What would I earn as a transgender escort in London?

[Dita_K]

So I'm a twenty-one year old trans-female from Melbourne - I had recently relocated to Sydney this year for work, and the sun. :cool:

Finding that larger markets comes with a scarier, more intense, more "Real" territory - Definitely not in Kansas anymore here. So I guess it's also taught me that choosing where to go, it's also very, very important to choose the least-scariest locations possible. I'm very emotionally sensitive on estrogen so I just cannot actually be an escort if I'm not treated well. :kiss:

However - London, now I have my cross-hairs set on London. I am also wondering if perhaps London would be less scary than Sydney?

I have this picture of English politeness/civility painted in my mind - disregard my naivety if it is naive and it's actually alot harder and more intense than Sydney.

So in Australia - we luckily have the highest escort rates in the entire world.

However, in London I can imagine the demand and market for transgender escorts would be immense - and London is in such an exciting location and I have an EU passport!

But rates, and demand - I have no idea of what kind of picture to paint of what kind of demand I would receive, therefore my rates.

I thought I could pin alot of emphasis on my educational background and articulation - however I've found that not to translate into as much as what I assumed it would.

I guess my down-fall is my lack of implants however I don't really want any, and although I socially transitioned very young (Twelve) - I'd only begun taking estrogen this year and so I have entirely feminine thighs, ass and waist, my breasts are a little flat.

http://i62.tinypic.com/2ce10xv.png
http://i60.tinypic.com/1430q9y.png
http://i57.tinypic.com/2l9qwyh.png

But just a general idea; What rates would I expect - and what would the demand be like?

Is it it worth it - I'm just so... not sure...

What if I get there and it's even more scary than Sydney and I have to escort for a rate that isn't viable to be an escort!

[Dita_K]

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[flabbybody]

If you're not physically fully transitioned and happy where you are then you can tap into the TV crowd. A very large number of us are not obsessed with "passabllity". It's all about the illusion of femininity. Your pics are extremely hot.

[Dita_K]

TV-crowd? I'm a female.

I don't know why in trans-escorting being "Fully-transitioned" is getting breast implants without SRS. I'm pretty sure, generally it's the opposite way around. "Transitioning" is when you get SRS as the defining line, when you're written off from the escorting industry as a post-op woman.

Breast implants are just two silicon spheres/optional.

I guess I'm almost "Done" transitioning when I reach month 11-13 of hormone replacement therapy as it won't go any further from that point.

But I don't understand the pre-occupation with breast implants being such a huge dividing line?

Here are mine as-so-far, there are females who have breasts naturally of this size:

http://www.ditaklein.com/images/portfolio/farmerboy.jpg

But pass-ability? I do natural/passable looks as-well in my escort portfolio. If the colored hair gave a certain impression it wouldn't be so in context of my wider portfolio.

[flabbybody]

poor judgement on my part using TV reference.
please accept my apology

[Dita_K]

poor judgement on my part using TV reference.
please accept my apology

Oh and sorry about the slightly confrontational-edge to the way I wrote it! I attempted to edit it to re-word it but it wouldn't allow me to -

x

[smooth007]

Potentially London is a lucrative market for sexy unique ladies. We have lots of latin and Asian girls in London so if you came your demand will be high. Looking at your photos you are really sexy and feminine so you would be very popular.

Hope you come London and see how it is.

[Jack8941]

Your gorgeous I'd say if u put your rates at
Half hr £80
1 hr £130
Overnite £600

[nysprod]

Not that I'm an expert on the subject but from what I've gathered here, your ability to maximize earnings pretty much anywhere will be directly related to your size and ability to top.

You also mentioned hormones so if you're not getting hard currently it's probably best to stay where you are, given the considerable cash required to travel and support yourself.

[SXFX]

Either just be safe you are a very cute girl.
So say it with me...i shall not get any neck or belly tattos....i shall not get any silicone shoved in my ass and I WILL NOT DATE ANY THUGS!

[harryP123]

So I'm a twenty-one year old trans-female from Melbourne - I had recently relocated to Sydney this year for work, and the sun. :cool:

Finding that larger markets comes with a scarier, more intense, more "Real" territory - Definitely not in Kansas anymore here. So I guess it's also taught me that choosing where to go, it's also very, very important to choose the least-scariest locations possible. I'm very emotionally sensitive on estrogen so I just cannot actually be an escort if I'm not treated well. :kiss:

However - London, now I have my cross-hairs set on London. I am also wondering if perhaps London would be less scary than Sydney?

I have this picture of English politeness/civility painted in my mind - disregard my naivety if it is naive and it's actually alot harder and more intense than Sydney.

So in Australia - we luckily have the highest escort rates in the entire world.

However, in London I can imagine the demand and market for transgender escorts would be immense - and London is in such an exciting location and I have an EU passport!

But rates, and demand - I have no idea of what kind of picture to paint of what kind of demand I would receive, therefore my rates.

I thought I could pin alot of emphasis on my educational background and articulation - however I've found that not to translate into as much as what I assumed it would.

I guess my down-fall is my lack of implants however I don't really want any, and although I socially transitioned very young (Twelve) - I'd only begun taking estrogen this year and so I have entirely feminine thighs, ass and waist, my breasts are a little flat.

http://i62.tinypic.com/2ce10xv.png
http://i60.tinypic.com/1430q9y.png
http://i57.tinypic.com/2l9qwyh.png

But just a general idea; What rates would I expect - and what would the demand be like?

Is it it worth it - I'm just so... not sure...

What if I get there and it's even more scary than Sydney and I have to escort for a rate that isn't viable to be an escort!

You look great Dita, Love the little boobs!
Let's just say...I'd call on you :)

[Dita_K]

Your gorgeous I'd say if u put your rates at
Half hr £80
1 hr £130
Overnite £600

Those rates are absolutely insane. $200!?!?!?!???! May aswell just work in a call center.

[Jamie French]

Nope. I sub only and haven't had to hold down a day job in over 8 years.


Not that I'm an expert on the subject but from what I've gathered here, your ability to maximize earnings pretty much anywhere will be directly related to your size and ability to top.

You also mentioned hormones so if you're not getting hard currently it's probably best to stay where you are, given the considerable cash required to travel and support yourself.

[Jamie French]

What call center pays $200 an hour?


Those rates are absolutely insane. $200!?!?!?!???! May aswell just work in a call center.

[rodinuk]

The median rate in London is £150 per hour/ £100 per half hour.

Providers will charge up to £150 per half hour in order to discourage short appointments.

Expect to pay £200 per hour for an established quality escort.



Those rates are absolutely insane. $200!?!?!?!???! May aswell just work in a call center.

[Jamie French]

Break down: $200 per day, 4 days a week = $41,600 per year. x 5 years = $208,000 = house, car, some college/whatever. Not bad for a combined total of 1040 hours worked. Regular folks suffer absolutely life crushing hours/years/decades for far worse wages.

If you can make even half that total for nothing more than looking pretty and rubbing your skin against some dude's skin every so often, consider yourself fortunate.

[holzz]

A lot...compared to other British people...

Are you thinking of central London or the outskirts? Central London may be better for tourists, but then even on the outskirts for only natives as it were you'd still make a lot. This would affect rents, because getting in the Docklands, Bayswater, Mayfair, Soho, Bloombury, Southwark, etc. is really fucking expensive. Your US or French or fellow Aussie may not know Brixton, Hampstead, Bromley, Willesden, Croydon, or any other outskirt area that well, nonetheless it would be far cheaper rent.....

An attractive and (let's cut to the chase here) endowed escorts can get 100 per client from 3 clients a day, so this is 1500 pounds for 5 days, and then 6000 pounds for one month. And for all of the year this is 72000 pounds, which again is a good salary for anybody in the UK, and just for shagging...:)

I lost my anal virginity to a TS in London, so always eager to help any of you out in that city...:D

[holzz]

So I'm a twenty-one year old trans-female from Melbourne - I had recently relocated to Sydney this year for work, and the sun. :cool:

Finding that larger markets comes with a scarier, more intense, more "Real" territory - Definitely not in Kansas anymore here. So I guess it's also taught me that choosing where to go, it's also very, very important to choose the least-scariest locations possible. I'm very emotionally sensitive on estrogen so I just cannot actually be an escort if I'm not treated well. :kiss:

However - London, now I have my cross-hairs set on London. I am also wondering if perhaps London would be less scary than Sydney?

I have this picture of English politeness/civility painted in my mind - disregard my naivety if it is naive and it's actually alot harder and more intense than Sydney.

So in Australia - we luckily have the highest escort rates in the entire world.

However, in London I can imagine the demand and market for transgender escorts would be immense - and London is in such an exciting location and I have an EU passport!

But rates, and demand - I have no idea of what kind of picture to paint of what kind of demand I would receive, therefore my rates.

I thought I could pin alot of emphasis on my educational background and articulation - however I've found that not to translate into as much as what I assumed it would.

I guess my down-fall is my lack of implants however I don't really want any, and although I socially transitioned very young (Twelve) - I'd only begun taking estrogen this year and so I have entirely feminine thighs, ass and waist, my breasts are a little flat.

http://i62.tinypic.com/2ce10xv.png
http://i60.tinypic.com/1430q9y.png
http://i57.tinypic.com/2l9qwyh.png

But just a general idea; What rates would I expect - and what would the demand be like?

Is it it worth it - I'm just so... not sure...

What if I get there and it's even more scary than Sydney and I have to escort for a rate that isn't viable to be an escort!


Average London/UK prices are 100-150 pounds per hour....then every hour after is 100 pounds or so more.

Demand is VERY high in central London...makes sense with all of the visitors, tourists, shoppers, businesspeople, etc. And you look very cute, but then you shouldn't use your full body photos above, you'd get more custom if you showed your cock..:)

The only thing as said that's negative is rent, but then it doesn't have to be a large place or even well furnished. As long as it's clean and easy for clients to get to (if in central London you have to consider the Tube/bus access) then it's fine.

Hope you do well, and when I'm in London I'd like to drop in. :D :)

[holzz]

Those rates are absolutely insane. $200!?!?!?!???! May aswell just work in a call center.


these are the standard rates....kind of similar in most big cities in the world, if one thinks about it.

[holzz]

and you say you're not passable....erm, if not, then i don't know who is...:D

[Jericho]

A lot of very unreal expectations going on in this thread! :shrug

[Dita_K]

Hey how do I add a profile image on this thing?

Alright well I've gathered from this is that I'm definitely, DEFINITELY not going to London. Although I'm sure it'd be lots of fun, maybe I'll make it a working holiday or another.

I guess I'll stay here...

[miketaylor912]

rita your maths seems to be way off and you seem to have no clue what you are talking about!! first no call centre pays 200 dollars,second you are earning pounds here so from each client you are looking at making around 200-300 aus dollars,so if you see around 3 clients a day you are looking at around 1000 a day thats 7000 a week !!! what world are you living in where thats a bad salary to earn in the uk !!

[Dita_K]

In Australia even for not that great trans-escorts it's $400 p/h, so it would be a big step-down.

I ment call centre as a day rate - as there are some around here that have daily rates in the national average salary.

Anyways this thread is really stupid and It's not really that chic to ask such an open question, but I was really curious to a varied and in-depth response.

[Dita_K]

Can a moderator please delete this topic; it's pretty blah - :D. P.S. How do you find a way to message a moderator on this?

x

[GroobySteven]

Rarely do moderators delete posts. When people have spent time answering posts, it would be dis-respectful to remove them. Just leave it and it will die.

[davo757]

Maybe we all need to move to Australia if everything pays so much more there.....

[Jamie French]

Derp? $400 must be be like 50 bucks over Down Under.

[nysprod]

Derp? $400 must be be like 50 bucks over Down Under.

400 AUD is currently around 340 USD

[Dita_K]

Bleughhh no --- I really, really think it should be removed. :(((((((((

[Jamie French]

Threads generally don't get deleted. It would set a bad precedent. If it's done for one innocuous thread, everybody and their mother would start wanting threads removed for all sorts of unimportant reasons.


Bleughhh no --- I really, really think it should be removed. :(((((((((

[Dita_K]

I'm super-super uncomfortable about that.

The only other forum I venture on is Punters Planet - and on the off-occassion I post something I seriously regret, it gets removed in the second,

Anyways, my saga here only lasted 11 posts - I'll go back there.

Bye everyone. x

[Dita_K]

"If it's done for one innocuous thread, everybody and their mother would start wanting threads removed for all sorts of unimportant reasons."

Not really. If the poster-base is civil/reasonable.

[Dita_K]

There's no hardcore reason it shouldn't be removed if I'm the original poster and the general sway of the thread is making someone upset -

With an underlying harsh, un-welcoming and un-empathetic tone :(,

I shouldn't have put myself out-there in such a context.

[SuzySnappz]

I like the current policy that posts are not deleted (except in extreme cases). There's nothing wrong with your question, you shouldn't feel bad about asking it, and some of the answers were worthwhile.

You are quite attractive and I'd guess you'd make more than the average rate in London. But if Australian rates are really among the highest in the world as you say (like $340/hr USD average), then you'll probably not do much better in London. BTW the average rate in the U.S. is more like $200-250/hr USD, which is my range.

Also, you can usually command a higher rate simply by traveling and not staying in any one place for too long. But there are expenses with traveling, too.

[ocguy]

Hey Dita! I am in Sydney as well, nice to see a fellow aussie on here

[Baggins]

Ok,
To appease Dita here are the maths. If you see 4 punters per day at £150 an hour that is £600 per day. If you only work only 5 days a week and have some weeks off you will still make in the region of £150,000 a year. At the current exchange rate that is about 280,000 Australian dollars a year.
I hope that answers your question.
I don't think anyone objected to the question per-se, I think that it may have been your assertion that you could make more in a call centre.
Anyway, stick around for a bit. once you have found out how things work around here it is a great resource and sometimes can be quite fun

[maleforts]

I'm super-super uncomfortable about that.

The only other forum I venture on is Punters Planet - and on the off-occassion I post something I seriously regret, it gets removed in the second,

Anyways, my saga here only lasted 11 posts - I'll go back there.

Bye everyone. x


So you get what you want then want post removed? You a serial post deleter. Lol.

[Skye]

Here's a question that I have, since this topic is about rates and stuff...

I live in london, ONTARIO, and I really have to ask, in a city that's near 400,000 populace, why are the rates so low? I thought about going into escorting, but it's like 150/30, 200/60mins, and it kind of seems shitty.

I mean not that I, myself, could actually escort. I don't look good enough for it. lol.

[Jamie French]

$200/hr jobs are just the worst. You can't even buy gold infused panda bacon with that kind of scratch. What's the point?

[Skye]

Well, I suppose that's why London, ON, doesn't have a large selection:
http://www.shemalecanada.com/ontario/london/

Unless there's a different site that is used. I wouldn't know. But I really feel like it should be more than that, here. I don't know how you find out what it should go for, especially for a complete beginner (like me) who is looking at getting into it. But, then again, I'm just thinking based on the fact that I'm not passable that I probably wouldn't even be able to ask 150 for an hour, and it's poopy, because that's still more than I'd make working a boring 9 - 5 job.

I don't particularly think I have a horrible body. It's my face that is just god-awful. I mean, I've got solid boobs and a decent sized dick, for what it matters. If it matters, at all. I don't know what matters, lol. The key is I'd love to get into porn or escorting or what not, because it fits my kinky, weird, publicly sexual personality.

[Jamie French]

You simply charge anything you want to start and then whittle away at your price until you get a feel for your own personal market value. It's pretty easy stuff.

[Skye]

I do imagine my lack of passability would impact what I could make, though. Gosh, why can't people just offer as opposed to having to set a price. I always sucked at the bargaining / mercantile aspect of video games. lol

[Jamie French]

Start at 300 and work your way down if business is slow. Problem solved.

[Skye]

you're awesome. hehe