Definition of clockable

[Torris]

As a new reader here I have seen the term clockable but have no idea what that means. Someone care to fill me in?

tia

[RallyCola]

passable is an oft abused term to state whether or not a transwoman can pass herself off as a genetic woman.

clockable is the "newer" version of defining what a transwoman may look like. it removes, per se, the idea of passing and defines a transwoman as to how easy it is to tell that they are transgender. that is to say...there is less of a judgement of femininity because not all genetic girls are feminine.

[RallyCola]

oh yeah...and most important...the terms are really subjective since beauty is in the eye of the beholder. some of the girls i lust after the most are easily clockable but that doesn't diminish how attractive i find them whereas some girls that other dudes think are super passable and the standard by which all other women must be judged are not eye-catching at all to me.

i find it best to avoid either term, passable or clockable, since they reduce a transwoman to how they fit in to acceptable norms of beauty.

[Odelay]

You gotta ask Freddie for the real definition. He's so obsessed with the term, I believe he has a more refined definition for it than anyone on the planet. I'm guessing he has nightmares about sleeping with clockable tgirls.

[Torris]

Hate to seem dense but:

So clockable is a tgirl you would "give the time of day?"

[amberskyi]

Hate to seem dense but:

So clockable is a tgirl you would "give the time of day?"

I'm clockable and very few men on here wouldn't give me all their time lol

[AshlynCreamher]

Amberski, you're a beautiful and cockable girl, any guy here would lucky to give you all there time!

[my my my!]

clockable simply means she has something about her (voice, beard/mustache stubble, adam's apple, shoulder to hip ratio, nose, mannerisms and others) that gives away her trans status. Not that there's anything wrong with being trans.

Unless she herself is trying to be completely stealth.

Here locally, there's a couple of really beautiful girls, that if you didn't know them, you would swear they're ggs, until....

They open their mouth and the deep male voice gives them away and everyone turns around (not female deep) . Or you go up to them up close and see the non gg (gg's have facial hair too) beard stubble.

I agree with Rally, that "passable" is thrown around quite liberally.

"passable CD looking for man" , then you see the pic, and you're like , "no way, you're just a cd, you dont pass a woman. you do pass as a cd, there's no doubt you're a cd" , so I guess that's what they mean by that.

[amberskyi]

Most girls are both passable and clockable....meaning sometimes people are going to have no idea that she's trans while some might suspect that something is different about her but unable to quantify it, and others will know with dead certainty lol
Passable just means the majority of society accepts your "womanhood" without being told.Ive acheived that as has the majority of girls on here.
Stealth is when there are no characteristics at all to give one away and that's much harder to come by.

[GroobySteven]

Most girls are both passable and clockable....meaning sometimes people are going to have no idea that she's trans while some might suspect that something is different about her but unable to quantify it, and others will know with dead certainty lol
Passable just means the majority of society accepts your "womanhood" without being told.Ive acheived that as has the majority of girls on here.
Stealth is when there are no characteristics at all to give one away and that's much harder to come by.


This should be highlighted and kept for everyone to read.

[AshlynCreamher]

clockable simply means she has something about her (voice, beard/mustache stubble, adam's apple, shoulder to hip ratio, nose, mannerisms and others) that gives away her trans status. Not that there's anything wrong with being trans.

Unless she herself is trying to be completely stealth.

Here locally, there's a couple of really beautiful girls, that if you didn't know them, you would swear they're ggs, until....

They open their mouth and the deep male voice gives them away and everyone turns around (not female deep) . Or you go up to them up close and see the non gg (gg's have facial hair too) beard stubble.

I agree with Rally, that "passable" is thrown around quite liberally.

"passable CD looking for man" , then you see the pic, and you're like , "no way, you're just a cd, you dont pass a woman. you do pass as a cd, there's no doubt you're a cd" , so I guess that's what they mean by that.


This is the first time I have ever heard of the term "cockable" immediately when I see a word I'm not familiar with, I will Google the word and learn as much about as until I feel I've digested enough information to properly understand the meaning.

What I gathered is, its internet slang for "cockable" example: " worthy of being cocked/sexed, Damn, with that booty, she's hella cockable.". I never once seen anything that relates the term "cockable" with transgender people (with exception for this thread) being too manly, passable, having a deep voice or revealing there "trans status".

I think you're confusing the term "being passable" with "being beautiful" all people are passable and all people are valid.

[youknowit]

It is more of an english slang word "clockable" to clock onto something, be aware of to know, when the unobvious becomes obvious

[Torris]

Most girls are both passable and clockable....meaning sometimes people are going to have no idea that she's trans while some might suspect that something is different about her but unable to quantify it, and others will know with dead certainty lol
Passable just means the majority of society accepts your "womanhood" without being told.Ive acheived that as has the majority of girls on here.
Stealth is when there are no characteristics at all to give one away and that's much harder to come by.
Thanks for the clarification. You and my my my and youknowit's posts have clued me in. I was totally off.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Clockable: the tinted windows will not be coming down during this ride and I'll order the food at the drive thru you just text your clients you're lining up via appointment for the evening...........

[LI SEAN08]

oh yeah...and most important...the terms are really subjective since beauty is in the eye of the beholder. some of the girls i lust after the most are easily clockable but that doesn't diminish how attractive i find them whereas some girls that other dudes think are super passable and the standard by which all other women must be judged are not eye-catching at all to me.

i find it best to avoid either term, passable or clockable, since they reduce a transwoman to how they fit in to acceptable norms of beauty.

Very well put. But for me its all about the walk..... the way a gurl moves her legs hips ass and arms is what does it for me. Especially in sexy high heels.:banana:

[Deja Vu]

I'm clockable and very few men on here wouldn't give me all their time lol

Stop being humble

[LilyRox]

Clockable is just a stupid word and it's not even a real word. Everything about it sounds wrong to me. It sounds like it should be used for stuff relating to time or stopwatches. It's not even in the urban dictionary... LOL. This is a word I don't see trending in the future and I hope it doesn't because it doesn't make sense at all. I don't see a problem with using the word passable and it's correct by definition.

[CORVETTEDUDE]

Most girls are both passable and clockable....meaning sometimes people are going to have no idea that she's trans while some might suspect that something is different about her but unable to quantify it, and others will know with dead certainty lol
Passable just means the majority of society accepts your "womanhood" without being told.Ive acheived that as has the majority of girls on here.
Stealth is when there are no characteristics at all to give one away and that's much harder to come by.

Amber, I think you nailed it!!!

[LilyRox]

Most girls are both passable and clockable....

You can't be both to one single person. Clockable is the opposite of passable. She's either unquestionable to this random person who doesn't know her or she's questionable. It's a very black and white area. If you're talking in the view of a mass amount of people of course there's always going to be people that have different views on what's passable and what isn't. I don't see the point of creating this new "clockable" word (that's not even a real word) when you can just say "she's not passable, she's semi passable, she's pretty passable", etc. It all means the same thing, but with more detail.

[scroller]

"Clock" at urban dictionary -- http://origin.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clock&defid=5662425

[LilyRox]

"Clock" at urban dictionary -- http://origin.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clock&defid=5662425

I actually looked up "clockable", but I guess they have it under "clock" there.

This is what I mean by creating fake words though. Being "clocked" or "clocking" someone doesn't mean this to me:

"used in gay vernacular especially among drag queens"

"to call out someone's flaws"

With words that are freely created anyone can take them and redefine them to mainstream society. By wanting to create a new word, the majority of people in the world (not the LGBT community) can flip the meaning around to be more prejudice. They can't take the meaning of "passable" and flip it around to mean something else.

[SuzySnappz]

This is the first time I have ever heard of the term "cockable" immediately when I see a word I'm not familiar with, I will Google the word and learn as much about as until I feel I've digested enough information to properly understand the meaning.

What I gathered is, its internet slang for "cockable" example: " worthy of being cocked/sexed, Damn, with that booty, she's hella cockable.". I never once seen anything that relates the term "cockable" with transgender people (with exception for this thread) being too manly, passable, having a deep voice or revealing there "trans status".

I think you're confusing the term "being passable" with "being beautiful" all people are passable and all people are valid.

Ummmmmm, I think you left the first "L" out of the word cLockable. Clock, not cock.

[trish]

Alan Turing, in the early twentieth century, proposed a test to decide whether a given agent was truly feminine. If in conversation (i.e. you don't get to see its "working parts") the agent is capable of convincing most humans (male or female) that it is female, then indeed the agent has achieved sufficient femininity to be regarded as truly feminine. In the jargon of the trade, she is "passable". To fail the Turing test is to be "clocked". It is important to note the test has little to do with actual gender. Many female agents only become passable after many surgeries, treatments and peer interactions.

[Torris]

Clockable is just a stupid word and it's not even a real word. Everything about it sounds wrong to me. It sounds like it should be used for stuff relating to time or stopwatches. It's not even in the urban dictionary... LOL. This is a word I don't see trending in the future and I hope it doesn't because it doesn't make sense at all. I don't see a problem with using the word passable and it's correct by definition.
Of course I went to Urban Dictionary first. Nothing. Same with Porn Drift. I'm beginning to think I invented that term on the het side.

Torris' Definition of Porn Drift: When run of the mill porn no longer excites you or motivates you to do the "rattlesnake shake". (Any old school Fleetwood Mac fans here?)

Here is my 25 year porn arc

1. Lesbians (yuck to all that man ass rutting away)
2. Het Anal (how do you separate the thousands of run of the mill porn titles: suck, fuck, cumshot...rinse and repeat: anal
3. DP (when anal becomes "meh")
4. Double anal creampies or what I call Asskimo pies. (After the ice cream treat). Another word I think I might have invented

Now: Tgirl porn for me (esp. over the last 3 years or so. Came here b/c adultdvdtalk are all mostly anti-Tgirl porn. Tgirls = gay in their bulllshit manichean world

So of course, 2014 minimum expectation: double anal bareback, a2m asskimo pies are my baseline of fapitude.

Ergo, Porn Drift

[Torris]

Alan Turing, in the early twentieth century, proposed a test to decide whether a given agent was truly feminine. If in conversation (i.e. you don't get to see its "working parts") the agent is capable of convincing most humans (male or female) that it is female, then indeed the agent has achieved sufficient femininity to be regarded as truly feminine. In the jargon of the trade, she is "passable". To fail the Turing test is to be "clocked". It is important to note the test has little to do with actual gender. Many female agents only become passable after many surgeries, treatments and peer interactions.
This is a tremendously helpful explanation. Thanks.

[Torris]

You can't be both to one single person. Clockable is the opposite of passable. She's either unquestionable to this random person who doesn't know her or she's questionable. It's a very black and white area. If you're talking in the view of a mass amount of people of course there's always going to be people that have different views on what's passable and what isn't. I don't see the point of creating this new "clockable" word (that's not even a real word) when you can just say "she's not passable, she's semi passable, she's pretty passable", etc. It all means the same thing, but with more detail.
Another excellent explanation. Clockable vs. Passable (as I am learning it from your all's sage advice). Either/or.

You can't be a little bit pregnant. For me certain girls are obviously clockable (who I don't call attention to by not being rude or hurtful) versus passable (pre-boob job Bianca Freire, pre-boobjob Vaniity, Milena Campanelli; recent discovery, etc.)

What is more applicable than passable? Passable seems to me to be a minimum setting. Is there a higher "setting" than passable?

For Tgirls indistinguishable from GG's. I'll post a recent example from a post about a work study student in my office (GG hispanic 20 years old) and Giselle Dias (Brazilian Tgirl who I find absolutely nothing to indicate her birth as a male other than her adorable cock.)

She is so ultra feminine to me even her cock is...um feminine. Cute, functionable, not too big, smooth, brown and not veiny. Lol

I would suck on hers and I identify as a straight male who gets off voyeuristically watching Tgirl porn.

I didn't see a whole to choose from by Giselle on The Google, but even by this head and shoulders shot. There is nothing I would see as born "male" on her and I work on a college campus where I live Wooderson's Dream

I get another year older and every year thousands of 18 year olds replace the 22 year olds.

Pretty face, girl hair, sloe eyes, cheekbones, long neck, lovely brown skin (tawny), pretty face and nose/chin/jawline ratio.

Narrow feminine shoulders, perky naturally grown tits (she did get them plumped up making her less perfectable and "merely" passable IMO).

Long story short: What (in my example) goes beyond passable. Enviable? Unicornish? As in 90% of GG's would kill to look this feminine and pretty. And she makes it look easy having been born male.

[Pelheckitt]

Labels labels labels.

People trying to define themselves or someone else, to what end I don't know.

Meh have fun. I'll keep on being me despite what im called or not called.

[Torris]

Another recent discovery who sets the bar way higher than passable. Would you say 99 out of 100?

I present Gabriella Lira. More please! This is my Tgirl Real Doll template

[thombergeron]

I actually looked up "clockable", but I guess they have it under "clock" there.

This is what I mean by creating fake words though. Being "clocked" or "clocking" someone doesn't mean this to me:

You're too young to get this one. "Clock" derives from knowing what time it is, which is knowing what's up. As in:

"Yo Terminator X! Step up on the stand and show these people what time it is, boyeee!"

So if you know what's up, then you know what time it is. If you know what time it is, you're a clocker, and when you clock something, you demonstrate a special insight that's probably not obvious to the suckers.

As Amber says, passable and clockable are not the same thing. Thus, a passable girl who chooses to wear six-inch patent leather heels, a leopard mini, and a big medallion that says "Bitch" to her job at the MAC counter is still clockable.

[thombergeron]

Another recent discovery who sets the bar way higher than passable. Would you say 99 out of 100?

I present Gabriella Lira. More please! This is my Tgirl Real Doll template

I would say she is "passable," but also "clockable" because you can see her cock.

[LilyRox]

You're too young to get this one. "Clock" derives from knowing what time it is, which is knowing what's up. As in:

"Yo Terminator X! Step up on the stand and show these people what time it is, boyeee!"

So if you know what's up, then you know what time it is. If you know what time it is, you're a clocker, and when you clock something, you demonstrate a special insight that's probably not obvious to the suckers.

As Amber says, passable and clockable are not the same thing. Thus, a passable girl who chooses to wear six-inch patent leather heels, a leopard mini, and a big medallion that says "Bitch" to her job at the MAC counter is still clockable.

No I get it, but it's relating 2 things that are unrelated.

I never said passable and clockable are the same thing. I said they're opposites. If they're opposites you can't be both though.

"Thus, a passable girl who chooses to wear six-inch patent leather heels, a leopard mini, and a big medallion that says "Bitch" to her job at the MAC counter is still clockable."

what?

cloakable defined to me is like having the ability to tell someone is trans by their look. If someone is passable in your eyes they can not be clocked by you. Passable and clocking is open for interpretation depending on the person though.

[trish]

I think Thom is saying the bitch's chosen costume would arouse the suspicions of an alert clocker, even though she'd be eminently passable in attire that didn't conspire to announce her gender status.

[broncofan]

That's what I got too. They're close to opposites, but in rare circumstances you can be both.

Maybe passable means that you are capable of passing as female to the average person. But you may still be clockable to the most astute observer who has keener insight than the average person. I think that's what Thom is saying.

For instance, I could pass as a non-Jew to the average person. But that guy from Inglorious Basterds would clock me as soon as I started complaining about my sinus problems and asking if he knew a good ear nose and throat guy in town because I'm developing a bit of a cough and do you think it would be out of network because my out of network co-pay is just insane. He'd say "what did you say your name was, Broncofanstein"?

[Una Leandrah]

Clockible is being caught or not being precieved as a genetic female. I'm crossdresser planning to got out this weekend dressed as female. Hopefully I won't get clocked but expecting to have fun time dressing out in the general public.

I have my pics in my gallery so you can see I'm an experienced dresser. But going out to the general public is always a rush because it so easy to get clocked. But to go out and not get clock that's an amazing feeling. So I'll see hoe it goes this weekend...

[trish]

You can reliably pass the Turing test, but once in a while you might be clocked. That would make you passable (unlikely to be clocked) yet clockable.

Turing's pupil, Issac Azimov, later went on to formulate the three rules of interaction for passable tgirl escorts.

1) A tgirl escort may not injure a client being or, through inaction, allow a client being to come to harm.
2) A Tgirl escort must obey the orders given to it by client beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3) A Tgirl escort must protect her own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

Beware, a number of us are rogues and couldn't give two shits about the law.

[LilyRox]

You can reliably pass the Turing test, but once in a while you might be clocked. That would make you passable (unlikely to be clocked) yet clockable.

Turing's pupil, Issac Azimov, later went on to formulate the three rules of interaction for passable tgirl escorts.

1) A tgirl escort may not injure a client being or, through inaction, allow a client being to come to harm.
2) A Tgirl escort must obey the orders given to it by client beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3) A Tgirl escort must protect her own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

Beware, a number of us are rogues and couldn't give two shits about the law.


This is different than every day use though. I think it's used in much broader terms just talking about being "clocked" or viewed as "passable". It isn't something measured. You're either going to be viewed by someone as passable or less than passable to not passable (clocked).

[broncofan]

3) A Tgirl escort must protect her own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

Beware, a number of us are rogues and couldn't give two shits about the law.
I say forget the first two laws if your existence needs to be protected. This Asimov fella is sounding more and more transphobic as we speak.

I think we're all forgetting that clockability rating can't be assigned without fixing the skill rating of the clocker. There is no such thing as clockability without clocking ability.

[trish]

I think we're all forgetting that clockability rating can't be assigned without fixing the skill rating of the clocker. There is no such thing as clockability without clocking ability.
Indeed, Einstein, a contemporary of Turing and Azimov, postulated no two clockers can be counted upon to be in exact agreement; i.e. clockability is relative to the frame of the observer.

[broncofan]

Indeed, Einstein, a contemporary of Turing and Azimov, postulated no two clockers can be counted upon to be in exact agreement; i.e. clockability is relative to the frame of the observer.
I like how Einstein was able to be objective in spite of his well-known amorous feelings when it came to transgender women. Despite what he said publicly and professionally, he also thought he was the best clocker; every time he got an erection, he'd exclaim "Clocked ya!".;

[trish]

I adored his cocksmanship...:oops: oops!...I mean clocksmanship.

[broncofan]

I adored his cocksmanship...:oops: oops!...I mean clocksmanship.
;) I kind of figured:)

[TatianaSummer]

oh yeah...and most important...the terms are really subjective since beauty is in the eye of the beholder. some of the girls i lust after the most are easily clockable but that doesn't diminish how attractive i find them whereas some girls that other dudes think are super passable and the standard by which all other women must be judged are not eye-catching at all to me.

i find it best to avoid either term, passable or clockable, since they reduce a transwoman to how they fit in to acceptable norms of beauty.

Hun, clockable has nothing to do with beauty or prettiness. Some girls might be pretty but not passable, and others the other way. If a girl wants to know if she's passable just ask kids and black ladies. :)

[Odelay]

For instance, I could pass as a non-Jew to the average person. But that guy from Inglorious Basterds would clock me as soon as I started complaining about my sinus problems and asking if he knew a good ear nose and throat guy in town because I'm developing a bit of a cough and do you think it would be out of network because my out of network co-pay is just insane. He'd say "what did you say your name was, Broncofanstein"?


You can reliably pass the Turing test, but once in a while you might be clocked. That would make you passable (unlikely to be clocked) yet clockable.

Turing's pupil, Issac Azimov, later went on to formulate the three rules of interaction for passable tgirl escorts.

1) A tgirl escort may not injure a client being or, through inaction, allow a client being to come to harm.
2) A Tgirl escort must obey the orders given to it by client beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3) A Tgirl escort must protect her own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

Beware, a number of us are rogues and couldn't give two shits about the law.

Great stuff. Btwn the coffee and reading these posts, I'm wide awake this morning. :D