Do TS women prefer dudes who are bottoms

[FreddieGomez]

I'm curious to know since I'm a top myself but it seems 99.9% of dudes into TS women are BOTTOMS and TS escorts especially seem to enjoy it....so does this mean they prefer bottoms dudes over top dudes? I kind of get frustrated because I'm not at all interested in being a bottom and it that's your thing, then do you...but I feel like I shouldn't even be attracted to TS women if I'm a top dude because it's over run by bottoms galore, which i have nothing in common with and don't want to. I don't know what happened to the real TS women who are bottoms.!:dead-1:

[cassieukts]

I prefer men to be top

[saifan]

I'm curious to know since I'm a top myself but it seems 99.9% of dudes into TS women are BOTTOMS and TS escorts especially seem to enjoy it....so does this mean they prefer bottoms dudes over top dudes? I kind of get frustrated because I'm not at all interested in being a bottom and it that's your thing, then do you...but I feel like I shouldn't even be attracted to TS women if I'm a top dude because it's over run by bottoms galore, which i have nothing in common with and don't want to. I don't know what happened to the real TS women who are bottoms.!:dead-1:

Really? I wouldn't base your percentage on the posters at this board.

I think from the escort perspective topping has less "wear and tear".

[Jericho]

I'm curious to know since I'm a top myself but it seems 99.9% of dudes into TS women are BOTTOMS and TS escorts especially seem to enjoy it....so does this mean they prefer bottoms dudes over top dudes? I kind of get frustrated because I'm not at all interested in being a bottom and it that's your thing, then do you...but I feel like I shouldn't even be attracted to TS women if I'm a top dude because it's over run by bottoms galore, which i have nothing in common with and don't want to. I don't know what happened to the real TS women who are bottoms.!

I think someone might be trying a little bit too hard.
Who ya trying to convince?
We don't care! :shrug

[nysprod]

Ts escorts will tell you that the money is in topping...but when they're on CL looking for a stud, they want someone to pound them out good.

[daBXitalian]

I would say that most escorts will do whatever you want as long as two things happen:
1. They are comfortable with it. If the escort is totally a top then there's no way she's going to bottom for you; and if she's totally a bottom she's going to have a hard time topping you because you know, science. If she's vers but leans one way more then the other then it all come down to....
2. Money is the name of the game.

[nysprod]

Could be wrong but I don't think a real trans girl can be a total top, although there are escorts who won't bottom for various reasons (boyfriend) which have nothing to do with personal preferences.

[BBaggins06]

This must be Freddy's week to be a complete dumbass. Franklin has the next shift ...

[stejav]

Ts escorts will tell you that the money is in topping...but when they're on CL looking for a stud, they want someone to pound them out good.

You are absolutely right!

[Silcc69]

Freddie my nigga you have been posting this same shit for years. I'm sure you there is a shit ton of bottom girls in NY.

[canihavu]

It has been my experience with the TS women I have met that they are either versatile or bottoms. I have come across a few who didn't even like having orla sex performed on them.

[Prospero]

Of course not. They are transsexuals for goodness sake. They are women.
With TVs its a whole other ball game (excuse the pun)

[stejav]

Of course not. They are transsexuals for goodness sake. They are women.
With TVs its a whole other ball game (excuse the pun)

As much as i respect your view and we all would agree on that but the truth of the matter is that they are not women for goodness sake and every transsexual was a TV at one point.

[Teydyn]

Could be wrong but I don't think a real trans girl can be a total top
So a top only tgirl is not a REAL tgirl?

[cassieukts]

As i have said on other posts i wouldnt want a bottom guy as a partner. i am the fuckee not the fucker lol

[Tapatio]

I like that Prospero just spoke for - and defined- all TS women.

Way to take away their agency, patriarch.

[my my my!]

As much as i respect your view and we all would agree on that but the truth of the matter is that they are not women for goodness sake and every transsexual was a TV at one point.

you are so wrong , on so many levels.

what an Insult to the ladies here, and outside of HA , that they were all "TV" at one point.

[nysprod]

So a top only tgirl is not a REAL tgirl?

Are you talking about an escort or a girl in her personal life?

[Prospero]

Tapatio. I know a large number of transsexual girls - and have read even more comments here. 99 % prefer to be passive though many are prepared to be tops - for money especially (in view of the huge demand for that) and, sometimes, out of affection for their partners.

I know of two TS escorts in London - one now retired - who insist they will never transition and who prefer the active role. But they are, i submit, the exception that proves the rule.

One more girl who escorts told me while she sees herself as a woman and in her private life totally prefers the passive role when working prefers the active role. She says she is thus more in control of things.

And sorry, but they are women. It is an insult to describe them otherwise IMHO. I have no desire to "take away their agency" I'd love to har more from the girls themselves.

Liberty for instance prefers to top - with females. not with guys i believe.

[Marty Mcfly]

Right a top only T girl just does this for the money.A Real T girl wants to live as a female therefore she must at all tes bottom as her asshole is her only pussy..

[AshlynCreamher]

I think I'm starting to hate these words:

A real tgirl
A true transwoman

[giovanni_hotel]

Freddie my nigga you have been posting this same shit for years. I'm sure you there is a shit ton of bottom girls in NY.

Truth.

IMO you find what you're looking for.

I just move on if a girl is too insistent about topping and she isn't willing to bottom for me.

That said, I've rarely met a TS who won't bottom. I've met TS who won't swallow cum or don't want you to go down on them.


But not bottom?? That's not really a problem.

[stejav]

you are so wrong , on so many levels.

what an Insult to the ladies here, and outside of HA , that they were all "TV" at one point.

Here we go with the "insults" when the truth is spoken, I mean they weren't born as transsexuals were they? They had to go through a transition didn't they? So what kind of insult am I making when I said what I said?

[giovanni_hotel]

Here we go with the "insults" when the truth is spoken, I mean they weren't born as transsexuals were they? They had to go through a transition didn't they? So what kind of insult am I making when I said what I said?

Transsexualism is a psychological/brain disorder. The fact that their natal sex organs don't match their gender identity is secondary.

So in fact yes, TS were born that way.

it still blows my mind that there are dudes on this board who don't have a firm grasp on what gender dysmorphia or transgenderism really is and still think TVs/CDs are interchangeable with TS/TG.

[Ts RedVeX]

I think most of you need to apply more stochastic patterns of perception..

[LibertyHarkness]

where can i buy one of these Real Tgirls ?

[Marty Mcfly]

I dont see them suffering from severe mental illness in all cases,I feel some were really ment to girls..If they have soft fem voices,Small feet and toes and bottom they are ladies in mens bodies.

[NYBURBS]

LOL this again

[crystalsopen]

So a top only tgirl is not a REAL tgirl?
Sexual preference and preferred sex role do not define gender identity. :tongue:

[Torris]

I guess you and me Freddie are in that .1% who don't care to see men play catcher as opposed to pitcher.

I don't know where that leaves the rest of you

As for TS escorts preferring to top, if I make an uninformed assumption, wouldn't they prefer to bottom? While at work

Seems like less (sex) work to be passive where you could entertain multiple clients in a night or shift as opposed to having to get hard and get off topping once, maybe twice in the same time?

[LibertyHarkness]

yes work perspective much easier to bottom for guys ... problem is when the guys are thirsty to see some cum fly ...

[crystalsopen]

Right a top only T girl just does this for the money.A Real T girl wants to live as a female therefore she must at all tes bottom as her asshole is her only pussy..
Speaking as a versatile Tgirl, our sexuality is just more complicated than that.
And sexuality for tgirls varies a lot from person to person.

For me: Yes I want a vag, mostly because I want all matching girl parts. I consider myself female and want to be seen as female in every way. But a surgically constructed vag, to me, doesn't quite the same and its crazy expensive. Being perceived and treated as my try true self is what is important to me. The "plumbing" is secondary to me. Additionally, people have different personalities as lovers. I am a giver or a pleaser, so I derive the most pleasure form giving pleasure my partner. But I still have nerve endings in my penis and prostate, so topping and bottoming do feel good. As far as getting hard, that is all about affection and connection toward my partner. I also need to be relaxed, hydrated, and with good blood sugar for it to work, but I don't want to digress too much.

[LibertyHarkness]

I dont see them suffering from severe mental illness in all cases,I feel some were really ment to girls..If they have soft fem voices,Small feet and toes and bottom they are ladies in mens bodies.

so what about genetic women that are tall, built like mick the trucker ? are they meant to be men ideally ?

[Marty Mcfly]

Cumming is hot,Shecocks can be hot too.

[Torris]

where can i buy one of these Real Tgirls ?


Somehow I don't think this what you are referring to

[Marty Mcfly]

Transsexualism is a psychological/brain disorder. The fact that their natal sex organs don't match their gender identity is secondary.

So in fact yes, TS were born that way.

it still blows my mind that there are dudes on this board who don't have a firm grasp on what gender dysmorphia or transgenderism really is and still think TVs/CDs are interchangeable with TS/TG.


so what about genetic women that are tall, built like mick the trucker ? are they meant to be men ideally ?
Yes I feel butch females are a DNA mix up.Just for the record...You are very pretty
Havent heard your voice yet.

[Torris]

Speaking as a versatile Tgirl, our sexuality is just more complicated than that.
And sexuality for tgirls varies a lot from person to person.

For me: Yes I want a vag, mostly because I want all matching girl parts. I consider myself female and want to be seen as female in every way. But a surgically constructed vag, to me, doesn't quite the same and its crazy expensive. Being perceived and treated as my try true self is what is important to me. The "plumbing" is secondary to me. Additionally, people have different personalities as lovers. I am a giver or a pleaser, so I derive the most pleasure form giving pleasure my partner. But I still have nerve endings in my penis and prostate, so topping and bottoming do feel good. As far as getting hard, that is all about affection and connection toward my partner. I also need to be relaxed, hydrated, and with good blood sugar for it to work, but I don't want to digress too much.
Digress away. Your description of what flips your switch got me hot

[Tapatio]

Speaking as a versatile Tgirl, our sexuality is just more complicated than that.
And sexuality for tgirls varies a lot from person to person.




Well said.

Crystal, your "sorry I'm still here" blog entry worries me. I wish you the best.

[Karabella]

I'm curious to know since I'm a top myself but it seems 99.9% of dudes into TS women are BOTTOMS and TS escorts especially seem to enjoy it....so does this mean they prefer bottoms dudes over top dudes? I kind of get frustrated because I'm not at all interested in being a bottom and it that's your thing, then do you...but I feel like I shouldn't even be attracted to TS women if I'm a top dude because it's over run by bottoms galore, which i have nothing in common with and don't want to. I don't know what happened to the real TS women who are bottoms.!:dead-1:

Could be wrong but I don't think a real trans girl can be a total top, although there are escorts who won't bottom for various reasons (boyfriend) which have nothing to do with personal preferences.

Right a top only T girl just does this for the money.A Real T girl wants to live as a female therefore she must at all tes bottom as her asshole is her only pussy..



... and THAT is exactly why so many REAL TGIRLS don't come on this forum anymore.

Not sure why so many people (the vast majority being 'top' men) feel they have the right to define what determines a "REAL TGIRL".

Let's switch it, up shall we? Most people outside of HA would say that you 3 aren't straight or even REAL MEN, just because of your attraction to trans women. Regardless of whether you're a top or a bottom. Hence why you secretly come to HA to discuss your attraction to trans women. It's a place where you can safely discuss the taboo that gets you off. You certainly can't discuss this with your boys, your dad, your brother, or ever your gf, because they wouldn't understand. Granted, we all know they are wrong about their opinions of trans women and the men who are attracted to us. Having said that, why would you turn HA into a place that isn't safe for trans women who are tops and men who bottom for us?

For the record, I am a top. For work AND in real life. I can assure you I am not just a REAL TGIRL, but I am also a REAL WOMAN. Going further, I have the legal documents (License, Passport, etc) to reflect my gender. Female is who I am, not what I practice. Therefore what turns me on, and what I do in bed changes absolutely nothing.

It's pretty hypocritical that some people think bottoming for a tgirl is much different then fucking a tgirl while their balls smack on hers.

On that note, once again (like so many other tgirls) I'm seriously wondering if it's worth logging in here anymore.

XOXO
-K

[Prospero]

a sad truth and well said Karabella

[gaysian71]

You are a real woman, and an angel. And now I'm in love. :) :) :)



... and THAT is exactly why so many REAL TGIRLS don't come on this forum anymore.

Not sure why so many people (the vast majority being 'top' men) feel they have the right to define what determines a "REAL TGIRL".

Let's switch it, up shall we? Most people outside of HA would say that you 3 aren't straight or even REAL MEN, just because of your attraction to trans women. Regardless of whether you're a top or a bottom. Hence why you secretly come to HA to discuss your attraction to trans women. It's a place where you can safely discuss the taboo that gets you off. You certainly can't discuss this with your boys, your dad, your brother, or ever your gf, because they wouldn't understand. Granted, we all know they are wrong about their opinions of trans women and the men who are attracted to us. Having said that, why would you turn HA into a place that isn't safe for trans women who are tops and men who bottom for us?

For the record, I am a top. For work AND in real life. I can assure you I am not just a REAL TGIRL, but I am also a REAL WOMAN. Going further, I have the legal documents (License, Passport, etc) to reflect my gender. Female is who I am, not what I practice. Therefore what turns me on, and what I do in bed changes absolutely nothing.

It's pretty hypocritical that some people think bottoming for a tgirl is much different then fucking a tgirl while their balls smack on hers.

On that note, once again (like so many other tgirls) I'm seriously wondering if it's worth logging in here anymore.

XOXO
-K

[nysprod]

What i said was not meant to be judgemental in any way...however, it wasn't the smartest thing to say by a longshot so i stand corrected, carry on and have a great day.

[Jericho]

Let's switch it, up shall we? Most people outside of HA would say that you 3 aren't straight or even REAL MEN, just because of your attraction to trans women.

That is very well said.
There's a few cunts around here who would do well to remember that, when they start getting uppity! :shrug

And speaking of remembering, i remember who are/were now (yeah, i know, I'm slow), welcome back to HA.

[BBc34]

Have u ever been fucked ? im just curious

[crystalsopen]

Well said.

Crystal, your "sorry I'm still here" blog entry worries me. I wish you the best.
I didn't mean to worry anyone, so I took that down. I was tired, stressed, worried about somebody, and I had lost my direction (career wise at least). As far as worrying about my friends, I need to learn I cannot fix everything for everyone I care about. But I know where I want to go from here. And in my personal live I like to help trans-sisters whenever possible. Thank you for caring.

[crystalsopen]

... and THAT is exactly why so many REAL TGIRLS don't come on this forum anymore.

Not sure why so many people (the vast majority being 'top' men) feel they have the right to define what determines a "REAL TGIRL".

Let's switch it, up shall we? Most people outside of HA would say that you 3 aren't straight or even REAL MEN, just because of your attraction to trans women. Regardless of whether you're a top or a bottom. Hence why you secretly come to HA to discuss your attraction to trans women. It's a place where you can safely discuss the taboo that gets you off. You certainly can't discuss this with your boys, your dad, your brother, or ever your gf, because they wouldn't understand. Granted, we all know they are wrong about their opinions of trans women and the men who are attracted to us. Having said that, why would you turn HA into a place that isn't safe for trans women who are tops and men who bottom for us?

For the record, I am a top. For work AND in real life. I can assure you I am not just a REAL TGIRL, but I am also a REAL WOMAN. Going further, I have the legal documents (License, Passport, etc) to reflect my gender. Female is who I am, not what I practice. Therefore what turns me on, and what I do in bed changes absolutely nothing.

It's pretty hypocritical that some people think bottoming for a tgirl is much different then fucking a tgirl while their balls smack on hers.

On that note, once again (like so many other tgirls) I'm seriously wondering if it's worth logging in here anymore.

XOXO
-K
Well said. Unfortunately its often necessary to explain stuff we consider to be pretty basic, and explain it over and over. That is one of the best and most important forms of trans advocacy. Ignorance is the basis for prejudice; and prejudice is the justification for discrimination and hate crimes. So removing ignorance is the one of the best ways to help our cause. Thank you.

[Marty Mcfly]

I call bullshit on Karabella for the not safe comment..This is a discussion board whicch means people have the right to state theor own view points if you can not hear another view besides your own then NO you should not log on again.A convo is not for you..I as well as MANY other Men,Woman,and TS see nothing at all Fem or ladylike about A TS top and can never see one as anything but a very fem male..Thats my personal view point.You can have yours to many of these guys kiss any and every TGirls ass wothout respect for fellow male posters..
Tops in my view are Gay men.

[Marty Mcfly]

For the record my friends do know about me and tgirls since that is all i date
Not all of us are ashamed to be seen with TSa
Since my girls are bottoms i see them as females.They are GG to me.

[fred41]

I call bullshit on Karabella for the not safe comment..This is a discussion board whicch means people have the right to state theor own view points if you can not hear another view besides your own then NO you should not log on again.A convo is not for you..I as well as MANY other Men,Woman,and TS see nothing at all Fem or ladylike about A TS top and can never see one as anything but a very fem male..Thats my personal view point.You can have yours to many of these guys kiss any and every TGirls ass wothout respect for fellow male posters..
Tops in my view are Gay men.

Constantly repeating a prejudicial statement is not conversation or debate.

Conversation or debate requires one to at least have an open mind to another's point of view or at least respect the answer that was given...your remarks are just pure bullshit at this point given to create a rise...and they did.
In other words your just an asshole pure and simple.

[Karabella]

I call bullshit on Karabella for the not safe comment..This is a discussion board whicch means people have the right to state theor own view points if you can not hear another view besides your own then NO you should not log on again.A convo is not for you..I as well as MANY other Men,Woman,and TS see nothing at all Fem or ladylike about A TS top and can never see one as anything but a very fem male..Thats my personal view point.You can have yours to many of these guys kiss any and every TGirls ass wothout respect for fellow male posters..
Tops in my view are Gay men.


I agree that you have the right to say whatever you'd like. Just like I have the right to correct you like I did earlier. Your 'personal view' is like an asshole, everyone has one. What I stated were facts. I (like every top, bottom or versatile trans woman before and after me) are REAL TGIRLS and REAL WOMEN despite your lack of mental capacity to comprehend that.


For the record my friends do know about me and tgirls since that is all i date
Not all of us are ashamed to be seen with TSa
Since my girls are bottoms i see them as females.They are GG to me.

Anonymous users could claim they're astronauts on here just to prove a point. So, I'm not going to entertain this claim.

Carry on.

XOXO
-K

[Marty Mcfly]

You prove yourself to have 0 self asteem and seem very clueless about what being a Tgirl is as well as real men who date them
You should take your Topping ass to the stand up circuit sir I rest my case..So many TGirls are clueless these days.

[fred41]

You prove yourself to have 0 self asteem and seem very clueless about what being a Tgirl is as well as real men who date them
You should take your Topping ass to the stand up circuit sir I rest my case..So many TGirls are clueless these days.

Thank you Dr. Douchebag for that educated insight...the floor is now open to other professors who are under the illusion that they are real men.

[Karabella]

You prove yourself to have 0 self asteem and seem very clueless about what being a Tgirl is as well as real men who date them
You should take your Topping ass to the stand up circuit sir I rest my case..So many TGirls are clueless these days.


^^^^^

... and THAT, ladies & gentleman is the reaction of a ʀ̶ᴇ̶ᴀ̶ʟ̶ weak man who's been defeated.


and for my GirlCock loving bottom boys (A.K.A REAL MEN):

[FreddieGomez]

Not my cup of tea,

Thanks anyway.

[nysprod]

Constantly repeating a prejudicial statement is not conversation or debate.

Conversation or debate requires one to at least have an open mind to another's point of view or at least respect the answer that was given...your remarks are just pure bullshit at this point given to create a rise...and they did.
In other words your just an asshole pure and simple.

:iagree: totally

[Westheangelino]

Karabella, thank you for being a voice of reason on here!!!!!


There are PLENTY of tgirls who love to top either some of the time or ALL the time. I can personally vouch for this ;) A lot of them don't advertise it for two reasons: 1. they will be pestered with fervor by cock hungry bottoms 2. They will be called "men" or worse by genetic males who think they're 100% straight and thus insecure about liking tgirls and tell themselves all is well so long as the girl is a bottom!

[nysprod]

I call bullshit on Karabella for the not safe comment..This is a discussion board whicch means people have the right to state theor own view points if you can not hear another view besides your own then NO you should not log on again.A convo is not for you..I as well as MANY other Men,Woman,and TS see nothing at all Fem or ladylike about A TS top and can never see one as anything but a very fem male..Thats my personal view point.You can have yours to many of these guys kiss any and every TGirls ass wothout respect for fellow male posters..
Tops in my view are Gay men.

Just as there are a lot of ignorant and hateful people who would say that you're in denial about being gay because you're attracted to trans women, so too do you sound with your personal viewpoint.

[Tapatio]

I didn't mean to worry anyone, so I took that down. I was tired, stressed, worried about somebody, and I had lost my direction (career wise at least). As far as worrying about my friends, I need to learn I cannot fix everything for everyone I care about. But I know where I want to go from here. And in my personal live I like to help trans-sisters whenever possible. Thank you for caring.

Glad to know you're OK.

[Marty Mcfly]

Not my cut of tea either,I love a big fat booty
Like babydoll.

[holzz]

er....some do, some don't.

in escorting, most clients bottom. in relationships, not really....

[holzz]

^^^^^

... and THAT, ladies & gentleman is the reaction of a ʀ̶ᴇ̶ᴀ̶ʟ̶ weak man who's been defeated.


and for my GirlCock loving bottom boys (A.K.A REAL MEN):


lol...nice to see you know the motiviations of all bottoms...;)

[holzz]

just wanna say i'm a bottom and no i ain't offended lol...

i am cos i have an anal sexuality, and TSs satisfy that....could never do it with a man, never in a million fucking years if i could help it...:)

i don't think it makes me less of a man, i don't agree cos that's some old gender norm, i guess i have a progressive/push the envelope mindset.....sex is subjective, and i like anal stimulation...and i've never liked anal sex topping, doesn't feel as good...even with a genetic woman..i could fuck a GG's pussy from now until Doomsday, but her arse..no, doens't feel as good..

My own honest belief is that men who bottom are more accepting of their own sexuality....can't speak for all tops, but then seems a bit of bravado or trying to "prove" they're still straight....i don't think ANY man into TS, if he likes to top, bottom, or only get handjobs or blowjobs, is NOT 100% straight. I'd say 80% straight lol..

[diddybop]

This topic again?
I am a strict Top
In my hobby life and private life with TS by choice because that is what I enjoy
I would never knock a TS for being top or a male for being bottom
We all like what we like in the bedroom.

[Silcc69]

^^^^^

... and THAT, ladies & gentleman is the reaction of a ʀ̶ᴇ̶ᴀ̶ʟ̶ weak man who's been defeated.


and for my GirlCock loving bottom boys (A.K.A REAL MEN):

How many bottoms have PM you asking your going rates?

[Always_aUnicorn]

Anybody have some pop corn?

[LittleGuy]

Can trans women shit?

[Tapatio]

Anybody have some pop corn?

For you? All the popcorn in the world.

[Karabella]

How many bottoms have PM you asking your going rates?

Just you baby ;)

XOXO
-K

[Silcc69]

Just you baby ;)

XOXO
-K

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