Do customers have a voice in TS porn?

[TSPornFan]

I'm not talking about statics on what sells the best. I'm talking about customers voicing their desires publicly on forums, sites, and twitter.

Customers have a very strong voice in straight porn. It has influenced a lot of women to do their first anal scenes during the past three years. Customers' voices have an impact in straight porn. Next the fans will ask for DP and it may happen. Fans ask for interracial and it may happen. Can the same be said about TS porn?

I rarely hear customers in TS porn asking a girl to start doing hardcore or do a particular type of scene. I have seen Caramel from Carameltgirls ask Kimber James to do a DP scene. However, I have not seen customers to push the request.

Straight customers can beg a company to rebook a girl and there is a chance of it actually happening. It can't be said in TS porn. TS Seduction's members begged Tomcat for over a year before he finally rebooked Jesse. We have been asking for white women on the site and that have fallen on death ears.

I've never seen anyone besides myself request T-Girls to do IR scenes. I remember making a topic on it a few months ago that went out of control because some strange member thought I was talking to him when I was quoting someone else. Anyways I just don't see it happening.

[RallyCola]

there is no room for other opinions because you constantly rant about yours which is both indicative of the problem with a consumer voice and lack of its efficacy.

that you started this thread to toot your own horn is quite pathetic.

[Ts RedVeX]

Go on then, have your say. See what happens. Oh wait.. You have aready done that to no effect.. I guess that unless you do not make your own movie, the answer to your question remains negative:s

Why do so many people waste their energy on moaning about things they dont like rather than acting in order to improve them???

[RallyCola]

...Why do so many people waste their energy on moaning about things they dont like rather than acting in order to improve them???

because franklin is a closeted recluse that has too much time on his "hand" (get it..other hand is on his dick) and thinks he actually matters above other members because he learned to type and can spell "Tomcat"

if i had $1 for every time franklin bitched about tomcat, i could buy him a fuck so he'd know there is a world beyond a keyboard and mouse.

[Ts RedVeX]

is there? :o

[Rockit_]

because franklin is a closeted recluse that has too much time on his "hand" (get it..other hand is on his dick) and thinks he actually matters above other members because he learned to type and can spell "Tomcat"

if i had $1 for every time franklin bitched about tomcat, i could buy him a fuck so he'd know there is a world beyond a keyboard and mouse.

You're hilarious. I wish I could give you more than one approval point, haha.

[Dexter_Morgan]

I Agree

We'll said RallyCola!

[GroobySteven]

We listen to all feedback that is emailed to us, read comments on the site, read twitter and facebook, and read pretty much everything on the forum.
Whether we act on something very much depends on whether we think the investment is worth the return (are there enough people who are going to join, pay, or stay members for this set).
I think you're under the impression that at the start of each period, we open our talent book and schedule who we want that month, with whom, and in which scene. Given the nature of most TS performers traveling, we rarely can do that.

If it's something simple and we can do it, we do.

I'd rarely ask a model to do something they were uncomfortable with (when people ask for XXX model to top or bottom, etc.) so it just wouldn't happen.

[RallyCola]

We listen to all feedback that is emailed to us, read comments on the site, read twitter and facebook, and read pretty much everything on the forum.
Whether we act on something very much depends on whether we think the investment is worth the return (are there enough people who are going to join, pay, or stay members for this set).
I think you're under the impression that at the start of each period, we open our talent book and schedule who we want that month, with whom, and in which scene. Given the nature of most TS performers traveling, we rarely can do that.

If it's something simple and we can do it, we do.

I'd rarely ask a model to do something they were uncomfortable with (when people ask for XXX model to top or bottom, etc.) so it just wouldn't happen.

well said sir, but i suspect as he does in every thread, franklin will tell you why you are wrong about your business.

[GroobySteven]

well said sir, but i suspect as he does in every thread, franklin will tell you why you are wrong about your business.

I wouldn't expect otherwise :-)

[transfan8591]

I'm not talking about statics on what sells the best. I'm talking about customers voicing their desires publicly on forums, sites, and twitter.

Customers have a very strong voice in straight porn. It has influenced a lot of women to do their first anal scenes during the past three years. Customers' voices have an impact in straight porn. Next the fans will ask for DP and it may happen. Fans ask for interracial and it may happen. Can the same be said about TS porn?

I rarely hear customers in TS porn asking a girl to start doing hardcore or do a particular type of scene. I have seen Caramel from Carameltgirls ask Kimber James to do a DP scene. However, I have not seen customers to push the request.

Straight customers can beg a company to rebook a girl and there is a chance of it actually happening. It can't be said in TS porn. TS Seduction's members begged Tomcat for over a year before he finally rebooked Jesse. We have been asking for white women on the site and that have fallen on death ears.

I've never seen anyone besides myself request T-Girls to do IR scenes. I remember making a topic on it a few months ago that went out of control because some strange member thought I was talking to him when I was quoting someone else. Anyways I just don't see it happening.



I'm not trippin' about T-Girl doing "IR" scenes.
As long as I (as a fan) don't read or listen to any
interviews were a T-Girl pornstar sounds like a
low-key or straight up racist.
It's ok, it's that persons choice. They can do what they want to.
But it's also my choice as a fan to not like or support that model anymore
as well.

DP, I'm not a big fan of that. But of course there are alot that are.
When I watch porn, I look to see something that reflects my sexual fantasies
(that explains why I have a lot of Asian and Latina porn flicks...lol)


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[lordworm]

I think as far as Grooby is concerned then yes, fans do have a voice. Even the small minority do. Other sites definitely not, especially those kink sites lol how many times have people asked for ts on ts in ts seduction? Not 1 scene yet.

But Grooby does though, they got everything. I can only speak for the brazilian sites since that's where I park my car but Louie Damazo works hard to give feedback on the forums and always listens to fan requests and when it's possible he does them.

[Johnny.Blaze]

I'm not sure who the director is for Grooby. But there is this one guy that always does his shoots in his boxers and socks. And many times you can see him in the shot. I request to not see that anymore lol

[AshlynCreamher]

I'm not sure who the director is for Grooby. But there is this one guy that always does his shoots in his boxers. And many times you can see him in the shot. I request to not see that anymore lol

Does that mean the photographer is giving himself self gratification?

[TSPornFan]

We listen to all feedback that is emailed to us, read comments on the site, read twitter and facebook, and read pretty much everything on the forum.
Whether we act on something very much depends on whether we think the investment is worth the return (are there enough people who are going to join, pay, or stay members for this set).
I think you're under the impression that at the start of each period, we open our talent book and schedule who we want that month, with whom, and in which scene. Given the nature of most TS performers traveling, we rarely can do that.

If it's something simple and we can do it, we do.

I'd rarely ask a model to do something they were uncomfortable with (when people ask for XXX model to top or bottom, etc.) so it just wouldn't happen.

I did not know you guys took feedback through emails. May you please make a request thread for models or the type of scenes people want to see?

I don't think you fully understand where I am coming from. It's not so much what or who Grooby books. It's about consumers wanting to see a girl do something that she maybe willing to do. You're in the industry. I'm sure you've seen straight ads about "first anal", "first DP", "first IR", etc. TS porn never advertises or hypes up a girl's "first" especially one fans demanded for which I don't see them doing for anyone.


there is no room for other opinions because you constantly rant about yours which is both indicative of the problem with a consumer voice and lack of its efficacy.

that you started this thread to toot your own horn is quite pathetic.

You don't understand the subject. I'm guessing you don't know much about straight porn's customer community. It's not about complaining. It's asking a girl to do something that she maybe willing to do on camera. They continue to support her in hopes of it happening and sometimes it happens.

Madison Ivy's fans wanted her to do anal for years and she finally did it. A lot of people made a huge deal out of it. Fans' request finally came true. That's what I am talking about. Do you see TS porn customers requesting a girl to do something let alone actually see it happen?


Go on then, have your say. See what happens. Oh wait.. You have aready done that to no effect.. I guess that unless you do not make your own movie, the answer to your question remains negative:s

Why do so many people waste their energy on moaning about things they dont like rather than acting in order to improve them???

It is NOT the customer's job to improve a product. Customers complained about issues to companies in hopes of change which rarely happens. The topic is also NOT about improving a product's quality.

[GroobySteven]

Does that mean the photographer is giving himself self gratification?

More likely sweating under hot lamps.

[GroobySteven]

I did not know you guys took feedback through emails. May you please make a request thread for models or the type of scenes people want to see?
Each site has a forum - you can also post here. Every cancelling member also gets an email asking where we can improve or how to keep them members longer.



I don't think you fully understand where I am coming from. It's not so much what or who Grooby books. It's about consumers wanting to see a girl do something that she maybe willing to do. You're in the industry. I'm sure you've seen straight ads about "first anal", "first DP", "first IR", etc. TS porn never advertises or hypes up a girl's "first" especially one fans demanded for which I don't see them doing for anyone.
Hmmm ... I'd never sell "first IR" as I see race as a non-issue and it shouldn't be made "special" the fact that this is the first time a model has been with a black guy on a scene. We might mention it in the write up but it's not really my style to overplay that. The images speak for themselves, we put a load of advertising and promotion up showing off the scenes, just scroll back thru HA threads.

[GroobySteven]

Each site has a forum - you can also post here. Every cancelling member also gets an email asking where we can improve or how to keep them members longer.


Hmmm ... I'd never sell "first IR" as I see race as a non-issue and it shouldn't be made "special" the fact that this is the first time a model has been with a black guy on a scene. We might mention it in the write up but it's not really my style to overplay that. The images speak for themselves, we put a load of advertising and promotion up showing off the scenes, just scroll back thru HA threads.


The dynamics of tgirl porn are very different to straight girl porn. A girl either tops or bottoms. There is no choice as to whether she does anal or vaginal. I've just posted something on Facebook recently (and on here I think) that seems appropriate ...

"i have a another request ... please do some top stuff of her and do a [named model] fucking a girl!!!!! will you???"

You've got to get it into your heads - some girls just don't want to top - just the same as some don't want to bottom. They probably could just about manage it with some coercion and the right payment but why would we want someone to do something that they didn't enjoy? It would make for a poor scene, poor porn and it's not how we like to represent transgender models or their sexuality. Portray them closer to who they are (or what they wish to show) and you get a happier model - and better content.

[TSPornFan]

Each site has a forum - you can also post here. Every cancelling member also gets an email asking where we can improve or how to keep them members longer.


Hmmm ... I'd never sell "first IR" as I see race as a non-issue and it shouldn't be made "special" the fact that this is the first time a model has been with a black guy on a scene. We might mention it in the write up but it's not really my style to overplay that. The images speak for themselves, we put a load of advertising and promotion up showing off the scenes, just scroll back thru HA threads.

I share your feelings about IR porn. It shouldn't be special. It would be nice for black fans to know about it because there are so many girls in porn who are unwilling to have sex with a black man on camera for various reasons.

I've never responded to the cancellation emails. I don't have complaints about Grooby except for the lack of busty African American models. That's for another day.


The dynamics of tgirl porn are very different to straight girl porn. A girl either tops or bottoms. There is no choice as to whether she does anal or vaginal. I've just posted something on Facebook recently (and on here I think) that seems appropriate ...

"i have a another request ... please do some top stuff of her and do a [named model] fucking a girl!!!!! will you???"

You've got to get it into your heads - some girls just don't want to top - just the same as some don't want to bottom. They probably could just about manage it with some coercion and the right payment but why would we want someone to do something that they didn't enjoy? It would make for a poor scene, poor porn and it's not how we like to represent transgender models or their sexuality. Portray them closer to who they are (or what they wish to show) and you get a happier model - and better content.

Again, it's not about asking a girl to do something that makes her unconformable. It's about asking her to do an act that she is willing to do but have not done on camera. A few years back I asked Jesse to bottom in a scene and she did it because she was willing to do so. If a girl is willing to do an act, then I don't see a problem with asking her to do it. If a guy asks Jane Marie to top, then that is rude and stupid. However, if he asks her to do an IR scene and she wanted to do it then that shouldn't be a problem.

Thank you for responding with good info. :p

[GroobySteven]

Again, it's not about asking a girl to do something that makes her unconformable. It's about asking her to do an act that she is willing to do but have not done on camera. A few years back I asked Jesse to bottom in a scene and she did it because she was willing to do so. If a girl is willing to do an act, then I don't see a problem with asking her to do it. If a guy asks Jane Marie to top, then that is rude and stupid. However, if he asks her to do an IR scene and she wanted to do it then that shouldn't be a problem.

Thank you for responding with good info. :p


If it was a sensible request and we thought plenty of members (or potential members) would like it AND she was due a reshoot, then we'd certainly look at it.

[Ts RedVeX]

Maybe a possibility of adding a questionare on creation of each thread would prove satisfactory both for franklyns and others. The thread's author would be able to ask a question and suggest a few answers other members would be able to choose. The survey's outcome would be presented on a chart or something anyone can see. New suggestions could be made in posts of reply..

I'm not sure how this forum operates, but would it be a big deal to introduce such a minor alteration?

[christianxxx]

if Franklin thinks straight porn companies give 2 shits about the fans opinions on who or what to shoot, he is crazy. Once again, Franklin is the band leader for the vocal minority (10 percent) of the total number of people who watch any given scene. Companies don't give 2 shits about the minority whether they bitch & moan, or praise effusively.

Madison Ivy doing anal for Brazzers had 0.0 percent to do with any fan bitching, moaning, complaining, imploring, or whatever. She was under contract and either 1. wanted to do it on her own, 2. got paid an inordinate amount of money 3. both of the above

Let me repeat, the vocal minority have 0.0 percent to do with who books what for what. How do I know this? I produced and directed the bulk of the content for Naughty America 2009-2011.

[christianxxx]

PS - Redvex is so fucking gorgeous, she makes me want to get back to England and shoot an entire movie around her. yes please! :)

[Ts RedVeX]

IDK who Madison Ivy is but to me, 99% of all porn looks fake and I personally find it rubbish. People watch that crap and then come to me saying I want this or that, and it turns out that they had no idea what it would take to perform without e.g. editing...

As it goes to fans, who actually pay to those big names, their opinion is important. It's just opinions like yours hammered in peoples' heads make it otherwise. The fact that poor quality porn sells best is just that most customers eat whatever the chef serves and are moderately or fully satisfied.

However, fewer potential clients will have more refined taste and might be prepared to pay to satisfy it too. (If not franklyn than a few others who probably neither have time nor feel like engaging in these usually fruitless discussions. Some may not even have an account on here and relay on what has been written by others or be unaware of this board's existence at all)

A survey might encourage more people to say what is on their mind without excess thinking and typing but just click-choosing what they like. Isn't that where the whole world has been going towards with all the "smart appliances" that fill your house? It is also much easier to associate yourself with an existing opinion than come up with your own.

On the other hand, it would become clear how many members want what next and then it would be up to the producers whether to go for quality or quantity.

[dontarte]

Cogently put, Red: it's such an eminently sensible suggestion! For negligible outlay, the 'moaning minnies' will feel they're getting their say, while those at the sharp end of the industry can choose whether or not to take note as they deem fit. In the words of Errol Brown, 'Everyone's a winner, baby...'

[nysprod]

This whole thing about high quality versus low quality is a bit silly...I found an amateur clip once of a guy topping a gurl in the back of a club...the lighting and camera work wasn't good and you could hear the muffled sounds of the music and some moaning as they got it on.

Point is, it was very realistic...they were there because they wanted to be, like they had just met in a club and decided to have a wild adventure...that made it way hotter than it otherwise would have been.

[dderek123]

Maybe a possibility of adding a questionare on creation of each thread would prove satisfactory both for franklyns and others. The thread's author would be able to ask a question and suggest a few answers other members would be able to choose. The survey's outcome would be presented on a chart or something anyone can see. New suggestions could be made in posts of reply..

I'm not sure how this forum operates, but would it be a big deal to introduce such a minor alteration?

People can create polls when they start a new thread. Something like that would be useful and then there would actually be a point to participating in the thread. I believe that's not the aim of the OP. I'm a cynical grump but IMHO Franklin just likes to stir up complaints about TS porn so he can echo his own complaints in some festival for moaners. He has done it a bunch of times before. He's not really a troll, i think he believes what he says, he's just one of those whiny guys on the internet. He enjoys a good winge and the more people that join in the more validation he feels.

[martin48]

What like those exit questionnaires you get given at the end of every meeting you go to? Please rate the location (1-5), Did you understand the plot? (1-5), etc.

Hmmmm.....


Maybe a possibility of adding a questionare on creation of each thread would prove satisfactory both for franklyns and others. The thread's author would be able to ask a question and suggest a few answers other members would be able to choose. The survey's outcome would be presented on a chart or something anyone can see. New suggestions could be made in posts of reply..

I'm not sure how this forum operates, but would it be a big deal to introduce such a minor alteration?

[GroobySteven]

There is no point debating "good quality" porn over "bad quality" as it's objective. Porn serves a purpose to titillate, stimulate and provide material to masturbate to (or enact your sexual release from). Personally, I can't get into any type of "produced" or studio type porn, it's just not me, even when I'm very attracted to the model and can find 20+ sets of her online - but if that same model has but up 15 images of herself, either self-taken or taken by someone she was intimate with, the quality doesn't always matter, it's the realism.

I do think fans (members) should have a say and this is why we at Grooby will try and accommodate if possible. To take umbrage with what Christian stated about that mainstream model, I do believe that company would give a shit what fans wanted as they wouldn't have either written into her contract or offered her a big sum of $$$ if they didn't think the fans would want that content of her over another model.

[christianxxx]

I agree with you, but I am talking about the vocal minority that speak up on blogs & forums. Obviously companies understand what the fans want, but they do that other avenues than listening to people bitching on forums.

[TSPornFan]

if Franklin thinks straight porn companies give 2 shits about the fans opinions on who or what to shoot, he is crazy. Once again, Franklin is the band leader for the vocal minority (10 percent) of the total number of people who watch any given scene. Companies don't give 2 shits about the minority whether they bitch & moan, or praise effusively.

Madison Ivy doing anal for Brazzers had 0.0 percent to do with any fan bitching, moaning, complaining, imploring, or whatever. She was under contract and either 1. wanted to do it on her own, 2. got paid an inordinate amount of money 3. both of the above

Let me repeat, the vocal minority have 0.0 percent to do with who books what for what. How do I know this? I produced and directed the bulk of the content for Naughty America 2009-2011.

I don't watch any given scene. Don't make assumptions about me. I'm like every other guy who has his selective taste in porn and women.

I don't think straight porn companies give a shit most of the time. However, they do give a damn when there is a high demand to see a girl do something that she may be willing to do.

Most customers do not bitch or moan because they believe they should be "thankful" for anything given to them. I think that is a very bad attitude because they're just being a bitch. Why should a customer being thankful for something he dislikes? I've never understand this mentally from porn customers.

Being under contract has nothing to do with a girl doing a "first". I didn't say fans were bitching or complaining. I said they were requesting it. Requests are totally different than bitching or complaining. Madison Ivy's first anal scene may not even been hyped up if there was a low demand for it.


I agree with you, but I am talking about the vocal minority that speak up on blogs & forums. Obviously companies understand what the fans want, but they do that other avenues than listening to people bitching on forums.

I partly disagree with you on this. Not all companies know what fans want. I like picking on TS Seduction so I'll go there. Members are sick of amateur guys being booked on the site for a fan experience. Amateurs in professional porn hurt the scene and that's why guys like YOU should be booked on the site more often than amateurs.

I don't know about everyone here. I really like Foxxy and she is a great performer. However, I am sick and tired of seeing Devil's Films constantly booking her in Transsexual Babysitters, Cheerleaders, and Prostitutes. There are plenty of girls that the company has not shoot such as Adriana Lynn Rush, Jonelle Brooks, Nina Lawless, Natalia Coxxx, etc.

A lot of porn companies are like this. They keep booking the same people over and over again when they could create a more diverse product by shooting a variety of girls. Grooby and SMC are the only two TS companies who have a variety of models to choose from.

[ElectricWoody]

I got turned off by a porn star whom I really fantasized about. After purchasing a DVD and the guy behind the camera is jacking off, camera shaking, heavy nose breathing and mouth drooling camera man makes it kinda hard to concentrate.

[Wendy Summers]

More likely sweating under hot lamps.

In these days of LEDs & CFLs, someone's still shooting with hot lights?

He deserves to sweat a little.

[christianxxx]

Franklin, once again your problem is and always will be your assumption that YOUR likes & dislikes are something bigger than they are. You say "members are sick of amateur guys" when you mean "FRANKLIN is sick of amateur guys"

Devil's Films is based in Los Angeles. They shoot only in Los Angeles. So unless a girl is in LA when they are shooting a movie....those girls aren't getting shot.

Adrianna Lynn Rush lives in Chicago and never ever ever comes to LA or is available for shoots.

Natalia Coxxx hasn't done a scene in about 3 years.

Nina Lawless just came up from SD and shot for Cheerleaders

Jonelle Brooks lives in Florida and hasn't been to LA in like 3 years until recently and Devil's wasn't shooting.

[bluesoul]

I've never understand this mentally from porn customers.I like picking on TS Seduction so I'll go there. Members are sick of amateur guys being booked on the site for a fan experience. Amateurs in professional porn hurt the scene and that's why guys like YOU should be booked on the site more often than amateurs. I don't know about everyone here. I really like Foxxy and she is a great performer. However, I am sick and tired of seeing Devil's Films constantly booking her in Transsexual Babysitters, Cheerleaders, and Prostitutes. There are plenty of girls that the company has not shoot such as Adriana Lynn Rush, Jonelle Brooks, Nina Lawless, Natalia Coxxx, etc.

A lot of porn companies are like this. They keep booking the same people over and over again when they could create a more diverse product by shooting a variety of girls. Grooby and SMC are the only two TS companies who have a variety of models to choose from.

franklin, if you don't like what ts seduction and devil's films are doing, why not just unsubscribe from them and not buy their dvds?

also, if you do porn, don't you make it clear to the director and company what you are and aren't willing to do?

[TSPornFan]

Franklin, once again your problem is and always will be your assumption that YOUR likes & dislikes are something bigger than they are. You say "members are sick of amateur guys" when you mean "FRANKLIN is sick of amateur guys"

Devil's Films is based in Los Angeles. They shoot only in Los Angeles. So unless a girl is in LA when they are shooting a movie....those girls aren't getting shot.

Adrianna Lynn Rush lives in Chicago and never ever ever comes to LA or is available for shoots.

Natalia Coxxx hasn't done a scene in about 3 years.

Nina Lawless just came up from SD and shot for Cheerleaders

Jonelle Brooks lives in Florida and hasn't been to LA in like 3 years until recently and Devil's wasn't shooting.

My statements about "members" is not myself speaking for me. I know which opinions are popular and unpopular among customers. I read members' comments on sites. I know many members at TS Seduction have complained about the amateur talent. You can ask any long time TS Seduction member or ex-member and they will tell you the same thing.

Wow! You're information is just false. Natalia Coxxx did a scene for Trans500 last year. Her SMC site had new updates.

What do you mean Devil's wasn't shooting 3 years ago? They've been shooting TS porn for over a decade.


franklin, if you don't like what ts seduction and devil's films are doing, why not just unsubscribe from them and not buy their dvds?

also, if you do porn, don't you make it clear to the director and company what you are and aren't willing to do?

I only subscribe to TS Seduction and Devil's Films when they release a scene(s) that I am interested in. I've never brought a porno DVD. I only join sites.

TS porn is not like straight porn. There are far less options and customers can't vote with their dollar when there are very few options. Companies aren't forced to change or improve the product when they are the only options.

What? I'm not in porn?

[christianxxx]

jesus franklin...one more time - member comments are the vocal minority...NOT THE MAJORITY - get that through your head chief.

[RallyCola]

franklin...let me ask the question this way.

if, hypothetically there was a company that listened to every retarded thing you had to complain about and decided to try it your way...that is cater to your every whim...what would you say if a guy started to bitch about that company and not listening to his wants and needs?

you are a consumer...you have a choice in what to spend your money on. if you don't like the choices, don't choose one and jerk off only to the thoughts in that psychotic closeted head of yours. no one has ever put a gun to your dick and said "click on that membership now you little fairy"

remember the phrase is and always will be caveat emptor...just because it is sold does not mean you need to buy it. as with all innovators, if you think the market sucks, do something about it. whining like an asshole like you always do will always be greeted with disdain because your attempts to impose YOUR beliefs are not really that important to anyone else. you constantly litter this board with the same one-note complaint. i wonder just what you could do if you used your powers for good instead of banal complaints.

i wonder just how much time you actually spend watching porn because all you do is complain about it.


to the rest of the board...as franklin claims to be such a conoussier of tranny porn...
wouldn't it be utterly ironic if franklin wasn't really a paying member. with all the porn he claims to watch, i wouldn't be surprised if this queer was illegally downloading all his stuff. i'm good and i only carry 3-4 memberships per month. he has cried poverty in the past yet has all the latest stuff. makes ya think!!!

[Jericho]

Franklin...The Tom Moore of porn :dead-1:critics.
God bless you, long may you run!

[TSPornFan]

jesus franklin...one more time - member comments are the vocal minority...NOT THE MAJORITY - get that through your head chief.

Member comments are the VOCAL MAJORITY because they are the ones who are SPEAKING. You cannot say they are the VOCAL minority when they are the MAJORITY speakers.

The majority of porn consumers do not have a voice because they rarely speak. They download anything and call it a day. Look at some of the members at this board. They download anything as long as someone is wearing a dress. They don't care if is a man aka crossdresser.

A lot of consumers are fan boys aka bitches. They will say anything is great from their favorite company regardless of the content's quality.

You are looking at consumers from a businessman's view. I understand that. However, I am a consumer and know how porn consumers think. They don't care what you throw at them because they are thankful bitches who lack backbone.

Look at how people respond to me. They're always saying if you don't like it then make it yourself. You know thats not how business works. If the MAJORITY dislikes something, then the company can change or improve.

Come on man! Look at TS porn. Most TS DVD are freaking re-releases. How many times must TS consumers be subjected with mid-2000 scenes made in Brazil? How many times must the same scenes be released? I understand re-releasing scenes sometimes. However, TS porn overdoes this by a mile. Do you honestly believe TS consumers want the same scenes on different labeled DVDs every month?



to the rest of the board...as franklin claims to be such a conoussier of tranny porn...
wouldn't it be utterly ironic if franklin wasn't really a paying member. with all the porn he claims to watch, i wouldn't be surprised if this queer wasn't illegally downloading all his stuff. i'm good and i only carry 3-4 memberships per month. he has cried poverty in the past yet has all the latest stuff. makes ya think!!!

Mr. Grooby can look at my emails and see that I purchased memberships. I'm also an affiliate and companies would NOT allow anyone who illegally downloads porn to be an affiliate.

[RallyCola]

...If the MAJORITY dislikes something, then the company can change or improve.


and here is documented proof that you are an idiot.

if the majority dislikes something, then the company can change or improve...

well, if your complaints/request/faggy bullshit is not heard and companies are not changing, then guess what, YOU ARE THE MINORITY.

regardless if you think porn fans are bitches or not, if the product sells, the producer is under no obligation to think he is not meeting demand. that's simple economics.

face it fucktard...you can't win this because you don't matter. when steven grooby didn't like the quality of porn he could get and wanted girls to send him free pics, he started yum. to say that the consumer cannot innovate by becoming the producer undermines everyone everywhere that has tried to innovate.

now, let's use me as an example...i only find 1/3 of the material on yum per month to my liking. how do i voice my complaints...by simply not supporting it month over month. that is the best form of complaints to make because public comments, while i find rebutting you amusing, do nothing in the end. the more stubborn you are on your POV, the more pathetic you appear because you are complaining that you can't find something to jerk off too. that's really really sad. maybe you should up your meds.

[TSPornFan]

and here is documented proof that you are an idiot.

if the majority dislikes something, then the company can change or improve...

well, if your complaints/request/faggy bullshit is not heard and companies are not changing, then guess what, YOU ARE THE MINORITY.

regardless if you think porn fans are bitches or not, if the product sells, the producer is under no obligation to think he is not meeting demand. that's simple economics.

face it fucktard...you can't win this because you don't matter. when steven grooby didn't like the quality of porn he could get and wanted girls to send him free pics, he started yum. to say that the consumer cannot innovate by becoming the producer undermines everyone everywhere that has tried to innovate.

now, let's use me as an example...i only find 1/3 of the material on yum per month to my liking. how do i voice my complaints...by simply not supporting it month over month. that is the best form of complaints to make because public comments, while i find rebutting you amusing, do nothing in the end. the more stubborn you are on your POV, the more pathetic you appear because you are complaining that you can't find something to jerk off too. that's really really sad. maybe you should up your meds.

I NEVER claimed to be the majority.

I do not know how Steven felt about TS porn before he started Yum. I'm not the right guy to comment on it. However, I will say this. It is never the customer's responsibility to make a product. Most customers cannot start a company over night. If the customer is in the minority then it is best that he or she moves on to another company/store. If the customer is the majority then it is best for the company to make changes or face the consequences.

You're one of the most ignorant and insensitive people on this board. Customers have the right to complain. It does not matter if you agree or disagree with their complaint. They didn't like something. Why is it a big deal to you? Why does it bothers you?

People have the right to be "stubborn" or retain their point of view. They don't have to change their opinions to agree with someone. Who cares if someone disagrees with you? Move on if it really bothers you that much.

A producer or director cannot easily see if they are meeting demands when there is little to no competition. You can only know if you're meeting demands is by research and comparing yourself to steady competition. Companies don't give a shit about meeting demand when the sector has one to a few companies in it. Look at the WWE. Vince doesn't have competition and people have been complaining about the product for years. However, Vince still makes money for being the only top wrestling production and unsatisfied consumers keep watching the program. I stopped watching most WWE programs unless there is a particular wrestler who I support like CM Punk. Other then that I have no business watching it. That's how I treat porn. I do not rejoin sites until I see something that I want. I recently rejoined the T-Girl Network for the first time this year only because Jessica Fox's new site and a few new hardcore scenes on the site.

Look at Joey Silvera. He is known for putting T-Girls on the map. Why is that? It's because he had no competition. Does that truly make him a legend for simply making the product? I personally think he is one of the worst directors and producers in TS porn and I am in the minority on that position.

[bluesoul]

What? I'm not in porn?

i didn't mean you buddy. i meant any person doing porn.

[Odelay]

It helps if you scribble your feedback on your dick and take a picture of it, and send it in. Stay hard, though, 'cause otherwise it's difficult to read.

[dderek123]

So tragic. Poor innocent victim is forced to watch TS porn that he doesn't enjoy at gun point.

[GroobySteven]

Member comments are the VOCAL MAJORITY because they are the ones who are SPEAKING. You cannot say they are the VOCAL minority when they are the MAJORITY speakers.



They are in the minority but they are the ones complaining. They are the VOCAL MINORITY. Most people don't complain or give positive feedback, they say it with their wallets. A few posts on a set, won't really sway us much either way (although the ratings which many more people do, would encourage us to reshoot/not reshoot models) but if we see memberships fall or rise, we'd look as to why that happens.

[GroobySteven]

Mr. Grooby can look at my emails and see that I purchased memberships. I'm also an affiliate and companies would NOT allow anyone who illegally downloads porn to be an affiliate.

TSPornFan absolutely is a good customer of ours.

[TSPornFan]

They are in the minority but they are the ones complaining. They are the VOCAL MINORITY. Most people don't complain or give positive feedback, they say it with their wallets. A few posts on a set, won't really sway us much either way (although the ratings which many more people do, would encourage us to reshoot/not reshoot models) but if we see memberships fall or rise, we'd look as to why that happens.

I understand the Vocal Minority is the overall minority of customers. However, They are the MAJORITY of speakers. That's what I am saying.

Most people simply don't complain or voice any positive or negative feedback The people who do complain are most likely people who are loyal customers and are happy with 70% of the product.


TSPornFan absolutely is a good customer of ours.

Thank You

[GroobySteven]

I understand the Vocal Minority is the overall minority of customers. However, They are the MAJORITY of speakers. That's what I am saying.

Most people simply don't complain or voice any positive or negative feedback The people who do complain are most likely people who are loyal customers and are happy with 70% of the product.



Thank You


Changing a complainant into a paying customer, usually does get you the most loyal customers.