50 Easy Questions to Ask Any Republican...

[chefmike]

50 Easy Questions to Ask Any Republican....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-j-elisberg/50-easy-questions-to-ask-_b_24815.html

LMAO...will one of you repugs enlighten us...please... :roll:

Anyone can ask tough, intricate, confrontational questions. But all that ever does is start an argument, and it gets people nowhere. On the other hand, these are...well, easy. These are friendly questions. These are questions that allow another person to actually explain their thoughts, and explain fully. And to do so in as comfortable, as simple a way as possible.

Without feeling attacked. Without feeling pressure. Without feeling no one cares what they have to say. Friendly. Easy.

Print them out, carry them around in your pocket, and the next time someone begins quoting from a Republican talking points memo, take the list out and ask.



1. What are the Top Seven best things that the Bush Administration has done?

2. Is the Iraq War is going well?

3. After three years thus far, when do you think Iraq might be able to "stand up" so that America can "stand down"?

4. For his part in the event, how would you rate the job the President did protecting New Orleans from devastation?

5. How do you think the rebuilding of New Orleans is going?

6. When Dick Cheney and the oil company and energy executives met in private to plan America's energy policy, how much of their goal was to benefit consumers?

7. Do you believe in the President's call for an Era of Personal Responsibility?

8. Since Republicans control the White House, Senate and House of Representatives, how personally responsible are they for conditions in America today?

9. Why do you think they haven't been able to find anyone who can verify that George Bush ever showed up for National Guard duty in Alabama?

10. Would you want Donald Rumsfeld to plan your daughter's wedding?

11. Are you aware that no government in the history of civilization, other than the Bush Administration, has lowered taxes during a war?

12. Are you married?

13. Do you personally feel threatened by gay marriage?

14. Since getting elected, do you think the President has been more a uniter or a divider?

15. How do you explain the President's approval rating going from a high of 90% to the current mid-30%?

16. Do you like the government collecting personal data on you without a warrant?

17. How much money do you have in your bank account, stocks and investments?

18. What's your partner's favorite sex position?

19. If you have nothing to hide, why aren't you answering?

20. Should we build a wall along the Mexican border?

21. Why isn't anyone building a wall along the Canadian border?

22. Does that terrorist gang arrested in Canada count as a threat?

23. If you shot someone in the face while drinking, how fast would the police show up to arrest you?

24. If Donald Rumsfeld had planned your daughter's wedding three years ago, would the guests still be there?

25. Even if no laws are broken, do you think it's okay to reveal the name of a covert agent?

26. During your lifetime, approximately how often have you changed your mind?

27. Why shouldn't people dismiss you as a flip-flopper?

28. Where do you think the Weapons of Mass Destruction might be?

29. Where do you think Osama bin Laden might be?

30. Is it fiscally responsible to cut taxes, increase spending and create a $9 trillion federal debt?

31. Are you glad liberals passed such programs as Social Security, Medicare, the Civil Rights Act, women's suffrage, federal deposit insurance, unemployment compensation, rural electrification, child labor laws, minimum wages and the 40-hour work week?

32. What are the Top Ten best things that conservatives have given to America?

33. If you were on life support, would you want a doctor you'd never met making a diagnosis about you via remote television?

34. Do you think man-made greenhouse gases have anything at all to do with depleting the ozone layer?

35. If Donald Rumsfeld had planned your daughter's wedding three years ago, and guests were still there, how many factions would they now be split into?

36. How good is it that the terrorist Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi was killed?

37. Are you aware that in 2002 the Pentagon knew where al-Zarqawi was and presented three separate plans to kill him, but the Administration refused to act each time?

38. Is George W. Bush the kind of guy you'd want to sit down and have a beer with?

39. When he started talking about being a Born Again Christian, would you want to stay or leave?

40. Is Ray Romano the kind of guy you'd want to sit down and have a beer with?

41. Would you want him to be President?

42. Does the Administration have an environmental policy that benefits the environment?

43. Since George Bush campaigned for President strongly against nation building, in what ways are our actions in Iraq not nation building?

44. What's the maximum amount of time you'd want to spend alone with Dick Cheney?

45. After dismissing Saddam Hussein's old Iraqi army, was it a good idea to let them keep their rifles?

46. Would a policy that allows torture be something that makes you proud as an American?

47. Has the Mission been Accomplished?

48. Do you feel comforted that Dick Cheney is a heartbeat away from being President?

49. If Donald Rumsfeld had planned your daughter's wedding, and guests started fighting and were killed, would you expect to be allowed to view the caskets when they were returned home?

50. How glad do you think George Bush is that he's no longer active in the National Guard?

[Jamie Michelle]

50 Easy Questions to Ask Any Republican....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-j-elisberg/50-easy-questions-to-ask-_b_24815.html

LMAO...will one of you repugs enlighten us...please... :roll:

Anyone can ask tough, intricate, confrontational questions. But all that ever does is start an argument, and it gets people nowhere. On the other hand, these are...well, easy. These are friendly questions. These are questions that allow another person to actually explain their thoughts, and explain fully. And to do so in as comfortable, as simple a way as possible.

Without feeling attacked. Without feeling pressure. Without feeling no one cares what they have to say. Friendly. Easy.

Print them out, carry them around in your pocket, and the next time someone begins quoting from a Republican talking points memo, take the list out and ask.

1. What are the Top Seven best things that the Bush Administration has done?

To show us the hubristic face of naked power, so that a few intelligent people may wake up.

This counts for all seven places in your question.



2. Is the Iraq War is going well?


Yes. It is going exactly as planned. The plan all along was to create an unending war in order to break up the country of Iraq and in order to provide a pretext to stay there indefinitely. Read the PNAC document.



3. After three years thus far, when do you think Iraq might be able to "stand up" so that America can "stand down"?


Never. That was never the plan. Iraq cannot remain in U.S. hands forever. Eventually it will be handed over to the U.N.



4. For his part in the event, how would you rate the job the President did protecting New Orleans from devastation?


FEMA did their job absolutely wonderfully. They cut communications lines, they blocked water, food and medicines from getting to people. They blocked private companies and foreign countries from delivering aid. They confiscated peaceful people's guns. They intentionally made the situation as bad as they could possibly make it. It would be no exaggeration to say that New Orleans would have been better off had no branch of government taken any part in it.

So now, because of FEMA's intentionally "bad job," they will get more funding, power and control in order to solve this "problem."

Isn't that wonderful how that works? When you or me do a bad job, we get fired. But when the U.S. government does a "bad job" it gets ever more funding, power and control.

Is that by mistake? You can bet your life that it isn't.



5. How do you think the rebuilding of New Orleans is going?


Ask the Bush-connected Halliburton, which got no-bid contracts in order to "rebuild" it, using illegal foreign Mexican workers which they scammed by not even paying them for their work. (When you work for cutthroats, expect your throat to be cut.)



6. When Dick Cheney and the oil company and energy executives met in private to plan America's energy policy, how much of their goal was to benefit consumers?


None. Unless by "consumers" you mean to say their own consumption. For more on this, see the below page by me:

"The 'Peak Oil' Scam," December 5, 2005:

http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54&mforum=libertyandtruth



7. Do you believe in the President's call for an Era of Personal Responsibility?


You mean like how his wife, Laura Bush, nee Welch, on November 6, 1963 killed her boyfriend Michael Douglas? The two lovers were in separate cars, but she ran into her own boyfriend, killing him quite dead.

I wonder if Mr. Douglas had slapped her the night before. If he had, then apparently that was a strategic mistake.

While I am quite enjoying these questions, there are so many of them that I will have to put the rest off for later. That is assuming that I even get to the rest, which although I am loving them, I may have other things to attend to.



8. Since Republicans control the White House, Senate and House of Representatives, how personally responsible are they for conditions in America today?

9. Why do you think they haven't been able to find anyone who can verify that George Bush ever showed up for National Guard duty in Alabama?

10. Would you want Donald Rumsfeld to plan your daughter's wedding?

11. Are you aware that no government in the history of civilization, other than the Bush Administration, has lowered taxes during a war?

12. Are you married?

13. Do you personally feel threatened by gay marriage?

14. Since getting elected, do you think the President has been more a uniter or a divider?

15. How do you explain the President's approval rating going from a high of 90% to the current mid-30%?

16. Do you like the government collecting personal data on you without a warrant?

17. How much money do you have in your bank account, stocks and investments?

18. What's your partner's favorite sex position?

19. If you have nothing to hide, why aren't you answering?

20. Should we build a wall along the Mexican border?

21. Why isn't anyone building a wall along the Canadian border?

22. Does that terrorist gang arrested in Canada count as a threat?

23. If you shot someone in the face while drinking, how fast would the police show up to arrest you?

24. If Donald Rumsfeld had planned your daughter's wedding three years ago, would the guests still be there?

25. Even if no laws are broken, do you think it's okay to reveal the name of a covert agent?

26. During your lifetime, approximately how often have you changed your mind?

27. Why shouldn't people dismiss you as a flip-flopper?

28. Where do you think the Weapons of Mass Destruction might be?

29. Where do you think Osama bin Laden might be?

30. Is it fiscally responsible to cut taxes, increase spending and create a $9 trillion federal debt?

31. Are you glad liberals passed such programs as Social Security, Medicare, the Civil Rights Act, women's suffrage, federal deposit insurance, unemployment compensation, rural electrification, child labor laws, minimum wages and the 40-hour work week?

32. What are the Top Ten best things that conservatives have given to America?

33. If you were on life support, would you want a doctor you'd never met making a diagnosis about you via remote television?

34. Do you think man-made greenhouse gases have anything at all to do with depleting the ozone layer?

35. If Donald Rumsfeld had planned your daughter's wedding three years ago, and guests were still there, how many factions would they now be split into?

36. How good is it that the terrorist Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi was killed?

37. Are you aware that in 2002 the Pentagon knew where al-Zarqawi was and presented three separate plans to kill him, but the Administration refused to act each time?

38. Is George W. Bush the kind of guy you'd want to sit down and have a beer with?

39. When he started talking about being a Born Again Christian, would you want to stay or leave?

40. Is Ray Romano the kind of guy you'd want to sit down and have a beer with?

41. Would you want him to be President?

42. Does the Administration have an environmental policy that benefits the environment?

43. Since George Bush campaigned for President strongly against nation building, in what ways are our actions in Iraq not nation building?

44. What's the maximum amount of time you'd want to spend alone with Dick Cheney?

45. After dismissing Saddam Hussein's old Iraqi army, was it a good idea to let them keep their rifles?

46. Would a policy that allows torture be something that makes you proud as an American?

47. Has the Mission been Accomplished?

48. Do you feel comforted that Dick Cheney is a heartbeat away from being President?

49. If Donald Rumsfeld had planned your daughter's wedding, and guests started fighting and were killed, would you expect to be allowed to view the caskets when they were returned home?

50. How glad do you think George Bush is that he's no longer active in the National Guard?

[Jamie Michelle]

So, does no one else want to tackle these questions?

[BeardedOne]

So, does no one else want to tackle these questions?

Tackling a fullback is one thing.

Knocking over a one-legged drunk is another. :lol:

[Vicki Richter]

#4 and #5 - As bad as it sounds, I think there should be serious consideration before rebuilding New Orleans at all. The worst hit people were living on known flood plains. You obviously would not want to build there again... Another bad hurricane could easily repeat despite any reinforced levies etc. Also, there was nothing the President could have done to protect New Orleans from devastation. The help could have been better in the aftermath, but that is about it. New Orleans existed through generations of both Republican and Democrat Presidents who also did nothing to "prevent the devastation".

#13 - The statistics show that people in the communities against gay marriage are bipartisan. In some states there was even sub 20% votes in favor of gay marriage. Obviously that isn't because democrats aren't going to the polls.

#21 - Getting in and out of Canada is actually infinitely more challenging in many respects than getting in and out of Mexico - particularly if you use a standard border station. They actually require a birth certificate or passport just to cross and come back vs a legal drivers license along the Mexico border.

#16 - Sure. As long as I'm not breaking any laws that isn't a big deal right? Have you never seen the census? How much personal data is required by law? I received mine and it is outrageous. This is a bi-partisan legal requirement on the population. It asks name, age, address, income, family info, etc etc... It is really extensive and also a privacy violation. But anyway, if it came down to me letting the government listen to my phone calls and stopping terrorists from blowing up New Yoirk, I would take that deal.

#18 & #19 - Again bipartisan... I could ask a lot of democrats that question and get the same "that's none of your business answer". Just because you are democrat doesn't make you a swinger who is totally open minded about talking about how you fuck your wife/partner.

#31 - Nobody should be glad about social security right now. It was a flawed program without built in protections to secure it's future. The fact that many of us will get nothing while contributing subtatial $ to it is a travesty. Some of the very things that the liberals have done have resulted in American companies outsourcing to cheaper labor off shore. The bottom line is going to outweigh how we treat our population every time. Unfortunately, by creating these programs, we have often created situations which it is almost impossible to compete. Look at American cars vs foreign and how many plants are still located in the USA.

#29 - Clinton couldn't find Osama either. Bipartisan problem. There are democrats and republicans in the military looking for dude.

#32 - What are the top 10 things that you've (you personally) given to America? Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are conservative Republicans and they are the biggest philanthropists in the history of the world. None of the piss poor Democrats are out there giving 50 billion dollars to fight HIV, cure other diseases, feed the poor, etc. Instead they are on shemale message boards bitching about how Republicans never do anything good and sitting on the white house lawn with their trailers parked down the street with signs saying "fuck Bush". After all, their social security checks will be coming anyway so they don't need to be at work. See - stereotyping works both ways right?

Finally - as far as I know - nobody likes Dick Cheney but there are left wing whackos who most people don't like also. I mean if you pick the Satan of the republican party of course that would go that way... What about McCain? He's a good guy and even democrats like him. Just because you are democrat or republican doesn't make you a bad person or make you so far apart on all the issues. These questions just make you look uneducated as many of them have nothing to do with the Republican party.

I do hate that many Republicans come off as religious zealots and are so closed minded against pornography and telling people how to live. However, politics itself is a form of control. Giving 40% of our income to the IRS is not what our forefathers envisioned. Increasing this only further puts the government in control of our lives.

So debate me Chef. I haven't seen you manage or even attempt that yet. I'm actually wondering if you even care about all this stuff you post all the time or just try to rile people up with this nonsense. Are your other Democratic friends on this board embarassed about your ranting on here?

[specialk]

[quote="

So debate me Chef. I haven't seen you manage or even attempt that yet. I'm actually wondering if you even care about all this stuff you post all the time or just try to rile people up with this nonsense. Are your other Democratic friends on this board embarassed about your ranting on here?[/quote]


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[Jamie Michelle]

#4 and #5 - As bad as it sounds, I think there should be serious consideration before rebuilding New Orleans at all. The worst hit people were living on known flood plains. You obviously would not want to build there again... Another bad hurricane could easily repeat despite any reinforced levies etc. Also, there was nothing the President could have done to protect New Orleans from devastation. The help could have been better in the aftermath, but that is about it. New Orleans existed through generations of both Republican and Democrat Presidents who also did nothing to "prevent the devastation".

#13 - The statistics show that people in the communities against gay marriage are bipartisan. In some states there was even sub 20% votes in favor of gay marriage. Obviously that isn't because democrats aren't going to the polls.

#21 - Getting in and out of Canada is actually infinitely more challenging in many respects than getting in and out of Mexico - particularly if you use a standard border station. They actually require a birth certificate or passport just to cross and come back vs a legal drivers license along the Mexico border.

#16 - Sure. As long as I'm not breaking any laws that isn't a big deal right? Have you never seen the census? How much personal data is required by law? I received mine and it is outrageous. This is a bi-partisan legal requirement on the population. It asks name, age, address, income, family info, etc etc... It is really extensive and also a privacy violation. But anyway, if it came down to me letting the government listen to my phone calls and stopping terrorists from blowing up New Yoirk, I would take that deal.

#18 & #19 - Again bipartisan... I could ask a lot of democrats that question and get the same "that's none of your business answer". Just because you are democrat doesn't make you a swinger who is totally open minded about talking about how you fuck your wife/partner.

#31 - Nobody should be glad about social security right now. It was a flawed program without built in protections to secure it's future. The fact that many of us will get nothing while contributing subtatial $ to it is a travesty. Some of the very things that the liberals have done have resulted in American companies outsourcing to cheaper labor off shore. The bottom line is going to outweigh how we treat our population every time. Unfortunately, by creating these programs, we have often created situations which it is almost impossible to compete. Look at American cars vs foreign and how many plants are still located in the USA.

#29 - Clinton couldn't find Osama either. Bipartisan problem. There are democrats and republicans in the military looking for dude.

#32 - What are the top 10 things that you've (you personally) given to America? Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are conservative Republicans and they are the biggest philanthropists in the history of the world. None of the piss poor Democrats are out there giving 50 billion dollars to fight HIV, cure other diseases, feed the poor, etc. Instead they are on shemale message boards bitching about how Republicans never do anything good and sitting on the white house lawn with their trailers parked down the street with signs saying "fuck Bush". After all, their social security checks will be coming anyway so they don't need to be at work. See - stereotyping works both ways right?

Finally - as far as I know - nobody likes Dick Cheney but there are left wing whackos who most people don't like also. I mean if you pick the Satan of the republican party of course that would go that way... What about McCain? He's a good guy and even democrats like him. Just because you are democrat or republican doesn't make you a bad person or make you so far apart on all the issues. These questions just make you look uneducated as many of them have nothing to do with the Republican party.

I do hate that many Republicans come off as religious zealots and are so closed minded against pornography and telling people how to live. However, politics itself is a form of control. Giving 40% of our income to the IRS is not what our forefathers envisioned. Increasing this only further puts the government in control of our lives.


Vicki Richter, you sound like a true compatriot (which is the original meaning of the term "patriot"). It's just that you're caught up in the false "left and right" debate.

The terms "left" and "right" in the political sense go back to 1789 in France. When the French Estates-General (États-Généraux) met on May 6, 1789, the Third Estate commoners, who wanted less taxes and government control (i.e., "laissez-faire"), were seated on the left side of King Louis XVI, and the Second Estate nobles and First Estate clergy, who were the conservatives and wanted to maintain the government's power, sat on his right. (Prior to the May 1789 convention of the French Estates-General [the first meeting of which was on May 5, 1789], the last time the Estates-General had met was under King Louis XIII from October 27, 1614 to February 23, 1615.)

Also, "liberal" originally meant what we would call today (at least in the U.S. and Canada) "libertarian," i.e., laissez-faire free market, less taxes, less regulation, and gun ownership by the common people. Thus, in the original sense of the words, someone who wanted no taxes, all drugs to be legal, a free market, and armament of the common people would be a left-wing liberal.

The term "liberal" as it is commonly used today is purely and simply a misnomer meaning the opposite of what it originally meant, as those commonly called "liberals" today are about giving government more power, not in stripping government of power. Those commonly called "liberals" today are in fact *right-wing conservatives* in the original sense of that political term. So also, socialism and communism are exceedingly *right-wing* and *conservative* political philosophies, as they put all power into the hands of government, rather than strip government of power.



So debate me Chef. I haven't seen you manage or even attempt that yet. I'm actually wondering if you even care about all this stuff you post all the time or just try to rile people up with this nonsense. Are your other Democratic friends on this board embarassed about your ranting on here?

[Vicki Richter]

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He won't debate any of the issues I have presented and if he does, he won't do it well. Since I know he's your cyber-hero - you are of course welcome to refute anything I've said as well SpecialK.

I do love an educated debate.

[Ecstatic]

#21 - Getting in and out of Canada is actually infinitely more challenging in many respects than getting in and out of Mexico - particularly if you use a standard border station. They actually require a birth certificate or passport just to cross and come back vs a legal drivers license along the Mexico border.
Vicki, you know I respect your opinion highly, but where did you get your info on American citizens visiting Canada? I've probably spent a year of my life visiting Canada on dozens of trips (one lasting nearly 3 months) and have never been asked to produce a US passport nor birth certificate. Officially, a US passport is NOT required, though it is advisable to have a birth certificate or other proof of citizenship (though I usually don't and have never been asked for same). [/quote]

The official word from the Canadian government: "If you are a citizen of the United States, you do not need a passport to enter Canada. However, you should carry proof of your citizenship, such as a birth certificate, certificate of citizenship or naturalization, as well as a photo ID." [Source: Canada Border Services Agency, http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4161/rc4161-e.html]

[Jamie Michelle]

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He won't debate any of the issues I have presented and if he does, he won't do it well. Since I know he's your cyber-hero - you are of course welcome to refute anything I've said as well SpecialK.

I do love an educated debate.

Great, then debate me. I'll hand your own ass over to you on a silver platter.

[specialk]

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He won't debate any of the issues I have presented and if he does, he won't do it well. Since I know he's your cyber-hero - you are of course welcome to refute anything I've said as well SpecialK.

I do love an educated debate.

Well Vicki dear, I'm not realy up to debating this "stuff", with you or anyone else. Lets just say I love you as a TS.

I don't read political blogs, liberal or conservative. I'm older than the total number of questions here, and have formed all my opinions without the help of others, over several decades here in the real world.

I did look at some of your responses, but couldn't help but shake my head and laugh at your #4-5 response. The fact is the entire cityof New Orleans lies below sea level, and continues to sink more each passing year. So, saying "The worst hit people were living on known flood plains. You obviously would not want to build there again...." is kinda funny, to say the least!

Your challenge to Chef Mike is pretty bold, and I admire your "spunk".....I'm pretty sure Chef will accomodate you with a retort at his next convienence. Personaly, I wish you 2 people got along better. I think the forum suffers when Tgirl members get angry and dissappear, especially when someone insults them undeservedly.....but, then on the other hand, if folks want to talk trash then they have to be willing to take the heat......So be carefull what you wish for honey :wink:

[Vicki Richter]

I have a friend who had a family member get hit by a car in Canada. She was in the country on life support and not expected to live when my friend and his family chose to go see her ASAP. Only they found out that they would require certain documents to get back into the US that they didn't have readily available.

To exit Canada they were required to have passports or birth certificates a the border crossing. They said it was actually not required to enter Canada, but to get back into the US from Canada. This just happened within the past 45 days.

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/documentary_requirements.xml


Due to heightened security it is strongly recommended that U.S. citizens also present their passports even when returning from travel only to Canada or Mexico.

* I do stand corrected as I originally said "cross and come back" vs just "come back".


Vicki

[Vicki Richter]

Great, then debate me. I'll hand your own ass over to you on a silver platter.

Jamie - Unfortunately you are way too out there for anyone to debate. You bring up really lively conspiracy theories that debating would be a lot like clapping with one hand. I've read some of your stuff and it is way far out of the norm for any political or social party. However, unlike others perhaps, I can respect your creativity and ability to have opinions different than my own.

Debating is almost never about being right or wrong, but being able to respect anothers opinions while arguing against them at the same time. This is why I would beat Chef 100% of the time in a televised debate.

[Jamie Michelle]

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He won't debate any of the issues I have presented and if he does, he won't do it well. Since I know he's your cyber-hero - you are of course welcome to refute anything I've said as well SpecialK.

I do love an educated debate.

Well Vicki dear, I'm not realy up to debating this "stuff", with you or anyone else. Lets just say I love you as a TS.

I don't read political blogs, liberal or conservative. I'm older than the total number of questions here, and have formed all my opinions without the help of others, over several decades here in the real world.

I did look at some of your responses, but couldn't help but shake my head and laugh at your #4-5 response. The fact is the entire cityof New Orleans lies below sea level, and continues to sink more each passing year. So, saying "The worst hit people were living on known flood plains. You obviously would not want to build there again...." is kinda funny, to say the least!

Your challenge to Chef Mike is pretty bold, and I admire your "spunk".....I'm pretty sure Chef will accomodate you with a retort at his next convienence. Personaly, I wish you 2 people got along better. I think the forum suffers when Tgirl members get angry and dissappear, especially when someone insults them undeservedly.....but, then on the other hand, if folks want to talk trash then they have to be willing to take the heat......So be carefull what you wish for honey :wink:

You may not be up for a debate, but if Vicki Richter wants a debate then I'll be glad to rip her several new assholes, intellectually speaking.

Not that I dislike Vicki Richter, but I'm always game for a debate.

[Jamie Michelle]

Great, then debate me. I'll hand your own ass over to you on a silver platter.

Jamie - Unfortunately you are way too out there for anyone to debate. You bring up really lively conspiracy theories that debating would be a lot like clapping with one hand. I've read some of your stuff and it is way far out of the norm for any political or social party. However, unlike others perhaps, I can respect your creativity and ability to have opinions different than my own.

Debating is almost never about being right or wrong, but being able to respect anothers opinions while arguing against them at the same time. This is why I would beat Chef 100% of the time in a televised debate.

I accept your concession.

[Ecstatic]

I have a friend who had a family member get hit by a car in Canada. She was in the country on life support and not expected to live when my friend and his family chose to go see her ASAP. Only they found out that they would require certain documents to get back into the US that they didn't have readily available.

To exit Canada they were required to have passports or birth certificates a the border crossing. They said it was actually not required to enter Canada, but to get back into the US from Canada. This just happened within the past 45 days.

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/documentary_requirements.xml


Due to heightened security it is strongly recommended that U.S. citizens also present their passports even when returning from travel only to Canada or Mexico.


Vicki
Sorry to hear about your friend's experience. Since I am not privy to their situation, I really cannot speak to it directly; perhaps there were mitigating circumstances. But note that the US site you quote specifies "it is strongly recommended," not required. In your original post you stated "They actually require a birth certificate or passport just to cross and come back" while here you state that it was required for your friend's family in returning to the US.

The site you quote also states clearly:


Returning U.S. Citizens from abroad must present a valid passport for entry into the United States unless returning from the Western Hemisphere.
and

A U.S. citizen is not required to bear a valid passport to enter or depart the United States (under 22 CFR 53.2):

b. When traveling between the United States and any country, territory, or island adjacent thereto in North, South or Central America excluding Cuba; provided, that this exception is not applicable to any such person when proceeding to or arriving from a place outside the United States for which a valid passport is required under this part if such travel is accomplished within 60 days of departure from the United States via any country or territory in North, South or Central America or any island adjacent thereto;
(which begs the question, was a member of your friend's family under this provision, that is had traveled to a place outside the US requiring a passport within 60 days of departure from the US?)

However, in keeping with the political theme of this thread, I quite agree that, whilst the current administration is in power, I will bring either my passport or my birth certificate when traveling to and from Canada.

[Vicki Richter]

I did look at some of your responses, but couldn't help but shake my head and laugh at your #4-5 response. The fact is the entire cityof New Orleans lies below sea level, and continues to sink more each passing year. So, saying "The worst hit people were living on known flood plains. You obviously would not want to build there again...." is kinda funny, to say the least!


Yes but as we all know, the richer - even middle class neighborhoods were built in such a way that many were left largely undamaged. This is why so many white people were able to quickly return while most of the poorer people were not - thus dramatically changing the population demographic. I think it is safe to say that building in some places carries a significantly higher risk overall. If you have one area closer to levies and 20 ft below another area, they are in substantially more danger and risk is higher. Hence flood plain. The entire city can't be zoned as a flood plain just because it is below sea level.

[BeardedOne]

#21 - Getting in and out of Canada is actually infinitely more challenging in many respects than getting in and out of Mexico - particularly if you use a standard border station. They actually require a birth certificate or passport just to cross and come back vs a legal drivers license along the Mexico border.
Vicki, you know I respect your opinion highly, but where did you get your info on American citizens visiting Canada? I've probably spent a year of my life visiting Canada on dozens of trips (one lasting nearly 3 months) and have never been asked to produce a US passport nor birth certificate. Officially, a US passport is NOT required, though it is advisable to have a birth certificate or other proof of citizenship (though I usually don't and have never been asked for same).

The official word from the Canadian government: "If you are a citizen of the United States, you do not need a passport to enter Canada. However, you should carry proof of your citizenship, such as a birth certificate, certificate of citizenship or naturalization, as well as a photo ID." [Source: Canada Border Services Agency, http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4161/rc4161-e.html][/quote]

It's not about entering Canadia, E, it's all about getting back in. I was thrown out of Canada three times in one day and refused entry into my own country on two occassions, so it's all a matter of which agent of the government you encounter, what sekrit woids you know, and whether or not they've had their morning cwawfee.

Oddly, the only thing I've really needed to get into Canada was a checkbook and a valid credit card. I could have had an Uzi in a shoulder holster and they'd still have let me in had I had those two things with me on the three-times-you're-out day. :shrug

[Jamie Michelle]

I did look at some of your responses, but couldn't help but shake my head and laugh at your #4-5 response. The fact is the entire cityof New Orleans lies below sea level, and continues to sink more each passing year. So, saying "The worst hit people were living on known flood plains. You obviously would not want to build there again...." is kinda funny, to say the least!


Yes but as we all know, the richer - even middle class neighborhoods were built in such a way that many were left largely undamaged. This is why so many white people were able to quickly return while most of the poorer people were not - thus dramatically changing the population demographic. I think it is safe to say that building in some places carries a significantly higher risk overall. If you have one area closer to levies and 20 ft below another area, they are in substantially more danger and risk is higher. Hence flood plain. The entire city can't be zoned as a flood plain just because it is below sea level.

For more on the loving nature of the Canadian government, see the below post by me:

Subject: Cutting Off Arms and Crushing Children's Testicles: Welcome to the New Freedom
From: James Redford <jrredford@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,pd axs.issues.democrats
Message-ID: <3fb8a252uiuneebuh39m6n72raqoep55cf@4ax.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:46:12 -0400

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/eb9c6ada2281261d

In the above post I provide massive amounts of documentation where the U.S. government itself admits it is holding innocent people indefinitely without charges (including U.S. citizens), torturing them, raping them--including homosexually anally raping them--and murdering them, and that the orders to do so came from the highest levels of the U.S. government.

[chefmike]

Oh dear...I log on and find out that big Vicki is stalking me yet again...you-know-who is going to be jealous :wink: ...and it appears that your most recent dramatic farewell lasted about as long as your other tearful goodbyes.... now there's a shocker...:roll:

[Vicki Richter]

Oh dear...I log on and find out that big Vicki is stalking me yet again...you-know-who is going to be jealous :wink: ...and it appears that your most recent dramatic farewell lasted about as long as your other tearful goodbyes.... now there's a shocker...:roll:

No I'm not... You encouraged anyone to participate in this activity actually.

I see that you are diverting again though. What do you have to say about my points? Anything rational? From the top 50 comments you posted, it sounds like you are the one wearing the little tin foil cap around.

[Jamie Michelle]

Oh dear...I log on and find out that big Vicki is stalking me yet again...you-know-who is going to be jealous :wink: ...and it appears that your most recent dramatic farewell lasted about as long as your other tearful goodbyes.... now there's a shocker...:roll:

No I'm not... You encouraged anyone to participate in this activity actually.

I see that you are diverting again though. What do you have to say about my points? Anything rational? From the top 50 comments you posted, it sounds like you are the one wearing the little tin foil cap around.

Indeed. Possibly it is a tricornered tin foil cap that he is wearing, which would be especially evil, so I have heard.

[chefmike]

Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are conservative Republicans and they are the biggest philanthropists in the history of the world. None of the piss poor Democrats are out there giving 50 billion dollars to fight HIV, cure other diseases, feed the poor, etc. Instead they are on shemale message boards bitching about how Republicans never do anything good and sitting on the white house lawn with their trailers parked down the street with signs saying "fuck Bush". After all, their social security checks will be coming anyway so they don't need to be at work. See - stereotyping works both ways right?



Just the facts, ma'am...please..

Buffett joins Kerry's economic advisory team
From wire reports
OMAHA — Warren Buffett, the billionaire investor who has publicly criticized President Bush's tax cuts as favoring the wealthy, has agreed to serve as an economic adviser to John Kerry.
Buffett, a Democrat, said Sunday he and Kerry have spoken once — when Kerry called to ask if Buffett would serve with a group of advisers that includes Roger Altman, deputy treasury secretary under President Clinton, and former Clinton economic adviser Gene Sperling.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2004-05-03-buffett-kerry_x.htm

Feel free to show us when and where Gates has declared himself to be a conservative repug...he gives money to both parties....

And I'm sure that James (just call me Kaczynski) Redford can prove that they are both in fact members of the Illuminati or some other sinister mythical organization that gives paranoid schizo's like him wood...

[chefmike]

#13 - The statistics show that people in the communities against gay marriage are bipartisan. In some states there was even sub 20% votes in favor of gay marriage. Obviously that isn't because democrats aren't going to the polls.



Bipartisan? Maybe if you lump all the combined bible-bangers together it might look that way...but repugs continue to be the majority in this crusade that Karl Rove was wise enough to orchestrate on state ballots in the last presidential election, thus ensuring that more homophobic bible-bangers would go to the polls...and of course cast their vote for monkeyboy while they were voting against them damn homo's...
Once again...just the facts, ma'am....please...

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=273

[chefmike]

#16 - Sure. As long as I'm not breaking any laws that isn't a big deal right? Have you never seen the census? How much personal data is required by law? I received mine and it is outrageous. This is a bi-partisan legal requirement on the population. It asks name, age, address, income, family info, etc etc... It is really extensive and also a privacy violation. But anyway, if it came down to me letting the government listen to my phone calls and stopping terrorists from blowing up New Yoirk, I would take that deal.


What the fuck does the census have do do with illegal wiretapping?...But while were on the subject....I enjoy slamming the door on census takers almost as much as I do on Jehovah's Witnesses...

And as far as blowing up NYC is concerned, maybe you better read the 9/11 report...there were a great deal of communications that were intercepted prior to 9/11...and a lot of good it did...but I'm sure that your kind will attempt to blame that on Clinton as well...

Once again ma'am...just the facts...please...

http://www.lizmichael.com/census.htm

[Hugh Jarrod]

I used to live near Detroit and used to walk into Canada no problem. It should be harder for those moose jockeys and ice backs to get here and take our jobs! Where are the "Minute Men" when you need them? I say we hire a bunch of cheap laborers (from some place like Mexico) and pay them to guard the Canadian border!

[chefmike]

:arrow:

[Vicki Richter]

Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are conservative Republicans and they are the biggest philanthropists in the history of the world. None of the piss poor Democrats are out there giving 50 billion dollars to fight HIV, cure other diseases, feed the poor, etc. Instead they are on shemale message boards bitching about how Republicans never do anything good and sitting on the white house lawn with their trailers parked down the street with signs saying "fuck Bush". After all, their social security checks will be coming anyway so they don't need to be at work. See - stereotyping works both ways right?



Just the facts, ma'am...please..

Buffett joins Kerry's economic advisory team
From wire reports
OMAHA — Warren Buffett, the billionaire investor who has publicly criticized President Bush's tax cuts as favoring the wealthy, has agreed to serve as an economic adviser to John Kerry.
Buffett, a Democrat, said Sunday he and Kerry have spoken once — when Kerry called to ask if Buffett would serve with a group of advisers that includes Roger Altman, deputy treasury secretary under President Clinton, and former Clinton economic adviser Gene Sperling.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2004-05-03-buffett-kerry_x.htm

Feel free to show us when and where Gates has declared himself to be a conservative repug...he gives money to both parties....

And I'm sure that James (just call me Kaczynski) Redford can prove that they are both in fact members of the Illuminati or some other sinister mythical organization that gives paranoid schizo's like him wood...


http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=13798

"TODAY'S SUNDAY Telegraph here claims that Her Brittanic Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is to bestow an honorary knighthood on avid Republican Bill Gates."

[chefmike]

A quote from a UK tabloid? Where and when has Bill Gates declared himself to be a conservative repug?...And as for Warren Buffett....well...

As GW said...You're doing a heck of a job, Brownie...

[Vicki Richter]

#13 - The statistics show that people in the communities against gay marriage are bipartisan. In some states there was even sub 20% votes in favor of gay marriage. Obviously that isn't because democrats aren't going to the polls.



Bipartisan? Maybe if you lump all the combined bible-bangers together it might look that way...but repugs continue to be the majority in this crusade that Karl Rove was wise enough to orchestrate on state ballots in the last presidential election, thus ensuring that more homophobic bible-bangers would go to the polls...and of course cast their vote for monkeyboy while they were voting against them damn homo's...
Once again...just the facts, ma'am....please...

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=273

Hey if it was a partisan issue, it would win in at least one state right? Doesn't logic state that? Try to get gay marriage on a ballot in NY and watch it fall and NYC is certainly a Democrat state. And please don't refute my UK tabloids when you are quoting stuff from "press-people.org"

The Inquirer - not Enquirer - is a very good (and entertaining) source of news I'll have you know.

Illegal is only illegal when you don't have the means to make it legal. Again, if people aren't afraid of doing illegal things, then they shouldn't worry about their phone lines being tapped. I can't think of really anything that I've said on the phone which I would not want the CIA to hear. If they are so bored that they want to listen to my phone calls... well then... The question I have for you is the same that appeared in your top 50 - "What do you have to hide?"

[chefmike]

#13 - The statistics show that people in the communities against gay marriage are bipartisan. In some states there was even sub 20% votes in favor of gay marriage. Obviously that isn't because democrats aren't going to the polls.



Bipartisan? Maybe if you lump all the combined bible-bangers together it might look that way...but repugs continue to be the majority in this crusade that Karl Rove was wise enough to orchestrate on state ballots in the last presidential election, thus ensuring that more homophobic bible-bangers would go to the polls...and of course cast their vote for monkeyboy while they were voting against them damn homo's...
Once again...just the facts, ma'am....please...

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=273

Hey if it was a partisan issue, it would win in at least one state right? Doesn't logic state that? Try to get gay marriage on a ballot in NY and watch it fall and NYC is certainly a Democrat state. And please don't refute my UK tabloids when you are quoting stuff from "press-people.org"

The Inquirer - not Enquirer - is a very good (and entertaining) source of news I'll have you know.

Illegal is only illegal when you don't have the means to make it legal. Again, if people aren't afraid of doing illegal things, then they shouldn't worry about their phone lines being tapped. I can't think of really anything that I've said on the phone which I would not want the CIA to hear. If they are so bored that they want to listen to my phone calls... well then... The question I have for you is the same that appeared in your top 50 - "What do you have to hide?"

That's your so-called debate?...Who needs the right of privacy that was promised us by our founding fathers?.... So just trust monkeyboy, and everything will be alright? You really would have made a good german, Eva Richter...keep drinking that kool-aid, Eva...and just keep following orders...

[Jamie Michelle]

Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are conservative Republicans and they are the biggest philanthropists in the history of the world. None of the piss poor Democrats are out there giving 50 billion dollars to fight HIV, cure other diseases, feed the poor, etc. Instead they are on shemale message boards bitching about how Republicans never do anything good and sitting on the white house lawn with their trailers parked down the street with signs saying "fuck Bush". After all, their social security checks will be coming anyway so they don't need to be at work. See - stereotyping works both ways right?



Just the facts, ma'am...please..

Buffett joins Kerry's economic advisory team
From wire reports
OMAHA — Warren Buffett, the billionaire investor who has publicly criticized President Bush's tax cuts as favoring the wealthy, has agreed to serve as an economic adviser to John Kerry.
Buffett, a Democrat, said Sunday he and Kerry have spoken once — when Kerry called to ask if Buffett would serve with a group of advisers that includes Roger Altman, deputy treasury secretary under President Clinton, and former Clinton economic adviser Gene Sperling.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2004-05-03-buffett-kerry_x.htm

Feel free to show us when and where Gates has declared himself to be a conservative repug...he gives money to both parties....

And I'm sure that James (just call me Kaczynski) Redford can prove that they are both in fact members of the Illuminati or some other sinister mythical organization that gives paranoid schizo's like him wood...

No. Actually, what gives me the most wood is the thought of you thinking about my wood. Mmmmm.

"Offutt, Buffett, and 9/11: Strange Coincidences," Mary Louise, PrisonPlanet.com, May 26, 2003:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_louise_052603_buffett.html

John Kerry and Bushes Sr. and Jr. are all Bonesmen in the occult sociey of the Brotherhood of Death (a.k.a. the Order of Skull & Bones at Yale), of which occult society was instrumental in the funding of Hitler and the Nazis. Bonesman Prescott Bush (Bush, Sr.'s father) had one of his banks and a number of his companies seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act for his financing of the Nazis even during wartime.

Although with the black-box electronic voting, the ruling elite can simply punch in any numbers that they want, as they did in the 2004 U.S. Presidential election (of which the actual winner, Bonesman Kerry, was more than happy to roll over for his good buddies, the Bushes):

"Science proves that vote fraud is real!," Joseph Cannon, April 2, 2005:

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005/04/science-proves-that-vote-fraud-is-real.html

"Analysis of the 2004 Presidential Election Exit Poll Discrepancies," Josh Mitteldorf, Ph.D., Kathy Dopp, MS mathematics, Steven F. Freeman, Ph.D., Prof. Brian Joiner, Prof. Frank Stenger, Prof. Richard G. Sheehan, Paul F. Velleman, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Victoria Lovegren, Ph.D. Lecturer, Campbell B. Read, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, Jonathan Simon, Ron Baiman, Bruce O'Dell, US Count Votes' National Election Data Archive Project, March 31, 2005:

http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/Exit_Polls_2004_Edison-Mitofsky.pdf

"The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy," Steven F. Freeman, Ph.D., University of Pennsylvania, November 11, 2004:

http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/11/Unexplained_exit_poll_discrep_v00l.pdf

In "The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy," Dr. Steven F. Freeman says:

"As much as we can say in social science that something is impossible, it is impossible that the discrepancies between predicted and actual vote counts in the three critical battleground states [Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania] of the 2004 election could have been due to chance or random error."

The odds of those exit poll statistical anomalies occurring by chance are, according to Dr. Freeman, "250,000,000 to one."

See also:

"Was the 2004 Election Stolen?: Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted--enough to have put John Kerry in the White House," Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Rolling Stone, June 15, 2006 issue:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen/1

"Was the 2004 Election Stolen? Sources and Commentary," Rolling Stone, June 1, 2006:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10463875/was_the_2004_election_stolen_sources_and_commentar y

[chefmike]

Your challenge to Chef Mike is pretty bold, and I admire your "spunk".....I'm pretty sure Chef will accomodate you with a retort at his next convienence. Personaly, I wish you 2 people got along better. I think the forum suffers when Tgirl members get angry and dissappear, especially when someone insults them undeservedly.....but, then on the other hand, if folks want to talk trash then they have to be willing to take the heat......So be carefull what you wish for honey

Her debate bravado lasted about as long as her last dramatic farewell to this forum...perhaps she should consider volunteering to entertain the prisoners at Gitmo Bay instead...and in between sets Eva Richter could even help the guards with the torture duty, being the brave patriot that she is...as JFK said..."ask not what your country can do for you..."

[Vicki Richter]

Your challenge to Chef Mike is pretty bold, and I admire your "spunk".....I'm pretty sure Chef will accomodate you with a retort at his next convienence. Personaly, I wish you 2 people got along better. I think the forum suffers when Tgirl members get angry and dissappear, especially when someone insults them undeservedly.....but, then on the other hand, if folks want to talk trash then they have to be willing to take the heat......So be carefull what you wish for honey

Her debate bravado lasted about as long as her last dramatic farewell to this forum...perhaps she should consider volunteering to entertain the prisoners at Gitmo Bay instead...and in between sets Eva Richter could even help the guards with the torture duty, being the brave patriot that she is...as JFK said..."ask not what your country can do for you..."

I'm confident in my arguments and yes, I do think it would be fun to sexually humiliate prisoners to get them to talk. What is so different between what our military did by burning or tearing up the Koran in front of them and you posting your religious hate rhetoric on here? Seems like you would do a good job helping the guards torturing prisoners too.

[specialk]

Your challenge to Chef Mike is pretty bold, and I admire your "spunk".....I'm pretty sure Chef will accomodate you with a retort at his next convienence. Personaly, I wish you 2 people got along better. I think the forum suffers when Tgirl members get angry and dissappear, especially when someone insults them undeservedly.....but, then on the other hand, if folks want to talk trash then they have to be willing to take the heat......So be carefull what you wish for honey

Her debate bravado lasted about as long as her last dramatic farewell to this forum...perhaps she should consider volunteering to entertain the prisoners at Gitmo Bay instead...and in between sets Eva Richter could even help the guards with the torture duty, being the brave patriot that she is...as JFK said..."ask not what your country can do for you..."


LMAO Chef.......I wish she would stick to what she knows best, being a TS and TSporn. I can appreciate her insights to threads on those topics, which is what I find most interesting at HA. Will anything here change?...."The more things change, the more they seem the same"
Deja Vu all over again?? :roll:

[White_Male_Canada]

Your challenge to Chef Mike is pretty bold, and I admire your "spunk".....I'm pretty sure Chef will accomodate you with a retort at his next convienence. Personaly, I wish you 2 people got along better. I think the forum suffers when Tgirl members get angry and dissappear, especially when someone insults them undeservedly.....but, then on the other hand, if folks want to talk trash then they have to be willing to take the heat......So be carefull what you wish for honey

Her debate bravado lasted about as long as her last dramatic farewell to this forum...perhaps she should consider volunteering to entertain the prisoners at Gitmo Bay instead...and in between sets Eva Richter could even help the guards with the torture duty, being the brave patriot that she is...as JFK said..."ask not what your country can do for you..."

The Fluffington Post ! ?

BAWAAHAAAHAAA :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

50 Questions from who, Robert J. Elisberg !?

A-ha-ha-haaa :P

A flunkie screen writer with no credentials to his name !

LOL-LOL-LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

And beetle-bailey the potato peeler who refuses to post both his personal complete,total,unedited DD-214 and F-180,in full.

Que`st qui passe jean francois kerri ?

The Fluffington post et al.,what a fucking joke.

:P 8) :P 8) :P 8) :P 8) :P

[chefmike]

Your challenge to Chef Mike is pretty bold, and I admire your "spunk".....I'm pretty sure Chef will accomodate you with a retort at his next convienence. Personaly, I wish you 2 people got along better. I think the forum suffers when Tgirl members get angry and dissappear, especially when someone insults them undeservedly.....but, then on the other hand, if folks want to talk trash then they have to be willing to take the heat......So be carefull what you wish for honey

Her debate bravado lasted about as long as her last dramatic farewell to this forum...perhaps she should consider volunteering to entertain the prisoners at Gitmo Bay instead...and in between sets Eva Richter could even help the guards with the torture duty, being the brave patriot that she is...as JFK said..."ask not what your country can do for you..."

The Fluffington Post ! ?

BAWAAHAAAHAAA :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

50 Questions from who, Robert J. Elisberg !?

A-ha-ha-haaa :P

A flunkie screen writer with no credentials to his name !

LOL-LOL-LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

And beetle-bailey the potato peeler who refuses to post both his personal complete,total,unedited DD-214 and F-180,in full.

Que`st qui passe jean francois kerri ?

The Fluffington post et al.,what a fucking joke.

:P 8) :P 8) :P 8) :P 8) :P

I'm gonna post my DD-214 on the internet?... for the benefit of some pinhead from canada who probably talks to other John Birch Society geeks like himself on a ham radio? Keep dreaming, schmuck...it's always the chickenhawks like you, and your heroes like chickenhawk cheney, rush the junkie, wolfowitz, et al. who talk about going into battle... while they are cowering at home...same as it ever was... :roll: :lol:

[White_Male_Canada]

Your challenge to Chef Mike is pretty bold, and I admire your "spunk".....I'm pretty sure Chef will accomodate you with a retort at his next convienence. Personaly, I wish you 2 people got along better. I think the forum suffers when Tgirl members get angry and dissappear, especially when someone insults them undeservedly.....but, then on the other hand, if folks want to talk trash then they have to be willing to take the heat......So be carefull what you wish for honey

Her debate bravado lasted about as long as her last dramatic farewell to this forum...perhaps she should consider volunteering to entertain the prisoners at Gitmo Bay instead...and in between sets Eva Richter could even help the guards with the torture duty, being the brave patriot that she is...as JFK said..."ask not what your country can do for you..."

The Fluffington Post ! ?

BAWAAHAAAHAAA :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

50 Questions from who, Robert J. Elisberg !?

A-ha-ha-haaa :P

A flunkie screen writer with no credentials to his name !

LOL-LOL-LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

And beetle-bailey the potato peeler who refuses to post both his personal complete,total,unedited DD-214 and F-180,in full.

Que`st qui passe jean francois kerri ?

The Fluffington post et al.,what a fucking joke.

:P 8) :P 8) :P 8) :P 8) :P

I'm gonna post my DD-214 on the internet?... for the benefit of some pinhead from canada who probably talks to other John Birch Society geeks like himself on a ham radio? Keep dreaming, schmuck...it's always the chickenhawks like you, and your heroes like chickenhawk cheney, rush the junkie, wolfowitz, et al. who talk about going into battle... while they are cowering at home...same as it ever was... :roll: :lol:

Vous ette juste comme jean francois kerri,et tu est prouvier moi.

Newsflash Rambo,the Armed forces is an all volunteer outfit. What branch of the service did Robert Elisberg seve in? LOL :P

You pro-abortion lunatics haven`t done your duty and personaly volunteered to suck the brains out of a 9 month old fetus yet,fuckin` chicken hawk pro abortionists ! You pro-tax chicken hawks haven`t volunteered to send in more income to the IRS voluntarily,big talking no action chickenhawks.

LOL :P :lol: :P :lol: :P :lol: :P :lol:

You and jean perri,two peas in a pod. Can`t prove shit and too scared even if they did that we MAY find that they got a less than honorable and put themselves in for fake purples. 3 and out phonies.

:P 8) :o :P 8) :o :lol: :P 8) :lol: :P

This is too easy 8)

[chefmike]

This is too easy

LMFAO...yeah...you're doing a heck of a job brownie...oh shit...I meant to say whitey...but go figure... :wink:

[DamionXXX]

Я Люблю Вас Ulyana, я Люблю только Вас ... теперь и для остальной части моей жизни.

[specialk]

I am tired of even trying to be a republican or a democrat... I hate all of em almost as much as I hate religion...

I think its ok for whoever to get married ...LEFT

I agree with the death penalty in some cases... RIGHT

I would prefer a national sales tax, income tax pisses me off .... ummm???

I think child predators and sex offenders should be fed to wolves... RIGHT??

I think growing your own marjuana in small amounts for personal use should be legal ( although I dont care for pot ) ... LEFT

I am so against thousands and thousands of people living in project housing, having unwanted children that tax payers support while at the same time selling or using drugs and driving expensive SUVs... Govenment aid should be for the really needy... RIGHT!

I believe in a perfect world instead of a welfare or unemployment office handing out free money, they should evaluate the applicants better... if they are found to be able bodied but unwilling to work then they should have 2 options... option one... get the fuck out of this office. Option two... get on the truck parked in the back of this building and you will be assigned a rake, lawnmower, trash bag, paint brush and you will work for the county and be payed minimum wage for a days work... if you drink, use drugs or are caught sleeping under a tree... then you will go home and not be allowed to return for 30 days... 3 strikes and your out... RIGHT

I believe that people that abuse elderly people or mental patients should be impailed through the ass on a barbed wire pole... RIGHT

I believe prostitution should be legal but all sex workers be subject to HIV testing ... LEFT

I believe if a stranger enters your home to rob or injure you or your family or friends, you have the right to kill them no questions asked ... RIGHT

I believe that even churches should be sublect to some kind of national sales tax ( perhaps at a smaller percent ) after all a church is a buisness, and it makes a profit and some pastors have private jets, cars, drivers and bodyguards... ???????

I believe we need to strengthen our borders become a self reliant country, build a reliable missle defence system and leave the rest of the world the fuck alone... left??? right??? who knows...

I belive that we should use national guard and reserves to guard the mexican border... they have to train 2 weeks a year anyway... let them train along the mexican border and if they see illigals they need to detain them... RIGHT...

I believe that Prisons only make worse criminals... prisoners need to be seperated at all times so there is no possibility of violence, rape, escape plots, or talking about crime... they should have the chance to rehabilitate, not the chance to get tattoos, have sex, or learn more about crime... I believe only prisoners that show true remorse and rehabilitation should be allowed to have trustee jobs and only if they set an example of someone who wants to get back to society and be productive... NEVER GONNA HAPPEN...LOL

I believe that abusive parents/foster parents should be warned once with a misdameaner if its isnt sexual or requiring medical treatment... the second time it should be a felony... or they should be taken into a steel cage with a professional team of fighters and should have to suffer the exact same humiliation and injury... and then be forced to tell thier children they are sorry... CRAZY TALK!

I believe anyone living in the desert in a hut that does not have food or clean water should be politley asked to move closer to running water and a better food supply... not shipped 123312312 tons of rice and water... also they should be given an ample supply of condoms, and they could possibly be rewarded with food vouchers or money if they get a visectomy or tubes tied... thus helping out with the starving babys coverd in flies commercials on TV all the time... they say for the price of a cup of coffe we can heal the world.... ummm at starbucks 60 cents wont even get you a glass of water let alone coffe.... YES I AM MEAN....

I believe for the government to be entitled to 30 something % of all my income then George bush needs to get in drag and let me at least shoot a few galleries of him with a dildo in his ass... I mean he can have 35% but him and cheny are gonna have to work for it... IM NOT KIDDING...

I think companies that charge twice as much for a pre paid cell phone plan are idiots... you mean I have to pay more for a service I am paying for cash in advance??? Damn you eliteist bastards!!! LOL

I believe that lobbyists, special intrest groups or any big companys should be prosecuted if they try to come within 100 feet of an elected official... I believe that presidents, governors, senators ect... should have all assets frozen ( well earning intests ) but should not be able to have any buiness dealings that conflict with thier elected duties...

I am not saying I agree with the War in Iraq, but I think we need to get that shit taken care of and handed over to the Iraq government as soon as reasonably possible... I served 7 years with the 101st airborne division 1 year in korea and 1 year in the persian gulf... If I was asked to go there now I would tell the person asking to eat my shit!

thats whats going on in Damion land...

Yeh, what he said!!!..........your elected, you start Monday 8)

[chefmike]

I am tired of even trying to be a republican or a democrat... I hate all of em almost as much as I hate religion...

I think its ok for whoever to get married ...LEFT

I agree with the death penalty in some cases... RIGHT

I would prefer a national sales tax, income tax pisses me off .... ummm???

I think child predators and sex offenders should be fed to wolves... RIGHT??

I think growing your own marjuana in small amounts for personal use should be legal ( although I dont care for pot ) ... LEFT

I am so against thousands and thousands of people living in project housing, having unwanted children that tax payers support while at the same time selling or using drugs and driving expensive SUVs... Govenment aid should be for the really needy... RIGHT!

I believe in a perfect world instead of a welfare or unemployment office handing out free money, they should evaluate the applicants better... if they are found to be able bodied but unwilling to work then they should have 2 options... option one... get the fuck out of this office. Option two... get on the truck parked in the back of this building and you will be assigned a rake, lawnmower, trash bag, paint brush and you will work for the county and be payed minimum wage for a days work... if you drink, use drugs or are caught sleeping under a tree... then you will go home and not be allowed to return for 30 days... 3 strikes and your out... RIGHT

I believe that people that abuse elderly people or mental patients should be impailed through the ass on a barbed wire pole... RIGHT

I believe prostitution should be legal but all sex workers be subject to HIV testing ... LEFT

I believe if a stranger enters your home to rob or injure you or your family or friends, you have the right to kill them no questions asked ... RIGHT

I believe that even churches should be sublect to some kind of national sales tax ( perhaps at a smaller percent ) after all a church is a buisness, and it makes a profit and some pastors have private jets, cars, drivers and bodyguards... ???????

I believe we need to strengthen our borders become a self reliant country, build a reliable missle defence system and leave the rest of the world the fuck alone... left??? right??? who knows...

I belive that we should use national guard and reserves to guard the mexican border... they have to train 2 weeks a year anyway... let them train along the mexican border and if they see illigals they need to detain them... RIGHT...

I believe that Prisons only make worse criminals... prisoners need to be seperated at all times so there is no possibility of violence, rape, escape plots, or talking about crime... they should have the chance to rehabilitate, not the chance to get tattoos, have sex, or learn more about crime... I believe only prisoners that show true remorse and rehabilitation should be allowed to have trustee jobs and only if they set an example of someone who wants to get back to society and be productive... NEVER GONNA HAPPEN...LOL

I believe that abusive parents/foster parents should be warned once with a misdameaner if its isnt sexual or requiring medical treatment... the second time it should be a felony... or they should be taken into a steel cage with a professional team of fighters and should have to suffer the exact same humiliation and injury... and then be forced to tell thier children they are sorry... CRAZY TALK!

I believe anyone living in the desert in a hut that does not have food or clean water should be politley asked to move closer to running water and a better food supply... not shipped 123312312 tons of rice and water... also they should be given an ample supply of condoms, and they could possibly be rewarded with food vouchers or money if they get a visectomy or tubes tied... thus helping out with the starving babys coverd in flies commercials on TV all the time... they say for the price of a cup of coffe we can heal the world.... ummm at starbucks 60 cents wont even get you a glass of water let alone coffe.... YES I AM MEAN....

I believe for the government to be entitled to 30 something % of all my income then George bush needs to get in drag and let me at least shoot a few galleries of him with a dildo in his ass... I mean he can have 35% but him and cheny are gonna have to work for it... IM NOT KIDDING...

I think companies that charge twice as much for a pre paid cell phone plan are idiots... you mean I have to pay more for a service I am paying for cash in advance??? Damn you eliteist bastards!!! LOL

I believe that lobbyists, special intrest groups or any big companys should be prosecuted if they try to come within 100 feet of an elected official... I believe that presidents, governors, senators ect... should have all assets frozen ( well earning intests ) but should not be able to have any buiness dealings that conflict with thier elected duties...

I am not saying I agree with the War in Iraq, but I think we need to get that shit taken care of and handed over to the Iraq government as soon as reasonably possible... I served 7 years with the 101st airborne division 1 year in korea and 1 year in the persian gulf... If I was asked to go there now I would tell the person asking to eat my shit!

thats whats going on in Damion land...

A good post and some good points, Damion.

[White_Male_Canada]

This is too easy

LMFAO...yeah...you're doing a heck of a job brownie...oh shit...I meant to say whitey...but go figure... :wink:

Almost forgot the biggest fucking chicken hawk of them all,

Bill Clinton . This poor excuse for a human being bombed christian serbs from 25,000 feet and help create a radical muslim nation in europe.

Not only did he not serve, he dodged the draft and disappeared into the USSR!

Did chicken hawk slick willy serve, did Hillary , did Chelsey ?

Fuckin` chicken hawks :roll:

A-ha-haaa :P

This really is just too easy.

[chefmike]

It never fails...whenever a repug Bush apologist has their back against the wall, they always start with the same tired old "Clinton this...Clinton that" garbage....please...a little originality...why don't you surprise us and wail about that socialist bastard FDR the next time that you've got your tits in the wringer... :roll:

[White_Male_Canada]

It never fails...whenever a repug Bush apologist has their back against the wall, they always start with the same tired old "Clinton this...Clinton that" garbage....please...a little originality...why don't you surprise us and wail about that socialist bastard FDR the next time that you've got your tits in the wringer... :roll:

Sucks to be you when caught being a major league hypocrite.

So this alleged Beetle Bailey thinks it`s perfectly alright for a draft dodging perjurer who disappeared behind the iron curtain to attack christain serbs while not serving a day in the military his entire life,let alone Hillary or Chelsea,but rails at a NG fighter pilot who does !!!

A hilarious hypocrite of a moron.

[chefmike]

LMFAO...fighter pilot? The only thing (other than a hangover) that the chickenhawk chimp-in-chief shrubya has ever fought was a draft notice...hell, if he hadn't been such a privileged little punk, he might have ended up in Canada and fathered a deluded little jackass like you....

[johnb]

things are going great in the middle east. let's keep sending our poor folk to fight, let's borrow another 5 trillion from the chinese...by god in another 30 years we'll get this sumbitch done! fuck them towelheads!

[johnb]

btw, peace in the Middle East is an example of an oxymoron, and reminds me of a funny joke...
a jewish guy is walking down the beach when he sees a lantern, he picks it up and rubs it, and a genie pops out. the genie says, "I will grant you one wish". the jew says, "I vant peace in the middle east! I vant peace for all that have suffered in the past, are suffering now, and generations that will suffer in the future. I vant peace in the middle east!"
The genie replies, "Man, there are so many different countries, religions, nationalities, factions, factions within factions, and these people have been fighting for millenia. Sorry, wish I could, but I can't do peace in the Middle East. Make another wish.
So the Jewish guy replies, "Just vone time, just vone time I vant my vife to give me oral sex!"
And the genie replies, "Ok, when you were referring to peace in the middle east...

[chefmike]

Shrubya KO'd by commie Putin...dark days indeed for the chickenhawk-in-chief...

Putin Jabs Bush: ‘We Certainly Would Not Want…The Same Kind of Democracy As They Have in Iraq’
During a press conference today at the G8 summit in Russia, President Bush told President Vladimir Putin that Americans want Russia to develop a free press and free religion “like Iraq.” To laughter and applause, Putin responded: “We certainly would not want to have same kind of democracy as they have in Iraq, quite honestly.” CNN’s Ed Henry called it a “tough jab.” Watch it:

article and clip here:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/15/putin-jab/

[chefmike]

:P

[justin]

Chefmike, I am wondering if you have run across any web sites that have raised questions about Bush and our American business people dealing with China. Perhaps a 51st question?

It wasn't too many years ago that we would hear about the "Godless Red Chinese Communists". They apparently differ from the Cuban Communists, since there is no moral problem for American corporations to do business with this country. Of course, there is that $120 billion trade deficit. But what’s a few billion between friends?

While it took Hitler several years to murder 6 million defenseless civilians in and on the way to his death camps, I have seen reports that our Chinese friends commit about 10 million abortions yearly, often forcing women to abort long into their pregnancy. This apparently happens when they are obviously pregnant and can’t produce a birth permit.

For the life of me, I just can't figure out why no one seems to bring this subject up – that our American business leaders are actively engaged in making money with one of the most murderous people (by abortion) in the history of humanity! Why do millions of god-fearing, abortion hating religious folks have no problem at all buying products made in that country? Why do they bow their heads with their religious leaders and pray for the president and other politicians, who seem to have no problem at all dealing with that country?

[JenESPY]

the 'L' word i getting a bad rep here...there are liberal republicans, just as there are conservative democrats

i am a democrat who takes offense to automatically being labeled a liberal...not the same thing