Why Mia Isabella Why ????

[Johnny.Blaze]

I so loved her old look. Absolutely beautiful as far as I was concerned. Did not need to alter a thing. So tell me please. Why do these girls get so overboard with it. I know they don't want to look like their former male selves. But I think it's getting to the point of crazy. even her boobs and ass changed so dramatically. Am I wrong in this assumption?
Look over these four pictures and tell me. Do you prefer the old Mia or the new Mia? First 2 are the old Mia, last 2 are the new...

[sukumvit boy]

:iagree:Right on!

[TSPornFan]

You're wrong on this one on so many levels. First off girls want to feel and look feminine. It's her body so it's her choice. We don't have any right to tell someone to not have surgery.

Secondly, you're not being fair to Mia. Your pictures show her after the surgery was done and her process was not complete. NEVER judge surgery results in the first few weeks and months. It takes up to a year for the results to drop and look natural.

Here are the actual results from her most recent surgery. This is from her MOST RECENT hardcore scene.

[ew86riv]

i think it's the hair that makes the difference. in my opinion, the short hair doesn't work.

[youngblood61]

She really looks good imo.

[transfan8591]

She looks good giving a ride.
http://shemalestardb.com/cont1/25/81324_9.jpg


I'm not a big fan of plastic surgery,
but she looks good without those manly wrinkles
in her forehead. The new breast implants and booty
look nice. I like the short bob haircut as well.
As long as she don't completely mess her face up
with plastic surgery, it's all good.



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[maaarc]

she still looks great to me :shrug

[Ben in LA]

No complaints here...

[christianxxx]

absolutely no complaints - she is a goddess

[Nigga_please]

This is where excessive plastic surgery always leads. She just better not go under the knife too much. Her face is already starting to get that look of always being suprized to it.

[SexSlave1972]

And those fucking ass implant's.
After implant's their asses looks more like sack of potatoes than anything else.
Go to gym, not surgery !!

[knighthawk]

Completely agree

[Donkey]

You're wrong on this one on so many levels. First off girls want to feel and look feminine. It's her body so it's her choice. We don't have any right to tell someone to not have surgery.

Secondly, you're not being fair to Mia. Your pictures show her after the surgery was done and her process was not complete. NEVER judge surgery results in the first few weeks and months. It takes up to a year for the results to drop and look natural.

Here are the actual results from her most recent surgery. This is from her MOST RECENT hardcore scene.

And those are some of the most photoshopped pictures I've seen in a long time. Those photos do not reflect reality. She looks way different in unaltered photos, and not for the better.

[flabbybody]

I got a real problem with the medical profession that makes no effort to encourage patients with dysmorphia to seek psychological help in dealing with their disorder. Greedy plastic surgeons who feed the endless hunger for unattainable perfection never have to worry about peer review.
Don't doctors have to take an oath when they graduate from medical school? DO NO HARM

[Johnny.Blaze]

You're wrong on this one on so many levels. First off girls want to feel and look feminine. It's her body so it's her choice. We don't have any right to tell someone to not have surgery.

Secondly, you're not being fair to Mia. Your pictures show her after the surgery was done and her process was not complete. NEVER judge surgery results in the first few weeks and months. It takes up to a year for the results to drop and look natural.

Here are the actual results from her most recent surgery. This is from her MOST RECENT hardcore scene.

How can I be possibly wrong on so many levels? Look I understand the girls want to look and feel feminine. That's all well and good. But understand one important thing. This is a business where your looks etc are extremely important. And why are they in this business? Um, to make money right?
So say all your fans loved your original look. Then you up and change your whole appearance. Don't you think you're risking losing many fans now because you've altered your appearance so much?
I'm sorry, this isn't about being a gentlemen or a white knight. In the end, it's about fans liking your look. It isnt anything personal. I love Mia as a person. I just so much liked her old look. That's all I'm saying...
Here is a good example. Say Christian has a large fan base of girls who like him because they adore his bald head, shaven face and his build. Now say he decides he wants hair on his head, a full beard and to lose that build. either get skinny or get fatter, whichever. Because he wants to and it will make him feel better. You think those girls that buy memberships or his DVD's are gonna be thrilled with his choice? I think not.

[LibertyHarkness]

Fans come and go at the end of day ... as soon as you lose some fans for changing some thing you gain new fans because you now appeal to them ..

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder .

[flabbybody]

dysmorphics never see beauty, only self imperfection.
Have you ever spoken to a 90 pound woman who sees a fat person when they look in a mirror? It would be funny if it weren't so tragic.
Trans women are particularly prone to the disorder because of the endless quest for femininity and "passabllity" I've never met Mia and don't mean to diagnose her on an internet forum. But I've known enough girls irl who've obsessed about surgery every waking minute of their days.

[Ts RedVeX]

Quoting Jonny Blaze: "And why are they in this business? Um, to make money right?"

I believe that some escorts are in the business because they do not know what else they could do to make themselves happy which is the final effect everybody wants to achieve. Money is only a tool that may help in pursuit for happines. However, a tool used improperly may cause injury...

[daltx_m]

Wait? That's the same person? :confused:

[Turlington]

Still hot to me...

[Johnny.Blaze]

Everyone not agreeing with my statement can go on and think what they want. Most probably don't want to come out and say how they really feel for fear of looking as though they only care about the looks. But lets face it. In the porn industry, we like who we feel turns us on. That's the whole nature of the business. This isn't about how the girls are outside of the business, it's how we see them on camera. Am I wrong?
And as far as what Liberty stated in that fans come and go. I will bet any amount of money that the majority that know the differences between the old look and the new look, will say as I have. The old look was better. And that goes for allot of the girls. Not all, but many. They go overboard with it, as if its a crazy addiction. And I'm just trying to understand why it is that they would choose to go backwards when they where perfect in everyones eyes before. Because in the end. If you're in this business, you're trying to have a pleasing look and appeal for the fans aren't you?
I'm sure some might think that sounds insensitive, but I'm only stating the obvious, and what my opinion is....

[RallyCola]

from my perspective as a porn fan....i am no longer interested in mia. the more surgery she has had, the more i've found other girls far superior. so taking into account that the ONLY relationship i have with Mia and will ever even care to have is that of a consumer, i am no longer HER consumer. it is my right as a consumer to complain about a product to a certain degree but since there is no way to affect change in this case, i just don't bother.

now, from a personal perspective, i don't know her, her motivation or her intentions so she can do whatever makes her happy or at least makes her satisfied. i realize my opinion of her looks will never matter to her so what's the point of dwelling on it.

as i always say...the best way to express your interest in a model or lack there of is simple...don't spend money on porn that isn't exactly what you like because the economics of the situation are more important than banter.

[GroobySteven]

as i always say...the best way to express your interest in a model or lack there of is simple...don't spend money on porn that isn't exactly what you like because the economics of the situation are more important than banter.


Money talks and sales dictate but I'd always want to here why, even if I disagree with it. While not always able to change the product, it at least gives a direction or a temperature of what people are looking for.

[giovanni_hotel]

Mia hurts her earning potential by becoming less FF IMO. She was always one of the great performers in TS porn and had an excellent voice and bedside demeanor.

She could sell the hell out of a sex scene.

Her looks have changed some but it's not radical.

Danika Dreamz is the girl I think went a tad too far with her facial work.
She ALWAYS looked cute, fem and unclockable to me. Now she's beginning to get that plastic look around the mouth.

[TSPornFan]

How can I be possibly wrong on so many levels? Look I understand the girls want to look and feel feminine. That's all well and good. But understand one important thing. This is a business where your looks etc are extremely important. And why are they in this business? Um, to make money right?
So say all your fans loved your original look. Then you up and change your whole appearance. Don't you think you're risking losing many fans now because you've altered your appearance so much?
I'm sorry, this isn't about being a gentlemen or a white knight. In the end, it's about fans liking your look. It isnt anything personal. I love Mia as a person. I just so much liked her old look. That's all I'm saying...
Here is a good example. Say Christian has a large fan base of girls who like him because they adore his bald head, shaven face and his build. Now say he decides he wants hair on his head, a full beard and to lose that build. either get skinny or get fatter, whichever. Because he wants to and it will make him feel better. You think those girls that buy memberships or his DVD's are gonna be thrilled with his choice? I think not.

You must be kidding me. You are wrong because you judged her way too soon. You cannot judge plastic or corrective surgery's results soon after the surgery. It takes up to a year for the full results.

Look at Hazel Tucker. Her implants have dropped and look more natural. You also ignored the full results pictures of Mia that I posted in this thread. What do you think of her FULL/FINAL RESULTS?

Porn is a tricky industry. I understand why people find someone attractive. However, its up to the individual to decide if he or she wants a change. If you don't like a person's new look, then look at someone else. You can still enjoy the person's pass content.

I only like sexy T-Girls with fit bodies and big tits. I don't waste my time looking at flat chested or small chested T-Girls. I also don't tell them to get boob jobs because that's their choice. Do you see me bitching about a girl not getting implants? Hell NO! I admire and celebrate the girls who I like such as Sarina Valentina, Kimber James, & Aubrey Kate. I became Hazel Tucker's fan after she bought the sweet tits.


And those are some of the most photoshopped pictures I've seen in a long time. Those photos do not reflect reality. She looks way different in unaltered photos, and not for the better.

I have the video and she looks the same.

[TSPornFan]

from my perspective as a porn fan....i am no longer interested in mia. the more surgery she has had, the more i've found other girls far superior. so taking into account that the ONLY relationship i have with Mia and will ever even care to have is that of a consumer, i am no longer HER consumer. it is my right as a consumer to complain about a product to a certain degree but since there is no way to affect change in this case, i just don't bother.

now, from a personal perspective, i don't know her, her motivation or her intentions so she can do whatever makes her happy or at least makes her satisfied. i realize my opinion of her looks will never matter to her so what's the point of dwelling on it.

as i always say...the best way to express your interest in a model or lack there of is simple...don't spend money on porn that isn't exactly what you like because the economics of the situation are more important than banter.

Complaining about a girl's body is a gray area. It's wrong on one hand to tell a girl to get or not to get surgery. It's her body and her choice. On the other hand some consumers will stop being fans and move on to someone else. She will consumers. Do consumers have the right to tell someone what to do with their body? I think not Rally.

You never see anybody bitch at a girl for not getting implants unless there is a questionable fundraiser. I would totally be into Ryder Monroe if she had implants because she has everything else that I find attractive in TS women. However, I will never be attracted to her or ever buy any of scenes because she is flat chested. However, I will never complain or demand for her to get implants.

[RallyCola]

Mia hurts her earning potential by becoming less FF IMO. She was always one of the great performers in TS porn and had an excellent voice and bedside demeanor.

She could sell the hell out of a sex scene.

Her looks have changed some but it's not radical.

Danika Dreamz is the girl I think went a tad too far with her facial work.
She ALWAYS looked cute, fem and unclockable to me. Now she's beginning to get that plastic look around the mouth.


danika is another girl that is just like Mia to me....i prefer to watch older videos and am just not interested in their newer work.

its like Jim Carrey...i'd watch ace ventura or the truman show over yes man or fun with dick and jane any day. as performers change, their audience may or may not accept it. when it comes to porn, it may seem more harsh because you are pointing out looks as a reason for loss of interest but it is all the same really.

[GroobySteven]

d
its like Jim Carrey...i'd watch ace ventura or the truman show over yes man or fun with dick and jane any day.

Dumb and Dumber 2 Trailer Official - Jim Carrey, Jeff Daniels - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMxwcRck9TI)

[trish]

I see Danika Dreamz,s most recent set posted by Doug got 10 likes out of 10 votes. What's that say? http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1498917&postcount=1421

[Jimmy W]

"You must be kidding me. You are wrong because you judged her way too soon. You cannot judge plastic or corrective surgery's results soon after the surgery. It takes up to a year for the full results."

Johnny.Blaze is not wrong. Regardless of what you think of his subjective opinions, he is basing them not on private, stolen or not for public consumption pictures. She put herself out there apparantly before the results of her surgery had time to more accurately resemble how she wanted to look (according to other posts here it takes a full year) and if it's true that it takes a year to see the true results, then it must also be true that the pictures immediately post surgery are NOT what she wants to look like....which I think, means Johnny is correct.

[TSPornFan]

"You must be kidding me. You are wrong because you judged her way too soon. You cannot judge plastic or corrective surgery's results soon after the surgery. It takes up to a year for the full results."

Johnny.Blaze is not wrong. Regardless of what you think of his subjective opinions, he is basing them not on private, stolen or not for public consumption pictures. She put herself out there apparantly before the results of her surgery had time to more accurately resemble how she wanted to look (according to other posts here it takes a full year) and if it's true that it takes a year to see the true results, then it must also be true that the pictures immediately post surgery are NOT what she wants to look like....which I think, means Johnny is correct.

Are you on drugs? How can someone be correct when not judging the finished product? It's like building a house and saying it looks awful before the walls, rooms, and stairs are built.

Sure she put herself out there before letting the results finish. It does not change her final results for her most recent surgery. It also does NOT make Johnny correct. I think she should have waited before shooting the pictures Johnny posted. However, It does not matter if she disliked the look in the post surgery photos. It does not mean that she went overboard. It means she needed more time to heal and let the results come in time.

Nobody is correct about how much surgery a girl may need to appear feminine or achieve their goals. Sunshyne Monroe recently had a nose job. Are you bitch about that as well? Kimber James had SRS two years ago. Are you going to cry and complain?

Not every girl has great natural looks like Domino Presley, Jane Marie, and Aubrey Kate. The girls I listed only had boob jobs, nothing more. Most T-Girls don't have it easy as those three girls.

[Jimmy W]

No, I'm not on drugs. I have to wonder what basis you have to ask that. I also wonder if you actually read my post or just want to explode with a meandering response because you feel like you should disagree with me but can't establish why.

[TSPornFan]

No, I'm not on drugs. I have to wonder what basis you have to ask that. I also wonder if you actually read my post or just want to explode with a meandering response because you feel like you should disagree with me but can't establish why.

You realize how stupid your comment was? You said Johnny was correct about Mia going overboard because she disliked her appearance before her body finished healing. Do you realize how stupid the comment was?

Who says to themselves "I went overboard because I dislike my appearance at the moment as my body hasn't finished healing"? I take this subject personally because I had corrective surgery. I know I didn't go overboard while healing because the healing was going to take time. People wait for the final results before disliking their looks after surgery. Kimber James said in an interview that she waited for her body to heal before she judged her pussy's appearance. She overall likes the look, but will have a few minor changes done to appear more natural.

[Jimmy W]

My comments were not stupid. You have the right to disagree and maybe some day offer reasons why you think why I am wrong but stupid, no. Obviously this topic strikes an emotional chord with you but other than you calling me stupid, I have no reason to change my opinion.

[lilprettymuch]

My favorite bitch! I love her! Can't go wrong with her. 👍 👅 👄

[lilprettymuch]

...the pics are fucking awesome! Thank you!!!

[giovanni_hotel]

I see Danika Dreamz,s most recent set posted by Doug got 10 likes out of 10 votes. What's that say? http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1498917&postcount=1421

LOL. I don't think Danika went way over the top, just that IMO she had work done on her face that wasn't necessary.

This was Danika before surgery;
http://lumpimages.s3.amazonaws.com/big-dick-shemales-naked/http%253A%252F%252Fwww.danikadreamz.org%252Ffiles% 252F2012%252F09%252Fdanika-dreamz-big-dick.jpg:cheers:!!

No need for plastic surgery from what I see because nothing needs fixing.

[TSPornFan]

My comments were not stupid. You have the right to disagree and maybe some day offer reasons why you think why I am wrong but stupid, no. Obviously this topic strikes an emotional chord with you but other than you calling me stupid, I have no reason to change my opinion.

Who in the hell are you? I have every right to think your comment was stupid. I gave you MANY REASONS why I disagreed with you. If you don't want to change your opinion, then fine. That's your choice. However, it doesn't change my opinion of your illogical comment.

[hairyguy]

by far, the newer mia is prettier. her features are a bit more feminine.

[NRT]

I read somewhere that she is part jamaican. I wonder what her views are on the gay/bi/trans scene is out there as explored in this documentary recently aired in the uk:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/unreported-world/videos/all/jamaicas-underground-gays

my view is that it only focussed on the street girls who live rough and probably on drugs. They dont make up all the gay scene. I heard there are doctors, teachers, lawyers, hairdressers, actors, photographers, engineers, architects and loads more professions who are gay and have their own discreet scene. they wont pick up any of the tricks or street girls tkhe docu focussed on. I suppose that would be the answer Mia would give. She does look good in her latest pics. However maybe people should not get back to working untill they have fully recovered from the surgeries

[SirDickie]

The NEW rubberized Mia is digesting in my humble opinion - loved her fresh, amateur look in the 1st vids she did. Ughh.... rubber butt implants, fake cheekbones, terrible looking fake, rubber tits. Come on fans, how can anyone think thats attractive? Thats NOT God's creation - the NEW Mia is a medical experiment gone way wrong.

[trish]

It's rude to insult a woman's appearance if she's digesting (even if you only humbly insult her). You should wait at least two hours after she's eaten.

[Johnny.Blaze]

The NEW rubberized Mia is digesting in my humble opinion - loved her fresh, amateur look in the 1st vids she did. Ughh.... rubber butt implants, fake cheekbones, terrible looking fake, rubber tits. Come on fans, how can anyone think thats attractive? Thats NOT God's creation - the NEW Mia is a medical experiment gone way wrong.

I won't go as far as to use the wording you have but in essence you are correct. This has been my whole point. I mean people have to understand that I was a HUGE Mia fan. I mean she's in my list of Top 5 girls ever. And I have spent a shit ton of money on her Dvd's and website memberships etc. So I've never been just a here today gone tomorrow type of fan. I'd like to think that a good chunk of my dollars helped in that surgery of hers that I have so disagreed with. Can you imagine my surprise having a membership to her site, then she takes a short hiatus, then all of a sudden comes back looking like a totally new person? Talk about Wow factor. I was shocked. Now perhaps TS Pornfan is right about the surgery needing to settle in. I really don't know about that much. All I do know is that she made around 3 or so scenes after that surgery. And she looked the same in every one. I'll have to check out this scene that he's speaking of and then take a judgment call.
But aside from her facial work, I don't know what she was thinking in regards to her breast and ass work. Especially the ass. It just does not look normal anymore. Hips are strangely shaped, and this weird flap thing towards the bottom. Her tits and ass where perfect before, why change it to look more obviously fake. I just don't get it. But oh well, what's don't is done. I just hope she doesn't end up having that Kenny Rogers or Michael Jackson surgery addiction. And lastly, what is it with high ass cheekbones? Do these girls realize that not many woman have that anyways, so its not really feminine. Looks like two balls stuck under the skin. Not appealing as far as I'm concerned...

[Johnny.Blaze]

It's rude to insult a woman's appearance if she's digesting (even if you only humbly insult her). You should wait at least two hours after she's eaten.

LMFAO !!!!:dead-1:

[hairyguy]

on her site, i am seeing clips of her in the preview sample, as well as pics (yes obviously i realize they are photoshopped). i don't see anything that's terrible. she is super feminine. i could probably find a few before and after changes but in essence, she is still mia. the camera man and her photographer did a great job creating her site btw. definitely looks professional and she looks amazing in all those poses, especially the one above the get instant access here logo (yes her ass is hidden but she just appears to be very feminine).

[Johnny.Blaze]

Ok folks, I've just watched Mia's Latest scene. And I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong. TS Pornfan is right. Her surgery has finally settled in and she's still pretty much the Mia I still adore. I suppose when I first saw those after surgery scenes and after the 3rd or forth one, I figured that was her new look. I'm not sure why she even chose to do anything until it was all settled but whatever. It's a mute point now. I feel like a douche for saying what I have. Even though some girls do still go overboard, but I'm not going to say any names.
So with that, my apologies to the board. I certainly won't pre judge in the future...

[dabaldone]

Everyone not agreeing with my statement can go on and think what they want. Most probably don't want to come out and say how they really feel for fear of looking as though they only care about the looks. But lets face it. In the porn industry, we like who we feel turns us on. That's the whole nature of the business. This isn't about how the girls are outside of the business, it's how we see them on camera. Am I wrong?
And as far as what Liberty stated in that fans come and go. I will bet any amount of money that the majority that know the differences between the old look and the new look, will say as I have. The old look was better. And that goes for allot of the girls. Not all, but many. They go overboard with it, as if its a crazy addiction. And I'm just trying to understand why it is that they would choose to go backwards when they where perfect in everyones eyes before. Because in the end. If you're in this business, you're trying to have a pleasing look and appeal for the fans aren't you?
I'm sure some might think that sounds insensitive, but I'm only stating the obvious, and what my opinion is....

Johnny Blaze, it's not simply the porn industry. A lot of trans women continue to alter their looks to the point of looking cartoonish. Their quest to achieve a cis normative look for some is an addiction. I had a next coolest pictures are on this form who to me is beginning to look "cartoonish". She was a beautiful girl at the beginning but I don't know if it was the escorting or her dabble into Sotile porn that made her continue to get work. My current GF is a very natural looking woman and she is stunning. I prefer that look.

[Prospero]

Whose body is it anyway? In the end the girl is the final arbiter - it is up to her.

[adude444]

With a dick as big as Mia's I hadn't really noticed her hair color.

[lifeisfiction]

It's rude to insult a woman's appearance if she's digesting (even if you only humbly insult her). You should wait at least two hours after she's eaten.

Save your good stuff for your stand-up show, don't waste it on us plebeians.

[morim]

Mia is SUPER!!!!!

[sukumvit boy]

As Johnny.Blaze demonstrates ,at first some of those photo sets and a few videos looked bizarre. But I have also seen her latest work and she looks great.
Mia is and will always be my #1 TS actress . She is just one of the sexiest people ,everything she puts out there is excellent.

[Johnny.Blaze]

Whose body is it anyway? In the end the girl is the final arbiter - it is up to her.

Well it being up to the girl is a no brainer. That's not really the point here. The main point is why does a girl choose to do TS Porn? For the money. And if anyone tells me different they are full of it.
So with that, yes it's their body, but they are trying to look as good as they possibly can for the fans, so in turn the fans buy their memberships, and dvd's and whatever else. Now some may not care. But I assure you, no I will bet you any amount of money. If you take 100 men that are fans. And you ask them, Before or After? 80% at least will say before. (Regarding Mia, and the look she had)
And that my friend, costs her dollars that she could have made, that she's in this business to make in the first place...I've never heard of any Movie Star, Singer, Porn Star etc. That is not concerned about losing their fan base. and I'm a big fan of Liberty's but not to disrespect you darling, but when you said fans come and go. I don't see it like that. If a star tell me Rebills aren't important in this business. Well then, you're in the wrong business as far as I'm concerned.

I rest my case....

[TSPornFan]

Well it being up to the girl is a no brainer. That's not really the point here. The main point is why does a girl choose to do TS Porn? For the money. And if anyone tells me different they are full of it.
So with that, yes it's their body, but they are trying to look as good as they possibly can for the fans, so in turn the fans buy their memberships, and dvd's and whatever else. Now some may not care. But I assure you, no I will bet you any amount of money. If you take 100 men that are fans. And you ask them, Before or After? 80% at least will say before.
And that my friend, costs her dollars that she could have made, that she's in this business to make in the first place...

I rest my case....

Each girl has different sets of fans throughout their careers. It's a tricky business when gaining and losing fans. Domino Presley said that she got boobs to get more fans because some guys like myself were not fans before her boob job. However, I am sure she lost many fans who loved her natural look. We see a guy here everyday complaining about a girl getting implants.

Hazel Tucker was not a star before she got implants in my opinion. I instantly became a fan after she got a pair of knockers.

I think Kelly Klaymour is really hot. However, she will start having problems gaining fans. She said on this board she will be a gg/ts only performer after her third and final scene with a guy. Some guys want to see a T-girl have sex with a guy. They won't look at Kelly fucking genetic girls and T-Girls especially because some have below average looks.

Sometimes it does not matter if the potential fan thinks a girl looks good. Some guys refuse to watch any pornstar who has not performed anal on camera. Some guys will not look at a girl who only does g/g.

I stopped being Tiffany Starr's fan. It wasn't because of her looks because she is hot. However, she has only had scenes with genetic girls and T-Girls in months and I do not like her partners. I find them all to be very unattractive. She does not make anything I want to see anymore.

[trish]

"Why does a bank robber rob banks?" For the money? Why wouldn't he transition and do TS porn instead? Clearly money is just one term that's helps balance the equation, but it's not THE REASON for doing anything.

Even if she does currently make money doing porn, why should a girl sacrifice her vision of herself for that of fickle fans who think nothing of insulting her appearance on public forums?

The point here is not, "Why don't Tgirls consult their fans before they undergo difficult surgeries," but rather what the fuck business is it of the fans in the first place and where do they get the gall to criticize?

[dafame]

I see Danika Dreamz,s most recent set posted by Doug got 10 likes out of 10 votes. What's that say? http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1498917&postcount=1421

It says that there are people out their that like Danika's look but Giovanni isn't one of them.

[Johnny.Blaze]

Danika in my opinion is still smokin. Have always adored her. However the only thing that I'm not really digging (And she may have only done it with this current shoot) is her hair style.
Her front hairline/no bangs isn't doing much for me.

[prettysharmin]

To me she is attractive, having a huge dick , good breast and butt, her face is also good , she is yummi

[Turlington]

The point here is not, "Why don't Tgirls consult their fans before they undergo difficult surgeries," but rather what the fuck business is it of the fans in the first place and where do they get the gall to criticize?

This is game.

[RyderMonroe]

Complaining about a girl's body is a gray area. It's wrong on one hand to tell a girl to get or not to get surgery. It's her body and her choice. On the other hand some consumers will stop being fans and move on to someone else. She will consumers. Do consumers have the right to tell someone what to do with their body? I think not Rally.

You never see anybody bitch at a girl for not getting implants unless there is a questionable fundraiser. I would totally be into Ryder Monroe if she had implants because she has everything else that I find attractive in TS women. However, I will never be attracted to her or ever buy any of scenes because she is flat chested. However, I will never complain or demand for her to get implants.
lol i am not flat chested u asshole

[Turlington]

lol i am not flat chested u asshole

Ooo kill 'em

[Deimos]

Because she wanted to? Who are we to give a shit... either fap or don't fap. lol

[holzz]

You're wrong on this one on so many levels. First off girls want to feel and look feminine. It's her body so it's her choice. We don't have any right to tell someone to not have surgery.

Secondly, you're not being fair to Mia. Your pictures show her after the surgery was done and her process was not complete. NEVER judge surgery results in the first few weeks and months. It takes up to a year for the results to drop and look natural.

Here are the actual results from her most recent surgery. This is from her MOST RECENT hardcore scene.

I would KILL her and now to be in that man's position! :D

I saw her piece on the Charlie Sheen thing and she looked the same as before to me.

If/when she goes post-op, I'll have to wear black for a while though.:)

[holzz]

Well it being up to the girl is a no brainer. That's not really the point here. The main point is why does a girl choose to do TS Porn? For the money. And if anyone tells me different they are full of it.
So with that, yes it's their body, but they are trying to look as good as they possibly can for the fans, so in turn the fans buy their memberships, and dvd's and whatever else. Now some may not care. But I assure you, no I will bet you any amount of money. If you take 100 men that are fans. And you ask them, Before or After? 80% at least will say before. (Regarding Mia, and the look she had)
And that my friend, costs her dollars that she could have made, that she's in this business to make in the first place...I've never heard of any Movie Star, Singer, Porn Star etc. That is not concerned about losing their fan base. and I'm a big fan of Liberty's but not to disrespect you darling, but when you said fans come and go. I don't see it like that. If a star tell me Rebills aren't important in this business. Well then, you're in the wrong business as far as I'm concerned.

I rest my case....

Mia semi-retired this year. she still does shoots, but like 2 or 3 years ago...

So doubt she needs the money, especially since she has a fashion business, lots of media appearances, etc.

I think after her latest surgeries, she looks fine, and as fuckable/bottomable as in her porn pomp. But she's a human being with her own will, I doubt she needs to care about what random Joe fan thinks if she gets a surgery, it's her life/body.

And one day, she may go post-op, and we all know her cock is part of her attraction/appeal. If/when she does, well it's her prerogative and her body...and probably when she does she may have decided to go into fashion or another industry full-time, or be a trans rights activist or something. It's not for us as fans to say what a stranger (which she is ultimately even though many here admire her) should do with her body.

[natina]

women/GG ASS IS FAT

you can not get a womanly ass or shape from woring out.

gain muscle lifts the ass but yu will get a muscular mans ass instead of a beatuiful fat/phat ass.

microfat injections/fat transfer is best

microfat injections/fat transfer VIDEOS & MORE

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=51083 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=51083)

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=51083&page=2


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=51083&page=21


And those fucking ass implant's.
After implant's their asses looks more like sack of potatoes than anything else.
Go to gym, not surgery !!

[RyderMonroe]

women/GG ASS IS FAT

you can not get a womanly ass or shape from woring out.

gain muscle lifts the ass but yu will get a muscular mans ass instead of a beatuiful fat/phat ass.

microfat injections/fat transfer is best

microfat injections/fat transfer VIDEOS & MORE

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=51083 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=51083)

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=51083&page=2


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=51083&page=21
Stupidest thing I've read today

[natina]

WORKING OUT WILL NOT CREATE THE NICE ASS OF A GG

YOU NEED womanly fat

[RyderMonroe]

working out will not create the nice ass of a gg

you need womanly fat
lmao 😂

[RyderMonroe]

WORKING OUT WILL NOT CREATE THE NICE ASS OF A GG

YOU NEED womanly fat
Hormones plus genetics decide what kind of ass you have. Women who want bigger butts can achieve it by working out lower body and increasing caloric intake.

[RyderMonroe]

women/GG ASS IS FAT

you can not get a womanly ass or shape from woring out.

gain muscle lifts the ass but yu will get a muscular mans ass instead of a beatuiful fat/phat ass.

microfat injections/fat transfer is best

microfat injections/fat transfer VIDEOS & MORE

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=51083 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=51083)

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=51083&page=2


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=51083&page=21
I do squats and other lower body stuff.

[Deimos]

Now that's one healthy ass

[Ben in LA]

I do squats and other lower body stuff.

I like those results...

[diddyboponTOP]

I think Mia looks fine But I have said many a once beautiful T Girl go all Joan Rivers over the years
Looks are so important to some of these girls I dont know How they live with with themselves after turning into freakish science projects.this goes for GGs and even men
Middle/old aged Hollywood turned into a bunch of living wax puppets..T gurls just tend to ruin their faces a couple of decades sooner then GGs.

[Winkle]

After Mia's first round of surgeries she was perfection. She looked very natural. It seems the caricature look is in these days and I find that a damn shame.

[diddyboponTOP]

After Mia's first round of surgeries she was perfection. She looked very natural. It seems the caricature look is in these days and I find that a damn shame.

Their own looks become a serious mental illness people need to stop bring so greedy and selfish and find other hobbies in life besides their faces and bodies.diddybop has spoken!.

[Jimmy W]

I also like the results, Ryder. Hot.

[lordworm]

Hormones plus genetics decide what kind of ass you have. Women who want bigger butts can achieve it by working out lower body and increasing caloric intake.

This is 100% accurate. As someone studying exercise physiology and nutrition science, I can tell you that a TS on hormones working out lower body and taking proper nutrition will build a well toned feminine lower body. Fact is you need high testosterone levels to build a buff guy physique. This is even hard for genetic males sometimes.

[Winkle]

Their own looks become a serious mental illness people need to stop bring so greedy and selfish and find other hobbies in life besides their faces and bodies.diddybop has spoken!.


Like Tulisa, she could only go backwards from this photo. It's crazy to me how somebody goes from this...

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/6/6/1370536283573/Tulisa-Contostavlos-010.jpg


To this...

[sucka4chix]

Meh! Mia lost me as a fan years ago. She's one of a couple of girls who totally turned me off by posting here. She gave off the same vibe as a certain tranny party promoter! Just made me sick. Then the CRAY CRAY announcement that she was doing her first interracial scene, as if all those scenes with WASPs weren't interracial, pushed me over the edge! But, yea, she's got loot and adoring fans---good for her. I'm just a bit more discerning.

[peacheater]

It's impossible for guys to comprehend the difficulty and complexity of emotions and decisions that someone such as Mia or any transgender person must go through in order to see themselves the way they wish to be seen, or think that others would want to see them. It's probably not much different to any other sufferer of a body dysmorphic condition or need to fit within what they perceive as an ideal stereotype image. Yes, it is sad how many people go beyond their own natural beauty trying to chase an ever changing public perception of "beauty". I would be the first to agree that Mia had a perfect feminine grace and look well before her latest surgery, but ones perception of themselves is something nobody else can comprehend or convince the object of beauty otherwise. All we can do is hope she is closer to happiness -which sadly, people of a nature addicted to cosmetic surgery never seem to be...But she seems like such a sweetheart, I hope she somehow knows that she can stop now. We love her already!

[sucka4chix]

Happiness is an emotion and as such it will come and go.

[peacheater]

sometimes yes. and certainly more so that looks.

[diddyboponTOP]

The Post Op that I mentioned in another threat that I have been off on again with for many years
When we first met she was so beautiful and passable now she gets spooked all the time because over kill on the facial work makes people really take deep notice.Damn Shame.

[werwt22]

Mia looks beautiful, with a nice plump azz, and beautiful skin tone. I think she looks great.

[youngblood61]

Mia still looks hot too me. I still like her early stuff, the sets she did for SMS are awesome. Especially that first one.:jerkoff