Anyone else caught up in Game of Thrones?

[Tiffany Starr]

I have been hearing about the show for some time now and just 2 weeks ago did I finally decide to watch it. I sat down and binge watched seasons 1-3 in about 3-4 days. The show is simply amazing. After binge watching all 3 seasons i find it hard to sit around for a week waiting for season 4's episodes to roll out. I even bought the Game of Thrones video game on PS3 to fill the void (if you can get past the graphics it has a great story)

I have to say at this point in the series a lot of things look pretty bleak. Most of my favorite characters have been killed off leaving one or two I can truly root for. Last weeks episode brought some comfort and much needed justice to the show, but I crave for more. George RR Martin better finish those last 2 books soon.

[youngblood61]

Love the show Tiff. Watched the first season been hooked ever since. Yes, there was justice done last week. I still say poisoning was too easy a death. Who do you think did it. I have my theories would like too hear yours.:)

[dakota87]

I'm on a viewing binge atm. Almost done with season 2. Love this show.
Joffrey is a little cunt. Can't wait till he gets his day of reckoning.

[TabStorm]

I love it. I have read the books and it is great to see it come to life.

[pantybulge69]

you can catch up to past G-O-T shows via On-Demand,... HBO-Go, ...
or you can probably you-tube it.

[Tiffany Starr]

Love the show Tiff. Watched the first season been hooked ever since. Yes, there was justice done last week. I still say poisoning was too easy a death. Who do you think did it. I have my theories would like too hear yours.:)

To be fair he didn't die right away. He suffered unlike Ned who had a quick death. Now I just need the freys and boltons dead along with Stannis and all the lannisters except tyrian. then i'll be content

[Odelay]

They need to abandon the Daenerys deification thing as it's getting really boring. I like the unexpected kill-offs. Keeps it fresh. The breach of the wall, whenever it happens should be interesting. And this season, they need more sex!!! Booooo!

[dderek123]

Daenerys storyline has a few twists and turns in it. I feel the same way. Out of all the characters she has had the most boring storyline after she got her dragons. We got to see her boobs a few times though, which is nice.

[Stavros]

I spent the Easter weekend watching Series 1-3. I bought the box sets and watched them back to back as one long film, which works for me as I do not subscribe to tv channels. I don't know what happens in Series 4 so I have not read the other posts although I know from the press that Joffrey is dead. I was rather hoping Arya would be re-united with Needle and do it as an act of revenge, apparently not.

The series is entertaining, but has a lot of flaws -it relies on some obvious stereotypes -the 'cold North' vesus the 'warm south'. Seven kingdoms -there were seven Kingdoms at one time in old Scotland; people who are brave but a bit thick; people who are clever, people who manipulate, people who are naive and innocent, people who get things done; and so on, in this respect it is sadly too much like a soap opera. I am confused by the religions which are not clear to me, and amused at the way reality is suddenly flipped by magic or dragons or ghosts -which could just be a plot device to fill in a gap or because the writer doesn't know how to end a scene. The sense of a looming apocalypse, a collapse of order, a competing group of religious ideas and leaders of questionable talent and morality does suggest an allegory of our present times, but not a well thought out one.

The sex in Series 1 was almost entirely done in the doggy position which I found most odd, and in a way, not very loving. I have got used to a bun-fest somewhere in the series - but was puzzled at the sight of a limp cock moments after it had dis-engaged from a whore's bottom, not very realistic. The repetitive use of the 'c' word is degrading and it shows.

The sets and scenes are wonderful, from Malta to Northern Ireland; the made-up languages actually work because they sound quite real; the acting varies from good to unmentionable; and it is rare to see so many strong women characters in a drama series, and also some very strong young characters such as Arya and Bran, both of whom are amongst the best finds this show has produced. It is also good to see someone like Peter Dinklage being given a leading role, and doing it so well. It is on a par with having a lead role taken by a transexual -and as this thing looks like it could go on for years, there is yet time for this to happen -and given everything else that has happened in the series, maybe it is a logical next step...

[fred41]

It is also good to see someone like Peter Dinklage being given a leading role, and doing it so well. It is on a par with having a lead role taken by a transexual -and as this thing looks like it could go on for years, there is yet time for this to happen -and given everything else that has happened in the series, maybe it is a logical next step...

Well Tyrion is also a dwarf in the book series (and one of the best characters therein), so I suppose Peter Dinklage could thank the author George R.R. Martin...because in order to translate the series to television - an actor such as Mr. Dinklage had to be given the part...the only way to have avoided that would have been to fake it movie style using visual effects (like in the Snow White film)...totally unnecessary in this case.

P.S. I'm not 100% sure, but I think showing an erect penis in anything other than a porn movie is probably a no no. :)

[youngblood61]

What did every body think of the Jamie, Sersi scene? I knew as soon as that door closed Jamie was going to pounce.

[ladd3rfr3ak]

Well Tyrion is also a dwarf in the book series (and one of the best characters therein), so I suppose Peter Dinklage could thank the author George R.R. Martin...because in order to translate the series to television - an actor such as Mr. Dinklage had to be given the part...the only way to have avoided that would have been to fake it movie style using visual effects (like in the Snow White film)...totally unnecessary in this case.

P.S. I'm not 100% sure, but I think showing an erect penis in anything other than a porn movie is probably a no no. :)

And if you guys don't know, but there wasn't an audition for the role of Tyrion, Martin already decided that it would be given to Dinklage.

[ladd3rfr3ak]

They need to abandon the Daenerys deification thing as it's getting really boring. I like the unexpected kill-offs. Keeps it fresh. The breach of the wall, whenever it happens should be interesting. And this season, they need more sex!!! Booooo!

The character of daenerys should die now, she bores me to hell...

[ladd3rfr3ak]

To be fair he didn't die right away. He suffered unlike Ned who had a quick death. Now I just need the freys and boltons dead along with Stannis and all the lannisters except tyrian. then i'll be content

So you are saying that this show should also end like other mediocre garbage shows?

[fred41]

If they kill off Daenerys ...then you would lose the plot of the last Targaryen possibly coming to Westeros to reclaim the throne using dragons. Not to mention that , so far, she's shown that she would possibly be the best ruler that land has ever seen...she in fact, seems to possess all the character traits that Tywin asks Tommen about in the last episode. They have done a good job translating the book series so far, however...the behind the scenes political intrigue is easier to digest in book form...and is hard to translate on screen ...where instant gratification is often necessary to keep a viewers interest when there is so much time lapse between seasons.
Also, theey seeemed to have left out one or two rather interesting (to me ) characters so far.

[Stavros]

Well Tyrion is also a dwarf in the book series (and one of the best characters therein), so I suppose Peter Dinklage could thank the author George R.R. Martin...because in order to translate the series to television - an actor such as Mr. Dinklage had to be given the part...the only way to have avoided that would have been to fake it movie style using visual effects (like in the Snow White film)...totally unnecessary in this case.

P.S. I'm not 100% sure, but I think showing an erect penis in anything other than a porn movie is probably a no no. :)

Point taken about the erect penis -your post also suggests Martin wrote these books with one eye on cinema/tv...sometimes these kinds of books work better in film now the technology is available. Harry Potter films are watchable, mostly because of the actors, whereas the books are a disaster. Rowling is a very very lucky woman indeed.

[alpha2117]

If they kill off Daenerys ...then you would lose the plot of the last Targaryen possibly coming to Westeros to reclaim the throne using dragons. Not to mention that , so far, she's shown that she would possibly be the best ruler that land has ever seen...she in fact, seems to possess all the character traits that Tywin asks Tommen about in the last episode. They have done a good job translating the book series so far, however...the behind the scenes political intrigue is easier to digest in book form...and is hard to translate on screen ...where instant gratification is often necessary to keep a viewers interest when there is so much time lapse between seasons.
Also, theey seeemed to have left out one or two rather interesting (to me ) characters so far.

Last Targaryen? Maybe. There is plenty of evidence that she isn't the last (3 maybe 4 are hinted at).

Overall I think it's a strong adaption.

The beauty of the storyline is most every side has shades of grey. In the first episode Ned doesn't listen to the deserting Crow and executes him. He does nothing to check his story. He has covered up the circumstances of Jon's birth etc etc. The Starks are not clean or innocent in all this. Likewise the Lannisters are not utterly evil. Tyrion and Thommen are seemingly decent people and Jamie has some redeeming characteristics although the whole incest thing is a worry. The history of the Targaryens are full of heroes and monsters.

One thing is certain most of the characters will probably die before it's over.

The books mix elements of history and epic fantasy and the return of magic and related creatures coincides with the upheavals in Westeros and beyond and is likely directly related to that. The fall of the Targaryens is either the cause or perhaps because of the change in seasons and the return of magic to the world.

[GroobySteven]

Harry Potter films are watchable, mostly because of the actors, whereas the books are a disaster. Rowling is a very very lucky woman indeed.

The books were already very successful and well received and sequels anticipated before the films.

[youngblood61]

And if you guys don't know, but there wasn't an audition for the role of Tyrion, Martin already decided that it would be given to Dinklage.He's been fantastic.

[Tiffany Starr]

Last Targaryen? Maybe. There is plenty of evidence that she isn't the last (3 maybe 4 are hinted at).

Overall I think it's a strong adaption.

The beauty of the storyline is most every side has shades of grey. In the first episode Ned doesn't listen to the deserting Crow and executes him. He does nothing to check his story. He has covered up the circumstances of Jon's birth etc etc. The Starks are not clean or innocent in all this. Likewise the Lannisters are not utterly evil. Tyrion and Thommen are seemingly decent people and Jamie has some redeeming characteristics although the whole incest thing is a worry. The history of the Targaryens are full of heroes and monsters.

One thing is certain most of the characters will probably die before it's over.

The books mix elements of history and epic fantasy and the return of magic and related creatures coincides with the upheavals in Westeros and beyond and is likely directly related to that. The fall of the Targaryens is either the cause or perhaps because of the change in seasons and the return of magic to the world.

Not to sound negative but I don't really care for her or her part of the story. She has a cockiness to her and I hate that. Sometimes she seems pure of heart with great intentions and other times she seem's cold and heartless (which can be said about most of the characters bordering in the Gray area) but the way they go about it seems so boring. I find it hard to care about whats going on with her when so much of the plot is happening somewhere else.

I don't know about all of you but I am rooting for the Starks. They are the underdog thus far and have been kicked round way way too much so I think to have them at least break even would be a satisfying conclusion. Kill the Lannisters, Kill the Freys, and the Boltons. I am finding less people to root for as the show goes on but i have hope.

[EZWind]

Not to sound negative but I don't really care for her or her part of the story. She has a cockiness to her ...
...agreed...she's way too full of herself. The dragons are really cool, tho


I don't know about all of you but I am rooting for the Starks. I am finding less people to root for as the show goes on
...agreed...been rooting for Arya since season 1 episode 1. Have not read the books, but hoping for more screen time for her this season. And Jon Snow may be only half Stark but he's ok too

[EZWind]

Re: the whole Whodonit aspect as to the Joffrey situation, I believe it was Eva Cassini posted a very well reasoned and lengthy list of possible suspects...(can't seem to find the thread anymore)
What tickles me about it is we used to have a Supervisor at work who was a major league jaggoff, and we used to joke about how, if the guy turned up dead and the FBI came to investigate, we'd ALL be suspects. There was about 100 of us who had to deal w/ him on a daily basis, and not one who didn't have a good motive to do him in. Haven't read the books, but my money's on LittleFinger.

[Stavros]

Not to sound negative but I don't really care for her or her part of the story. She has a cockiness to her and I hate that. Sometimes she seems pure of heart with great intentions and other times she seem's cold and heartless (which can be said about most of the characters bordering in the Gray area) but the way they go about it seems so boring. I find it hard to care about whats going on with her when so much of the plot is happening somewhere else.

I don't know about all of you but I am rooting for the Starks. They are the underdog thus far and have been kicked round way way too much so I think to have them at least break even would be a satisfying conclusion. Kill the Lannisters, Kill the Freys, and the Boltons. I am finding less people to root for as the show goes on but i have hope.

I haven't read the books, but I think it is an attempt to contrast different styles of leadership -Daenerys is a 'charismatic' leader, where Joffrey was perhaps a milder version of the earlier 'Mad King', impetuous, autocratic and not as Tywin would have it, a 'wise leader'. The Starks had the privileged position of being the first family to be depicted in the series and were presented as down to earth, practical people compared to the loud and garish Baratheon, and the two relatively 'innocent' children, Arya and Bran (though Arya has lost one aspect of innocence) therefore look like they would be just rulers, although as an earlier post pointed out they also made mistakes and Eddard could be cruel and unfaithful to his wife. If, however, the Game of Thrones is played on a winner takes all basis and it is all in the winning, the most ruthless leader will win and survive -being nice won't cut it.

[youngblood61]

If your going after the Iron Throne nice will never win out. It's why I like the show, it's ruthless.

[Stavros]

Maybe Daenerys will replace the Iron Throne with a Dragon Throne? Or Tyrion become King and replace it with a Poppy Throne?

[alpha2117]

I haven't read the books, but I think it is an attempt to contrast different styles of leadership -Daenerys is a 'charismatic' leader, where Joffrey was perhaps a milder version of the earlier 'Mad King', impetuous, autocratic and not as Tywin would have it, a 'wise leader'. The Starks had the privileged position of being the first family to be depicted in the series and were presented as down to earth, practical people compared to the loud and garish Baratheon, and the two relatively 'innocent' children, Arya and Bran (though Arya has lost one aspect of innocence) therefore look like they would be just rulers, although as an earlier post pointed out they also made mistakes and Eddard could be cruel and unfaithful to his wife. If, however, the Game of Thrones is played on a winner takes all basis and it is all in the winning, the most ruthless leader will win and survive -being nice won't cut it.

Okay I think you may have misunderstood my post - it appears unlikely that Ned was ever unfaithful to his wife. Which leaves Jon Snow's parentage in question - the most likely scenario being that he is in fact not Ned's son but the son of Cate's kidnapped sister and her Targaryan kidnapper. Meaning that he actually probably has the strongest claim to the throne of anyone. Thats what I meant by Ned covering up the circumstances of his birth. He's also one of the other 2 to 3 Targaryan's hinted at.

The books take elements from history and twist them. The Starks & Lannisters both contain plenty of elements of the York & Lancaster factions from the War of the Roses for instance. Elements of European history abound. Easy examples to see - Theon killing the 2 youngest Starks is Richard the Third killing the princes in the Tower (including the fact he likely didn't but never denied it). Renly is Edward the 2nd. The Red Wedding contains elements of Olga of Ukraine's story where she invited her enemy's to her wedding and went to town and slaughtered them.

The Starks are noble but to be honest kind of incompetent. Ned, his father & Robb make terrible errors of judgement that get a lot of people killed. The Lannisters are too caught up in their own self importance and infighting. Stannis is a zealot. The Greyjoys little more than barbarian brutes. Hell at the moment Thommen actually seems the best potential King out of the lot of them -of course he's 11 and his real father is his uncle but in one scene in the last episode he showed more common sense than any other candidate so far.

[Stavros]

Interesting, Alpha, it hadn't occurred to me that Jon Snow's parentage was still in doubt -and your references to sources is ingenious and seems spot on to me. I have now discovered that George Martin took his inspiration for the Red Wedding from the
"The Black Dinner" (which) "took place in 1440 when William Douglas, the 6th Earl of Douglas, was invited to a dinner with the ten year old King James II of Scotland. After the dinner the Clan Douglas chiefs were taken outside, given a mock trial and beheaded."
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Red_Wedding
I also think it or something close to it is in a Greek tragedy but not sure about that.

[Prospero]

A theme that runs through history. The same thing happened at a wedding feast in Dubai a few decades ago (the bride's family - a key ruling family from a nearby sheikhdom - were slaughtered enmasse)

[dderek123]

Interesting, Alpha, it hadn't occurred to me that Jon Snow's parentage was still in doubt -and your references to sources is ingenious and seems spot on to me. I have now discovered that George Martin took his inspiration for the Red Wedding from the
"The Black Dinner" (which) "took place in 1440 when William Douglas, the 6th Earl of Douglas, was invited to a dinner with the ten year old King James II of Scotland. After the dinner the Clan Douglas chiefs were taken outside, given a mock trial and beheaded."
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Red_Wedding
I also think it or something close to it is in a Greek tragedy but not sure about that.

It's rumored that Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen are his real parents. Good ole Ned kept it a secret since being a king is hazardous to your health in Westeros. It's really interesting. I'm excited to see the Blood Raven who should make an appearance this season.

There's a decent youtube channel called Emergency Awesome which recaps each episode.

[dderek123]

Interesting, Alpha, it hadn't occurred to me that Jon Snow's parentage was still in doubt -and your references to sources is ingenious and seems spot on to me. I have now discovered that George Martin took his inspiration for the Red Wedding from the
"The Black Dinner" (which) "took place in 1440 when William Douglas, the 6th Earl of Douglas, was invited to a dinner with the ten year old King James II of Scotland. After the dinner the Clan Douglas chiefs were taken outside, given a mock trial and beheaded."
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Red_Wedding
I also think it or something close to it is in a Greek tragedy but not sure about that.

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/thumb/8/80/Zippo514_youngwolf.jpg/299px-Zippo514_youngwolf.jpg

[txjr3]

Been watching since the first episode aired - it's fucking great! Family night for us on Sundays - two teenage boys love it - surprise. Now I read each book after each series so as not to ruin Sunday night's episodes. My guy is the Hound - "Lots of CUNTS" - hah! I want Arya and Khaleesi in a Natural Born Killers lesbian tryst. I suppose we have to wait for Arya to get a little older. Question for all of you - can a Warg (Bran) control a dragon?

[dderek123]

Been watching since the first episode aired - it's fucking great! Family night for us on Sundays - two teenage boys love it - surprise. Now I read each book after each series so as not to ruin Sunday night's episodes. My guy is the Hound - "Lots of CUNTS" - hah! I want Arya and Khaleesi in a Natural Born Killers lesbian tryst. I suppose we have to wait for Arya to get a little older. Question for all of you - can a Warg (Bran) control a dragon?

"What the fuck is a lommy"

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[dderek123]

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[serial138]

Interesting, Alpha, it hadn't occurred to me that Jon Snow's parentage was still in doubt -and your references to sources is ingenious and seems spot on to me. I have now discovered that George Martin took his inspiration for the Red Wedding from the
"The Black Dinner" (which) "took place in 1440 when William Douglas, the 6th Earl of Douglas, was invited to a dinner with the ten year old King James II of Scotland. After the dinner the Clan Douglas chiefs were taken outside, given a mock trial and beheaded."
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Red_Wedding
I also think it or something close to it is in a Greek tragedy but not sure about that.

Jon's parentage is very much in doubt. Even Ned hints at it when they separate and Jon goes to the Wall, Ned to King's Landing. Remember Ned's best friend Robert has sworn to kill all Targareyan's, which would include Ned's nephew if that's what Jon is. He even order Danaerys killed. I would advise you to wait further in the series though, if it follows the books you'll soon discover even more evidence of Danaerys not being the last. Obviously not count Aemon at the Wall, who is also Targareyan.



Re: the whole Whodonit aspect as to the Joffrey situation, I believe it was Eva Cassini posted a very well reasoned and lengthy list of possible suspects...(can't seem to find the thread anymore)
What tickles me about it is we used to have a Supervisor at work who was a major league jaggoff, and we used to joke about how, if the guy turned up dead and the FBI came to investigate, we'd ALL be suspects. There was about 100 of us who had to deal w/ him on a daily basis, and not one who didn't have a good motive to do him in. Haven't read the books, but my money's on LittleFinger.

Both the book and the show explained who hatched the plan and put it in motion, the only part left out is who dropped it in the wine. A minor detail really, as the plan's developer is more important.


Not to sound negative but I don't really care for her or her part of the story. She has a cockiness to her and I hate that. Sometimes she seems pure of heart with great intentions and other times she seem's cold and heartless (which can be said about most of the characters bordering in the Gray area) but the way they go about it seems so boring. I find it hard to care about whats going on with her when so much of the plot is happening somewhere else.

I don't know about all of you but I am rooting for the Starks. They are the underdog thus far and have been kicked round way way too much so I think to have them at least break even would be a satisfying conclusion. Kill the Lannisters, Kill the Freys, and the Boltons. I am finding less people to root for as the show goes on but i have hope.

I find it funny that many find issue with Danaerys being cocky. If she was a guy it would probably just be allowed with no comment. Just like I fail to understand the hatred for Sansa. She plays the traditional woman of the times, and will probably wind up being the most crafty of all of them.


What did every body think of the Jamie, Sersi scene? I knew as soon as that door closed Jamie was going to pounce.

I wasn't a fan of him raping his sister. It immediately casts him back in to the evil villain role that he had in season 1, after they just spent the past 2 seasons proving he's not ALL evil. It didn't happen that way in the book, although it was a different body anyway, and Cersei was a willing partner.




The series is entertaining, but has a lot of flaws -it relies on some obvious stereotypes -the 'cold North' vesus the 'warm south'. Seven kingdoms -there were seven Kingdoms at one time in old Scotland; people who are brave but a bit thick; people who are clever, people who manipulate, people who are naive and innocent, people who get things done; and so on, in this respect it is sadly too much like a soap opera. I am confused by the religions which are not clear to me, and amused at the way reality is suddenly flipped by magic or dragons or ghosts -which could just be a plot device to fill in a gap or because the writer doesn't know how to end a scene. The sense of a looming apocalypse, a collapse of order, a competing group of religious ideas and leaders of questionable talent and morality does suggest an allegory of our present times, but not a well thought out one.



The religions are meant to be confusing, the people to fit into categories. And then they burst out of those categories when you don't expect it. Who expects the drunk fool to become an assassin. Who expects the evil knight to develop a love for his captor? It's all meant to confuse and muddy what you expect, much as life in general does.

[Tiffany Starr]

New episode tomorrow! On ign.com they have some sample pics from the upcoming episode. I wait with much anticipation. I also just finished the game and that was also an amazing tale if you sit through it all.

[Stavros]

Jon's parentage is very much in doubt. Even Ned hints at it when they separate and Jon goes to the Wall, Ned to King's Landing. Remember Ned's best friend Robert has sworn to kill all Targareyan's, which would include Ned's nephew if that's what Jon is. He even order Danaerys killed. I would advise you to wait further in the series though, if it follows the books you'll soon discover even more evidence of Danaerys not being the last. Obviously not count Aemon at the Wall, who is also Targareyan.


Thank you for an interesting post, I didn't quote it all. I haven't read the books and with this kind of material prefer the filmed version, and not knowing some facts and what is going to happen next...

[serial138]

The series doesn't follow the books entirely, as this weeks episode contained nothing that was in the books, especially not the Night's King at the end. It'll be interesting to see what else they throw in to the series so those of us readers are still on our toes.

With that said, a lot of stuff from the book doesn't make it into the show. If it did, there would just be too many characters to follow. Gendry was combined with another character from the book (Edric Storm) and Daario seems to be doing a lot that a character in the book named Strong Belwas did, so that character is gone too.

But overall the series is definitely worth it. I loved the addition of the Arya/Tywin Lannister bit, which never took place in the book.

[EZWind]

. I loved the addition of the Arya/Tywin Lannister bit, which never took place in the book.
Arya is my favorite character out of the whole bunch. Thanx David and DB or George or whoever added those scenes to the show...they were great

[youngblood61]

Arya is my favorite character out of the whole bunch. Thanx David and DB or George or whoever added those scenes to the show...they were greatI like Arya as well.

[Stavros]

Some of you will have seen the actors out of costume before, but this Telegraph gallery brings a few together in one place, though there are better pictures of Emilia Clarke (with her clothes on), and I think the punk-style hair on Nathalie Dormer is from her role in Hunger Games (but not sure).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/game-of-thrones/10744044/Game-of-Thrones-stars-out-of-character.html

[rockabilly]

Love the show , Been watching since episode one.

[dderek123]

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[Stavros]

I saw Star Wars when it was first released and have never been able to understand its appeal, it was so poorly written and constructed. Alec Guinness took a small percentage of the profits and was surprised, if delighted, to become a millionaire as a result. The only comparison to make is with Star Trek- which one is worse? if that is possible.
It doesn't get better than this:

William Shatner interprets Rocket Man (Elton John) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L77R2eJ279k)

[EZWind]

...can somebody help me out here on this one? Last week's episode finds Davos' pirate buddy in the hot tub w/ two hot babes and he's telling a joke about the pirate who likes to wear a red shirt in battle. He gets to the end and the girls blurt out the punch line over him. I listened to the dam thing four times, cranked up the volume and even stuck me ear up next to the speaker...could not for the life o me make out what they're saying. Anyone?

[EvaCassini]

"Get me my brown pants!"

[Prospero]

NO... tried it. Not my thing

[EZWind]

"Get me my brown pants!"
Doh! Thanx, Eva....of course, makes sense...I probly should have been able to come to that conclusion myself....it was late

[dderek123]

Trial by combat!

http://i.imgur.com/QaVTOAM.gif

[Stavros]

What have we learned in recent weeks?
That Daenerys has the charisma and the 'manpower' to seize control of corrupt states, but is finding it harder to govern them...
That Stannis has the charisma of a plank and not much manpower at all...
That Tyrion Lannister has so far been the only character other than Ned Stark who looks and sounds like he would make a good King of Westeros...
That we need to know just how far south Mance Rayder has got -its been a while-...

Am I right in thinking that if there is a combat Jamie will have to represent his father and Bronn Tyrion? Is that how it works?

[dderek123]

That's not actually how it worked out in the books. I've read all the spoilers :(. It's quite surprising actually and it is a pretty significant moment in the series IMHO.

I'm not sure what happens with the Queen of Thorns though. I really like her character and hopefully something really neat happens with her soon.

[Stavros]

No spoilers!! I prefer the tv/film versions of books in this genre, even if you have whetted my appetite...

[fred41]

No spoilers!! I prefer the tv/film versions of books in this genre, even if you have whetted my appetite...

So far they did a good job editing to put the books on screen...this should be good...just watch.

[dderek123]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R64JXxBVcAg

[EvaCassini]

hehehehehe ^

[Shogun69]

I too am an avid fan. I started reading the books and am up to Tyrion's trial. I read too far ahead though so I am stopping until season's end.
This is what happens ........................... lol

[youngblood61]

Looks like Littlefinger was after Sansa (not sure if spelled right) all along.

[Stavros]

Looks like Littlefinger was after Sansa (not sure if spelled right) all along.

A man who has had a taste of power is not going to risk what is left of his life for a young woman, not Baelish. I think he sees a transition of power away from the Lannisters, and he wants more than a steak and kidney pie!

[serial138]

The tv show is pretty much where the books are as far a Baelish and Sansa are concerned, so there are no spoilers here.

While Baelish may appreciate Sansa's beauty and all that, I think the only thing he is concerned about is power. He wants to be King, or at least the lead power behind the throne. He won't jeopardize his plans over anything as trivial as love, as it already earned him a bitter heart and a huge scar.

So Stavros, did you see the latest episode and how your theory of Jaime and Bronn representing in the trial by combat worked out?

[tranylover]

On Lord Balish and Sansa, As far as Peter Balish knows, Sansa is the last rightful hier to the Stark estate. He already has taken control of the air castle, He will have sewn up the entire North! The fact that Sansa is young and beautiful is icing on the cake.

[serial138]

I think he's more concerned with marrying her to someone else and ruling from King's Landing. He may have killed his wife, but his stepson is still alive, and the rightful king of the Eyre. He can manipulate a weakling like that. I think he'd rather marry Sansa off to another weakling in the North and control them from behind the scenes. It's more his style.

[dderek123]

http://i.imgur.com/EbbS1rk.gif

Littlefinger was madly in lurv with Sansa's mother. So snatching Sansa up is probably a pleasant bonus perk from his schemes. But he's a brilliant sociopath so he probably would push her off a cliff when he's done with her.

[NYBURBS]

I don't know about all of you but I am rooting for the Starks. They are the underdog thus far and have been kicked round way way too much so I think to have them at least break even would be a satisfying conclusion. Kill the Lannisters, Kill the Freys, and the Boltons. I am finding less people to root for as the show goes on but i have hope.

Same here, I love the Starks, though tbh Sansa and her mother I found irksome, but the rest I always root for.

[Stavros]

The tv show is pretty much where the books are as far a Baelish and Sansa are concerned, so there are no spoilers here.

While Baelish may appreciate Sansa's beauty and all that, I think the only thing he is concerned about is power. He wants to be King, or at least the lead power behind the throne. He won't jeopardize his plans over anything as trivial as love, as it already earned him a bitter heart and a huge scar.

So Stavros, did you see the latest episode and how your theory of Jaime and Bronn representing in the trial by combat worked out?

Bronn has dropped out and Oberyn stepped in to give Tyrion a boost- I don't see Tyrion being killed off and for all his muscle-power the Mountain is probably going to be out-guiled by Oberyn. I think Tyrion is important in the theme of kingship where the ruthless style of leadership practised by Joffrey and his grandfather is contrasted to the more 'sensitive' leadership of the late Ned Stark and Tyrion himself, who presumably must be recalled by the men who fought in the war as a courageous leader -he comes across as a wiser leader than his relatives. This also relates to Daenerys, who is finding leadership hard as she tries to be both ruthless and benevolent. But in the 'Game of Thrones' being nice to people only goes so far...and it may come down to a combat between -just realised this might be a plot spoiler even though I haven't read the books so I will stop here.

[Stavros]

On Lord Balish and Sansa, As far as Peter Balish knows, Sansa is the last rightful hier to the Stark estate. He already has taken control of the air castle, He will have sewn up the entire North! The fact that Sansa is young and beautiful is icing on the cake.

Not sure that Sansa is 'the last rightful heir' of the Starks -Jon Snow is related to Ned Stark though the full facts of his parentage have not been revealed, and Arya and Bran are still developing.

Sansa may be young and beautiful but an intriguing angle in Game of Thrones is presented by those characters with what Erving Goffman once called 'spoiled identity' but where this superficially negative condition seems to enhance certain powers -Tyrion is a dwarf, but can command men in battle and has more political nous than his relatives; Bran has become disabled, but is a 'warg' and can see things happening across time; his protector, a 'sub-normal' lump called Hodor is also a 'warg'; Shireen has 'greyscale' which seems to be a sort of (televisual) leprosy but she reads books and has a wisdom beyond her years.

[amanda_s]

Not sure that Sansa is 'the last rightful heir' of the Starks -Jon Snow is related to Ned Stark though the full facts of his parentage have not been revealed, and Arya and Bran are still developing.


To be fair tranylover did say "As far as Peter Balish knows, Sansa is the last rightful hier"

As the viewer we know that's not true but most of Westeros thinks Bran and Rickon are dead, murdered by Theon Greyjoy. Only the Boltons know that is not true, hence Roose sending Locke north to find Bran to either kill or kidnap him. Arya is also assumed to be dead and Jon Snow can't be an heir because he's a bastard and even if he wasn't he's now a member of the Night's Watch and has renounced all previous claims and titles.

Sansa actually is considered to be the last Stark heir which is why Tywin ordered Tyrion to marry her so the Lannisters could have a legitimate claim to Winterfell.

I can't see Petyr Baelish marrying Sansa and claiming Winterfell because Sansa is wanted for the murder of Joffery. It would also expose his part in Joffery's murder. I think he will stay at the Eyrie but I'm very interested to see how he explains Lysa's death.

And sorry to be pedantic but Hodor is not a warg. Wargs are humans that can control other animals, and in Bran's case, other humans.

[Stavros]

To be fair tranylover did say "As far as Peter Balish knows, Sansa is the last rightful hier"

As the viewer we know that's not true but most of Westeros thinks Bran and Rickon are dead, murdered by Theon Greyjoy. Only the Boltons know that is not true, hence Roose sending Locke north to find Bran to either kill or kidnap him. Arya is also assumed to be dead and Jon Snow can't be an heir because he's a bastard and even if he wasn't he's now a member of the Night's Watch and has renounced all previous claims and titles.

Sansa actually is considered to be the last Stark heir which is why Tywin ordered Tyrion to marry her so the Lannisters could have a legitimate claim to Winterfell.

I can't see Petyr Baelish marrying Sansa and claiming Winterfell because Sansa is wanted for the murder of Joffery. It would also expose his part in Joffery's murder. I think he will stay at the Eyrie but I'm very interested to see how he explains Lysa's death.

And sorry to be pedantic but Hodor is not a warg. Wargs are humans that can control other animals, and in Bran's case, other humans.

Your are right of course, and I am wrong. But didn't Hodor's eyes milk over in that Warg-like way? I accept I might be wrong about him too. Thanks for correcting me.

[Jericho]

But didn't Hodor's eyes milk over in that Warg-like way?

That's because he was taken over, wasn't it.


btw, any interested in Tyrion should check out, Threshold (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460686/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_32)
He's a horny little fucker in that, too.

[Stavros]

That's because he was taken over, wasn't it.


btw, any interested in Tyrion should check out, Threshold (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460686/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_32)
He's a horny little fucker in that, too.

Interesting, my dude, I hadn't thought of that.

The Telegraph has a feature on Peter Dinklage today, worth reading. I have only see The Station Agent of his earlier films, Tiptoes looks so daft I might have to see if my local, independent dvd/cd/vinyl store has a copy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/10846481/In-praise-of-X-Mens-Peter-Dinklage.html

[Johnny.Blaze]

I have been an avid fan of G.O.T for years. Even before the series on HBO. It's without question my favorite show, and favorite novels. As for this season. I'm totally loving Prince Oberyn's character. Pedro Pascal plays him perfectly. And his scene with Tyrion was priceless. As for what's in store for him. All I will say is I HOPE they go a different rout with The Viper, than what the book did. If you've read it, then you know what I'm talking about...

[dderek123]

I have been an avid fan of G.O.T for years. Even before the series on HBO. It's without question my favorite show, and favorite novels. As for this season. I'm totally loving Prince Oberyn's character. Pedro Pascal plays him perfectly. And his scene with Tyrion was priceless. As for what's in store for him. All I will say is I HOPE they go a different rout with The Viper, than what the book did. If you've read it, then you know what I'm talking about...

Yeah I hope so too. He's a really neat character.

[serial138]

Oberyn and the Mountain is an essential part of the story. What's coming has to transpire the same way as the book, or you change Tyrion and a whole slew of other characters destinies.

I definitely agree with the two of you that Pedro Pascal has done a phenomenal job of bringing Oberyn to life.

[dderek123]

http://i.imgur.com/1PG4GEC.gif

[ladd3rfr3ak]

Fuck you G.R.R Martin, Seriously Fuck you, I hope some Huge Dicked Shemale fucks you in the ass untill it bleeds and you die in agony.

[Jericho]

Wasn't expecting that!

[Johnny.Blaze]

The ending to Game Of Thrones last night had me going like....

[Johnny.Blaze]

Then after the initial shock wore off. I was like....

[youngblood61]

Wasn't expecting that!Same here. If Oberyn hadn't been so cocky and just finished the job. Great scene, I know my jaw dropped.

[Johnny.Blaze]

My only gripe about the show was that the Oberyn/Mountain showdown only lasted about 6 minutes. But aside from that. How about Sansa? Seems she going for the Hotty look now. Changed her hair color and her attitude. She looked amazingly sexy I think....

[EvaCassini]

-I wanna fuck Sansa now, because sexy.
-I wanna embrace Tyrion and take him away from the coming horror.
-I wanna help fight at the Wall.
-I wanna slap Oberyn for being overzealous.
-I wanna go all "berserker Robert Baratheon" on The Mountain with a huge warhammer and smash HIS head in.
-I wanna feel happy for Ramsey, yet I wanna be like "eww".
-I wanna know why beetles were "KUNG'D".
-I wanna beat Cersei's tits in with said warhammer after of course her watching me smash The Mountain's head in with the same hammer.
-I wanna laugh with Arya.
-I wanna bitch slap Jorah for not telling Dany much fucking sooner.
-I wanna see at least Sansa get it on with Littlefinger, or Messandei get "sullied" with Grey Worm.

[Johnny.Blaze]

-I wanna fuck Sansa now, because sexy.
-I wanna embrace Tyrion and take him away from the coming horror.
-I wanna help fight at the Wall.
-I wanna slap Oberyn for being overzealous.
-I wanna go all "berserker Robert Baratheon" on The Mountain with a huge warhammer and smash HIS head in.
-I wanna feel happy for Ramsey, yet I wanna be like "eww".
-I wanna know why beetles were "KUNG'D".
-I wanna beat Cersei's tits in with said warhammer after of course her watching me smash The Mountain's head in with the same hammer.
-I wanna laugh with Arya.
-I wanna bitch slap Jorah for not telling Dany much fucking sooner.
-I wanna see at least Sansa get it on with Littlefinger, or Messandei get "sullied" with Grey Worm.

This was a Hilarious read Eva. Best post of the day, I Love it lol. I imagine watching GOT with you would be awesome and funny as hell. And you are right on every single thing except I don't want to see Sansa get it on with littlefinger. She's too good for his little finger...

[youngblood61]

-I wanna fuck Sansa now, because sexy.
-I wanna embrace Tyrion and take him away from the coming horror.
-I wanna help fight at the Wall.
-I wanna slap Oberyn for being overzealous.
-I wanna go all "berserker Robert Baratheon" on The Mountain with a huge warhammer and smash HIS head in.
-I wanna feel happy for Ramsey, yet I wanna be like "eww".
-I wanna know why beetles were "KUNG'D".
-I wanna beat Cersei's tits in with said warhammer after of course her watching me smash The Mountain's head in with the same hammer.
-I wanna laugh with Arya.
-I wanna bitch slap Jorah for not telling Dany much fucking sooner.
-I wanna see at least Sansa get it on with Littlefinger, or Messandei get "sullied" with Grey Worm.I agree on fucking Sensa Eva!:)

[serial138]

I'm really curious what they are going to do with Sansa and Littlefinger now. They're all caught up with the books, everything from this point with those 2 is either unreleased or unwritten material.

As for Tyrion, I wouldn't worry about him Eva. He's going to have a few more tricks up his sleeve before the season's over.

[EvaCassini]

I'm really curious what they are going to do with Sansa and Littlefinger now. They're all caught up with the books, everything from this point with those 2 is either unreleased or unwritten material.

As for Tyrion, I wouldn't worry about him Eva. He's going to have a few more tricks up his sleeve before the season's over.

Oh I'm sure...It's fucking Tyrion. People would actually act out on the real death threats that G.R.R. Martin has gotten, if he and the show runners were to let Tyrion die.

[serial138]

As much as I love Tyrion, I think that's the only way they could legitimately shock me. Kill off someone like Daenarys or Tyrion that everyone considers essential to the show. It would be like killing Rick Grimes in Walking Dead.

But it would probably also kill the show after a few more episodes.

[hiten369]

poor Hound, now he won't get his money.
I fucking love Arya!!!! (The Starks send their regards!!!)

[Falling]

Fucking Game of thrones! Jorah exiled and Oberyn dead all in one episode...

[alpha2117]

Dont worry about Oberyn - the Sand Snakes are coming and they make him look like a pussy.

[dderek123]

Dont worry about Oberyn - the Sand Snakes are coming and they make him look like a pussy.

I'm so excited for that. :banana:

[ladd3rfr3ak]

GRRM is the Tyrion's cousin Orson who is killing all these characters and we the audience are watching and wondering like tyrion" why is he doing this" :P

[RallyCola]

not to threadjack but everyone in my lab keeps telling me that i should watch this show. hbo on demand does not have season 1 and 2 online now. is it lunacy just to start at season 3? i can always read episode summaries or am i really going to miss out on a lot starting late?

[Falling]

Start at the beginning the DVD sets aren't very expensive and well worth the investment.

[serial138]

Season1 and 2 DVD's are like 30 bucks now, probably cheaper on Amazon or digital downloads from iTunes or someone who may have them. You can probably find somewhere to rent them if you don't want to own them, but trust me, you'll wind up buying them anyway. You don't want to start in Season 3, you'll miss too much background and not know who half of the characters are. Not even considering you have no emotional or time investment in a character so watching him or her die 3 episodes in will be ho-hum.

[up_for_it]

Last week was nuts... just when I thought there was going to be a moment of justice and redemption, that guy had his eyes gouged out and his skull crushed. While I've been kind of turned off by the wanton brutality that the series has been generating lately, that twist makes me look forward to tonight.

[dderek123]

Tonight I hope they show a really cool battle at Castle Black. With giants, cannibals and crows.

[ILoveTGirls4Life]

I did the same as you tiff! Listening to everyone tell me how awesome it is. I watched every episode aired so far over the space of 5 days and now waiting for the next one is awful. Feels like the days are going so fecking slow.

On a plus not. There's at least 2 more seasons, but after this one's done we have to go without until April of next year.

Glad they killed of that evil creepy looking little bumhole. especially after he killed my favorite whore lol, but he should have go out in a much more painful way....OH WELL !!

[goliath_91710]

My current crush:

[hiten369]

The Season 4 finale was awesome!!!

[Odelay]

Yeah, I enjoyed this season finale. Didn't have quite the bang that some others had but was very satisfactory in where it led the various storylines. Many possibilities open up for next season. The series seems to be centered on the Starks, more than ever, even with half of them having already been killed off. I like how the surviving members each find their own way, each having grown considerably, and each behaving in ways that others around them cannot predict.

[serial138]

My current crush:

Absofuckinglutely!

Getting to see her naked a couple episodes back was like a gift from God!

[ILoveTransWomen]

While I love the show so far, I'm worried about the show catching up to and passing the timeline of the books. GRRM will hopefully get the lead out and release the last two books in a timely fashion.

[RobynBlakeTS]

http://entertainment.ie/images_content/Stannis%20inquisition.jpg

Yay Stannis to the rescue :) Stannis for the throne :)

[Falling]

Man the battle at the wall was amazing!

[emilydelano]

My only problem with the season 4 finale, where was Lady Stoneheart? Especially after Lena Headeys hint towards it on her instagram page

[Teydyn]

where was Lady Stoneheart?
Why should we care? They do things in a bit different in the show.

[serial138]

Unless Martin has written something important for Stoneheart in the upcoming novels, i can live without the murderous undead. We have the white walkers for that. If you're going to leave out Strong Belwas, you can leave out Stoneheart too.

[NoNameXIV]

Tiffany to put it simply GoT = Greatest show on earth

[fred41]

Unless Martin has written something important for Stoneheart in the upcoming novels, i can live without the murderous undead. We have the white walkers for that. If you're going to leave out Strong Belwas, you can leave out Stoneheart too.

In total agreement with this.

[ILoveTransWomen]

Unless Martin has written something important for Stoneheart in the upcoming novels, i can live without the murderous undead. We have the white walkers for that. If you're going to leave out Strong Belwas, you can leave out Stoneheart too.

I disagree. I STILL haven't forgiven Walder Frey for the Red Wedding, and would have liked to see some Freys get a well-deserved death.

[serial138]

Oh they'll get their turn I'm sure. They dropped like flies in books 4 and 5, and that's not even counting the ones Stoneheart got. The fat lord from White Harbor is especially keen on making sure a few meet a sharp sword. Waverly or Wanderly or something, I know his first and last name both begin with W.

[Tiffany Starr]

Spoilers: Does anyone know if they will be including Lady Stoneheart? I heard an awful rumor that the actress that plays catlyn said she would not be included.

[youngblood61]

Spoilers: Does anyone know if they will be including Lady Stoneheart? I heard an awful rumor that the actress that plays catlyn said she would not be included.I hear next season she comes on Tiff. Alot of people thought she should have been included in the season finale.