public organizational branches which help to enact the agenda of the Bilderberg group.

Reuters acknowledges that the Bilderberg group of European royalty and international central bankers groomed Bill Clinton and Tony Blair for the U.S. Presidency and British Prime Ministry, respectively:

"Secretive Bilderberg group to meet in Sweden," Peter Starck, Reuters, May 23, 2001:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/reuters_bilderberg.html

For more information on the Bilderberg group, see the below news archives:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_bilderberg.html

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archive_bilderberg.html

See also:

"Inside the secretive Bilderberg Group," Bill Hayton, BBC News, September 29, 2005:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4290944.stm

"Confessions of a Globalist: Bilderberger Admits Influence on World Decisions," James P. Tucker Jr., American Free Press, Issue #42, October 17, 2005:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/confessions_of_a_globalist.html

"Elite power brokers' secret talks," Emma Jane Kirby, BBC News, May 15, 2003:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3031717.stm

"World government in action," Joseph Farah, WorldNetDaily.com, May 16, 2003:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32606

"The masters of the universe," Pepe Escobar, Asia Times, May 22, 2003:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EE22Ak03.html

And as the below BBC Radio report reveals, the European Union and the euro European Union single-currency were both secretly planned since the first Bilderberg meeting in 1954:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archive_bilderberg.html

BBC Bilderberg Report: European Union, Single Currency Planned Since 50's

BBC uncovered incredible archived Bilderberg documents which confirmed that both the EU and the Euro were the brainchild of Bilderberg.

"Club Class," Simon Cox, BBC Radio, July 3, 2003:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/bbc_radio_4_bilderberg.mp3

08-04-2006, 08:15 AM
....not to mention being unconstitutional.

Care to back that up?

Jamie Michelle
08-04-2006, 08:22 AM
....not to mention being unconstitutional.

Care to back that up?

The Constitution of the United States of America:

Amendment IV (1791):

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V (1791):

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

08-04-2006, 08:27 AM
Hell, this is minor shit. Anyone ever heard of a company called Extreme Associates? The feds have raked their asses over the coals for nothing, not even underaged chicks but just the idea of 20-something girls acting 14 (Extreme Teen 23). And Forced Entry, the crown jewel of said investigation, is nothing more than porn with some crappy B-movie gore thrown in. I don't have a link to the article, but just google "robert zicari v. united states," "extreme associates legal troubles," or something along those lines and you'll see what I mean. (BTW, the man behind all this stuff, Rob Black, is formally known as Robert Zicari)

I'm just waiting for the day when young republicans start marching along Pennsylvania Ave., goose-steping and screaming "sieg heil" while Dubya screams encouragement from a balcony. Wait . . . actually, I think that's planned for tomorrow :twisted:

The Democratic Party are every bit as bad. They're just as pseudo-puritanical, just with a slightly different focus on issues.

The reality of the situation is that we have a one-party socialist system in the U.S., just with two ever so slightly different factional flavors to give people the idea that they have a choice. At core, these two different factions within this one-party system aren't actually different at all, and indeed aren't actually fighting against each other (at least when it comes to the top-tier of these two factions). They merely have slightly different window dressings (so to speak) to give the appearance of having some difference.

The top-tier of Communist faction A (i.e., the Republican Party) and Communist faction B (i.e., the Democratic Party) are all in bed with each other. Their public spats with each other are more staged and phoney than a WWE wrestling match.

For example, Bill Clinton calls the Bushes his surrogate family, and vacations with them regularly. Although the Clintons and the Bushes have been long-time close family friends going back even before their drug-running operation in Mena, Arkansas. Hillary Clinton has long had regular private dinners with Rupert Murdoch and she is now being politically supported by Murdoch, who is helping her raise funds.

John Kerry and Bushes Sr. and Jr. are all Bonesmen in the occult sociey of the Brotherhood of Death (a.k.a. the Order of Skull & Bones at Yale), of which occult society was instrumental in the funding of Hitler and the Nazis. Bonesman Prescott Bush (Bush, Sr.'s father) had one of his banks and a number of his companies seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act for his financing of the Nazis even during wartime.

Although with the black-box electronic voting, the ruling elite can simply punch in any numbers that they want, as they did in the 2004 U.S. Presidential election (of which the actual winner, Bonesman Kerry, was more than happy to roll over for his good buddies, the Bushes):

"Science proves that vote fraud is real!," Joseph Cannon, April 2, 2005:

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005/04/science-proves-that-vote-fraud-is-real.html

"Analysis of the 2004 Presidential Election Exit Poll Discrepancies," Josh Mitteldorf, Ph.D., Kathy Dopp, MS mathematics, Steven F. Freeman, Ph.D., Prof. Brian Joiner, Prof. Frank Stenger, Prof. Richard G. Sheehan, Paul F. Velleman, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Victoria Lovegren, Ph.D. Lecturer, Campbell B. Read, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, Jonathan Simon, Ron Baiman, Bruce O'Dell, US Count Votes' National Election Data Archive Project, March 31, 2005:

http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/Exit_Polls_2004_Edison-Mitofsky.pdf

"The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy," Steven F. Freeman, Ph.D., University of Pennsylvania, November 11, 2004:

http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/11/Unexplained_exit_poll_discrep_v00l.pdf

In "The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy," Dr. Steven F. Freeman says:

"As much as we can say in social science that something is impossible, it is impossible that the discrepancies between predicted and actual vote counts in the three critical battleground states [Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania] of the 2004 election could have been due to chance or random error."

The odds of those exit poll statistical anomalies occurring by chance are, according to Dr. Freeman, "250,000,000 to one."

See also:

"Was the 2004 Election Stolen?: Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted--enough to have put John Kerry in the White House," Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Rolling Stone, June 15, 2006 issue:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen/1

"Was the 2004 Election Stolen? Sources and Commentary," Rolling Stone, June 1, 2006:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10463875/was_the_2004_election_stolen_sources_and_commentar y

"The stolen election of 2004," Michael Parenti, Columbus Free Press, July 11, 2006:

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2006/2073

---

The leadership of both the Democratic Party and Republican Party are beholden to the Bilderberg group.

The Bilderberg group is the top-tier of the globalist ruling elite. Groups such as the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission are the Bilderberg group's more public organizational branches which help to enact the agenda of the Bilderberg group.

Reuters acknowledges that the Bilderberg group of European royalty and international central bankers groomed Bill Clinton and Tony Blair for the U.S. Presidency and British Prime Ministry, respectively:

"Secretive Bilderberg group to meet in Sweden," Peter Starck, Reuters, May 23, 2001:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/reuters_bilderberg.html

For more information on the Bilderberg group, see the below news archives:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_bilderberg.html

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archive_bilderberg.html

See also:

"Inside the secretive Bilderberg Group," Bill Hayton, BBC News, September 29, 2005:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4290944.stm

"Confessions of a Globalist: Bilderberger Admits Influence on World Decisions," James P. Tucker Jr., American Free Press, Issue #42, October 17, 2005:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/confessions_of_a_globalist.html

"Elite power brokers' secret talks," Emma Jane Kirby, BBC News, May 15, 2003:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3031717.stm

"World government in action," Joseph Farah, WorldNetDaily.com, May 16, 2003:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32606

"The masters of the universe," Pepe Escobar, Asia Times, May 22, 2003:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EE22Ak03.html

And as the below BBC Radio report reveals, the European Union and the euro European Union single-currency were both secretly planned since the first Bilderberg meeting in 1954:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archive_bilderberg.html

BBC Bilderberg Report: European Union, Single Currency Planned Since 50's

BBC uncovered incredible archived Bilderberg documents which confirmed that both the EU and the Euro were the brainchild of Bilderberg.

"Club Class," Simon Cox, BBC Radio, July 3, 2003:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/bbc_radio_4_bilderberg.mp3


Tell you what.... (as you sit under the umbrella of American luxury)

You make the plans to leave America (ie find residence, job etc) and I'll GLADLY pay your airfare out of this "aweful" country.

Please! I cant stand the whine.

08-04-2006, 08:30 AM
....not to mention being unconstitutional.

Care to back that up?

The Constitution of the United States of America:

Amendment IV (1791):

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V (1791):

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


Illegal search and seizure? LOL!!!

Not if there is no reasonable expectation of privacy, which in this country, the court has ruled does not exist in an automobile.

So if you look drunk in your automobile, the police have the right to search.

The checkpoints also do not constitute "illegal search", since they aren't invading your privacy.

08-04-2006, 08:33 AM
There's probably hundreds of knuckleheads who have gone to court on "Illegal search and seizure" when arrested for drunk driving at a checkpoint.

LOL


It's not even case law anymore, lol. It sits right next to the files of guys who tried to sue because they're too drunk to remember if the cops read em their miranda rights!

Jamie Michelle
08-04-2006, 08:35 AM
Hell, this is minor shit. Anyone ever heard of a company called Extreme Associates? The feds have raked their asses over the coals for nothing, not even underaged chicks but just the idea of 20-something girls acting 14 (Extreme Teen 23). And Forced Entry, the crown jewel of said investigation, is nothing more than porn with some crappy B-movie gore thrown in. I don't have a link to the article, but just google "robert zicari v. united states," "extreme associates legal troubles," or something along those lines and you'll see what I mean. (BTW, the man behind all this stuff, Rob Black, is formally known as Robert Zicari)

I'm just waiting for the day when young republicans start marching along Pennsylvania Ave., goose-steping and screaming "sieg heil" while Dubya screams encouragement from a balcony. Wait . . . actually, I think that's planned for tomorrow :twisted:

The Democratic Party are every bit as bad. They're just as pseudo-puritanical, just with a slightly different focus on issues.

The reality of the situation is that we have a one-party socialist system in the U.S., just with two ever so slightly different factional flavors to give people the idea that they have a choice. At core, these two different factions within this one-party system aren't actually different at all, and indeed aren't actually fighting against each other (at least when it comes to the top-tier of these two factions). They merely have slightly different window dressings (so to speak) to give the appearance of having some difference.

The top-tier of Communist faction A (i.e., the Republican Party) and Communist faction B (i.e., the Democratic Party) are all in bed with each other. Their public spats with each other are more staged and phoney than a WWE wrestling match.

For example, Bill Clinton calls the Bushes his surrogate family, and vacations with them regularly. Although the Clintons and the Bushes have been long-time close family friends going back even before their drug-running operation in Mena, Arkansas. Hillary Clinton has long had regular private dinners with Rupert Murdoch and she is now being politically supported by Murdoch, who is helping her raise funds.

John Kerry and Bushes Sr. and Jr. are all Bonesmen in the occult sociey of the Brotherhood of Death (a.k.a. the Order of Skull & Bones at Yale), of which occult society was instrumental in the funding of Hitler and the Nazis. Bonesman Prescott Bush (Bush, Sr.'s father) had one of his banks and a number of his companies seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act for his financing of the Nazis even during wartime.

Although with the black-box electronic voting, the ruling elite can simply punch in any numbers that they want, as they did in the 2004 U.S. Presidential election (of which the actual winner, Bonesman Kerry, was more than happy to roll over for his good buddies, the Bushes):

"Science proves that vote fraud is real!," Joseph Cannon, April 2, 2005:

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005/04/science-proves-that-vote-fraud-is-real.html

"Analysis of the 2004 Presidential Election Exit Poll Discrepancies," Josh Mitteldorf, Ph.D., Kathy Dopp, MS mathematics, Steven F. Freeman, Ph.D., Prof. Brian Joiner, Prof. Frank Stenger, Prof. Richard G. Sheehan, Paul F. Velleman, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Victoria Lovegren, Ph.D. Lecturer, Campbell B. Read, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, Jonathan Simon, Ron Baiman, Bruce O'Dell, US Count Votes' National Election Data Archive Project, March 31, 2005:

http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/Exit_Polls_2004_Edison-Mitofsky.pdf

"The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy," Steven F. Freeman, Ph.D., University of Pennsylvania, November 11, 2004:

http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/11/Unexplained_exit_poll_discrep_v00l.pdf

In "The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy," Dr. Steven F. Freeman says:

"As much as we can say in social science that something is impossible, it is impossible that the discrepancies between predicted and actual vote counts in the three critical battleground states [Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania] of the 2004 election could have been due to chance or random error."

The odds of those exit poll statistical anomalies occurring by chance are, according to Dr. Freeman, "250,000,000 to one."

See also:

"Was the 2004 Election Stolen?: Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted--enough to have put John Kerry in the White House," Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Rolling Stone, June 15, 2006 issue:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen/1

"Was the 2004 Election Stolen? Sources and Commentary," Rolling Stone, June 1, 2006:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10463875/was_the_2004_election_stolen_sources_and_commentar y

"The stolen election of 2004," Michael Parenti, Columbus Free Press, July 11, 2006:

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2006/2073

---

The leadership of both the Democratic Party and Republican Party are beholden to the Bilderberg group.

The Bilderberg group is the top-tier of the globalist ruling elite. Groups such as the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission are the Bilderberg group's more public organizational branches which help to enact the agenda of the Bilderberg group.

Reuters acknowledges that the Bilderberg group of European royalty and international central bankers groomed Bill Clinton and Tony Blair for the U.S. Presidency and British Prime Ministry, respectively:

"Secretive Bilderberg group to meet in Sweden," Peter Starck, Reuters, May 23, 2001:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/reuters_bilderberg.html

For more information on the Bilderberg group, see the below news archives:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_bilderberg.html

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archive_bilderberg.html

See also:

"Inside the secretive Bilderberg Group," Bill Hayton, BBC News, September 29, 2005:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4290944.stm

"Confessions of a Globalist: Bilderberger Admits Influence on World Decisions," James P. Tucker Jr., American Free Press, Issue #42, October 17, 2005:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/confessions_of_a_globalist.html

"Elite power brokers' secret talks," Emma Jane Kirby, BBC News, May 15, 2003:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3031717.stm

"World government in action," Joseph Farah, WorldNetDaily.com, May 16, 2003:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32606

"The masters of the universe," Pepe Escobar, Asia Times, May 22, 2003:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EE22Ak03.html

And as the below BBC Radio report reveals, the European Union and the euro European Union single-currency were both secretly planned since the first Bilderberg meeting in 1954:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archive_bilderberg.html

BBC Bilderberg Report: European Union, Single Currency Planned Since 50's

BBC uncovered incredible archived Bilderberg documents which confirmed that both the EU and the Euro were the brainchild of Bilderberg.

"Club Class," Simon Cox, BBC Radio, July 3, 2003:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/bbc_radio_4_bilderberg.mp3


Tell you what.... (as you sit under the umbrella of American luxury)

You make the plans to leave America (ie find residence, job etc) and I'll GLADLY pay your airfare out of this "aweful" country.

Please! I cant stand the whine.

It's whining to be upset that this country is ruled over by sociopathic mass-murderers? Interesting how that illogic of yours works.

That's akin to saying that since so many other serial killers are worse than Jeffrey Dahmer, let's be happy that we're in Jeffrey Dahmer's hands. Except that our actual situation is far worse, as governments--including the U.S. government--murder far, far more people than any conventional serial killer could ever hope to. Governments--including the U.S. government--make serial killers such as Jeffrey Dahmer look like sweet and innocent choirboys by comparison.

A true patriot is someone who loves the innocent people of his country and detests his government, as all governments are unrepentant liars and murderers. After all, the original Patriots in this country were not loyal to their government. They violently overthrew their government.

08-04-2006, 08:37 AM
It's whining to be upset that this country is ruled over by sociopathic mass-murderers? Interesting how that illogic of yours works.

No, but I've caught you whining about other things too. So it's a fair label.


A true patriot is someone who loves the innocent people of his country and detests his government, as all governments are unrepentant liars and murderers. After all, the original Patriots in this country were not loyal to their government. They violently overthrew their government.



Then violently over throw the government already.

Let's get on with it!

Anythings better than the constant bitching.

08-04-2006, 08:40 AM
In the words of the great RONALD REAGAN when confronted by Cal Berkley idiots....


If there has to be a bloodbath, then let's get it over with.

Jamie Michelle
08-04-2006, 08:43 AM
There's probably hundreds of knuckleheads who have gone to court on "Illegal search and seizure" when arrested for drunk driving at a checkpoint.

LOL


It's not even case law anymore, lol. It sits right next to the files of guys who tried to sue because they're too drunk to remember if the cops read em their miranda rights!

Courts can rule that 2+2 = 5, but it doesn't make it true. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that black people aren't actual human beings (see Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. [19 How.] 393 [1857]).

08-04-2006, 09:01 AM
Courts can rule that 2+2 = 5, but it doesn't make it true. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that black people aren't actual human beings (see Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. [19 How.] 393 [1857]).
Well follow the law or you lose.

You can roam the streets high on drugs for all I care, but guess what? You're getting arrested because the majority of people don't want to see that scum on the streets.

So we go to work, pay our taxes and when it's time to vote, we vote in people who will push our agenda.

Don't like our agenda? Too bad. Do something about it.

It's ridiculous, but also funny!

Liberals and democrats ran their election campaigns for the last 5 years on the platform of "Republicans are bad".... all the while you're losing seat after seat, term after term.

And not because Americans are stupid, because they're not.

It's because America really is tired of your constant criticism of American foreign and domestic policy.[/b]

Jamie Michelle
08-04-2006, 09:01 AM
It's whining to be upset that this country is ruled over by sociopathic mass-murderers? Interesting how that illogic of yours works.

No, but I've caught you whining about other things too. So it's a fair label.


A true patriot is someone who loves the innocent people of his country and detests his government, as all governments are unrepentant liars and murderers. After all, the original Patriots in this country were not loyal to their government. They violently overthrew their government.

Then violently over throw the government already.

Let's get on with it!

Anythings better than the constant bitching.

As a genuine Christian (as opposed to an occultic, devil-worshipping, phoney Christian, such as the Bush patriarchs; or as opposed to the government-worshipping 501(c)(3) churches) I do not believe in using such violence.

Our task is to educate our countrymen, neighbors, friends, and family as to what the truth is, i.e., on the nature of liberty and government usurpations of it. Genuine change isn't going to come about by voting, or "working within the system," as it is a rigged system designed from the start to keep the ruling elite in power.

Genuine change will come about when enough people know the truth and simply fail to support the system anymore. Then voting will be irrelevant because there will be nothing to vote for, or to vote against.

What if the government held a war and no one showed up? That's the stage we need to reach, where the ruling elite simply lose their chain of command and are abandoned because the masses fail to follow them. The stage where their own soldiers and police no longer follow their orders.

The way to reach that stage is to simply speak the truth to people, as I have been doing. When others learn the truth, they will be in a position to speak the truth to others. With more people speaking the truth, even more will join in. And so on, until just about everyone and their grandmother is speaking truth to power.

For more on this process, see Étienne de La Boétie, Discours sur la servitude volontaire; ou Contr'un, likely written in 1552 or 1553, first published in full in 1576. An English translation by Harry Kurz with an introduction by Murray N. Rothbard, The Politics of Obedience: The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude (New York: Free Life Editions, 1975), is available at http://www.mises.org/rothbard/boetie.pdf .

Jamie Michelle
08-04-2006, 09:03 AM
Courts can rule that 2+2 = 5, but it doesn't make it true. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that black people aren't actual human beings (see Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. [19 How.] 393 [1857]).

Well follow the law or you lose.


I see, so if you're black, or Jewish, and you live in a country where being black or Jewish is against the law, then you deserve what you get.

So also, tell your bit of illogic to the law-breakers who rule over us.



You can roam the streets high on drugs for all I care, but guess what? You're getting arrested because the majority of people don't want to see that scum on the streets.


Tell that to long-time family friends, the Clintons and the Bushes, and their drug-running operation in Mena, Arkansas. And tell that to the cocaine-head, U.S. President George Bush, Jr.



So we go to work, pay our taxes and when it's time to vote, we vote in people who will push our agenda.


Taxation is slavery and theft. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch, and the purest form of democracy in action is the lynch mob.



Don't like our agenda? Too bad. Do something about it.


I am doing something about it by speaking the truth and educating others as to the truth.



It's ridiculous, but also funny!

Liberals and democrats ran their election campaigns for the last 5 years on the platform of "Republicans are bad".... all the while you're losing seat after seat, term after term.

And not because Americans are stupid, because they're not.

It's because America really is tired of your constant criticism of American foreign and domestic policy.[/b]

Since you apparently didn't read it the first time, here it is again for you. This time read it before replying to me in your ignorant manner.

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The Democratic Party are every bit as bad. They're just as pseudo-puritanical, just with a slightly different focus on issues.

The reality of the situation is that we have a one-party socialist system in the U.S., just with two ever so slightly different factional flavors to give people the idea that they have a choice. At core, these two different factions within this one-party system aren't actually different at all, and indeed aren't actually fighting against each other (at least when it comes to the top-tier of these two factions). They merely have slightly different window dressings (so to speak) to give the appearance of having some difference.

The top-tier of Communist faction A (i.e., the Republican Party) and Communist faction B (i.e., the Democratic Party) are all in bed with each other. Their public spats with each other are more staged and phoney than a WWE wrestling match.

For example, Bill Clinton calls the Bushes his surrogate family, and vacations with them regularly. Although the Clintons and the Bushes have been long-time close family friends going back even before their drug-running operation in Mena, Arkansas. Hillary Clinton has long had regular private dinners with Rupert Murdoch and she is now being politically supported by Murdoch, who is helping her raise funds.

John Kerry and Bushes Sr. and Jr. are all Bonesmen in the occult sociey of the Brotherhood of Death (a.k.a. the Order of Skull & Bones at Yale), of which occult society was instrumental in the funding of Hitler and the Nazis. Bonesman Prescott Bush (Bush, Sr.'s father) had one of his banks and a number of his companies seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act for his financing of the Nazis even during wartime.

Although with the black-box electronic voting, the ruling elite can simply punch in any numbers that they want, as they did in the 2004 U.S. Presidential election (of which the actual winner, Bonesman Kerry, was more than happy to roll over for his good buddies, the Bushes):

"Science proves that vote fraud is real!," Joseph Cannon, April 2, 2005:

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005/04/science-proves-that-vote-fraud-is-real.html

"Analysis of the 2004 Presidential Election Exit Poll Discrepancies," Josh Mitteldorf, Ph.D., Kathy Dopp, MS mathematics, Steven F. Freeman, Ph.D., Prof. Brian Joiner, Prof. Frank Stenger, Prof. Richard G. Sheehan, Paul F. Velleman, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Victoria Lovegren, Ph.D. Lecturer, Campbell B. Read, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, Jonathan Simon, Ron Baiman, Bruce O'Dell, US Count Votes' National Election Data Archive Project, March 31, 2005:

http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/Exit_Polls_2004_Edison-Mitofsky.pdf

"The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy," Steven F. Freeman, Ph.D., University of Pennsylvania, November 11, 2004:

http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/11/Unexplained_exit_poll_discrep_v00l.pdf

In "The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy," Dr. Steven F. Freeman says:

"As much as we can say in social science that something is impossible, it is impossible that the discrepancies between predicted and actual vote counts in the three critical battleground states [Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania] of the 2004 election could have been due to chance or random error."

The odds of those exit poll statistical anomalies occurring by chance are, according to Dr. Freeman, "250,000,000 to one."

See also:

"Was the 2004 Election Stolen?: Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted--enough to have put John Kerry in the White House," Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Rolling Stone, June 15, 2006 issue:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen/1

"Was the 2004 Election Stolen? Sources and Commentary," Rolling Stone, June 1, 2006:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10463875/was_the_2004_election_stolen_sources_and_commentar y

"The stolen election of 2004," Michael Parenti, Columbus Free Press, July 11, 2006:

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2006/2073

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The leadership of both the Democratic Party and Republican Party are beholden to the Bilderberg group.

The Bilderberg group is the top-tier of the globalist ruling elite. Groups such as the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission are the Bilderberg group's more public organizational branches which help to enact the agenda of the Bilderberg group.

Reuters acknowledges that the Bilderberg group of European royalty and international central bankers groomed Bill Clinton and Tony Blair for the U.S. Presidency and British Prime Ministry, respectively:

"Secretive Bilderberg group to meet in Sweden," Peter Starck, Reuters, May 23, 2001:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/reuters_bilderberg.html

For more information on the Bilderberg group, see the below news archives:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_bilderberg.html

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archive_bilderberg.html

See also:

"Inside the secretive Bilderberg Group," Bill Hayton, BBC News, September 29, 2005:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4290944.stm

"Confessions of a Globalist: Bilderberger Admits Influence on World Decisions," James P. Tucker Jr., American Free Press, Issue #42, October 17, 2005:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/confessions_of_a_globalist.html

"Elite power brokers' secret talks," Emma Jane Kirby, BBC News, May 15, 2003:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3031717.stm

"World government in action," Joseph Farah, WorldNetDaily.com, May 16, 2003:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32606

"The masters of the universe," Pepe Escobar, Asia Times, May 22, 2003:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EE22Ak03.html

And as the below BBC Radio report reveals, the European Union and the euro European Union single-currency were both secretly planned since the first Bilderberg meeting in 1954:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archive_bilderberg.html

BBC Bilderberg Report: European Union, Single Currency Planned Since 50's

BBC uncovered incredible archived Bilderberg documents which confirmed that both the EU and the Euro were the brainchild of Bilderberg.

"Club Class," Simon Cox, BBC Radio, July 3, 2003:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/bbc_radio_4_bilderberg.mp3

08-04-2006, 09:13 AM
A true patriot is someone who loves the innocent people of his country and detests his government, as all governments are unrepentant liars and murderers. After all, the original Patriots in this country were not loyal to their government. They violently overthrew their government.
You just finished saying that "True patriots" violently overthrew their government.

Do you not stand behind anything you say? Is it the "true patriot" thing to do or not?

This isn't France. You won't find no bloodless coup here. America was founded by men. Men of honor and respect.... WITH GUNS and it continues to be run by men of that cloth and thats what pisses libs off! Being a liberal means resenting authority and that means, resenting men.

And kill that noise about "What if the government held a war and no one showed up?"

America represents the best that the planet earth and humanity has to offer. Our cause is just and righteous and on the value of that, MEN will show to defend such cause. Of course the children of all ages will stay home, but American men will always fight in the face of tyranny as they have in the American Civil War, American Revolution, Vietnam, WW2, Iraq, 1812 and if need be, WW3.

And we will win.

Jamie Michelle
08-04-2006, 09:49 AM
A true patriot is someone who loves the innocent people of his country and detests his government, as all governments are unrepentant liars and murderers. After all, the original Patriots in this country were not loyal to their government. They violently overthrew their government.

You just finished saying that "True patriots" violently overthrew their government.


Please take a reading comprehension course. Although I highly recommend that you get a private tutor, as government schooling has done your mind enough damage.

I defined a genuine (or true, etc.) patriot as "someone who loves the innocent people of his country and detests his government." Keep in mind that "patriot" derives from the word "compatriot."

I pointed out that the original Patriots in this country were not loyal to their government and that they violently overthrew their government, but I did not offer the latter (i.e., violent overthow of one's government) as a necessary component of patriotism; I simply offered it as a demonstration of how severely the original Patriots in this country were against their own government.



Do you not stand behind anything you say? Is it the "true patriot" thing to do or not?

This isn't France. You won't find no bloodless coup here. America was founded by men. Men of honor and respect.... WITH GUNS and it continues to be run by men of that cloth and thats what pisses libs off! Being a liberal means resenting authority and that means, resenting men.


The terms "left" and "right" in the political sense go back to 1789 in France. When the French Estates-General (États-Généraux) met on May 6, 1789, the Third Estate commoners, who wanted less taxes and government control (i.e., "laissez-faire"), were seated on the left side of King Louis XVI, and the Second Estate nobles and First Estate clergy, who were the conservatives and wanted to maintain the government's power, sat on his right. (Prior to the May 1789 convention of the French Estates-General [the first meeting of which was on May 5, 1789], the last time the Estates-General had met was under King Louis XIII from October 27, 1614 to February 23, 1615.)

Also, "liberal" originally meant what we would call today (at least in the U.S. and Canada) "libertarian," i.e., laissez-faire free market, less taxes, less regulation, and gun ownership by the common people. Thus, in the original sense of the words, someone who wanted no taxes, all drugs to be legal, a free market, and armament of the common people would be a left-wing liberal.

The term "liberal" as it is commonly used today is purely and simply a misnomer meaning the opposite of what it originally meant, as those commonly called "liberals" today are about giving government more power, not in stripping government of power. Those commonly called "liberals" today are in fact *right-wing conservatives* in the original sense of that political term. So also, socialism and communism are exceedingly *right-wing* and *conservative* political philosophies, as they put all power into the hands of government, rather than strip government of power.



And kill that noise about "What if the government held a war and no one showed up?"

America represents the best that the planet earth and humanity has to offer. Our cause is just and righteous and on the value of that, MEN will show to defend such cause. Of course the children of all ages will stay home, but American men will always fight in the face of tyranny as they have in the American Civil War, American Revolution, Vietnam, WW2, Iraq, 1812 and if need be, WW3.

And we will win.

Your glorious American leaders are doing their best to dismantle the U.S. The plan all along has been to make the U.S. look bad. You can't make the New World Order's one-world government omelet without cracking eggs--and this includes breaking the U.S. most of all.

Below are some of my comments from a few years ago concerning the Abu Ghraib torture scandal, which explains what I'm here talking about:

Justin Raimondo of Antiwar.com also concludes that the creation and release of these torture photos was quite planned and intentional by the U.S. government, as part of a Psychological Operations (PsyOps) tactic. But where Raimondo gets thrown for a loop is buying into the made-for-public-consumption rationale published by David Leo Gutmann, emeritus professor of Psychology and Behavioral Sciences at Northwestern University Medical School, in Chicago, purporting to describe "Arab psychology." (See "Shame, Honor and Terror in the Middle East" by David Leo Gutmann, October 24, 2003 http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10489 ; and see the U.S. military study which would have us believe that the U.S. government takes Prof. Gutmann's behavioral analysis on Arabs seriously: "The Iraqi Insurgency Movement," November 14, 2003 http://library.nps.navy.mil/home/Iraqi%20Insurgent%20Movement.pdf .)

But like I said, this is simply a made-for-public-consumption rationale intended for those who have caught-on to how well-planned and apparently intentional the release of these torture photos have been, of which rationale its own ostensible promoters don't even take seriously. The gist of this cockamamie rationale is that by publically shaming and emasculating the Arab people in the most humiliating and degrading of ways you will thereby make them lose their will to fight and make them docile and submissive to the will of the U.S government. Yeah, right. The U.S. government has an army of 180 I.Q. egg-head behavioral psychologists--they know quite well that "there is no better recruitment poster for al-Qaida and their affiliates" (in the words of Claude Salhani, United Press Internationl editor) than such public degradation of Arabs as the Abu Ghraib torture photos.

For Justin Raimondo's article on this, see:

"The S&M War: Are the Abu Ghraib photos 'wanton' acts of deranged individuals--or the very latest in 'black propaganda'?," Justin Raimondo, May 7, 2004:

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=2490

The orders for this prison torture came from on-high: according to U.S. Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba's report and other U.S. military sources, Military Intelligence and the CIA ordered the torture at the Abu Ghaib prison. Such intelligence agencies could have just as easily ordered no cameras to be allowed in the prison, or that any cameras allowed were to be handled by authorized personel only with the pictures being classified; obviously some people high-up want this out accross the datasphere. (For more on this, see http://www.infowars.com/print/iraq/newer_photos.htm .)

But it just so happens that this intentional swatting at the hornet's nest on the part of the U.S. government is quite neatly explained in a little-covered and quickly forgotten news item back in October 2002, concerning the U.S. government's Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group (P2OG). Quite literally, the purpose of the P2OG is to provoke would-be terrorist groups by means of PsyOps/PsyWar/BlackOps tactics into committing acts of terror in order to supposedly "smoke them out," so to speak. For more on that, see:

"Into the Dark--The Pentagon Plan to Provoke Terrorist Attacks" by Chris Floyd, November 1, 2002:

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd1101.html

"The Secret War--Frustrated by intelligence failures, the Defense Department is dramatically expanding its 'black world' of covert operations" by William M. Arkin, October 27, 2002, Special to the Times:

http://www.latimes.com/la-op-arkin27oct27.story

"Rumsfeld's Plan to Provoke Terrorists":

http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2004/4.html

"Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group (P2OG)--Formal Acknowledgement of Problem-Reaction-Solution Strategy," November 4, 2002:

http://www.cryptogon.com/2002_11_03_blogarchive.html

Besides using these Abu Ghraib torture photos to intentionally provoke useful-idiot Arabs to join and die for the CIA-controlled al-Qaida (and hence provide the necessary pretext to take over other Arab countries), it also serves other vital objectives in helping to establish the elite globalists' self-termed New World Order.

The plan all along has been to turn Iraq over to the U.N. It's called Good Cop/Bad Cop. The U.S. is simply the Bad Cop to the U.N.'s Good Cop--the U.S. is playing the role of the international bad-boy so that the rest of the world will run to the U.N. See:

"Nations Seek World Order Centered on U.N., Not U.S." by Richard Bernstein:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/19/international/europe/19EURO.html

The biggest obstacle for the globalists' establishment of a one-world government is the United States--specifically the common people that make up the mass of the populace in this country. Even though Americans have been greatly and intentionally dumbed-down through the government's Prussian-model, Fabian Socialist miseducation system, Americans still have a nationalistic sense of being the John Wayne "good guys," having a sense of nationalistic independence, and faint vestiges of libertarian ideology; not to mention that the U.S. is the most-armed populace (at least in total numbers). The "revelation" of these torture photos is designed to shock and weaken Americans' sense of nationhood; or for those Americans who insist on "standing by their government," to cause Cognitive Dissonance whereby they are induced to make excuses for "their" government's use of torture (and thereby accept such torture).

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Crushing Children's Testicles

John Choon Yoo ( http://www.law.berkeley.edu/faculty/yooj/ , http://www.law.berkeley.edu/faculty/profiles/facultyProfile.php?facID=235 ) is a professor of law at the University of California at Berkeley School of Law (Boalt Hall), one of the authors of the Patriot Act, and is one of the main White House legal advisers on the use of torture to President George Bush, Jr. Prof. John Yoo emigrated from South Korea with his parents when he was an infant, and is now married to Elsa Arnett, the daughter of reporter Peter Arnett.

Douglass Cassel ( http://www.nd.edu/~ndlaw/faculty/facultypages/cassel.html ) is the Lilly Endowment Professor of Law and Director of the Center for Civil and Human Rights at Notre Dame Law School.

The below excerpt is from a debate between Prof. John Yoo and Prof. Doug Cassel on December 1, 2005 in Chicago:

""
Prof. Doug Cassel: If the President deems that he's got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person's child, there is no law that can stop him?

Prof. John Yoo: No treaty.

Cassel: And also no law by Congress. That's what you wrote in the August 2002 memo.

Yoo: I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.
""

You can listen to the above exchange on the below audio clip:

http://rwor.org/downloads/file_info/download1.php?file=yoo_on_torture.mp3 (317,712 bytes)

The below audio clip is a longer recording which includes the above exchange:

http://rwor.org/audio/yoo%20excerpt.mp3

See also:

"John Yoo Argues Pres. George Bush Has Legal Power to Torture Children," Philip Watts, Revolution Newspaper (revcom.us):

http://rwor.org/johnyoo/index.html

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Since H.R. 3162, i.e., the "USA Patriot Act," was passed into law on October 26, 2001 without the Congress or Senate even being allowed to read it before voting on it, the police can now secretly search your house and take whatever they want from it without having to tell you about it until they issue you a warrant up to six months later (see SEC. 213). Also, the legal definition of "domestic terrorism" was changed to include any "acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State" (see SEC. 802)--which could quite literally be jaywalking.

Indeed, smoking a joint could quite literally be domestic terrorism as defined under this law, since the U.S. government considers such drug use to be dangerous to human life, and since it is illegal after all. But such an act is supposed to only qualify if it "appear[s] to be intended to influence the policy of a Government by intimidation or coercion." So smoking a joint would only be an act of "domestic terrorism" if the U.S. Government thinks a person is doing it as a protest against their drug laws--the clause for "intimidation" already applies, otherwise the U.S. government would have no law against it.

And since P.L. 107-40 (September 18, 2001) was enacted and Bush, Jr. signed the November 13, 2001 Presidential Military Order, *habeas corpus* has been done away with as U.S. citizens can now be held indefinitely and in secret on the mere suspicion that they are in some way involved in "terrorism" (which can now be virtually anything--see the above redefined definition of "domestic terrorism") without even being charged; they can be tried by a secret military tribunal where they will not have the right to cross-examine their accusers; and they can be executed in secret. Indeed, U.S. citizens have already been held for years without any charges even having been filed against them (such as José Padilla and Yaser Esam Hamdi), and the U.S. government says that it can keep U.S. citizens that way indefinitely.

So it's not surprising to find that the U.S. government has been torturing innocent people, including U.S. citizens. This includes U.S. soldiers torturing people in U.S. custody to death.

"Pakistan: U.S. Citizens Tortured, Held Illegally--FBI Participated in Interrogations Despite Apparent Knowledge of Torture, Abduction," Human Rights Watch, May 24, 2005:

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/05/24/pakist11005.htm

"Exclusive: Secret Memo--Send to Be Tortured," Michael Isikoff, Newsweek, August 8, 2005 issue:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8769416/site/newsweek/

"Outsourcing Torture: The secret history of America's 'extraordinary rendition' program," Jane Mayer, The New Yorker, Issue of February 14, 2005, posted February 7, 2005:

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?050214fa_fact6

"CIA kidnapped terror suspects in the EU: lawmaker," Reuters, April 26, 2006:

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:awFkYdKtEeAJ:go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml%3Ftype%3DtopNews%26storyID%3D119 68389

http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=11968389

Khalid El-Masri, an innocent German citizen, was abducted from Macedonia and held by the U.S. military without charges from January 23 to May 28, 2004, during which time he was sodomized and tortured by the U.S. military. He was taken by the U.S. military to Baghdad, Iraq and then to the "Salt Pit" clandestine CIA torture center located north of Kabul in Afghanistan.

"Khalid El-Masri," Wikipedia, June 25, 2006:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khalid_El-Masri&oldid=60497313

"Lawsuit Against CIA Is Dismissed: Mistaken Identity Led to Detention," Jerry Markon, Washington Post, May 19, 2006; Page A13:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/18/AR2006051802107.html

An innocent Algerian man, Laid Saidi, was held without charges in one of the same clandestine CIA torture centers in Afghanistan that Khalid El-Masri was held, from May 2003 to August 2004, wherein the two saw each other. Mr. Saidi was abducted from Tanzania and held by the U.S. military, during which time he was sodomized and tortured by the U.S. military.

"Algerian Tells of Dark Term in U.S. Hands," Craig S. Smith and Souad Mekhennet, New York Times, July 7, 2006:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/world/africa/07algeria.html

"CIA sent me to be tortured in Afghan prison, says Algerian," Jerome Taylor, Independent (U.K.), July 8, 2006:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article1166575.ece

In the Bagram, Afghanistan U.S. military base, U.S. government officials publicly admit that they're murdering Afghan inmates there by torturing them to death:

"Afghan prisoners beaten to death at US military interrogation base: 'Blunt force injuries' cited in murder ruling," Duncan Campbell, The Guardian (U.K.), March 7, 2003:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,909164,00.html

"Prisoners 'killed' at US base," BBC News, March 6, 2003:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2825575.stm

"Army Details Scale of Abuse of Prisoners in an Afghan Jail," Douglas Jehl, New York Times, March 12, 2005:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/12/politics/12detain.html

Included in the U.S. government's use of torture against innocent people is the rape of women and male children:

"US military confirms existence of horrific pictures and video," Andrew Buncombe, Independent (U.K.), May 9, 2004:

http://www.rense.com/general52/erh.htm

Among other tortures, U.S. Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba's report details homosexual anal rape committed by U.S. soldiers. Also detailed in U.S. Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba's report and by other U.S. military sources, Military Intelligence and the CIA ordered the torture at the Abu Ghaib prison.

"U.S. Army report on Iraqi prisoner abuse: Executive summary of Article 15-6 investigation of the 800th Military Police Brigade by Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba," NBC News, May 4, 2004:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4894001/

"Green light for Iraqi prison abuse came right from the top: Classified documents show the former US military chief in Iraq personally sanctioned measures banned by the Geneva Conventions," Andrew Buncombe, Independent (U.K.), April 3, 2005:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0403-03.htm

"Pentagon Report Set Framework For Use of Torture: Security or Legal Factors Could Trump Restrictions, Memo to Rumsfeld Argued," Jess Bravin, Wall Street Journal, June 7, 2004:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0607-01.htm

As Republican Senator Lindsey Graham said to reporters on May 7, 2004 concerning the pictures and videos of U.S. military torture of Iraqis that the U.S. government still refuses to release: "The American public needs to understand we're talking about rape and murder here. We're not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience. We're talking about rape and murder and some very serious charges." See:

"Rumsfeld: Worst Still To Come--Pentagon Boss Apologizes To Iraqis; Says More Videos, Photos Exist," CBS News and Associated Press (AP), May 7, 2004:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/08/iraq/main616338.shtml

"Rueful Rumsfeld: 'Cruel' truth hurts: Rape and murder feared in Iraq abuse," Noelle Straub, Boston Herald, May 8, 2004:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/msg/53904eefc5efc3fa

And as Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on May 7, 2004 before Congress concerning the pictures and videos of U.S. military torture of Iraqis that the U.S. government still refuses to release: "Beyond abuse of prisoners, there are other photos that depict incidents of physical violence towards prisoners, acts that can only be described as blatantly sadistic, cruel and inhuman ... There are a lot more photographs and videos that exist ... If these are released to the public, obviously it's going to make matters worse. That's just a fact. I mean, I looked at them last night and they're hard to believe." See:

"In quotes: Rumsfeld faces Congress," BBC News, May 7, 2004:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3694995.stm

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The U.S. government has been training its troops and foreign NATO and U.N. military for a long time (i.e., well before the U.S. government-staged 9/11 attacks) in putting U.S. citizens in concentration camps and for total gun confiscation.

Watch Alex Jones's first two Police State video documentaries (both published well before the U.S. government-staged 9/11 attacks) where you can see U.S. troops training with U.N. troops in disarming American citizens and putting them into concentration camps, and anouncing over their loudspeakers: "Be calm, there is food, there is water in the camp ... violation of camp rules will not be tolerated ..."

They had American role-players screaming back at the U.S. and foreign U.N. troops, "I'm an American! I'm an American! You can't do this to me! I have rights!"

On Alex Jones's first two Police State video documentaries you can see many more of these training exercizes conducted in other cities and towns. Below you can watch Alex Jones's first two Police State videos in full and for free:

Police State 2000 (published 1999):

http://www.archive.org/details/PS2000

Police State II: The Takeover (published 2000):

http://www.archive.org/details/PoliceStateII

There have literally been hundreds of these type of training exercizes going on in the U.S. since the early 1990s. For example, see:

Operation Urban Warrior, Oakland, California 1999:

http://www.infowars.com/ouwmar9901.html

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http://www.infowars.com/Images/newouw/foreign_troops.jpg
Australian, British and other foreign troops training with U.S. troops for total gun confiscation of U.S. citizens and in rounding up U.S. citizens into concentration camps at Operation Urban Warrior, Oakland, California 1999
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For more on this subject, see below:

"U.S. Can Confine Citizens Without Charges, Court Rules," Jerry Markon, Washington Post, September 10, 2005; Page A01:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/09/AR2005090900772.html

"Reagan Aides and the 'Secret' Government," Alfonso Chardy, Miami Herald, July 5, 1987:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/secret_white_house_plans.htm

"Martial Law Concerns," Congressman Jim McDermott, House of Representatives, March 11, 2003:

http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/sp030311.shtml

Below are some archives for mainstream major media news articles dealing with these gulag matters:

Primary Prison Planet Mainstream-Media News Archive on FEMA Concentration Camps:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives_concentration_camps.html

FEMA Camps/Martial Law Archive:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives_fema.html

Habeas Corpus Archive:

The below archived news articles deal with how the U.S. government can indefinitely hold U.S. citizens who have not been charged with any crime (as the U.S. government has already been doing), and how U.S. citizens in general can be tried by a secret military tribunal where they will not have the right to cross-examine their accusers, and they can be executed in secret:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives_habeas.html

Model States Emergency Health Powers Act (which has been passed on the Federal level) Archive:

The below news articles talk about how the U.S. government can quarantine whole cities and round U.S. citizens up to be put in concentration camps in the event of, e.g., a bio-weapons release:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives_modelstates.html

Below are some additional documentation resources to learn more about the FEMA concentration/extermination camps in the U.S.:

http://infowars.com/goodphotos.html

"Concentration Camps in Okanagon County?," Associated Press (via KXLY News), February 25, 2003:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030408233829/http://www.kxly.com/common/getStory.asp?id=26857

http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_alert_022703_camps.html

Interview of Okanogan County Commissioner Dave Schulz:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/schultz_02_27_03.mp3

And see also:

"Foundations are in place for martial law in the US," Ritt Goldstein, Sydney Morning Herald, July 27, 2002:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/27/1027497418339.html

"Secret FEMA Plan To Use Pastors as Pacifiers in Preparation For Martial Law: Nationwide initiative trains volunteers to teach congregations to 'obey the government' during seizure of guns, property, forced inoculations and forced relocation," Paul Joseph Watson, Prison Planet.com, May 24, 2006:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/240506femaplan.htm

"Paramilitary Secret Police Kidnap, Detain, Torture Bilderberg Investigators: Interrogators threatened to 'cut off arms' during 6 hour marathon of hell," Paul Joseph Watson, Prison Planet.com, June 29, 2006:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/060706manraided.htm

"Terror Canadian Style," Joe Burd, TruthMovement.CA, [accessed June 28, 2006]:

http://www.fathers.ca/anyone_can_be_called_an_insurgent.htm

http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/terror_canadian_style.htm

"Man Raided By FBI, ATF, Canadian Law Enforcement After Handing Out 'Subversive' Alex Jones Material: Gun seller questioned on militia, ownership of George Washington speeches," Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones, Prison Planet.com, July 6, 2006:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/060706manraided.htm

chefmike
08-04-2006, 09:22 PM
Attorney General Gonzalez has declared war on ALL porn...the chimp-in-chief is fond of him because he served as shrubya's legal counsel and execution czar while the shrub was guv of Texas... where Gonzalez specialized in advising the shrub in regards to the speedy execution of retarded people ( I guess it's lucky for shrubya that he never wound up on death row in Texas :wink: )...



U.S. Attorney's Porn Fight Gets Bad Reviews
Obscenity Prosecution Task Force will focus on Internet crimes and peer-to-peer distribution of pornography
Julie Kay
Daily Business Review
August 30, 2005


When FBI supervisors in Miami met with new interim U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta last month, they wondered what the top enforcement priority for Acosta and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales would be.

Would it be terrorism? Organized crime? Narcotics trafficking? Immigration? Or maybe public corruption?

The agents were stunned to learn that a top prosecutorial priority of Acosta and the Department of Justice was none of the above. Instead, Acosta told them, it's obscenity. Not pornography involving children, but pornographic material featuring consenting adults.

Acosta's stated goal of prosecuting distributors of adult porn has angered federal and local law enforcement officials, as well as prosecutors in his own office. They say there are far more important issues in a high-crime area like South Florida, which is an international hub at risk for terrorism, money laundering and other dangerous activities.

Sources say Acosta was told by the FBI officials during last month's meeting that obscenity prosecution would have to be handled by the crimes against children unit. But that unit is already overworked and would have to take agents off cases of child endangerment to work on adult porn cases. Acosta replied that this was Attorney General Gonzales' mandate.

rest of this article here-
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1125318960389

Recruits Sought for Porn Squad

By Barton Gellman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, September 20, 2005; A21

The FBI is joining the Bush administration's War on Porn. And it's looking for a few good agents.

Early last month, the bureau's Washington Field Office began recruiting for a new anti-obscenity squad. Attached to the job posting was a July 29 Electronic Communication from FBI headquarters to all 56 field offices, describing the initiative as "one of the top priorities" of Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales and, by extension, of "the Director." That would be FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III.

Mischievous commentary began propagating around the water coolers at 601 Fourth St. NW and its satellites, where the FBI's second-largest field office concentrates on national security, high-technology crimes and public corruption.

The new squad will divert eight agents, a supervisor and assorted support staff to gather evidence against "manufacturers and purveyors" of pornography -- not the kind exploiting children, but the kind that depicts, and is marketed to, consenting adults.

"I guess this means we've won the war on terror," said one exasperated FBI agent, speaking on the condition of anonymity because poking fun at headquarters is not regarded as career-enhancing. "We must not need any more resources for espionage."

Among friends and trusted colleagues, an experienced national security analyst said, "it's a running joke for us."

the rest of this article here-

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/19/AR2005091901570_pf.html