Is it racist for a GG and TS to refuse to have sex with a black man in porn?

[TSPornFan]

This has been a very popular topic in the straight porn community. As many of you know that many genetic females in straight porn do not perform in interracial scenes with black men. There are also some TS pornstars who also do not perform in scenes with black men. This isn't an issue in TS porn due to the lack of available black male talent.

I once believed that these women were not racist. They weren't sexually interested in black men and they have every right to fuck with whoever they want to. However, my feelings as a black man on the subject are shifting. I'm more on the fence at the moment and maybe you guys can influence my current stance.

Agents, directors, and producers discourage girls from doing interracial porn. Some porn agencies such as LA Direct Models are famous for having few to no girls who will shoot scenes with black men. We also have girls as I said who are not sexually interested in black men.

Here is my problem that has affected my former stance on the subject. These same women who do not have sex with black men are more than willing to sleep with a man from any other race. I have a hard time believing that such a large group of women will say yes to a White man, Asian man, Hispanic man, and Native American man and will say no to a black man. It's like working with 100 women at your large office job and 88 women will fuck with every guy regardless of his color except your racial group. I can see some people being attracted to everyone except for one racial group. I just can't see a large population having those sexual preferences.

Of course we have girls who will say they date and fuck black men in their personal lives. Some will go as far as saying that they don't care about the dick's color. Yet, they have been in the business for years and never let a black man touch them. Then there are some who say they dislike how IR porn is portrayed and that is understandable until you learn that they own a site to shoot the type of IR content that is acceptable to them.

What are your thoughts on the matter?

[8bit]

i've slept with two black guys in the past, but perhaps maybe the fear is in the hiv/aids epidemic in the africas, and uhhm, in brazil -- especially in the adult entertainment industry

[lordworm]

Maybe they aren't, maybe they are. I don't think their business decision has anything to do with how they feel off the clock. Do you ever wonder if any of the GGs or TGs that do have sex with black men might still be racist in real life? I don't think one has anything to do with the other.

Monica Mattos blew a horse for fucks sake.

[SexSlave1972]

Is it racism to eat vanilla ice-cream instead of chocolate ?

[maaarc]

as long as they don't want to fuck the Irish!!! LOL

[Jericho]

Here we go again....

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/1607053056/hBAE19CF9/

[maaarc]

Here we go again....

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/1607053056/hBAE19CF9/

Yup :) somethings never change - gives you a feeling of stability in a chaotic world

[SexSlave1972]

Maybe big black is just too scary for someone :D

http://images.sex.com/images/pinporn/2013/06/29/620/3066516-huge-cock.jpg

[blackchubby38]

No its not racist. Its their choice for whatever reason not to have sex with a black man on camera. Just like its my choice as a consumer not to watch any of their scenes. But to be honest with you, that would probably be one of the last reasons as to why I wouldn't watch any of the particular girls in question's work.

Although for the girls in question, I really don't want to hear the disliking how IR porn is portrayed excuse. Especially if they run their own site Or how they won't have sex with a black man on film. But all of the sudden they want to fuck Drake.

[lifeisfiction]

We have had this discussion a ton of times. We have explained why. Yes its sad and yes I being black think its silly. It has been said on a ton of forums and boards in the straight porn forums that doing interracial porn can limit your fee, because a lot of people don't want to see their performers in interracial porn. That being said, we do understand this is porn.

This is for entertainment. No people do not go around and act like that, but we love to think they do. It is a perception that makes us enjoy the product. So yes it is frustrating that feel that way about it. People prejudice make their way into porn, because just being honest. How some porn is marketed its pretty bad.

Let me say I always laugh when girl on girl porn is consider part of the straight porn community if the women look like lipstick lesbians. In reality its gay porn. Gay porn is looked down upon because it involves two men. But is gay porn. I never got it but there you go. Like I said porn while entertaining has a lot of people's own prejudice. Sad, but true.

I know you hope the more of discussion the more people's opinion will change, but the way society is moving call me cynical, but it will get worst before it gets better.

[LilyRox]

I think black guys on white girls is hot in porn. Its not done a lot for some reason though. Directors normally sway away from IR scenes unless their site specializes in it. I personally think its racist.

As for the girls I think they should be able to date who they are attracted to in real life. Some girls aren't attracted to black guys, but that doesn't mean they should deny them while doing porn. You're getting paid for a reason. This isn't about finding "true love".

[pikashoo]

this is my humble opinion, and i hope it help you =

They weren't sexually interested in black men and they have every right to fuck with whoever they want to. <-- you said your self.
it is only racist when they state something like this =
a certain colored group should not bed another different colored group.
that statement removed a given human right ! to sleep with whom ever we like.
or when she generalize a statement based on color , like saying =
all black people are - insert a stereotype -.
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by simply saying ( i don't sleep with black people ) doesn't mean she cant sleep with any other race, she did not deny you the right of fucking in interracial style, she simply did not practice her own about it regarding black people.
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having a sexual interest in something, doesn't mean anything outside the scope of that.
she doesn't disrespect black people, or think high of Asian dicks, she is just not sexually interested.
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how ever, i have a certain level of doubt that in porn industry, such statement like ( i don't sleep with - certain color ) is innocent, i believe it is due to fact that the performer herself, or the producer, may believe that the client base itself is filled with racist people ! and they might lose interest in this specific actress if she bedded a black dude ( i know it might sound a bit over ) but thats what i think is the reason.
commercially speaking, she might just be playing a marketing gimmick, creating a huge buzz or a certain brand about herself, so when she finally do it ...it goes viral !
like when some say = i don't do anal, and after 3 years they finally do it, it will be the highlight of her work.
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if it still bothers you, think about it this way =
sex, and sexuality, trumps anything !
some people sexually are not interested in fat people, that does not mean they treat them bad.
when it comes to what i like to call ( the realm of the bedroom ) preferences and such are OK.
this topic is like when people in their normal life, view rape as a crime, but in bed, they like a bit rape-play theme sex.
it doesn't mean that they are rapists, or full of shit, it just mean that they ( borrowed ) some taboo factors from the rape scenario, and sexually played with it concept.
so, one can have all respect to the other gender, and live a normal social life, but in bedroom realm, they dominate the living hell of the other gender and do all kinds of degrading things.
one person can be alpha in real life, but in bedroom realm they some times tend to give up power and engage in b.d.s.m
the novel ( 50 shades of Grey ) did provide us with some lights on such matters. ( that we have - soooooo - many levels of Grey, between our boundaries, that some times the playfulness itself become unclear and any fast judgment on it, or over thinking it, will lead to wrong assumptions and or struggle ).

[bluesoul]

it's kind of interesting to me how whenever someone mentions interracial porn, they immediately think you mean a black guy and a white girl. isn't a non asian male and an asian girl also interracial? or a non latin male with a latina interracial as well?

i guess in some way, even the idea of interracial porn hints to some kind of stigma. immediately a movie (mainstream or hardcore) features these words, one connotes the idea of a black male dominating a white female- and one begins to adjust accordingly: "i'm i attracted to this?" it's a strange set of parameters that we feel the need to announce.

in the same way, whenever a porn has this genre attached to it, it feels the need to fulfill a certain criteria. example: the "this is my first interracial experience" as though the situation will be vastly different strictly based on race usually perpetuating the bbc theory

the thing for me though, is i think the question is addressed to the wrong target. porn addresses the most of based appetite. i think the question should be asked "why do people still have this fascination with race?" after all, watching this for the sex? at least, i know that's why i'm watching

[Ben in LA]

Since porn is a fantasy, and I like to think I'm the one banging the chicks, I'm plenty satisfied with who Lex, Prince Yahshua, and Mandingo are fucking.

[LilyRox]

White guys mad. They call it bbc for a reason.

[nysprod]

Of course it's racist...however, from what I've seen, for every one white girl who won't there probably are ten that would so if I were a black man, I wouldn't let the one bother me at all.

[Jericho]

White guys mad. They call it bbc for a reason.


My mother's always liked bbc! :shrug
BBC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC)

[christianxxx]

for clarification - LA Direct Models doesn't tell their girls not to do IR scenes....they tell their girls to wait and use IR as a bargaining chip to make more money & do more scenes to extend their "career"

[fred41]

I can't deem a girl's reasons for not having sex with someone"racist" without being able read her thoughts...unless she explicitly gives me a racist reason. Reacting to sexual stimuli is often a complex reason. We don't always understand sexual attraction...we just go with it.



Some girls aren't attracted to black guys, but that doesn't mean they should deny them while doing porn. You're getting paid for a reason. This isn't about finding "true love".

Just because a person is willing to do porn...doesn't mean they should do all things in porn. I remember Steven mentioning once that he prefers to film girls doing what makes them comfortable....thereby more likely guaranteeing a good shoot (he was referring, I believe, to topping and bottoming). If a girl is uncomfortable shooting with someone, regardless of what the reason is, then they probably 'shouldn't' do it...you're not hiring Olivier to act his way through it. You also don't sell away all personal rights to your body just because you agree to do a few scenes in porn. That's just silly. If a woman doesn't do a scene you want -NEXT - find a woman that does.

[blueeyeboy]

Never really knew there was an issue with I.r scenes tbh......always thought it was v popular (i enjoy it), and that market forces dictated what girls did/didn't do.

[crystalsopen]

White guys mad. They call it bbc for a reason.

I have been with 2 black guys. One had bbc :D, but one didn't :heartbroken:.

[crystalsopen]

...
What are your thoughts on the matter?
Personally, I have said this many times , but I still don't get racial fetishes.

[LilyRox]

Just because a person is willing to do porn...doesn't mean they should do all things in porn. I remember Steven mentioning once that he prefers to film girls doing what makes them comfortable....thereby more likely guaranteeing a good shoot (he was referring, I believe, to topping and bottoming). If a girl is uncomfortable shooting with someone, regardless of what the reason is, then they probably 'shouldn't' do it...you're not hiring Olivier to act his way through it. You also don't sell away all personal rights to your body just because you agree to do a few scenes in porn. That's just silly. If a woman doesn't do a scene you want -NEXT - find a woman that does.

I'm mostly talking about straight porn as I don't watch tg porn. Porn has some of the worst acting with girl on guy scenes. Half the scenes you can tell the girl is just faking it the entire time (really bad), but if a black guy walks on set, aw hell naw she ain't doing shit. So it's ok for girls to fuck white guys they aren't attracted to, but they don't fuck black guys they aren't attracted to.

[I_made_linda_lovelace_gag]

blacks have a higher rate of STDs. thats probably the real reason they wont fuck them. while asians have a lower rate than whites. so that could be a reason a woman would fuck a asian and not a black.

[wiltthestilt]

There is no answer to this question. People have different thresholds for what they consider racist. Refusing to see men of a particular race is a preference. Exercising that preference is discrimination. Labeling an act of discrimination "racism" is expressing moral disapproval of that act of discrimination.

I don't consider it racist but if others do that is their prerogative.

[wiltthestilt]

Let me say I always laugh when girl on girl porn is consider part of the straight porn community if the women look like lipstick lesbians. In reality its gay porn. Gay porn is looked down upon because it involves two men. But is gay porn. I never got it but there you go. Like I said porn while entertaining has a lot of people's own prejudice. Sad, but true.

I know you hope the more of discussion the more people's opinion will change, but the way society is moving call me cynical, but it will get worst before it gets better.

The reason why lesbian or bisexual (FFM) porn is considered "straight" porn is because, for the most part, it's marketed toward straight men. For the same reason, a solo masturbation scene, if a female, is "straight" porn, and if a man, is "gay" porn. The categories serve a commercial and not a descriptive purpose.

[nysprod]

I can't deem a girl's reasons for not having sex with someone"racist" without being able read her thoughts...unless she explicitly gives me a racist reason. Reacting to sexual stimuli is often a complex reason. We don't always understand sexual attraction...we just go with it.

I think if a girl makes a blanket statement like she's not doing any black guys, that in and of itself is racist.

[TSPornFan]

Of course it's racist...however, from what I've seen, for every one white girl who won't there probably are ten that would so if I were a black man, I wouldn't let the one bother me at all.

Nope, you're very off. It's the other way around. For every girl who will do a black man there are 10 who will not sleep with one in porn.


for clarification - LA Direct Models doesn't tell their girls not to do IR scenes....they tell their girls to wait and use IR as a bargaining chip to make more money & do more scenes to extend their "career"

Sorry Christian, even you should know how much bullshit that is. LA Direct Models have a long history of few to zero girls who do IR.

Let's look at their IR girls. You can see their list is full of BS. First off two black women Sophia Fire and Ivy Sherwood are on the IR list. How in the hell is black on black interracial?

Let's look further! Tory Lane, Courtney Cummz, Tara Lynn Fox, Jacky Joy, Darla Cane, and McKenizee Lee were doing IR before joining LA Direct Models. Lexi Belle is the ONLY girl from LA Direct Models to wait to be featured in an IR film. LA Direct Models have five unknown girls who do IR. That's a total of 12 girls, 6 who were doing it before joining LA Direct Models.

Using IR as a bargaining chip is racist and offensive. It is NOT a step or a glorification to finally have sex with a black man. It should not be a money hungry business tactic. Do you see black women using it as a bargaining chip when sleeping with white men? NO. Do you see Latinas using it as a bargaining chip when sleeping with men? NO. Girls do not use a bargaining chip to get paid more to sleep with Hispanic and Asian men.

[Bark]

This has been a very popular topic in the straight porn community. As many of you know that many genetic females in straight porn do not perform in interracial scenes with black men. There are also some TS pornstars who also do not perform in scenes with black men. This isn't an issue in TS porn due to the lack of available black male talent.

I once believed that these women were not racist. They weren't sexually interested in black men and they have every right to fuck with whoever they want to. However, my feelings as a black man on the subject are shifting. I'm more on the fence at the moment and maybe you guys can influence my current stance.

Agents, directors, and producers discourage girls from doing interracial porn. Some porn agencies such as LA Direct Models are famous for having few to no girls who will shoot scenes with black men. We also have girls as I said who are not sexually interested in black men.

Here is my problem that has affected my former stance on the subject. These same women who do not have sex with black men are more than willing to sleep with a man from any other race. I have a hard time believing that such a large group of women will say yes to a White man, Asian man, Hispanic man, and Native American man and will say no to a black man. It's like working with 100 women at your large office job and 88 women will fuck with every guy regardless of his color except your racial group. I can see some people being attracted to everyone except for one racial group. I just can't see a large population having those sexual preferences.

Of course we have girls who will say they date and fuck black men in their personal lives. Some will go as far as saying that they don't care about the dick's color. Yet, they have been in the business for years and never let a black man touch them. Then there are some who say they dislike how IR porn is portrayed and that is understandable until you learn that they own a site to shoot the type of IR content that is acceptable to them.

What are your thoughts on the matter?
I feel like you do, you are allowed to like what you like. Its racist to say your a bigot for not wanting anyone black to deal with. I dislike Black Transsexual or shemales, its just a preference. Never go against what you like because you are making yourself miserable to please someone you may not like.

I do have black friends but I am sure they have feelings of Whitisms, I don't judge them for it because its all good to have an opinion even if its bad. I am also Part part Mexican so I am partial Latino.

Your not a Racist for not choosing Black, i wouldn't respect you if you did pick black and it was against your preference. Don't compromise, be who you are.

[holyshit]

Maybe big black is just too scary for someone :D

http://images.sex.com/images/pinporn/2013/06/29/620/3066516-huge-cock.jpg


Its big in porn but in real life, is this a stereotype?

[TSPornFan]

I'm mostly talking about straight porn as I don't watch tg porn. Porn has some of the worst acting with girl on guy scenes. Half the scenes you can tell the girl is just faking it the entire time (really bad), but if a black guy walks on set, aw hell naw she ain't doing shit. So it's ok for girls to fuck white guys they aren't attracted to, but they don't fuck black guys they aren't attracted to.

Pretty much this. Agents ask girls if they are willing to do anal, G/g, B/g, IR, etc. They do NOT ask girls if they are willing to fuck with Whites, Native Americans, Hispanics, Asians, etc. However, they DO ask girls if they are willing to sleep with black men and strongly discourage them if they want black cock.

Agents expect girls to fuck with any guy who is at the shot unless the guy is on her NO List.

Some girls give the piss poor excuse that they will lose money if they let black guys fuck them. This is a laughable lie when the top pornstars Lisa Ann, Asa Akira, Chanel Preston, Julia Ann, and many others remained at the top. Brooklyn Chase is on her way to becoming a legend and she started right out of the gate in IR films. In fact Bonnie Rotten is the first woman to win AVN performer of the year in many years who refuses to shoot IR scenes.

[TSPornFan]

Its big in porn but in real life, is this a stereotype?

Not really. African American men have the largest penis size average in the country.

[rodinuk]

Please supply your factual sources for these type of assertions when making them otherwise they won't stand :geek:



blacks have a higher rate of STDs. thats probably the real reason they wont fuck them. while asians have a lower rate than whites. so that could be a reason a woman would fuck a asian and not a black.


Not really. African American men have the largest penis size average in the country.

[LilyRox]

Please supply your factual sources for these type of assertions when making them otherwise they won't stand :geek:

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/333932

[TSPornFan]

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/333932

Thank You

[daltx_m]

Please supply your factual sources for these type of assertions when making them otherwise they won't stand :geek:

A quick google search brings up several reports from the CDC.
Looks who's on top. So girls are just playing the odds when then deny.

[NYBURBS]

I think if you google a bit you'll find discussions about how a significant number of white men dislike watching a girl that has been with black men. I think that opposition leads some girls to avoid the risk of alienating her fan base by doing IR porn.

Now you can get into a whole different discussion of why some white guys have that stance. A part of it is probably due to racism, another part perhaps due to how it is presented (basically that it takes a bbc to really satisfy a woman, etc). There's also the whole fantasy end of it, some people are more able to relate or imagine themselves as the guy in the scene when they look more like him, and skin color is obviously a big part of that.

[livepersona]

Not racist. I would say it's a preference. Everyone has the right to choose what they will or won't do on camera.

[I_made_linda_lovelace_gag]

I have never seen that proven that IR lowers your pay.

[Tapatio]

People should have sex- or not- with whomever they choose.

Being paid doesn't override that.

Your commoditizing someone else's ass. If you want someone to surrender agency, give it a try for yourself.

[TSPornFan]

Not racist. I would say it's a preference. Everyone has the right to choose what they will or won't do on camera.

I agree everyone has the right to choose what and who they will or won't do on camera. However, can you honestly believe that so many women in an industry are turned on by every race except for blacks? I don't believe this is about sexual preference for some of these women.

[Bark]

I agree everyone has the right to choose what and who they will or won't do on camera. However, can you honestly believe that so many women in an industry are turned on by every race except for blacks? I don't believe this is about sexual preference for some of these women.
I see what your saying again, is it funny?. The point you send me is that you found it funny that not many like Black partners. I am sort of glad it doesn't outnumber what i love if shemales of every other kind. I would be completely turned off if there were more black in or are black or black shemale. This fetish, fantasy and love of shemale, transgender would not be worth enjoying anymore for me.

This is just something that is, it can't be helped. You cant stand up for others if its not an issue?.

[notdrunk]

A quick google search brings up several reports from the CDC.
Looks who's on top. So girls are just playing the odds when then deny.

So, don't engage in unprotected sex with a random untested black person in the sex trade? Just engage in unprotected sex with a random untested white person in the sex trade? Got it!

[GroobySteven]

Not really. African American men have the largest penis size average in the country.

They also have the average smallest.

[alpha2117]

From a consumer point of view I dont like black male actors as much but that's largely because I prefer to blank the males out and put myself in their place - if the male talent is substantially different to myself that's not easy to do. I think a big reason Ron Jeremy was so popular is that he was very much Joe Average - a little paunchy, not ugly but not handsome either etc. I'm fine with inter-racial if the girl is black.

From a worker point of view I'm sure there are a whole raft of reasons many of them mentioned previously. If a girl doesn't want to do the deed with someone thats her choice.

[Jericho]

They also have the average smallest.


That's gotta suck balls! :shrug

[Tapatio]

I don't believe this is about sexual preference for some of these women.

Let's assume you're right- and not just in some cases, but all cases.
Every woman who refuses to sleep with a black guy is racist.

Now what? What do you want?

I'd prefer people not be racist but I think our ability to control who we share our bodies with trumps that.

What do you want?

[daltx_m]

Let's assume you're right- and not just in some cases, but all cases.
Every woman who refuses to sleep with a black guy is racist.

Now what? What do you want?

I'd prefer people not be racist but I think our ability to control who we share our bodies with trumps that.

What do you want?

maybe we could all hold hands in a circle and sing kumbaya.

[trish]

Depends on her reasons. Is it racist for a porn actress to refuse parts in IR porn films because she finds the genre to be racist?

[bluesoul]

Let's assume you're right- and not just in some cases, but all cases.
Every woman who refuses to sleep with a black guy is racist.

Now what? What do you want?

I'd prefer people not be racist but I think our ability to control who we share our bodies with trumps that.

What do you want?

well, then isn't it question of why?

not too long, there was a member of the kkk who was caught having extramarital relations with a black man (http://gawker.com/accused-kkk-killer-was-once-arrested-for-sex-with-a-bla-1567041921). now is this man still racist, or does his having sex with a black man nullify his racism? or could we argue that it's possible he's only racist towards jewish individuals even though homosexuals and black individuals are considered "the enemy" by members of his organization

[Tapatio]

maybe we could all hold hands in a circle and sing kumbaya.

A kumbaya circle jerk?

[Tapatio]

well, then isn't it question of why?

not too long, there was a member of the kkk who was caught having extramarital relations with a black man (http://gawker.com/accused-kkk-killer-was-once-arrested-for-sex-with-a-bla-1567041921). now is this man still racist, or does his having sex with a black man nullify his racism? or could we argue that it's possible he's only racist towards jewish individuals even though homosexuals and black individuals are considered "the enemy" by members of his organization

Still racist, I think. Interesting question.

We could expand this thread to include self-loathing peeps of all kinds.

[TopKat]

can everyone just fuck everyone? so we can all be the same race. that will solve this problem

[Ben in LA]

can everyone just fuck everyone? so we can all be the same race. that will solve this problem

It's happening little by little...

[jamesedwards]

No it's not racist if a person doesn't want to sleep with so called Black or Hispanic people. You have the right to sleep with whoever you want, that's not racism, obvious people don't know the true meaning of racism and it doesn't mean hating another race or ethnicity. If I said I don't like Hispanics that means I hate them it's not racism.

Racism is a social ill that begins with a race OPPRESSING ANOTHER RACE by depriving them economics, social, political and education rights while they oppress them. Like slavery did in America that was racism because the Caucasians did those four ills to African people. They were not called Black people, that is a new term that the NAACP chose to agree with the Caucasian gov. of the US to classify, identify and give as a status. In the language of the legal word this is a serious term that's why those of African descent has raised the question about using the word black on our people.

I can go on for days but that's real racism coming from a scholarly point of past history.




This has been a very popular topic in the straight porn community. As many of you know that many genetic females in straight porn do not perform in interracial scenes with black men. There are also some TS pornstars who also do not perform in scenes with black men. This isn't an issue in TS porn due to the lack of available black male talent.

I once believed that these women were not racist. They weren't sexually interested in black men and they have every right to fuck with whoever they want to. However, my feelings as a black man on the subject are shifting. I'm more on the fence at the moment and maybe you guys can influence my current stance.

Agents, directors, and producers discourage girls from doing interracial porn. Some porn agencies such as LA Direct Models are famous for having few to no girls who will shoot scenes with black men. We also have girls as I said who are not sexually interested in black men.

Here is my problem that has affected my former stance on the subject. These same women who do not have sex with black men are more than willing to sleep with a man from any other race. I have a hard time believing that such a large group of women will say yes to a White man, Asian man, Hispanic man, and Native American man and will say no to a black man. It's like working with 100 women at your large office job and 88 women will fuck with every guy regardless of his color except your racial group. I can see some people being attracted to everyone except for one racial group. I just can't see a large population having those sexual preferences.

Of course we have girls who will say they date and fuck black men in their personal lives. Some will go as far as saying that they don't care about the dick's color. Yet, they have been in the business for years and never let a black man touch them. Then there are some who say they dislike how IR porn is portrayed and that is understandable until you learn that they own a site to shoot the type of IR content that is acceptable to them.

What are your thoughts on the matter?

[jamesedwards]

can everyone just fuck everyone? so we can all be the same race. that will solve this problem

Hold up you think fucking different races is going to solve the race issue? Did you even think about what you said before you said it? Kim Kardashian just was on TV and she was in another Country as a guest and they used black face towards her pointed towards Kanye. They are married and that happened. So ummmmm did it solve anything? No! Fucking is not going to solve that, it's bigger than just fucking. smh

[JerseyMike]

This question is misogynistic. It basically assumes that a man of any color has the right to have sex with any woman. If that woman refuses then she's a racist.

[TopKat]

what i meant was that if eveyone reproduced with everyone else at some point all children will look the same. and if they look the same then they can hate each other for the people that they are not hate each other based on outwards appearance.....:cheers:

also, i have a black roommate that only sleeps with white girls. i dont think he is racist, i think he is being silly, but not racist.

[TopKat]

jerseymike: a man does have the right to want to have sex with any woman he likes. and she has the right to accept his advances or tell him to 'take a hike'. that is freedom, not misogyny.

[TopKat]

jerseymike: i apologize. i read your statement incorrectly. you are right. a woman does have to right to refuse any man that she wants. that is her freedom. yes you are right. sorry....whoops

[richyyy]

Depends on her reasons. Is it racist for a porn actress to refuse parts in IR porn films because she finds the genre to be racist?

I wanted to chime in and expand on what's been said about the IR genre as a whole. Whenever IR is mentioned it's mostly depicted as black male on white female. Almost every thumbnail category for porn sites show this. Absolutely no problem there, most videos are actually black male on white female. Again, nothing wrong although I would like to see a better mix.

It's when you watch a lot of these black on white videos, the focus of interracial sex is always put across in a very racist way. Rather than portraying 2 humans of different race having sex, they usually stigmatize a race, therefore producing a novelty fetish to create the idea that the act of interracial is taboo to a certain extent. In most cases, fabricating this idea that sex with a black person is frowned upon so it's naughty is in and of itself racist.

I watched a glory hole scene with a black male, while next to him for no reason is a flaccid white guy with a small dick. Why is that when there are just as many hung white male talent? Common varieties of IR are cuckolding or incestual voyeurism of family members viewing their relatives in IR sex. The common theme throughout portrays white female talent talking about not being satisfied by white guys, consequently trivialising the only reasons another race would want to get with a black guy is because of their dick size.

Shane Diesel is a primary cause of this who gets white females to call him a n*gger on shoots, filling the racist fantasy of white women wanting black males for sex, but not for anything else. Like jamesedwards said, the fact a black guy is fucking a white woman doesn't change the social stance overall, especially when the aforementioned fantasy revolves around the white female being a fucking racist.

To me, the interracial genre is dominated by extremely racist stroylines that perpetuate the idea of separation of races. For arguments sake as a white dude, if I was a porn star and was offered to do a scene with a black girl I would have zero problems. However, if the scene was going to be me dominating her because of her race where you hear either of us referring to her as a "useless n*gger cum bucket" like I hear in reverse roles, that shit makes me feel physically sick and should have no place in the industry.

[trish]

Nicely done, richyyy.

[MichealMichealsMichealson]

Let's call a spade a spade here:

Porn geared toward white heterosexual men capitalizes on the idea of domination as a vessel (one of many) for arousal.
Women must show a loss of privilege or that effect is nullified.

IR porn as a fetish exemplifies this effect in one direction. A white woman fucking a black man who dominates her with a massive penis is her surrendering her white privilege in lieu of "animalistic" sexual urges. Likewise a white man fucking a black woman is him dominating the "bestial" as slave owners/colonial masters used to do when they felt entitled to the bodies of black people. This is the formula that guarantees IR popularity, because porn is an industry, and IR has specific requirements to meet for customer satisfaction.

US-made porn identifies it's biggest market as straight white men and the most popular IR pornographies are the ones that monopolize the "domination" factor. That is how the industry is.

Is it racist? Most definitely, as an art form it depicts black people so devoid of privilege and sexual integrity that engaging in intercourse with them will result in the loss of one's own sexual privilege. This specific fetish harnesses viewer arousal through racial-based domination.

If a white woman does not want to have sex with a black man, that is her choice. Her motivation might be racially based, but her choice is her choice, end of. We cannot intercept her control of her body no matter how we judge her reasoning.

Likewise, an adult entertainer that doesn't want to do a black man but will insert a twelve inch dildo all the way in, is probably racist. But her choice is still her choice.

Agencies telling their clients not to fuck black men in order to prolong their careers are making financial decisions within a racist framework.

[bluesoul]

what i meant was that if eveyone reproduced with everyone else at some point all children will look the same. and if they look the same then they can hate each other for the people that they are not hate each other based on outwards appearance.....:cheers:


isn't technically what you're saying that we should be all one race?

not sure whether you know the history of australia, but they tried to do with the aboriginal people by putting them in settlement camps in an attempt to breed them as "half-castes" where they'd work as laborers and servants to white families, regarded as a "good" situation for them in life- then eventually married to white people in an attempt to create one race: a white race.

Stolen Generations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations)


I wanted to chime in and expand on what's been said about the IR genre as a whole. Whenever IR is mentioned it's mostly depicted as black male on white female. Almost every thumbnail category for porn sites show this. Absolutely no problem there, most videos are actually black male on white female. Again, nothing wrong although I would like to see a better mix.

unfortunately, this is more a reflection of our society than it is on porn. remember, porn is only supposed to make us jerk off. some people are actually turned on by the scenarios you just illustrated above like cuckold porn.

in fact, one of my friends only buys this kind of porn. if such a person did not exist, no company would make this type of porn. after all, who would buy it?

btw: has anyone noticed: if you look under the "asian" category of pornography, you're likely to find asian women with non asian men (interracial) yet it's never considered as such as it simply exploits the female. same goes for "latin".

so this tells us most of our society (american) has a certain definition of what interracial means

[bluesoul]

Likewise, an adult entertainer that doesn't want to do a black man but will insert a twelve inch dildo all the way in, is probably racist. But her choice is still her choice.

there was a girl who did (perhaps still does) porn that said she didn't do IR because her boyfriend didn't let her. her boyfriend was a black man.

i think one thing we've all not recognized here is that we're looking at porn to guide our moral compass. if we consider that porn is acting, then who a girl choses to performs with can be regarded as just that, a person she wants to act a scene with and isn't a reflection of whom she'd love.

btw: your example choose to infer that the twelve inch dildo may be representative of a black penis. is it impossible that a white or latin male can have a similarly sized penis? aren't john holmes and jeff stryker considered the biggest cocks in the industry?

[LongTom101]

Let's call a spade a spade here:

Porn geared toward white heterosexual men capitalizes on the idea of domination as a vessel (one of many) for arousal.
Women must show a loss of privilege or that effect is nullified.

IR porn as a fetish exemplifies this effect in one direction. A white woman fucking a black man who dominates her with a massive penis is her surrendering her white privilege in lieu of "animalistic" sexual urges. Likewise a white man fucking a black woman is him dominating the "bestial" as slave owners/colonial masters used to do when they felt entitled to the bodies of black people. This is the formula that guarantees IR popularity, because porn is an industry, and IR has specific requirements to meet for customer satisfaction.

US-made porn identifies it's biggest market as straight white men and the most popular IR pornographies are the ones that monopolize the "domination" factor. That is how the industry is.

Is it racist? Most definitely, as an art form it depicts black people so devoid of privilege and sexual integrity that engaging in intercourse with them will result in the loss of one's own sexual privilege. This specific fetish harnesses viewer arousal through racial-based domination.

If a white woman does not want to have sex with a black man, that is her choice. Her motivation might be racially based, but her choice is her choice, end of. We cannot intercept her control of her body no matter how we judge her reasoning.

Likewise, an adult entertainer that doesn't want to do a black man but will insert a twelve inch dildo all the way in, is probably racist. But her choice is still her choice.

Agencies telling their clients not to fuck black men in order to prolong their careers are making financial decisions within a racist framework.

Couldnt have stated it better myself

[TopKat]

@bluesoul: i am not suggesting forced breeding mate. i was trying to make a joke that if everyone organically IR dated there would be a point were everyone would be the same and it would solve the problem.

i know this is not likely, i know this is very hypothetical and it was not meant to be taken seriously...

[TopKat]

i am a white man and i like some black women. i dont think it is because i want to be a slave owner. i think it is because i like women and some women are black so by simple probability i should be attracted to some black women. no? also i dont think there were very many(none) Polish slave owners in the south.

[bluesoul]

@bluesoul: i am not suggesting forced breeding mate. i was trying to make a joke that if everyone organically IR dated there would be a point were everyone would be the same and it would solve the problem..

i see what you're saying now. although you forgot to include erasing religions as well, coz if you remember that world war 2 diversion, religion had a big role besides the usual "we're not equal because of religion" thing

just a thought :D


also i dont think there were very many(none) Polish slave owners in the south.

what does that mean?

[TopKat]

someone said that white man on black woman porn is a slave master/slave scenario. and i am Polish. we were late arrivals to america. after the slave days. so i do not connect to that scenario at all..... i am just attracted to some black women.

and racism is present if the a company tells its escorts to avoid black men.

[bluesoul]

someone said that white man on black woman porn is a slave master/slave scenario. and i am Polish. we were late arrivals to america. after the slave days. so i do not connect to that scenario at all.....

lucky. i'm half english, and half american, so i connect to this scenario :heartbroken: