ChristianXXX & RallyCola are hypocritical pieces of shit.

[TSPornFan]

I normally don't make these types of threads. I don't have the best relationships with many members at this forum for having different opinions. It does not matter to me if someone dislikes me for having different opinions. I have not done anything wrong to them for sharing my opinions.

Over the past few months I have received abusive gay bashing from RallyCola and recently from ChristianXXX. They have accused me of being a homosexual for being a trans attracted man. Their statements are ignorant and very hypocritical.

ChristianXXX should know better than anyone to call a many gay for being trans attracted. He is the face for male performers in the TS porn industry. He has fucked more transwomen, then the average man.

What is even more ridiclous is that they have also accused me of being homosexual for saying that chemstiry between the female and male in a scene is important. Anyone who has watched porn knows that the male performer is important to a scene's success. If the girl is NOT into the guy, then scene is going to be lackluster compared to a scene with the girl into the guy. That's common sense. Certain guys are able to bring out more from a girl. A few years ago I watched a very old Brazzers scene from the early days. It was a threesome scene with two girls and a guy. The guy was having hard on problems throughout the scene and the girls were barely able to work with him. There is an unedited moment in the scene which shows the director telling the girls to finish it quickly and trying comfort them.

It is a damn shame that staff is quick to protect girls. The girls do deserve protection from jackasses who say very disrespectful and untactful comments to them. However, this should also apply to us trans attracted men. I cannot speak for everyone. I do know that some people like myself identity ourselves as STRAIGHT. It is disrespectful to call any trans attracted man gay when he identifies himself as straight. Calling us gay is also calling trangender women men. If you think a man is gay for liking transwomen then you are also saying that transwomen are men. Not only are they disrespecting trans attracted men, but they are also insulting transwomen.

[RallyCola]

so...let me get this STRAIGHT...I am not allowed to have an opinion that you are in fact a bi or gay man? i am not denying your attraction to transwomen..i'll concede that point. i am simply of the opinion that you are a closeted homosexual who also likes men and that you are denying yourself the opportunity at happiness in life. that is my opinion based on the sum of your posts. for you to deny me my opinion simply because you do not agree with me goes against everything you rail about here and accuse others of. that, my boy, is hypocritical on your part.

[RallyCola]

oh and if pointing out the fact that i think you are a gay men is gay bashing...you really have no idea of what some people go through when they have alternative lifestyles. i have never ridiculed you for your orientation or said anything negative about gay people. i just know that you are one of them.

[TSPornFan]

so...let me get this STRAIGHT...I am not allowed to have an opinion that you are in fact a bi or gay man? i am not denying your attraction to transwomen..i'll concede that point. i am simply of the opinion that you are a closeted homosexual who also likes men and that you are denying yourself the opportunity at happiness in life. that is my opinion based on the sum of your posts. for you to deny me my opinion simply because you do not agree with me goes against everything you rail about here and accuse others of. that, my boy, is hypocritical on your part.

You are calling me a closet homosexual for liking trans women. That's what you are saying.

You cannot defined a person's sexuality. A person defines his or her sexuality. If I was being dishonest to you then I would understand where you were coming from. However, I have been honest about my sexuality.

Everyone on this board knows that I am interested in the most feminine Ts pornstars such as Kimber James, Sarina Valentina, Jessica Fox, etc. If I was interested in crossdressers like some people here then you would have a point. However, I am not into crossdressers.

By your own words you have said that transwomen are men. That's very disgusting especially at this forum.

[TSPornFan]

oh and if pointing out the fact that i think you are a gay men is gay bashing...you really have no idea of what some people go through when they have alternative lifestyles. i have never ridiculed you for your orientation or said anything negative about gay people. i just know that you are one of them.

That's bullshit. It is very ridiculing to publicly lie about a person's sexual orientation. You have used it as an attack to insult me and every trans attracted man who identifies as straight.

[Jericho]

You are calling me a closet homosexual for liking trans women.


Yeah...Don't let him get away with that...Come out of the closet...That'll show him! :ignore:

[RallyCola]

frankiboi...i cannot help how you feel.

foremost, i have ROUTINELY used the same argument that calling a man that is attracted to transwomen, gay, means you are defaming the transwoman he desires...please review 100s of posts where i have said that very thing....so i'll forgive you for trying to prove a point with an opinion that i have espoused.

let us be clear...because it appears to did not understand my point above.

I WILL CONCEDE THAT YOU LIKE TRANSWOMEN. I AM NOT DENYING THAT. My opinion is that you are gay and like men as well. That is all. It is an opinion. Take it for whatever you find it to be worth. If you would like to know how I formulated that opinion or any other opinion, I'll be happy to share...here or via PM. I suspect that this thread will run its course rather quickly.

Right or wrong, when you say you are not gay, that is no different to me than Lebron claiming he is not a basketball player or Bill Gates claiming he doesn't know what Windows is. All three are equally ridiculous statements, in my opinion.

now please note...i've specifically said nothing about your opinion. Your opinion is that i'm a hypocritical piece of shit. Whether I disagree with you are not is irrelevant because you are entitled to your opinion. i won't presume on our friendship so much as to tell you what your opinion of who i am should be.

[Nikka]

in before the lock

[TSPornFan]

frankiboi...i cannot help how you feel.

foremost, i have ROUTINELY used the same argument that calling a man that is attracted to transwomen, gay, means you are defaming the transwoman he desires...please review 100s of posts where i have said that very thing....so i'll forgive you for trying to prove a point with an opinion that i have espoused.

let us be clear...because it appears to did not understand my point above.

I WILL CONCEDE THAT YOU LIKE TRANSWOMEN. I AM NOT DENYING THAT. My opinion is that you are gay and like men as well. That is all. It is an opinion. Take it for whatever you find it to be worth. If you would like to know how I formulated that opinion or any other opinion, I'll be happy to share...here or via PM. I suspect that this thread will run its course rather quickly.

Right or wrong, when you say you are not gay, that is no different to me than Lebron claiming he is not a basketball player or Bill Gates claiming he doesn't know what Windows is. All three are equally ridiculous statements, in my opinion.


That's the most manipulative and ridiculous statement that I have ever read at this forum. Saying that I am not gay is clearly different than saying Lebron is not a basketball player. You have ZERO evidence to prove your false claims about my sexuality. Everyone has proof that Lebron is a basketball player because he a NBA Champion.

Furthermore, you are not denying my attraction. I completely understand that point so we both agree on it. However, you are using my attraction towards TS woman to accuse me of being a homosexual. You do NOT have any proof or evidence of me being a homosexual.

[RallyCola]

i see how you lopped off the end part of my post in your quote. no worries...you're gay and i'm a hypocritcal piece of shit. you have no evidence other than the quality of my posts and opinions...which is the same evidence i have of your sexuality.

i really see no point in continuing to debate something that i believe to be true despite your emphatic denial. its a moot point isn't it. just as you stubbornly won't admit you are gay, i stubbornly won't admit you aren't gay. we are at an impasse that you need to get over because my opinion should really not matter do you.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Why should his sexuality matter to you at all?

Bullying someone over their sexuality is hypocritical especially when you take part in the trans-niche.

[SheWantsTheD]

OP, they are just looking to get a rise out of you is all. Nobody cares who is or isn't gay. I think its safe to assume that the majority of people who visit these types of sites are open minded about these things.
Even if you identify as straight I would say that you still have a reserved spot in the LGBT community just by association. Whether or not you attend, the show will go on.

[RallyCola]

Kelly...i'm not bullying. bullying would imply that i in some way criticized gay people. bullying would also imply that i wanted him to think that I thought little of him for being gay. i simply have an opinion that he is gay. i'm entitled to that. he is the one that is upset that i think he is gay. please understand that a person's sexuality, to me, is no different than their blood type, hair color or stance on paper vs. plastic. it is just part of who they are and is neither good nor bad. being gay is no better or worse than being straight.

i think alot of people other than franki are closeted gay people. tom cruise, oprah, my lab mate mike who is 38 years old, never had a girlfriend that i know of in the 7 years i've known him, and doesn't seem to look at pretty girls, etc.

now, the extension of my opinion, that is that i truly believe that if franki put as much effort into his personal life as he does trans-porn fanaticism, he would not be here as much and be off having wild and torrid sexcapades, perhaps is an unfair assessment. maybe franklin has fucked more people than christian. maybe franklin is a terrible looking lad with scoliosis. maybe he is an agoraphobic shut-in. maybe he is a billionaire married to a hot genetic girl and he doesn't work and is afforded a lifestyle of surfing for porn and trolling message boards. all of that is truly irrelevant because it is an extension of a simple opinion that he chooses to invest in.

if franklin started to call me gay or continues to call me a hypocritical piece of shit, he can do that to all his hearts content because i don't care what he thinks of me. it is clear he may care a bit too much what i think of him.

[TSPornFan]

Kelly...i'm not bullying. bullying would imply that i in some way criticized gay people. bullying would also imply that i wanted him to think that I thought little of him for being gay. i simply have an opinion that he is gay. i'm entitled to that. he is the one that is upset that i think he is gay. please understand that a person's sexuality, to me, is no different than their blood type, hair color or stance on paper vs. plastic. it is just part of who they are and is neither good nor bad. being gay is no better or worse than being straight.


You are the one is obsess with me. You accuse me of being gay in almost every thread these days. I rarely speak to you and yet you always bud in with your false accusations. Apparently you do have a problem with gay people because you wouldn't mention it all of the time.

Why would anyone try to out someone without any malice? I know a person who is bisexual, and I have NEVER outed this individual. It is NOT my place to reveal a person's sexual orientation.



i think alot of people other than franki are closeted gay people. tom cruise, oprah, my lab mate mike who is 38 years old, never had a girlfriend that i know of in the 7 years i've known him, and doesn't seem to look at pretty girls, etc.
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I'm shaking my head. A person's lack of experience with the opposite sex does not reflect their sexuality. Plenty of women have told me that I am not bad looking. I dress and smell very well. However, I am not the type of black man that they want. I'm not a stereotypical black man and that is a turn off where I am from. I have never met a woman who found me attractive and that is out of my control. No one is to blame for my lack of sexual experience.

Some people may say my lack of experience with genetic women led to my attraction to transwomen. However, I was attracted to transwomen when I first saw a few very attractive transwomen on the Maury show.

I knew a guy in college who hated porn. He wouldn't even look at it and would run if you try to show it to him. However, he does love women. He appears to be more into CFNM situations because he loved seeing women in clothing. He hated sports, but would rather look at Sports Illustrated for the babes in bikinis than a Playboy with naked babes. That doesn't make him gay. His sexuality is different than mines in terms of fetishes and turn ons.

Your lab mate might actually look at pretty girls..........girls who are pretty to him. My best friend and me don't have the same taste in women. Jayden Jaymes is one of the finest women in porn to me, but she does nothing for my best friend. He thought she was average looking, and that's his opinion.

[Tapatio]

Franklin is funny.

He doesn't mean to be, and I don't think he sees it himself, but he's funny.

He put a lot of energy into this, though.

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

[nysprod]

Right or wrong, when you say you are not gay, that is no different to me than Lebron claiming he is not a basketball player or Bill Gates claiming he doesn't know what Windows is. All three are equally ridiculous statements, in my opinion.

If that's the case you're a bigger imbecile than I thought you were...everyone has seen Lebron play basketball, and everyone knows Bill Gates ran Microsoft...so what that has to do with you forming an opinion which is based on nothing you've seen or have any direct knowledge of, I have no idea (and neither will anyone else with two or more brain cells).

Franklyn has said he isn't gay and that should be enough for you, me, or anyone else...going forward with this absurd, twisted logic is simple bashing.

[flabbybody]

why would people visiting this site be interested in reading this bullshit ?

[giovanni_hotel]

Relax. I think they were just teasing you and not making a serious observation.

Man some dudes around here are sooooooo sensitive!!

[simonisthebest]

this rallycolla dude ,the same dude who enjoy watchin a transgirl fuckin a man :dead-1: is the one in denial..:pumped:

[EvaCassini]

I think I may be gay...

[livepersona]

Sorry man, I just had to.

[tao1kiku]

Popcorn, popcorn, get your popcorn. Candy coated peanuts, who wants some? Popcorn here get your popcorn!

[CoolAwesomeBXDude]

come on guys its not that serious its just the internet ....

[Yasmin Lee Fan]

I'm not into labels, but it would be hard to convince most people that any one who likes to suck dick is straight. I like women; I like Transsexuals; and I like guys [ just their cocks]. So, label me any way you want. I just love sex!

[Jamie French]

Self hating homosexuals are so late 90's. It's ok that you're gay franklin. Being gay doesn't even break the top 10 reasons people don't like you.

[maxpower]

I think I may be gay...


Nah, I don't think you are. Your girlfriend might be, though. :)

[maaarc]

Self hating homosexuals are so late 90's. It's ok that you're gay franklin. Being gay doesn't even break the top 10 reasons people don't like you.

LOL, you fucking rule Jamie :) I don't hate Franklin. I believe he's for the most part an amusing provocateur - court jester sorta persona - as for Christian he seems like a good dude. Rally, can be a bit smug and self absorbed in a pseudo intellectual kinda way - but, isn't he a professor or something? that's the way they roll - for the most part he's a great board member - I certainly don't see any of them as hypocritical pieces of shit:) like others have stated - it's just the interwebs for cryin out loud

[TS Evelyn Summers]

Cant we all just get along.....

[JenniferParisHusband]

Lame!

/I now claim this thread in the name of the Queen, declare that there shall be peace in the realm, and bouncing titties.

[nysprod]

We're all freaks anyway so what's the diff lol

[underdog6]

Nothing like watching a fag net fight. It's like watching Obama and bush jr fight. Both are retarded as hell but you can't look away.

[STARTUP999]

We're all freaks anyway so what's the diff lol

To paraphrase the Bard, "The Franklin doth protest too much, methink."

Franklin, please seriously think about what your putting so much energy into. This is a porn forum none of us know you in any meaningful way. Who cares what any of us think about you.

I don't contribute to HU anywhere near as much as you, and I have called a "fag, size queen, gay, a dumb F and a White Knight. I have never responded at all much less called anyone out because....I don't give a crap what people think of me. (The size queen part is actually true, now that I think about it).

I suggest you consider adopting a similar attitude, for your sake. This porn stuff can be addictive maybe you should take a step back and explore some other interests, so you can keep this in perspective.

Someone will probably suggest I am White Knighting to get close to you... I'll just laugh.

[jamesedwards]

So let me ask this, cause it's confusing as fuck!

Are you saying he is a Homosexual because he likes TGirls and men that aren't TGirls? Or are you saying he's a homo because he likes TGirls only?



i see how you lopped off the end part of my post in your quote. no worries...you're gay and i'm a hypocritcal piece of shit. you have no evidence other than the quality of my posts and opinions...which is the same evidence i have of your sexuality.

i really see no point in continuing to debate something that i believe to be true despite your emphatic denial. its a moot point isn't it. just as you stubbornly won't admit you are gay, i stubbornly won't admit you aren't gay. we are at an impasse that you need to get over because my opinion should really not matter do you.

[RobynBlakeTS]

Can people please cut out this bullshit homophobia.

So sick to death of reading about guys on here having to explain how they are not gay like their is something wrong with being gay. Also people calling other people gay and other offensive homosexual insult names like their is something wrong with being gay that it can be used as insult.

So sad to see on here where you would expect their to be more openness and liberal ideas that their is so much homophobia and even transphobia.

People like what people like, end of it. Cut the shit out and grow up.

[Prospero]

This wehole thread is bullshit. Honestly so much energy fighting over nothing. Franklin or whatevr your name is. Grow up mate. Your posts suggest a pathetic whiner.

Just enjoy what you enjoy and ignore the slings and arrows of outrageous misinformation.

[Jamie French]

You forgot the part where it's incredibly fun to watch someone squirm when you call them gay.

I'm the faggiest fag queer gay tranny fairy fag I know... I reserve the right to entertain myself at the expense of the emotionally unintelligent. It's one of the perks of existing.

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QUOTE: Can people please cut out this bullshit homophobia.

So sick to death of reading about guys on here having to explain how they are not gay like their is something wrong with being gay. Also people calling other people gay and other offensive homosexual insult names like their is something wrong with being gay that it can be used as insult.

So sad to see on here where you would expect their to be more openness and liberal ideas that their is so much homophobia and even transphobia.

People like what people like, end of it. Cut the shit out and grow up.

[SheWantsTheD]

To paraphrase the Bard, "The Franklin doth protest too much, methink."

Franklin, please seriously think about what your putting so much energy into. This is a porn forum none of us know you in any meaningful way. Who cares what any of us think about you.

I don't contribute to HU anywhere near as much as you, and I have called a "fag, size queen, gay, a dumb F and a White Knight. I have never responded at all much less called anyone out because....I don't give a crap what people think of me. (The size queen part is actually true, now that I think about it).

I suggest you consider adopting a similar attitude, for your sake. This porn stuff can be addictive maybe you should take a step back and explore some other interests, so you can keep this in perspective.

Someone will probably suggest I am White Knighting to get close to you... I'll just laugh.
White Knight! I'm denouncing you to gain favour with Franklin!

http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx290/SrGrvsaLot/civ5lp615.jpg

[STARTUP999]

"White Knight! I'm denouncing you to gain favour with Franklin!"

SheWants.. I actually did laugh, excellent! First first like is mine.

[livepersona]

The fact that anyone even has an HA account means they are at least 10% gay.

[broncofan]

The fact that anyone even has an HA account means they are at least 10% gay.
Or 20%. When I have gay thoughts I just masturbate and they go away for about six hours. Rinse and repeat. I have 20 straight hours a day;.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

It sounds like some of you have to deal with your own inner homophobia and transphobia.

We are all on the same boat.

[EZWind]

We are all on the same boat.

Well, I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I know I'm not gay. Tho, technically speaking, I guess I'm bisexual.....whenever I want sex I have to buy it.
.....well, shit...I see now how that joke only really works when it's spoken not typed, so pretend you heard it w/ your ears instead of read it w/ your eyes

[jelqmaster]

We all love trans on this forums, trans are born male who change to be female, which means they were male in the first instance, which means they were born as a little boy, in most cases grown up from a little boy to a man, the same gender as us men, then change to become what they want to be, women.

sounds off putting when I describe ithe facts and process right? I'm happy to be called gay/bi if I love both women and trans.

And why is this Rallycola and Christian giving you such massive trouble, you could like i don't know, ignore them? Block them? Report them? is it PMs or threads insulting you? Are these guys mods so they avoid the backlash?

You two have had this feud before I even joined this site, most of the time when I read your fights it's pretty funny lol

[TSPornFan]

I have reported Rally on numerous occasions and staff doesn't care because they continue to harass me.

[scroller]

I WILL CONCEDE THAT YOU LIKE TRANSWOMEN. I AM NOT DENYING THAT. My opinion is that you are gay and like men as well. That is all.

That doesn't make any sense. That would be bi, not gay.

[jelqmaster]

No offense here, but TSPornFan sounds like a massive pussy and RallyCola seems a right closet case, I could say something about Christian but he's the lucky bastard that gets to bang all these beautiful trans, I wouldn't care what people thought if I was him lol

[bimale69]

Popcorn, popcorn, get your popcorn. Candy coated peanuts, who wants some? Popcorn here get your popcorn!

got any pretzels?

[tao1kiku]

Pretzels here ya go, three dollars, you want mustard too?

[jelqmaster]

Gimme some M&M's please, I like mine with NUTS.

[maxpower]

No offense here, but TSPornFan sounds like a massive pussy and RallyCola seems a right closet case


...says the guy obsessed with measuring cock. No offense.

[CoolAwesomeBXDude]

note christian hasnt even responded once on this thread. see it doesnt even phase him cuz he knows this is just the internet. shouldnt let that bother you

[TSPornFan]

note christian hasnt even responded once on this thread. see it doesnt even phase him cuz he knows this is just the internet. shouldnt let that bother you

I've got to disagree with you on this one. Christian is a male performer in TS porn and is held to a much higher standard than RallyCola. It is extremely hypocritical and disrespectful to the trans community. His statements saids he believes TS women are men. That's an insult to every TS porn in porn especially the transwomen that he has worked with.

If a presient said he wanted white people on Twitter, then everyone would be disgusted.

[nysprod]

There's no way Christian said that...probably you're misinterpreting something.

[broncofan]

Yeah, he's saying that because Christian said he's gay.... that he by implication called transsexuals men. Franklin, while I don't think anyone should be calling anyone else gay as an insult, you make it difficult for anyone to agree with you because you're such an ass.

People don't just object to your difference of opinion but also your assumption that people care about your opinion.

[christianxxx]

someone show me where I called anyone Gay ever.....seriously point it out to me please

[broncofan]

someone show me where I called anyone Gay ever.....seriously point it out to me please
Yeah sorry about that. I was only saying that was his reasoning from his initial post...I really haven't taken anything he's said seriously.

Edit: actually no I seemed to be taking that part of what he said at face value. So, my apologies for that.

[christianxxx]

i wrote this in response to Franklin crying about the male performers in scenes once again -

"the focus is on the girls....the males are secondary to the consumer....except for you of course"

and so by this statement, Franklin thinks I am calling him gay, and then he is extrapolating that I think TS girls are men because I think Franklin is gay. lol

can we all agree that Franklin needs heavy antipsychotic medication? lithium, haldol, or something along those lines? what a loony tune he is. and getting progressively worse.

[broncofan]

Yeah I went back and looked. The context is exactly what you said it was. Franklin was making a big deal over the male performers and you pointed out that to most consumers it doesn't matter. Then Franklin ran with that. Can't trust him to get anything right.

[tsparrow69]

I normally don't make these types of threads. I don't have the best relationships with many members at this forum for having different opinions. It does not matter to me if someone dislikes me for having different opinions. I have not done anything wrong to them for sharing my opinions.

Over the past few months I have received abusive gay bashing from RallyCola and recently from ChristianXXX. They have accused me of being a homosexual for being a trans attracted man. Their statements are ignorant and very hypocritical.

ChristianXXX should know better than anyone to call a many gay for being trans attracted. He is the face for male performers in the TS porn industry. He has fucked more transwomen, then the average man.

What is even more ridiclous is that they have also accused me of being homosexual for saying that chemstiry between the female and male in a scene is important. Anyone who has watched porn knows that the male performer is important to a scene's success. If the girl is NOT into the guy, then scene is going to be lackluster compared to a scene with the girl into the guy. That's common sense. Certain guys are able to bring out more from a girl. A few years ago I watched a very old Brazzers scene from the early days. It was a threesome scene with two girls and a guy. The guy was having hard on problems throughout the scene and the girls were barely able to work with him. There is an unedited moment in the scene which shows the director telling the girls to finish it quickly and trying comfort them.

It is a damn shame that staff is quick to protect girls. The girls do deserve protection from jackasses who say very disrespectful and untactful comments to them. However, this should also apply to us trans attracted men. I cannot speak for everyone. I do know that some people like myself identity ourselves as STRAIGHT. It is disrespectful to call any trans attracted man gay when he identifies himself as straight. Calling us gay is also calling trangender women men. If you think a man is gay for liking transwomen then you are also saying that transwomen are men. Not only are they disrespecting trans attracted men, but they are also insulting transwomen.

Curious, have you ever been a bottom for a TS Lady?

[fred41]

Anyone who has watched porn knows that the male performer is important to a scene's success. If the girl is NOT into the guy, then scene is going to be lackluster compared to a scene with the girl into the guy. That's common sense. Certain guys are able to bring out more from a girl.

I agree with this.
Some guys say that the male talent in the scene is practically invisible for them...fine. But Frank is right about this. A lot of Christian's (and a handful of other male actors) scenes are good because often it looks like some of the girls he performs with are really into it.

[mrtrebus]

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/eating/popcorn.gif

[dunkiex]

Geez, can't we all get along?

[nysprod]

I agree with this.
Some guys say that the male talent in the scene is practically invisible for them...fine. But Frank is right about this. A lot of Christian's (and a handful of other male actors) scenes are good because often it looks like some of the girls he performs with are really into it.

Christian's appeal to a large degree lies in the fact that he's living out every guy's fantasy.

[fred41]

Christian's appeal lies in the fact that he's living out every guy's fantasy.

Well yeah, but so what?...you can say that about a lot of porn actors...but that doesn't necessarily make them good at what they do. Unless what you're saying is that he's more relatable than others.

[nysprod]

Well yeah, but so what?...you can say that about a lot of porn actors...but that doesn't necessarily make them good at what they do. Unless what you're saying is that he's more relatable than others.

Of course Christian is very good at what he does...he's unique in that there's no male in straight porn who is as recognizable, who owns a genre, as he does.

[fred41]

Of course Christian is very good at what he does...he's unique in that there's no male in straight porn who is as recognizable, who owns a genre, as he does.

But I wasn't discussing that. I merely pointed out that the male talent, as Franklin stated, is in fact, important to a scene.

[broncofan]

I agree with this.
Some guys say that the male talent in the scene is practically invisible for them...fine. But Frank is right about this. A lot of Christian's (and a handful of other male actors) scenes are good because often it looks like some of the girls he performs with are really into it.
I sometimes won't watch a scene if I really find something annoying about the male talent. But generally I just don't want them to do anything that is distracting. I don't expect that I'm typical, but it's about 15% of the time they do something that breaks up the rhythm of the scene in some way, but otherwise I don't care that much.

[fred41]

I sometimes won't watch a scene if I really find something annoying about the male talent. But generally I just don't want them to do anything that is distracting. I don't expect that I'm typical, but it's about 15% of the time they do something that breaks up the rhythm of the scene in some way, but otherwise I don't care that much.

Things that are distracting to me ..are things like - the actor being way too swishy...or,as has been discussed before - actors that are extremely unattractive. Being hideous and swishy would be a one two death punch to me...I couldn't watch it...lol

[nysprod]

But I wasn't discussing that. I merely pointed out that the male talent, as Franklin stated, is in fact, important to a scene.

In that there needs to be a live dick present? At times, yes.

Franklyn has an extremely limited notion of what makes a good scene, i.e. the girl has to be "enjoying" it...tons of guys don't want see the girl "enjoy" it.

[fred41]

In that there needs to be a live dick present? At times, yes.

Franklyn has an extremely limited notion of what makes a good scene, i.e. the girl has to be "enjoying" it...tons of guys don't want see the girl "enjoy" it.

But I do...that's why I agree with him on this.
If I'm having sex with a girl, I would prefer that she enjoys it...so I prefer to watch a scene where the girl seems to be enjoying it also. It's a personal preference.

[nysprod]

But I do...that's why I agree with him on this.
If I'm having sex with a girl, I would prefer that she enjoys it...so I prefer to watch a scene where the girl seems to be enjoying it also. It's a personal preference.

It's not so much about preferences, if that's your preference, fine...Franklyn talks in absolutes, like his view is that a scene can't be "good" at all if the girl isn't "enjoying" it..."good" for him, ok, but not "good" at all for anyone else? Nonsense.

Bored is the killer in porn, not lack of enjoyment...there's a big difference.

[fred41]

It's not so much about preferences, if that's your preference, fine...Franklyn's view is that a scene can't be "good" at all if the girl isn't "enjoying" it..."good" for him, ok, but not "good" at all for anyone else? Nonsense.

Well...unfortunately for him, his whole sex life, at the moment, revolves entirely about porn. So he's always looking for more.
If they never filmed another porn scene again ever...there would still be enough for me out there to satisfy the urge.

I hope for his sake, that changes one day. He's probably a little nuts...but not really a bad person.

[fred41]

To me..Bored is the killer in porn, not lack of enjoyment...there's a big difference....fixed it
otherwise your statement is also an absolute.

[nysprod]

Well...unfortunately for him, his whole sex life, at the moment, revolves entirely about porn. So he's always looking for more.
If they never filmed another porn scene again ever...there would still be enough for me out there to satisfy the urge.

I hope for his sake, that changes one day. He's probably a little nuts...but not really a bad person.

I never said Franklyn is a bad person and in fact I don't think he is...that being said, he keeps making the same mistake over and over, i.e. believing that what's "good" for him about porn is what makes it "good" for everyone else.

[broncofan]

..tons of guys don't want see the girl "enjoy" it.
Yeah I am not like that and don't understand it but I know there are people who for some reason don't want to see the girl enjoy it. I kind of agree with nysprod that even when I agree with Franklin I don't agree with his rigidness...this view that he has a monopoly on what's good in porn.

So maybe it sounded mean to say he thinks people care about his view..what I mean is he thinks people put extra stock in his view...care about his view more than any other guy with an opinion because he holds his opinions so strongly.

[fred41]

I never said Franklyn is a bad person and in fact I don't think he is...that being said, he keeps making the same mistake over and over, i.e. believing that what's "good" for him about porn is what makes it "good" for everyone else.


Yeah I am not like that and don't understand it but I know there are people who for some reason don't want to see the girl enjoy it. I kind of agree with nysprod that even when I agree with Franklin I don't agree with his rigidness...this view that he has a monopoly on what's good in porn.

So maybe it sounded mean to say he thinks people care about his view..what I mean is he thinks people put extra stock in his view...care about his view more than any other guy with an opinion because he holds his opinions so strongly.

agreed.

[jelqmaster]

...says the guy obsessed with measuring cock. No offense.

None taken and glad you've noticed, but:

1. Does that make me a pussy that cries online?

2. Does that make me a closet case?

Refer back to an older post of mine, call me gay because I don't care lol!

TSPornFan has himself WAY to invested in this site, and RallyCola gets off on calling Franklin gay/homo when there has to be some kind of interest in that genre if you're into T-Girls, this is called denial.

Where have the two in question gone?

[TSPornFan]

There's no way Christian said that...probably you're misinterpreting something.

I'm not misinterpreting what he said. Take a look again.


the focus is on the girls....the males are secondary to the consumer....except for you of course

He said my focus is on the men in the scenes. That's saying that I am gay or have sexual desires for men because the focus is on men instead of women. People's focus in the scenes is on the people that turn them on.


Yeah I went back and looked. The context is exactly what you said it was. Franklin was making a big deal over the male performers and you pointed out that to most consumers it doesn't matter. Then Franklin ran with that. Can't trust him to get anything right.

You are a manipulative liar. The topic was NOT about male performers. The topic was about "mistakes" in TS porn. I mention there are too many girls with way too many solo scenes and little hardcore content. My statement had NOTHING to do with men in TS porn. Christian was the person who mention male performers in scenes. Christian was the ONLY person besides RallyCola mentioning male performers.

[broncofan]

He said my focus is on the men in the scenes. That's saying that I am gay or have sexual desires for men. People's focus in the scenes is on the people that turn them on.
No. He said the males aren't secondary to you. That means you think who they are and how they perform is as important to you as the girls. That doesn't make you gay.

[broncofan]

No. He said the males aren't secondary to you. That means you think who they are and how they perform is as important to you as the girls. That doesn't make you gay.
So he wasn't saying you are attracted to the males, just pickier about them.

But even if we assumed hypothetically that he said you were attracted to the men and were gay on account of that, it would not make the ts' men. Your whole line of attack is off base, because it depends on him arguing you're gay for liking ts'. Nothing he said was in that ballpark.

[TSPornFan]

You are a manipulative liar. The topic was NOT about male performers. The topic was about "mistakes" in TS porn. I mention there are too many girls with way too many solo scenes and little hardcore content. My statement had NOTHING to do with men in TS porn. Christian was the person who mention male performers in scenes. Christian was the ONLY person besides RallyCola mentioning male performers.


No. He said the males aren't secondary to you. That means you think who they are and how they perform is as important to you as the girls. That doesn't make you gay.

I suggest you read the edited part of the post directed towards you.

The topic was NOT about men in porn at all. Christian and you are lying to save his face. A person does NOT randomly say "you focus men instead of women". His comments were out of the blue and bought nothing to the conversation but a fight. Have you ever sit down with a group of friends while talking about sex and someone randomly starts saying you focus on people that you're not attracted to?

[Jericho]

That doesn't make you gay.


No, that doesn't! :hide-1:

[Jamie French]

Franklin's gay.

There. After all these years, I've finally said it.

That was incredibly brave of me. I just hope my family takes it as well as ya'll have.

Thanks for your support.

[jelqmaster]

Here's your chance Franklin, there are members here abusing you, report them if they're that much of problem!

Or just IGNORE THEM.

One last suggestion, make a new profile?

[STARTUP999]

Franklin's gay.

There. After all these years, I've finally said it.

That was incredibly brave of me. I just hope my family takes it as well as ya'll have.

Thanks for your support.


Jamie, I have always respected and admired your brutal and sometimes outrageous candor even when I disagree. But this crosses the line! I am shocked ...shocked!!! that in spite of his shrill verbose denials you could write Franklin is ...you know the G word!

I intended to remove your photos (temporarily) from my masturbatory rotation in protest. I even started organizing a "masturbation strike" on this very thread to show solidarity for Franklin and give him even more attention that he seems to so desperately crave.

In preperation for my campaign I clicked on the pre- implant pics of you smoking cloves and the more recent ones of you oiled up...
I just couldn't your too fine. I am still masturbating to your photos but I am doing it while I type this one handed with short angry strokes, and NO LUBE! just to show you how upset I am. So there!

[BBaggins06]

I normally don't make these types of threads.

That's a bigger lie than any of the ones that married_chasersstayaway ever told before they got banned. And funnier ...

[SpoogeMonkey]

why are you being offended by being called gay? theres nothing wrong with being gay, straight, bi, trans, (and all the other letters - q - t etc).

If you think being called gay is derogatory then its you sir who has the issue because you see it as an offensive meme. Its not, I couldn't give a monkeys ballsac if someone called me gay, it doesn't offend me.

Grow some balls you cunt.. (see what I did there.. )

[nysprod]

Franklin's gay. Thanks for your support.

I'm surprised at Jamie's correct use of punctuation (the apostrophe in "Franklyn's gay")...some transgender girls have really come a long way lol.

[jelqmaster]

I'm surprised at Jamie's correct use of punctuation (the apostrophe in "Franklyn's gay")...some transgender girls have really come a long way lol.

Auto Correct lol.

[bimale69]

Franklin's gay.

There. After all these years, I've finally said it.

That was incredibly brave of me. I just hope my family takes it as well as ya'll have.

Thanks for your support.

Maybe so, but I doubt if Franklin even has the 'nads to admit it.

[kingaddictx]

This thread is bonkers. WTF happen to live and let live?

TSpornFan here some advise, do your thing.

If other people wanna waste their time debating your sexual orientation, thats their time to waste not yours. I'm sure that's alot u could have gotten done, while wasting time on this thread. Let them have the headache and just enjoy yourself.

[CORVETTEDUDE]

Drama queens!!!!

[jelqmaster]

This thread is bonkers. WTF happen to live and let live?

TSpornFan here some advise, do your thing.

If other people wanna waste their time debating your sexual orientation, thats their time to waste not yours. I'm sure that's alot u could have gotten done, while wasting time on this thread. Let them have the headache and just enjoy yourself.

Everyone in this room is a queer.