falling in love and dating tgirl escort

[foolish99]

anyone have any experience/thoughts about falling in love with or actually dating tgirl escort? do "bad" girls really ever change and commit to one guy - at least emotionally? is it always a total disaster? is it just a guaranteed hustle/con? would I just a dumb guy getting conned? or couldit be a path to true love? advice and/or stories appreciated .... (as you can probably tell, I am falling in love, assured that she loves me too, but fearful of getting taken for a ride (I would have to make some major change to my life (divorce, etc) in order to really pursue something with her and I do not want to make a mistake)

[PlayfulJohn]

anyone have any experience/thoughts about falling in love with or actually dating tgirl escort? do "bad" girls really ever change and commit to one guy - at least emotionally? is it always a total disaster? is it just a guaranteed hustle/con? would I just a dumb guy getting conned? or couldit be a path to true love? advice and/or stories appreciated .... (as you can probably tell, I am falling in love, assured that she loves me too, but fearful of getting taken for a ride (I would have to make some major change to my life (divorce, etc) in order to really pursue something with her and I do not want to make a mistake)

I am in a similar situation and would like to hear some responses as well.
So far, I'm fearful of the worst but still hopeful for the best outcome. Love is blind you know.

[houstonshemalefan]

As an EXPERT in dating prostitutes, I advise both of you NOT to go any further than a professional relationship. Keep it as a hobby, not as a lifestyle and you will be fine.

If you think you find a girl (ts or not) that changes a bit, they will be back doing what they did prior to meeting you. Even if you are loaded with money and can support all her spending habits, she will still want her freedom.

Don't sacrifice a good thing at home for some lustful loss.

[suckseed]

But as a divorced guy who should have broken up his marriage a couple of years before he did, I'd add that it sounds like both of you guys have problems anyway....being unhappily married sucks. You may have responsibilties I didn't, kids etc., but whether or not your plans with the TS's work out...you're not doing your wives any favors by staying with them of you are no longer in love with them. Get yourselves free and give your wives a chance to find someone who may like them better. You each owe me two cents... :roll:

[Quinn]

anyone have any experience/thoughts about falling in love with or actually dating tgirl escort? do "bad" girls really ever change and commit to one guy - at least emotionally? is it always a total disaster? is it just a guaranteed hustle/con? would I just a dumb guy getting conned? or couldit be a path to true love? advice and/or stories appreciated .... (as you can probably tell, I am falling in love, assured that she loves me too, but fearful of getting taken for a ride (I would have to make some major change to my life (divorce, etc) in order to really pursue something with her and I do not want to make a mistake)

Tie a bunch of raw steaks to your body, then go and jump in the middle of a school of hammerhead sharks during a feeding frenzy. Your chances of coming out alive are about the same as your chances of finding true love with an escort to whom you are a client. You will get hustled.

-Quinn

[thecollossus30]

I dated a TS escort and also lived together, if you find the right gurl it wouldnt matter if she was a TS and, or an escort

[AllanahStarrNYC]

well in all honesty-

i know girls who have boyfriends and i have had boyfriends and currently have a boyfriend and i am in the sex business. i have never had a boyfriend that i met as a client. but there are actually some girls out there like mysellf, who are nice people which can really seperate their work from their personal lives. in fact, i know quite a few girls who are escorts and have boyfriends.

not all of us are green monsters who just look men as walking atm machines. so please do not group everyone or stereotype us as a group.

speaking for myself, i am an independant woman and no matter if i was with a rich man, i would still want to work and be independant and contribute to the relationship.

that does mean that there are not gold diggers out there. last i heard they came in all sexes :)

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Dating any woman that escorts is a challenge to any man that is willing to give it a try.

Ask yourself questions like this:

1. Can you go a few hours or even days while your escort/girl works an escort without letting it bug you mentally?

2. Are you willing to put her emotions 1st after she's had a long exhausting day with some good/bad clients?

3. Will you be understanding when she doesn't want to see you or fuck you because of things like depression, or a hormone shot?

4. Can you hang out with her without sex on the mind? For more than a night?

[msnaughtygirl4uu]

i believe if the man really loves the girl and understand that she is only doing what she do for buisness.... and nothing more... and alway let it be known that she love him it can work out ....

[foolish99]

Dating any woman that escorts is a challenge to any man that is willing to give it a try.

Ask yourself questions like this:

1. Can you go a few hours or even days while your escort/girl works an escort without letting it bug you mentally?
YES -- so long as it is just work. Repeat clients with whom she trades loving emails/text messages are much tougher to swallow.

2. Are you willing to put her emotions 1st after she's had a long exhausting day with some good/bad clients?
OF COURSE

3. Will you be understanding when she doesn't want to see you or fuck you because of things like depression, or a hormone shot?
OF COURSE

4. Can you hang out with her without sex on the mind? For more than a night?
OF COURSE -- HAS NEVER BEEN PROBLEM THUS FAR --
_________________

[AllanahStarrNYC]

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2. Are you willing to put her emotions 1st after she's had a long exhausting day with some good/bad clients?

3. Will you be understanding when she doesn't want to see you or fuck you because of things like depression, or a hormone shot?

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I think these questions can be applies to ANYONE not just escorts.

2. A man can have a logn day at work and come home and be moody and if u are in a relationship you are both going to have bad days- ITS CALLED COMPROMISE and understanding no matter what you do for a living on both ends.

3. Last time I heard, men and women can get depressed too. Women have periods and sometimes guys are not in the mood to have sex either. And anyone can get moody.

[Quinn]

Dating any woman . . . is a challenge to any man. . . .

4. Can you hang out with her without sex on the mind? For more than a night?

LOL..... Uh............. Um......... No, I can barely manage this for an hour, let alone a whole night. Having a high libido really does suck.

-Quinn

[AllanahStarrNYC]

And let me add- that relationships are a challenge to any type of couple. It is challeging for a woman to date anyman as well because men and women see and think of things COMPLETELY differently. If you want to be in a relationship, you have to work at understanding and respecting those differences. God knows I have had to work at it- but you work at it when YOU want to to better YOURSELF and understanding YOUR PARTNER better. Yes, relationships require work and compromise most of the time- but it should not be straining, draining the life out of you work constantly.

[BeardedOne]

This is so tough a situation that you really can't go by anyone else's experience. It's too specific to your own relationship, her 'business', and your own attitudes/morals.

Hell, I don't believe in 'love' in the mainstream, since I've had too many women (And some men, and at least one 'tweener') scrag me over the years to allow me any belief that it exists at all. Yet people still try, and believe, as much as any religion or faith system.

I really wish you the best of luck, guy, but wear your flame retardant skivvies and coat your heart with Kevlar, 'cuz it could prove to be a very bumpy ride.

[hondarobot]

My take on it is that there is definately a difference in dating a sex worker (of either gender) MOST of the time. I think that seems to be the observed reality in Most cases, there are exeptions but they are not the general rule. Why is this the case? Who knows? There are the obvious potential reasons, but what it comes down to is sometimes things just don't work out.

I think some people very much want to be in serious stable relationships, and make judgments in error to achieve that end. Don't be in love with the idea of being in love, make sure it's the person you're interested in and not the circumstance you're chasing. Also, even if you are in serious Love, sometimes that's just not enough. If things just don't seem to click on a permanent, bonded, "man and future wife" type level, accept the facts and try not to make a mess of things on the way out.

Actually that's pretty useless advice. Guys frequently tend to make a mess of things and eventually need to be bounced out on their ass, it's part of the curse of being a guy. If we wuss out and give up on something, we didn't try hard enough. If we fight to the bitter end, we make asses of ourselves. Can't win.

My advice to the person posting this thread is: Tie yourself to the mast and prepare to ride the storm out. The sea is a cruel mistress, and she always wins.

If you wanna save yourself the journey, stay friends with the girl and placate yourself with casual dating and porn.

[Quixote]

Wake up from the dream and take control of yourself and your life. Being "in love" is a whole different deal than what comes after the initial bloom fades. Afterward, you are left to deal with the real people and real situations that you romanticised during the "in love" phase. You have to be a mature and strong person who can deal with and treat another with love and understanding in even the most ideal circumstances. You have to care for your own well being and be able to know when a situation is good for you or not.

Don't romanticize it. She's fucking other guys. She's spending a lot of time trying to get guys to come over and fuck. There is not going to be a lot left in the tank, emotionally or sexually, for you most of the time. Many are not very mature women, with all that entails. Many are not very secure emotionally. Many have problems as a result of growing up in less than ideal relationships with their parents among other things.

It will be hard for you both to give and receive from each other in healthy, nuturing ways. The escorting business will get in the way of that. Count on it.

Open your eyes and know what you are getting into. Get to know each other honestly and deeply. Face the hard truths. Don't think of yourself as a hero, rescuing the damsel in distress. Or the courageous one, going against socially accepted norms. Just look at yourself and her, and try to figure out who you both really are, both as individuals and in relation to each other. Then, maybe, just maybe, you've got a chance.

[Phat]

I dated a TS escort and also lived together, if you find the right gurl it wouldnt matter if she was a TS and, or an escort

I'm sure no escort would be opposed to a free place to stay along with necessities if they were in need!

[PlayfulJohn]

Great input from all.

Thanks

[hondarobot]

Wake up from the dream and take control of yourself and your life. Being "in love" is a whole different deal than what comes after the initial bloom fades. Afterward, you are left to deal with the real people and real situations that you romanticised during the "in love" phase. You have to be a mature and strong person who can deal with and treat another with love and understanding in even the most ideal circumstances. You have to care for your own well being and be able to know when a situation is good for you or not.

Don't romanticize it. She's fucking other guys. She's spending a lot of time trying to get guys to come over and fuck. There is not going to be a lot left in the tank, emotionally or sexually, for you most of the time. Many are not very mature women, with all that entails. Many are not very secure emotionally. Many have problems as a result of growing up in less than ideal relationships with their parents among other things.

It will be hard for you both to give and receive from each other in healthy, nuturing ways. The escorting business will get in the way of that. Count on it.

Open your eyes and know what you are getting into. Get to know each other honestly and deeply. Face the hard truths. Don't think of yourself as a hero, rescuing the damsel in distress. Or the courageous one, going against socially accepted norms. Just look at yourself and her, and try to figure out who you both really are, both as individuals and in relation to each other. Then, maybe, just maybe, you've got a chance.

Bah! Love is the Chimera, it's mythic by nature. If a person ever catches hold of it, it's not interesting anymore.

I'm thinking of that line from the movie "Jaws":

"I'm never putting on a life jacket again".

Love is two people using each other as crying towels and fuck machines.

Fuck love.

[Ecstatic]

I think it can and ocassionally does happen, but it's very rare given the nature of both her work and how you met. I am friends with a few girls that I met as escorts (and one who is an escort but who I met socially before seeing as a client), but friendship is as much as I would ever expect. Then again, I am happily married, so friendship is the ideal scenario for me. If you are hoping for true love, take heed of what others have posted; I think there's a lot of truth that's been spoken.

[Quixote]

lol
Actually, love is mostly an unconscious physiological process, that takes place in the limbic portion of the brain, by which mammals bond, learn to socialize, and regulate each other's state of mind and body.
Unfortunately, we rarely recognize it or honor it because we are too busy tilting at windmills. Our neo-cortical brain sends us off in pursuit of the short-lived, ephemeral pleasures of career, consumerism, and getting ahead as a result of the emotionally unhealthy values we've adopted as a society.

[ezed]

"Doctor Howard, Doctor Fine, Doctor Howard!"

[YasminLee]

THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED MATTER...VERY MUCH FOR THE GUYS AND PROBABLY MORE SO FOR THE GALS MOST TS HAD BEEN THROUGH A LOT. SOME LOST THEIR FAMILY, FRIENDS, JOB. ALL IN THE PERSUE OF THEIR SOULFUL SELF. THEY THEN FALL INTO A LIFESTYLE OF ESCORTING. SOME SAY BY CHOICE AND I AGREE..IT IS HOWEVER FOR MOST A DECISION AFTER MANY OTHER WINDOWS OF OPPORTUNITY HAD CLOSE AFTER TRANSITIONING. NOT ALL GIRLS CAN BE PASSABLE ENOUGH TO LIE ABOUT WHO THEY ARE AND HAVE A NORMAL LIFE. HOOKIN, IT'S AN EASY PATH: NOT EVERYONE HAS THE ENERGY OR THE EMOTION TO KEEP ON HURDLING. SO HERE SHE IS ON HORMONES, AND SINCE SHE START YOUNG AND BUSY WITH HER BATTLE, SHE'S NOT IN SHCOOL AND HAVE NO MEANS TO SUPPORT HER VERY EXPENSIVE JOURNETY TO BECOMING HER IDEAL SELF. MAKE UP, CLOTHES, SHOES, AND SURGERIES IN ORDER HAVE A CHANCE TO SURVIVE IN A CUMMUNITY WHERE SUCCESS BASE ON LOOKS. THEN THE FELLAS, WHAT HAD THEY GONE THROUGH TO DESERVE THESE FRAGILE GODDESSES. TO MOST. WE ARE JUST A NITE OF FANTASY AND OR A VACATIONAL FUCK. U'RE ASKING THESE GIRLS TO GIVE UP EVERYTHING TO TAKE A CHANCE WITH U. MONEY AND SEX IN THIS COMMUNITY IS NOT JUST EXCHANGE OF SERVICE BUT ALSO A BALANCE OF POWER. CONSIDER IT A MERE CONTRIBUTION TO THEIR HARD EXISTENCE. GOOD LUCK GUYS..IT'S A BIG BUBBLE SHE LIVES IN AND IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF LOVE, TENDER, CARE, AND UNDERSTAND TO BREAK THROUGH IT. . BE PREPARE FOR A RIDE.

[south ov da border]

THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED MATTER...VERY MUCH FOR THE GUYS AND PROBABLY MORE SO FOR THE GALS MOST TS HAD BEEN THROUGH A LOT. SOME LOST THEIR FAMILY, FRIENDS, JOB. ALL IN THE PERSUE OF THEIR SOULFUL SELF. THEY THEN FALL INTO A LIFESTYLE OF ESCORTING. SOME SAY BY CHOICE AND I AGREE..IT IS HOWEVER FOR MOST A DECISION AFTER MANY OTHER WINDOWS OF OPPORTUNITY HAD CLOSE AFTER TRANSITIONING. NOT ALL GIRLS CAN BE PASSABLE ENOUGH TO LIE ABOUT WHO THEY ARE AND HAVE A NORMAL LIFE. HOOKIN, IT'S AN EASY PATH: NOT EVERYONE HAS THE ENERGY OR THE EMOTION TO KEEP ON HURDLING. SO HERE SHE IS ON HORMONES, AND SINCE SHE START YOUNG AND BUSY WITH HER BATTLE, SHE'S NOT IN SHCOOL AND HAVE NO MEANS TO SUPPORT HER VERY EXPENSIVE JOURNETY TO BECOMING HER IDEAL SELF. MAKE UP, CLOTHES, SHOES, AND SURGERIES IN ORDER HAVE A CHANCE TO SURVIVE IN A CUMMUNITY WHERE SUCCESS BASE ON LOOKS. THEN THE FELLAS, WHAT HAD THEY GONE THROUGH TO DESERVE THESE FRAGILE GODDESSES. TO MOST. WE ARE JUST A NITE OF FANTASY AND OR A VACATIONAL FUCK. U'RE ASKING THESE GIRLS TO GIVE UP EVERYTHING TO TAKE A CHANCE WITH U. MONEY AND SEX IN THIS COMMUNITY IS NOT JUST EXCHANGE OF SERVICE BUT ALSO A BALANCE OF POWER. CONSIDER IT A MERE CONTRIBUTION TO THEIR HARD EXISTENCE. GOOD LUCK GUYS..IT'S A BIG BUBBLE SHE LIVES IN AND IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF LOVE, TENDER, CARE, AND UNDERSTAND TO BREAK THROUGH IT. . BE PREPARE FOR A RIDE.


that sums it up to me. Well spoken...

[PlayfulJohn]

THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED MATTER...VERY MUCH FOR THE GUYS AND PROBABLY MORE SO FOR THE GALS MOST TS HAD BEEN THROUGH A LOT. SOME LOST THEIR FAMILY, FRIENDS, JOB. ALL IN THE PERSUE OF THEIR SOULFUL SELF. THEY THEN FALL INTO A LIFESTYLE OF ESCORTING. SOME SAY BY CHOICE AND I AGREE..IT IS HOWEVER FOR MOST A DECISION AFTER MANY OTHER WINDOWS OF OPPORTUNITY HAD CLOSE AFTER TRANSITIONING. NOT ALL GIRLS CAN BE PASSABLE ENOUGH TO LIE ABOUT WHO THEY ARE AND HAVE A NORMAL LIFE. HOOKIN, IT'S AN EASY PATH: NOT EVERYONE HAS THE ENERGY OR THE EMOTION TO KEEP ON HURDLING. SO HERE SHE IS ON HORMONES, AND SINCE SHE START YOUNG AND BUSY WITH HER BATTLE, SHE'S NOT IN SHCOOL AND HAVE NO MEANS TO SUPPORT HER VERY EXPENSIVE JOURNETY TO BECOMING HER IDEAL SELF. MAKE UP, CLOTHES, SHOES, AND SURGERIES IN ORDER HAVE A CHANCE TO SURVIVE IN A CUMMUNITY WHERE SUCCESS BASE ON LOOKS. THEN THE FELLAS, WHAT HAD THEY GONE THROUGH TO DESERVE THESE FRAGILE GODDESSES. TO MOST. WE ARE JUST A NITE OF FANTASY AND OR A VACATIONAL FUCK. U'RE ASKING THESE GIRLS TO GIVE UP EVERYTHING TO TAKE A CHANCE WITH U. MONEY AND SEX IN THIS COMMUNITY IS NOT JUST EXCHANGE OF SERVICE BUT ALSO A BALANCE OF POWER. CONSIDER IT A MERE CONTRIBUTION TO THEIR HARD EXISTENCE. GOOD LUCK GUYS..IT'S A BIG BUBBLE SHE LIVES IN AND IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF LOVE, TENDER, CARE, AND UNDERSTAND TO BREAK THROUGH IT. . BE PREPARE FOR A RIDE.

Thanks Yasmin. I'm willing to take the ride but I don't think she is ready and may never be. I will back out of the picture for her sake.
Take care.

[DJ_Asia]

My 2 cents...

Ive been involved in the sex industry most of the last 15 years,so oddly enough most of my g/f's or wives have been dancers,escorts or porn stars....

I dated a well known escort for awhile and because she had sex for a living,she really had little interest in sex w/ me which was a pisser.She asked me to be patient and understanding,yet all these dudes w/ a couple hundred in their wallet were getting laid and the man who cared for her was getting the song and dance routine. I mean I can relate to an extent.When I used to DJ,I never played around with my sizable CD collection when I got home,and as a photographer I leave my cams in their bags until I need to go to work...but goddamn that was a tough situation and it didnt last too long thankfully before we went our seperate ways.

Prior to that I was married to a GG porn star,who only did lesbian scenes,so for me it was no big deal at all.

Currently I am dating another escort,and,while Im not thrilled about her occupation,she is honest with me and I respect and love her alot and the feeling is mutual.

Yasmine raised some valid points,however she mentions that to most guys TS's are nothing more than fantasy or vacational fucks....well...
For most men the only contact with a real live TS they ever have is IN A PORN MOVIE OR ON A WEBSITE....so of course the guys are gonna have a tough time seperating fact from fantasy..cut em a little slack.

Best bet is finding a nice TS who isnt an escort...tough to do but theyre out there.

[EdelweissFan]

Why does she have to be an escort?

Your initial post seems to assume that all TS, or at least all beautiful TS, are escorts. If you start out looking for a TS escort, you will find a TS escort. If you start out looking for a TS, you might find a well adjusted, employed transgendered woman.

Also there are girls you can meet in escort oriented situations who are not actually escorts. Way back in the mid 1990s when NYC had Club Edelweiss, Sally's, Androgeny, etc., about 1/2 of the girls you would meet hung out in those escort oriented places, did not think of themselves as full time escorts. They had day jobs, liked to hang out where the TGs were, and if some guy hit on them and was willing to pay they might escort for a night. But that was not their profession, and they did not have the golddigger mentality.

Others didn't escort at all, but just wanted to hang out where they felt comfortable. I met a graduate student in fashion, a nurse, a hair stylist, a real estate broker, and others -- all gorgeous, talented and non-escorting.

Why are you aiming for a TS escort when the majority of TS in the country are not actually professionals?

[Quixote]

I dated a well known escort for awhile and because she had sex for a living,she really had little interest in sex w/ me which was a pisser.She asked me to be patient and understanding,yet all these dudes w/ a couple hundred in their wallet were getting laid and the man who cared for her was getting the song and dance routine.

I, too, was in this situation and it is extremely hard to deal with. On top of that, and as beautiful as she was, she was barely making her monthly nut because of her disfunctional status (doubly bad for a black girl-their success seems to be relative to their ability to perform as hung tops more than anything else). As a result, I would always help her out with $$$ rather than see her go down financially. It cost me far more, and I got less sex and time, than her clients. It got so I didn't want to chill on the weekends with her because the phone was always ringing and she was always on edge for the next client, all night long. We had no time to truly relax and enjoy each other. I was like a human yo-yo; in and out, in and out, in and out. I felt disrespected even though it wasn't meant that way.

[hondarobot]

I actually had a really cool, fairly long term friendship with a girl who ran an escort agency. We had sex, I had sex with the agency girls (in exchange for just being amusing, and I'd always have dope, which didn't hurt).

We all partied together and had a great time. Nobody should take these things too seriously, fun is fun, it always should be.

Ahh, damn, now I'm thinking about that time I fucked that really cute brunette in the butt, bent over the toilet in the bathroom. She said:

"I don't know if this is a good time for this."

I said:

"Don't worry about it, we're probably so wasted we wont remember this anyways".

Hehe. . . she had a nice butt, and it was a pretty good time.

Just don't fall in love. Life is too short.

[YasminLee]

dj asia...i am cutting u guys slacks..that's why i haven't given up on love yet.. edel...u're right in some points..however, though i don't know for sure..% are higher than u think of ts escorting...and also..yes, not all of us are gold diggers. i'm working really hard so i can get my surgeries...yes i had guys offering to help...but... as much as i love the adult industry and it's been so good for me..i would settle for a normal lifestyle once i'm done with school and have a little financial security...don't forget how much risks these girls are going through with this line of work...meeting random strangers hoping to make a quick buck...

[hwbs]

there are people that deal with worse occupations that would ruin a relationship......my grandfather has alzheimer's and his aide lives with my grandfather 9 days on and 5 days off.....this is 24 hours a day , for 9 days str8.....he has a wife.....hes not close enough to see his wife during his work time....i think that is harder than dating a girl who escorts...my stepmother is an oncall nurse for a private agency ....when that beeper goes off shes got to leave.....and yes it happens alot .....they have been happily married for 24 years......it all comes down to sacrafice and compromise.....we live in a very selfish society today....that is why very few people stay married....

[foolish99]

Lot of very very helpful and insightful comments here --- thanks to everyone

Pretty sure that I just need to get my heart here to follow my head

Though it may be of less general interest, I can more specifically describe my thoughts here ----

Her escort business is something I can live with for now as a necessary part of her life. It bugs me but I can live with it --- its a job. everyone has a job --- your job does not take your heart. Financially, I am more than able to provide for her for rest of her life (if she wanted that) so someday I would hope that she would choose a different occupation if we were to be together but that time is not now I understand.

There are two related things that have convinced me that falling in love/trusting her/loving her is terrible idea: (1) she lies constantly to me about little and big things (and in ways where it is often easy to catch her); and (2) there is at least one other guy with whom she is having a similar 'loving' relationship -- and she lies to me that she never sees him or talks to him (she accidentily emailed me the itinerary for a trip to see him recently -- something she does not yet know)

Frankly, its this other guy that makes me feel like a jackass. Makes me feel like I am just getting hustled. That I am fun guy who will eventually part with wad of cash for her ....

I certainly dont think that her hormones, her ts status, her work as an escort, etc., has caused her to be deceptive and to 'cheat' --- lots of GGs with boring jobs do the esact same thing --- but I also dont think that any of those things has helped. And I do think that a degree of deception, emotional callousness, ability to turn emotions on and off, etc., comes with the escort job, etc., and never goes away

Thanks again everyone for the thoughts ---

[hondarobot]

Lot of very very helpful and insightful comments here --- thanks to everyone

Pretty sure that I just need to get my heart here to follow my head

Though it may be of less general interest, I can more specifically describe my thoughts here ----

Her escort business is something I can live with for now as a necessary part of her life. It bugs me but I can live with it --- its a job. everyone has a job --- your job does not take your heart. Financially, I am more than able to provide for her for rest of her life (if she wanted that) so someday I would hope that she would choose a different occupation if we were to be together but that time is not now I understand.

There are two related things that have convinced me that falling in love/trusting her/loving her is terrible idea: (1) she lies constantly to me about little and big things (and in ways where it is often easy to catch her); and (2) there is at least one other guy with whom she is having a similar 'loving' relationship -- and she lies to me that she never sees him or talks to him (she accidentily emailed me the itinerary for a trip to see him recently -- something she does not yet know)

Frankly, its this other guy that makes me feel like a jackass. Makes me feel like I am just getting hustled. That I am fun guy who will eventually part with wad of cash for her ....

I certainly dont think that her hormones, her ts status, her work as an escort, etc., has caused her to be deceptive and to 'cheat' --- lots of GGs with boring jobs do the esact same thing --- but I also dont think that any of those things has helped. And I do think that a degree of deception, emotional callousness, ability to turn emotions on and off, etc., comes with the escort job, etc., and never goes away

Thanks again everyone for the thoughts ---

Well, it may be a bit of a simplification, but girls do want to have fun. She probably doesn't see what she's doing as "lying" to you at all, she see's it as a way to spend time with you and still conduct her life.

I'm assuming she's young and attractive, and can provide for herself through her job, which she evidently enjoys. Can you imagine what absolute hell she'd make your life in later years if you took this time away from her now? Seriously, it's in both your interests to back off for the time being and let things progress, or not, without pressure or any absolute predictions for the future.

Besides, you could fool around yourself with other girls, not really much she could say about it. Hehe.

:wink:

[houstonshemalefan]

foolish,

I'm glad to read that you see through her wicked ways. Lies are not tollerable whatsoever, from a GG or a Shemale escort. Just admit to yourself that she is using you and move on. Don't get angry and don't seek revenge, just let it go as a learning lesson and when she tries to contact you again, just don't answer her.

Good luck!

[Phat]

you can't expect to have a serious relationship with an escort when you're a client, but then again you can't knock her for her hustle. stop crying and look for a real relationship.

[MELIKEYBONECAS]

THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED MATTER...VERY MUCH FOR THE GUYS AND PROBABLY MORE SO FOR THE GALS MOST TS HAD BEEN THROUGH A LOT. SOME LOST THEIR FAMILY, FRIENDS, JOB. ALL IN THE PERSUE OF THEIR SOULFUL SELF. THEY THEN FALL INTO A LIFESTYLE OF ESCORTING. SOME SAY BY CHOICE AND I AGREE..IT IS HOWEVER FOR MOST A DECISION AFTER MANY OTHER WINDOWS OF OPPORTUNITY HAD CLOSE AFTER TRANSITIONING. NOT ALL GIRLS CAN BE PASSABLE ENOUGH TO LIE ABOUT WHO THEY ARE AND HAVE A NORMAL LIFE. HOOKIN, IT'S AN EASY PATH: NOT EVERYONE HAS THE ENERGY OR THE EMOTION TO KEEP ON HURDLING. SO HERE SHE IS ON HORMONES, AND SINCE SHE START YOUNG AND BUSY WITH HER BATTLE, SHE'S NOT IN SHCOOL AND HAVE NO MEANS TO SUPPORT HER VERY EXPENSIVE JOURNETY TO BECOMING HER IDEAL SELF. MAKE UP, CLOTHES, SHOES, AND SURGERIES IN ORDER HAVE A CHANCE TO SURVIVE IN A CUMMUNITY WHERE SUCCESS BASE ON LOOKS. THEN THE FELLAS, WHAT HAD THEY GONE THROUGH TO DESERVE THESE FRAGILE GODDESSES. TO MOST. WE ARE JUST A NITE OF FANTASY AND OR A VACATIONAL FUCK. U'RE ASKING THESE GIRLS TO GIVE UP EVERYTHING TO TAKE A CHANCE WITH U. MONEY AND SEX IN THIS COMMUNITY IS NOT JUST EXCHANGE OF SERVICE BUT ALSO A BALANCE OF POWER. CONSIDER IT A MERE CONTRIBUTION TO THEIR HARD EXISTENCE. GOOD LUCK GUYS..IT'S A BIG BUBBLE SHE LIVES IN AND IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF LOVE, TENDER, CARE, AND UNDERSTAND TO BREAK THROUGH IT. . BE PREPARE FOR A RIDE.

YASIM, YOU SEEM TO HAVE YOUR ACT TOGETHER .
I LOVE T-GIRLS ! I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A
REAL REALTIONSHIP WITH SOMEONE LIKE YOU .
LEARN FROM A GURL LIKE YOU .
NEXT TIME I SEE YOU AT 7969 I WILL ATTEMPT TO
SPEAK WITH YOU . ALTHOUGH GIRL, YOU MAKE IT VERY
HARD TO DO SO . I HAVE TRIED ! :oops:
MELIKEY YASMIN ! :D

[blahblahblah]

Falling in love and dating tgirl (both escort and non-escort) always ends up in a disaster. Even an ordinary friendship with such a girl with no sexual intentions in it can easily end up in a disaster. Trust me on that. TG's are quite shady individuals, often very selfish in nature, extremly demanding, they kind of always expect some miracle to happen around them and i really dont know why..

[Phat]

Falling in love and dating tgirl (both escort and non-escort) always ends up in a disaster. Even an ordinary friendship with such a girl with no sexual intentions in it can easily end up in a disaster. Trust me on that. TG's are quite shady individuals, often very selfish in nature, extremly demanding, they kind of always expect some miracle to happen around them and i really dont know why..

that's quite a generalization

[BeardedOne]

Love is two people using each other as crying towels and fuck machines.

Fuck love.

Ah! I knew we were Siamese twins connected at the psyche! :D *Shreik!* :shock:


Why are you aiming for a TS escort when the majority of TS in the country are not actually professionals?

I don't think it's a matter of aiming. Remember the line "Love is blind"? And deaf, dumb, stoopid, and masochistic?


...meeting random strangers hoping to make a quick buck...

Sounds like any service profession to me. Worked in advertising lately?


(1) she lies constantly to me about little and big things (and in ways where it is often easy to catch her); and (2) there is at least one other guy with whom she is having a similar 'loving' relationship -- and she lies to me that she never sees him or talks to him (she accidentily emailed me the itinerary for a trip to see him recently -- something she does not yet know)

Frankly, its this other guy that makes me feel like a jackass.

Uh, wait...=She= lies, and it's the other =guy= that makes you feel like a jackass? :?: Christ! You're starting to sound like my damned 'ex'. :roll: New rules: She lies - Outta here. She makes me feel stoopid, just for knowing her - Outta here. She plays the 'trust' issue on me, and shits all over it herself - Outta here.

Commmon practice, hence, I don't 'date' anymore. :roll:

[LowKey]

well in all honesty-

i know girls who have boyfriends and i have had boyfriends and currently have a boyfriend and i am in the sex business. i have never had a boyfriend that i met as a client. but there are actually some girls out there like mysellf, who are nice people which can really seperate their work from their personal lives. in fact, i know quite a few girls who are escorts and have boyfriends.

not all of us are green monsters who just look men as walking atm machines. so please do not group everyone or stereotype us as a group.

speaking for myself, i am an independant woman and no matter if i was with a rich man, i would still want to work and be independant and contribute to the relationship.

that does mean that there are not gold diggers out there. last i heard they came in all sexes :)


I wish more woman was as up front as you. :D :D

[drock]

i believe if the man really loves the girl and understand that she is only doing what she do for buisness.... and nothing more... and alway let it be known that she love him it can work out ....

damn you're nice and thick baby..

[thecollossus30]

Sometimes in life you come across true love that takes you by suprise, you have to put aside what one might do or what they have done and love them for who they are................ MUAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love ya baby

[Ponyboy]

I'd be too scared to meet someone like Yasmin Lee in case I got hooked on her and ended up being hurt. My heart goes a flutter just looking at her photos.

[yosi]

I dated and fell in love with a tgirl.
we had 2 fantastic years together, I loved every minute of being with her.

so as you can see , real relations with a tgirl ARE possible and quite common 8)

[Kurdy M]

I have sex with t-girls (escorts and non-escorts) for 19 years. Twice a girl fell in love with me but they were in love with other guys too. No problem made it easier for me not getting into a relationship. The relationship there was was only sexual.
So it was indeed merely a hobby for me, i had sex with t-girls, sometimes with an escort and sometimes with someone i met in a bar.
That was cool. I knew i guy that fell in love with a t-girl who worked in the RLD. Thank god that girl (it was Paloma) was very honest to him and already said she was involved with someone. He was devastated but he wasn't used as a walking atm.
Recently a guy fell in love with an Indonesian t-girl who wasn't an escort, she just worked in a gay bar. She didn't love him back and as a result she was murdered by this guy.He beat her to death. Police had a hard time finding out what she was, man or woman because he broke almost every bone in her body and her face was pulp, no teeth and her eyes were gone. He tried to convince a judge that he was being raped by her and it was self defense but she was 5 ft 2 and he 6 ft 5 and a kickboxer so this judge didn't fell for that story.
Three months ago a guy fell in love with a t-girl, she told him gently no because she was involved. The guy murdered her boyfriend and the boyfriend's parents.
Two years ago a guy fell in love with a t-girl, she loved him too but after a year she dumped him. He was broke, she took al his money, nothing left anymore.
I listen to this tragic and horrible storys and shook my head. Man how can anyone do such stupid things, have sex with these girls and leave.

But now i met a working t-girl. She works in the RLD in the daytime till 7 pm. I am sure that i am in love with her. She is nice, very beautiful, smart, smells gorgeous and fun to be around. She loves me too.
What can i do?? Use my head and forget her?? I tried but i can't.
She is constantly on my mind. Damn i love her.
How can this happen to me??
WHAT MUST I DO??????

[foolish99]

So -- since I started this thread with my question I thought I might post an update on my situation.

Lots of back and forth about the lying thing, etc. Finally, she told me that she lied just because she really like me, the other guy was just business and she did not really like him, I was the only special guy in her life, etc. But of course, she needed to keep seeing him because he was doing great things for her, he is good guy, etc.

NOt sure whether I believe her or not. Big part of me wants to believe her of course. But big part says I am idiot.

Bottom line --- I cannot really handle chance I might be shmuck still getting lies. It is killing me but I am separating myself from the situation.

Recommendation to others --- if you approach this sort of relationship, do so with an 'open mind' to idea that it will always be an 'open' relationship, that her notions of commitment may be totally different than yours, and that she is not looking for a shining knight to 'rescue' her from her life. If you can keep from getting too emotionally involved or maintaining the expectation that she will ever be exclusively or even particularly devoted to you, then I suppose it could be fun.

I think that I am still too nieve to deal with this type of relationship. Perhaps I just need more 'seasoning'

[Phat]

Son, you are being played, give it up

[foolish99]

agree

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